Wednesday October 31, 2012
9:55 |  Danielle Salisbury@DanielleMSalis  A preliminary examination is about to begin in the case of Kesean Wilson and Breanna Crawford. Wednesday October 31, 2012 9:55 DanielleMSalis |
9:56 | The two are accused of robbing the Jackson City County Credit Union in Summit Township on Oct. 10. Wednesday October 31, 2012 9:56 DanielleMSalis |
9:56 | The two are siblings. Wednesday October 31, 2012 9:56 DanielleMSalis |
9:57 | A teller has taken the stand. Wednesday October 31, 2012 9:57 DanielleMSalis |
9:58 | About 9;15 a.m. Oct. 10, she was waiting on a lady who was inquiring about opening an account. Wednesday October 31, 2012 9:58 DanielleMSalis |
9:59 | She was wearing big silver, square earrings and a Michigan sweatshirt, the clerk said, and identified Breanna Crawford. Wednesday October 31, 2012 9:59 DanielleMSalis |
10:00 | She told her she has to be eligible to open an account and I went over the eligibility requirements. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:00 DanielleMSalis |
10:00 | She did not meet most of the requirements, but she told the clerk she lived in the neighborhood, which made her eligible. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:00 DanielleMSalis |
10:00 | She did not have an ID or money or a Social Security card. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:00 DanielleMSalis |
10:01 | The clerk told Crawford she could come back with the needed identification and a man walked in the door. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:01 DanielleMSalis |
10:01 | He was wearing a tan suit, she said. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:01 DanielleMSalis |
10:02 | The clothing and voice led her to believe it was a man, the clerk said. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:02 DanielleMSalis |
10:02 | He had a mask on, she said when Assistant Prosecutor Nick Mehalco Jr. asked her if she could see his face. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:02 DanielleMSalis |
10:03 | Did he have anything in his hands? The prosecutor asked. "A gun," the clerk said. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:03 DanielleMSalis |
10:03 | How did he carry the gun? "In his hand out in the open." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:03 DanielleMSalis |
10:03 | There was another customer there at the time, she said. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:03 DanielleMSalis |
10:04 | What did he do with the pistol? He put it to the customer's head, the clerk said. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:04 DanielleMSalis |
10:04 | He told us to get down. When he walked in the door, he said don't push any panic buttons. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:04 DanielleMSalis |
10:04 | The clerk had already pushed the button, she said. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:04 DanielleMSalis |
10:04 | "I got down." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:04 DanielleMSalis |
10:04 | "I was very scared." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:04 DanielleMSalis |
10:05 | Did you follow all the commands of the masked man with the handgun? "Yes." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:05 DanielleMSalis |
10:05 | She was down, and he jumped the counter, the clerk said. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:05 DanielleMSalis |
10:06 | Mehalco is showing the witness a photograph of the inside of the credit union. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:06 DanielleMSalis |
10:07 | She is pointing to her work station. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:07 DanielleMSalis |
10:08 | Mehalco is showing her a photograph of the "membership pack" or paperwork the clerk had given Crawford. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:08 DanielleMSalis |
10:09 | After being told to get down, which you did, what did the masked man do? "He jumped over the counter." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:09 DanielleMSalis |
10:09 | He jumped over the middle work station, she said. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:09 DanielleMSalis |
10:10 | What happened after he jumped the counter? "He approached me." He had the gun pointed at her, and told her to unload her "vault." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:10 DanielleMSalis |
10:11 | She took this to mean her drawer. And he unloaded the money into a bag from the drawer at her work station, which she had opened. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:11 DanielleMSalis |
10:11 | He pointed to the bottom drawer or cabinet and told her to open that. She said there was no money there, just paperwork. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:11 DanielleMSalis |
10:12 | He left my station at that point and went down to another employee's station, the clerk said. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:12 DanielleMSalis |
10:12 | "At that point, I was pretty upset and crying rather loudly," she said. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:12 DanielleMSalis |
10:13 | At the other employee's station, she heard him say, "I'm sorry. I have to do this for my family." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:13 DanielleMSalis |
10:14 | We heard the door slam, the clerk said when asked how she knew the robber had left. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:14 DanielleMSalis |
10:14 | Her boss told her the man had gone out the back door. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:14 DanielleMSalis |
10:15 | The customer left to see where Crawford went, the clerk said. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:15 DanielleMSalis |
10:15 | Crawford left out the front door, the clerk said. The clerk saw her on the sidewalk. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:15 DanielleMSalis |
10:16 | Did Crawford indicate that she knew him in any way? Did She say anything about him or to him? "No." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:16 DanielleMSalis |
10:16 | The credit union doors were then locked. The business was closed, she said. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:16 DanielleMSalis |
10:18 | Mehalco is asking her about the amount of money taken from the clerk's station. How much? $8,756. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:18 DanielleMSalis |
10:19 | Defense lawyer Phillip Berkemeier now is asking the clerk questions. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:19 DanielleMSalis |
10:20 | The clerk's boss has a live-feed camera in her office. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:20 DanielleMSalis |
10:20 | After the gunman entered the lobby, where did he go initially? To the customer. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:20 DanielleMSalis |
10:21 | Did he say anything to the customer? "He did. I don't know what he said." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:21 DanielleMSalis |
10:21 | He held the gun to his head? "Yes." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:21 DanielleMSalis |
10:21 | "He told us to get down," the clerk said. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:21 DanielleMSalis |
10:22 | You were ducked behind the counter? "Correct." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:22 DanielleMSalis |
10:22 | "He jumped over the counter. I could see him from where I was down." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:22 DanielleMSalis |
10:23 | Where you crying at this time? "Yes." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:23 DanielleMSalis |
10:24 | She heard him apologize when he went to the other work station. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:24 DanielleMSalis |
10:25 | Did you ever see him look at the young lady in front of your window? No. And you never heard him say anything to her? No. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:25 DanielleMSalis |
10:25 | He headed out the back of the building, the clerk said. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:25 DanielleMSalis |
10:25 | The area is not generally open to the public, she said. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:25 DanielleMSalis |
10:25 | She heard the door shut. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:25 DanielleMSalis |
10:25 | She did not personally see him leave the building. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:25 DanielleMSalis |
10:26 | I heard the door shut, that is when I started to pop up. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:26 DanielleMSalis |
10:26 | Where you emotionally upset? "Yes." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:26 DanielleMSalis |
10:27 | Her boss said, "I am sorry guys." She had seen the robbery unfold on the monitor. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:27 DanielleMSalis |
10:27 | Did the young lady say anything to anyone else before she left? No. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:27 DanielleMSalis |
10:28 | The clerk saw her walking on the sidewalk, heading north on Francis Street. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:28 DanielleMSalis |
10:28 | When did you do the tally of the money missing from your drawer? As soon as the building was secure, the clerk said. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:28 DanielleMSalis |
10:29 | The other defense lawyer, Jerry Engle, now is asking questions. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:29 DanielleMSalis |
10:30 | When Ms. Crawford comes in, is the other client already there? "Yes." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:30 DanielleMSalis |
10:31 | They were the first clients of the day? The clerk is fairly certain they were. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:31 DanielleMSalis |
10:31 |
Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:31 Heather |
10:31 | The clerk never saw Crawford with a weapon. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:31 DanielleMSalis |
10:31 | "Ms. Crawford is not wearing a mask of any sort?" No. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:31 DanielleMSalis |
10:32 | Before she fills out the paperwork, the man in the mask comes in the door? Yes. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:32 DanielleMSalis |
10:32 | "I seen him coming down the sidewalk. So when he came in the door, I was ready to push the panic button." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:32 DanielleMSalis |
10:33 | "I had my finger ready." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:33 DanielleMSalis |
10:33 | When he came in the door, he had a mask on? "Yes." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:33 DanielleMSalis |
10:33 | The back door faces west. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:33 DanielleMSalis |
10:34 | Did you see him after he left? "I didn't see him. I didn't look." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:34 DanielleMSalis |
10:34 | Crawford was walking on the sidewalk. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:34 DanielleMSalis |
10:35 | Did you see her get any money? No. Did she say anything about wanting money or indicating she was part of the robbery? No. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:35 DanielleMSalis |
10:35 | Did Crawford have on a hat? "No hat. Nothing." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:35 DanielleMSalis |
10:35 | Did you know either of these people before? "No." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:35 DanielleMSalis |
10:36 | She was not in a position to see whether Crawford got down or not. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:36 DanielleMSalis |
10:37 | Engle is representing Crawford. Berkemeier is representing Wilson. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:37 DanielleMSalis |
10:38 | Another bank employee has taken the stand. She is a loan officer and a teller. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:38 DanielleMSalis |
10:39 | At about 9:15 a.m. Oct. 10, she was waiting on a familiar customer. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:39 DanielleMSalis |
10:40 | Mehalco is asking questions. Were there any other customers there? Yes. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:40 DanielleMSalis |
10:40 |
Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:40 Guest |
10:41 | This clerk also has identified Crawford as the woman who was there at the time of the robbery. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:41 DanielleMSalis |
10:41 | "A gentleman bolted through the door," the teller said. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:41 DanielleMSalis |
10:41 | He had on a tan, polyester-type suit on, she said. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:41 DanielleMSalis |
10:42 | Could you see his face? "No he had a black ski mask on." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:42 DanielleMSalis |
10:42 | Did he have something in his hand? "Yes." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:42 DanielleMSalis |
10:42 | "To me, it looked like a revolver." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:42 DanielleMSalis |
10:42 | So a handgun, pistol-type of a gun? "Yes." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:42 DanielleMSalis |
10:43 | "It reminded me of something from a western (movie)." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:43 DanielleMSalis |
10:43 | What did he do with the weapon? "He pointed it at my customer's head." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:43 DanielleMSalis |
10:43 | What did he tell the customer? To get down. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:43 DanielleMSalis |
10:44 | Can you tell us what your feelings or reaction was? "I feared for my life and (the customer's) life." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:44 DanielleMSalis |
10:44 | What type of transaction were you in the process of doing? The customer was making a $100 withdrawal. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:44 DanielleMSalis |
10:45 | The $100 was on the counter, ready for the customer to pick up. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:45 DanielleMSalis |
10:46 | At the time the gun was put to the customer's head, where there any instructions made? Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:46 DanielleMSalis |
10:46 | "He just instructed to get down and not to push the button." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:46 DanielleMSalis |
10:46 | Are you to interfere, according to your training, at all in a robbery? No. You are to follow commands? Yes. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:46 DanielleMSalis |
10:46 | "I heard him jump the counter." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:46 DanielleMSalis |
10:47 | Did you see him jump the counter? "No, I did not." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:47 DanielleMSalis |
10:48 | She heard him tell the other teller to open the safe. The other teller told him it was not a safe. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:48 DanielleMSalis |
10:49 | "I was on the floor, so he was over the top of me." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:49 DanielleMSalis |
10:49 | "I had already placed my money on top of the counter." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:49 DanielleMSalis |
10:49 | Did you lift the drawer or take the cash out? "I just took the cash out." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:49 DanielleMSalis |
10:49 | She placed all her money on top of the customer's $100. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:49 DanielleMSalis |
10:50 | He also starting crying and apologizing, the teller said. He said he was doing it for his family, she said. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:50 DanielleMSalis |
10:51 | Did you hear Crawford say anything to anyone during the robbery? No. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:51 DanielleMSalis |
10:51 | She felt OK to get up from the floor when she heard a coworker on the phone with 911. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:51 DanielleMSalis |
10:52 | The male customer went out the front door and ran out our drive-through area. He later returned. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:52 DanielleMSalis |
10:52 | DId you see Crawford leave? "No, I did not." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:52 DanielleMSalis |
10:53 | She never saw Crawford come back or give a statement to police. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:53 DanielleMSalis |
10:53 | You counted out your drawer to see how much had been taken? Yes. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:53 DanielleMSalis |
10:55 | Berkemeier, defense lawyer for Wilson, is now asking questions. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:55 DanielleMSalis |
10:56 | There were four employees at the credit union that day. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:56 DanielleMSalis |
10:57 | He bolted through the door? "Yes." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:57 DanielleMSalis |
10:58 | "The door swung open very quickly, and 'boom,' he was right on the customer. Immediate." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:58 DanielleMSalis |
10:58 | He said get down, and everyone got down, including the customer, she said. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:58 DanielleMSalis |
10:59 | When he said get down, did you hear anything in his voice that suggested he was crying? "No." Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:59 DanielleMSalis |
10:59 | She took the money from her drawer before she got down. Wednesday October 31, 2012 10:59 DanielleMSalis |
11:00 | She heard him go over the counter and go to the other teller's window. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:00 DanielleMSalis |
11:01 | Did he say anything of a "threatening nature," such as "I am going to kill you"? No. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:01 DanielleMSalis |
11:01 | She opened a "drop box" to show him it was not a safe. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:01 DanielleMSalis |
11:02 | He had a red bag. "It looked like a plastic shopping bag." Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:02 DanielleMSalis |
11:02 | She hear him place the money in the bag. "That is when he started crying." Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:02 DanielleMSalis |
11:02 | "It was a tearful voice, emotionally." What did he say? "That he was sorry, and he was doing this for his family." Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:02 DanielleMSalis |
11:04 | Neither of the defendants will testify. This is only a probable cause hearing. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:04 DanielleMSalis |
11:05 | I don't think I have ever seen a defendant testify at a preliminary examination. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:05 DanielleMSalis |
11:05 | Engle now is asking the teller questions. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:05 DanielleMSalis |
11:05 | Did Crawford ever have a weapon? No. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:05 DanielleMSalis |
11:06 | Mehalco now is asking the teller questions. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:06 DanielleMSalis |
11:06 | Did you perceive a threat? Yes. "Just seeing the gun." Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:06 DanielleMSalis |
11:07 | She doesn't know what door the gunman used to leave. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:07 DanielleMSalis |
11:08 | Mehalco has now called to the stand the male customer who was in the credit union at the time of the robbery. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:08 DanielleMSalis |
11:09 | You have an account at Jackson City County Credit Union? "Yes." Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:09 DanielleMSalis |
11:09 | What time did you get there? "Right around 9:10 in the morning." Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:09 DanielleMSalis |
11:10 | Mehalco is asking the questions. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:10 DanielleMSalis |
11:10 | He had been in the credit union less than five minutes before Crawford arrived. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:10 DanielleMSalis |
11:11 | Along with other business, he was there to make a $100 withdrawal. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:11 DanielleMSalis |
11:12 |
Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:12 Guest |
11:12 | He saw a woman come into the credit union and go to another teller's window. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:12 DanielleMSalis |
11:13 | He identified Crawford as the person who came into the credit union. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:13 DanielleMSalis |
11:13 | Were you able to determine what she was doing there? No. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:13 DanielleMSalis |
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Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:13 Brian Wheeler |
11:14 | The $100 was on the counter. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:14 DanielleMSalis |
11:14 | "An individual came in and started roughing me up from the back, and I felt something hard up against my head." Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:14 DanielleMSalis |
11:14 | He had been signing his name. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:14 DanielleMSalis |
11:15 | "I turned, and the gun was here," he said, pointing to his forehead. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:15 DanielleMSalis |
11:15 | "He said, "Don't be a hero. Get on the floor.'" Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:15 DanielleMSalis |
11:15 | "He said, 'Don't be a hero. Get on the floor.'" Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:15 DanielleMSalis |
11:15 | He couldn't see the man's face because he was wearing a mask. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:15 DanielleMSalis |
11:16 | Was the voice masculine or feminine? More masculine. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:16 DanielleMSalis |
11:16 | Did you follow the instruction and get down? "The second time, I did." Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:16 DanielleMSalis |
11:16 | "I went down on all fours and then on my belly." Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:16 DanielleMSalis |
11:16 | Did you ever see the gun? Yes. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:16 DanielleMSalis |
11:16 | Are you familiar with firearms? No. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:16 DanielleMSalis |
11:17 | Mehalco is asking him questions about the gun, but he cannot provide much description of it. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:17 DanielleMSalis |
11:18 | "He was yelling, 'don't hit the alarms.' And the next thing I know, he was over the counter." Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:18 DanielleMSalis |
11:18 | "He just said not to hit any buttons, and he wanted the money." Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:18 DanielleMSalis |
11:18 | The gunman was crying. He said he was sorry and he was doing it for his family, the customer said. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:18 DanielleMSalis |
11:19 | "I got up and went out the front door and down the drive-through, and did not see the suspect." Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:19 DanielleMSalis |
11:20 | "When I got back, she was walking nonchalantly on Francis Street." Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:20 DanielleMSalis |
11:20 | He did not talk to her. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:20 DanielleMSalis |
11:20 | Did you ever get your $100? Yes. "After the whole incident was over." Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:20 DanielleMSalis |
11:21 | What happened to the $100? "It disappeared." Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:21 DanielleMSalis |
11:21 | His money was gone after the robber left. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:21 DanielleMSalis |
11:22 | Berkemeier now is asking questions. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:22 DanielleMSalis |
11:22 | The customer is 60. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:22 DanielleMSalis |
11:22 | You know the staff and they know you? Yes. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:22 DanielleMSalis |
11:23 | What denomination were the bills? "I believe it was all 20s." Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:23 DanielleMSalis |
11:23 | As this was happening, you were signing your name? Yes. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:23 DanielleMSalis |
11:23 | Did you see the person come in? No, because he was focused on the transaction. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:23 DanielleMSalis |
11:24 | Did you hear somebody say, "No body is going to get hurt"? No. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:24 DanielleMSalis |
11:25 | He at first felt it at the back of his ear, he indicated. He then felt it on his forehead. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:25 DanielleMSalis |
11:25 | What was the first thing you heard him say? "Don't be a hero. Get on the floor." Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:25 DanielleMSalis |
11:25 | He heard it say it again? "Correct." And at that time you did get on the floor? "Yes." Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:25 DanielleMSalis |
11:26 | That all transpired over just a few seconds? "Probably less than 10 seconds." Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:26 DanielleMSalis |
11:26 | When you got on the floor, you initially got on your hands and knees? Yes. And then you got on your stomach? Yes. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:26 DanielleMSalis |
11:27 | Where was Ms. Crawford? She was on the floor. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:27 DanielleMSalis |
11:28 | How many times did he say, "everyone get down"? "I couldn't say." More than once. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:28 DanielleMSalis |
11:29 | You heard him at some point apologize? Yes. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:29 DanielleMSalis |
11:29 | "He said, 'I'm sorry. I am doing this for my family. I'm sorry.'" Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:29 DanielleMSalis |
11:29 | Do you hear him say "No one is going to get hurt" or something to that effect? No. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:29 DanielleMSalis |
11:30 | He got to his feet when he heard someone say he is gone. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:30 DanielleMSalis |
11:31 | He then went outside and looked down a nearby street. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:31 DanielleMSalis |
11:31 | He got back, and Crawford was already up the street, moving "nonchalantly." Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:31 DanielleMSalis |
11:31 | The credit union gave him $100 from the "drive-up." Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:31 DanielleMSalis |
11:32 | The employee working "drive-up" gave him five 20s. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:32 DanielleMSalis |
11:32 | Were they different from the five 20s that were earlier laid on the counter? There was nothing to distinguish them. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:32 DanielleMSalis |
11:33 | Jerry Engle now is asking questions. He is representing Crawford. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:33 DanielleMSalis |
11:33 | Did Crawford get to the ground about the same time as you did? No. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:33 DanielleMSalis |
11:33 | When he jumps the counter, is Crawford on the ground? Yes. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:33 DanielleMSalis |
11:34 | Did you ever see a weapon in her possession? No. Did you ever see money in her posession? No. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:34 DanielleMSalis |
11:35 | How long did this whole thing last, from the time you realized someone was behind you to the time you actually run out the door? Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:35 DanielleMSalis |
11:35 | "Less than a minute." Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:35 DanielleMSalis |
11:36 | Mehalco asked, "Did you feel threatened?" Yes. Anything in particular made you feel threatened? "Just the gun in your face." Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:36 DanielleMSalis |
11:37 | Mehalco is now calling Jackson County Sheriff's Sgt. Bryan Huttenlocker. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:37 DanielleMSalis |
11:38 | He was working on Oct. 10. He was driving a fully marked police vehicle, patrolling the roads. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:38 DanielleMSalis |
11:39 | He was dispatched to an armed robbery at the credit union. He was about two miles away from the credit union. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:39 DanielleMSalis |
11:39 | Did you come across any vehicles you thought had something to do with the robbery? Yes. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:39 DanielleMSalis |
11:39 | Mehalco is asking these questions. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:39 DanielleMSalis |
11:40 | He was trying to read the license plate because he thought it could be involved. It was a silver, four-door vehicle. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:40 DanielleMSalis |
11:41 | The driver of the vehicle ran the stop sign at Palmer and Jackson. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:41 DanielleMSalis |
11:41 | He then activated his emergency lights and siren. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:41 DanielleMSalis |
11:41 | The vehicle was passing another vehicle at about the same time. Huttenlocker also passed the same other vehicle. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:41 DanielleMSalis |
11:42 | Did the vehicle stop? No. "It ran a stop sign at Prospect and Jackson." Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:42 DanielleMSalis |
11:46 | They are taking a 20-minute recess. The hearing will resume at about 12:05 p.m. Wednesday October 31, 2012 11:46 DanielleMSalis |
12:24 | The hearing has resumed. Huttenlocker's testimony continues. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:24 DanielleMSalis |
12:24 | He lost the vehicle. About two minutes later, he heard it had hit a house. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:24 DanielleMSalis |
12:26 | The speed limit for the length of the trip was 25 mph. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:26 DanielleMSalis |
12:26 | Did you have contact with the occupants of the vehicle? Yes. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:26 DanielleMSalis |
12:27 | Huttenlocker was there when Wilson was removed from a Dumpster at a convenience store on Greenwood Avenue. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:27 DanielleMSalis |
12:28 | This is near where the vehicle crashed into the house at Jackson and Biddle streets. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:28 DanielleMSalis |
12:28 | Did you play any role in the suspect's apprehension? "I believe we used my hand cuffs." Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:28 DanielleMSalis |
12:29 | A money trail led up to the Dumpster. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:29 DanielleMSalis |
12:32 | Berkemeier now is asking questions. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:32 DanielleMSalis |
12:32 | Did you observe who was driving the vehicle? No. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:32 DanielleMSalis |
12:33 | You were trying to get close enough to get a plate number? That is correct. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:33 DanielleMSalis |
12:33 | At some point in the pursuit you lost track of the vehicle you had been following? Yes. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:33 DanielleMSalis |
12:34 | Berkemeier is asking specific questions about Huttenlocker's route that morning. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:34 DanielleMSalis |
12:36 | Huttenlocker initially took a "spot on the perimeter" of the crash site. He was relieved of the post when a dog handler arrived. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:36 DanielleMSalis |
12:36 | Engle how is asking questions. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:36 DanielleMSalis |
12:37 | Could you tell how many people were in the vehicle you were chasing? "I couldn't." Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:37 DanielleMSalis |
12:37 | You had no contact with Ms. Crawford? No. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:37 DanielleMSalis |
12:37 | Huttenlocker's patrol vehicle recorded the pursuit. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:37 DanielleMSalis |
12:38 | Mehalco now is calling sheriff's Detective Sgt. Timothy Schlundt. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:38 DanielleMSalis |
12:39 | The detective was working on Oct. 10 and involved in the investigation of the armed robbery. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:39 DanielleMSalis |
12:40 | He went to the scene of a crash at Biddle and S. Jackson streets. He was told the suspect vehicle was involved in the collision. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:40 DanielleMSalis |
12:41 | A silver Chrysler crashed into a green apartment-type building, he said, looking at photographs. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:41 DanielleMSalis |
12:41 | There was crash on the grass and inside the vehicle. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:41 DanielleMSalis |
12:42 | What did you do after taking those photographs? A 911 dispatcher informed us a person was in route to Allegiance Health. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:42 DanielleMSalis |
12:42 | The person wanted to talk to police, Schlundt said. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:42 DanielleMSalis |
12:42 | DId you have an opportunity to talk to Ms. Crawford? Yes. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:42 DanielleMSalis |
12:42 | Where did you have contact with Ms. Crawford? In the emergency department at Allegiance Health. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:42 DanielleMSalis |
12:43 | Did you read her her rights? No. She was not in custody. It was a "fact-finding" mission. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:43 DanielleMSalis |
12:43 | The conversation was recorded. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:43 DanielleMSalis |
12:43 | Mehalco is admitting the recording as evidence. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:43 DanielleMSalis |
12:44 | It looks as though Mehalco is going to play the recording. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:44 DanielleMSalis |
12:47 | The tape is being played. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:47 DanielleMSalis |
12:48 | Detective Sgt. Chris Boulter also talked to Crawford. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:48 DanielleMSalis |
12:50 | Schlundt: "You asked to talk to us. What's going on?" Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:50 DanielleMSalis |
12:52 | Crawford said her brother was suppose to take her somewhere. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:52 DanielleMSalis |
12:52 | She said Wilson, her brother, stopped near the credit union. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:52 DanielleMSalis |
12:52 | He said he got the money and he took off, she said. She said he left her in the car. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:52 DanielleMSalis |
12:53 | In the first version, she did not indicate she went into the bank, Schlundt said. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:53 DanielleMSalis |
12:54 | After the first version, Schlundt asked her if she wanted to tell him what "really" happened. Wednesday October 31, 2012 12:54 DanielleMSalis |
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Wednesday October 31, 2012 1:07 Brian Wheeler |
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Wednesday October 31, 2012 1:11 Brian Wheeler |
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