MLB FanHouse Deadline Day Live Blog

(07/31/2008)

1:01

Eamonn:

And ... INSANITY!

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:01 Eamonn

1:01

Eamonn:

Here we are, and welcome to Deadline Day 2008. Oh man it's going to be SO EXTREME!

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:01 Eamonn

1:01

[Comment From MrCMrC: ]

I was told there would be extreme insanity.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:01 MrC

1:02

[Comment From DaynaDayna: ]

Nothing less than EXXXXXTREME insanity for me please.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:02 Dayna

1:02

Eamonn:

And extreme insanity you shall have. We'll be getting more FanHouse peeps in here in a moment, but for now, let's start with Manny Ramirez. Peter Gammons

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:02 Eamonn

1:02

Eamonn:

Ahem ... Peter Gammons is reporting that the Manny deal is all but dead. This is sad for many reasons.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:02 Eamonn

1:03

[Comment From Vegas WatchVegas Watch: ]

Gammons is reporting that the Manny trade is "close to dead".

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:03 Vegas Watch

1:03

[Comment From johnjohn: ]

manny needs to go!...bad for the team!

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:03 john

1:04

Eamonn:

OK, so Manny's been acting up lately, but is he really that bad? This happens every year -- Manny almost gets traded, says some things he probably shouldn't say, the Red Sox brass gets mad at him, and then bam: two months later he's hitting home runs and all is forgotten.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:04 Eamonn

1:05

[Comment From Pat LackeyPat Lackey: ]

The Post Gazette says it's getting closer, E.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:05 Pat Lackey

1:05

Eamonn:

Who to believe?!

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:05 Eamonn

1:05

Pat Lackey:

That is the question.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:05 Pat Lackey

1:05

[Comment From WadeWade: ]

Did anyone see Baseball Tonight last night with Steve Phillips and Peter Gammons discussing Manny? Peter was about to lose his mind. It looked like he wanted to say- "How'd the Mets turn out listening to you?"

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:05 Wade

1:06

Eamonn:

That's a question everyone wants to know the answer to, Wade. By the way, are you Ed Wade? Because we have similar questions for you, sir.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:06 Eamonn

1:06

[Comment From Moonshine MikeMoonshine Mike: ]

Hard to trust Lackey - he's been slugging IC Light all morning.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:06 Moonshine Mike

1:06

[Comment From BRIANBRIAN: ]

MANNY JUST APPROVED THE TRADE TO FL

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:06 BRIAN

1:06

Eamonn:

BRIAN ARE YOU SURE

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:06 Eamonn

1:06

[Comment From BRIANBRIAN: ]

YUP

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:06 BRIAN

1:06

Eamonn:

OK NO CAPS ANYMORE THOUGH

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:06 Eamonn

1:07

Pat Lackey:

Slugging IC Light? I wish.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:07 Pat Lackey

1:07

Eamonn:

OK, so Manny's approved the trade, but as Manny can't trade himself, that doesn't do much for us.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:07 Eamonn

1:07

Pat Lackey:

Manny could be traded to the Marlins without the Pirates being involved.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:07 Pat Lackey

1:07

Eamonn:

If Manny could trade himself he would have gone to the Rays for a box of animal crackers weeks ago.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:07 Eamonn

1:07

Pat Lackey:

But I have to think they want Bay in return to fill his spot and won't do the deal otherwise.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:07 Pat Lackey

1:08

Pat Lackey:

And for anyone that's curious, the Pittsburgh PG is also reporting that the one and only Ronny "Ballgame" Paulino (Jim Tracy's favorite player of all-time) might be involved in the trade now.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:08 Pat Lackey

1:09

[Comment From Moonshine MikeMoonshine Mike: ]

is this the future of the Pirates? Another AAA Team that sells itself to Yanks and Sox each July? Maybe I should be slugging IC.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:09 Moonshine Mike

1:09

[Comment From WadeWade: ]

the chances of this going through have to be less than 50/50 right? A deal this overreported and it still hasn't happened doesn't seem likely.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:09 Wade

1:09

Pat Lackey:

Mike, you're seeing the ceiling for this group of players in Pittsburgh right now. The minors are barren. The new front office has to clean up DL's mess before they can do anything else.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:09 Pat Lackey

1:10

[Comment From Andrew JohnsonAndrew Johnson: ]

Paulino would presumably go to Florida, which has a lousy group of catchers

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:10 Andrew Johnson

1:10

[Comment From hermidahermida: ]

who did the marlins trade for manny?

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:10 hermida

1:10

Pat Lackey:

Like he would help.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:10 Pat Lackey

1:10

Eamonn:

You.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:10 Eamonn

1:11

Eamonn:

Until Manny gets finished up, what do we think about the Griffey deal? The PsTBNL are officially Danny Richar and Nick Masset. EXTREME.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:11 Eamonn

1:12

Pat Lackey:

Ken Williams is crazy. That's what I think. Griffey's not worth a bucket of snot right now.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:12 Pat Lackey

1:13

[Comment From WadeWade: ]

I was going to mention Kenny Williams being crazy. Fornelli seemed to think he wouldn't deal Swisher this quick. But anything the White Sox do would never surprise me.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:13 Wade

1:13

[Comment From johnny djohnny d: ]

how does anyone in their right mind trade for griffey at this stage in his career

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:13 johnny d

1:14

Eamonn:

Kenny Williams is ca-razy. And he loves veterans. That's the best I can do, johnny d.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:14 Eamonn

1:14

[Comment From Jay MariottiJay Mariotti: ]

Can't wait to write an article tomorrow hating on the White Sox again

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:14 Jay Mariotti

1:14

Eamonn:

And I can't wait to read it, Jay. I'm sure it will be full of genorosity and kindness of spirit.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:14 Eamonn

1:15

[Comment From GuestGuest: ]

lackey how can you say this is the ceiling for the pirates current group when their pitching had been much better as recently as last year when gorzelanny was an all-star?

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:15 Guest

1:15

Eamonn:

I'll let you handle that one, Pat.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:15 Eamonn

1:15

Pat Lackey:

Their offense isn't this good. Their pitching isn't this bad. Everyone's contract is up in 2009. That's a ceiling.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:15 Pat Lackey

1:15

Andrew Johnson:

I think Williams is a mad genius. Two parts Branch Rickey, one part Steve Phillips.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:15 Andrew Johnson

1:16

Andrew Johnson:

Yes, cite All-Star appearances

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:16 Andrew Johnson

1:16

Pat Lackey:

If we were doing that, Gorzo would be out since he's never, you know, been an all-star.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:16 Pat Lackey

1:17

[Comment From WadeWade: ]

one part Steve Phillips is enough to ruin any cocktail, no?

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:17 Wade

1:17

Eamonn:

It's a little like dumping Mad Dog in your Guinness.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:17 Eamonn

1:17

Pat Lackey:

Wait, that's not how you make a black and tan?

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:17 Pat Lackey

1:17

Andrew Johnson:

Hate on Williams all you want, I think he's made some excellent deals. Danks for McCarthy was great. So was the Quentin deal.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:17 Andrew Johnson

1:18

Eamonn:

Yeah, I really do think Mad Genius is a great term for Kenneth. And intentions don't matter; results do.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:18 Eamonn

1:18

Eamonn:

That said, that farm system is troubled. After the current crop of players ages -- give it two years? -- they're in for a long rebuild.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:18 Eamonn

1:19

[Comment From Jim BowdenJim Bowden: ]

Can the nationals trade their GM for cash and unnamed prospects?

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:19 Jim Bowden

1:19

Pat Lackey:

Jim Bowden would totally trade himself for a toolsy outfielder

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:19 Pat Lackey

1:20

[Comment From Moonshine MikeMoonshine Mike: ]

The Nationals - "Learning from Pittsburgh how to have a great stadium and a crappy team" Me, bitter? no. no, not me.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:20 Moonshine Mike

1:20

[Comment From GuestGuest: ]

gorzel was 14-10 last year and the fans voted him into the all-star game. it's not like he took the 1 spot that had to be given to the team. maximum pitching + maximum hitting = ceiling.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:20 Guest

1:20

Andrew Johnson:

I'd rank Williams in the top third of GMs, I'll put it that way. The farm system isn't pretty.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:20 Andrew Johnson

1:20

Eamonn:

Oh, Guest. Sweet, sweet Guest.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:20 Eamonn

1:20

[Comment From RonRon: ]

Update on the 3-way from the PPG: "The Pirates like the prospects, I am told, and no longer are the holdup. Florida wants more money to cover Ramirez's remaining salary plus.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:20 Ron

1:21

Eamonn:

Florida, always wanting more money. Jeffrey Loria sleeps on his revenue share.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:21 Eamonn

1:22

Pat Lackey:

New rule. I don't answer your questions about the Pirates if you don't know who made the All-Star team and who didn't. It may seem arbitrary, but I think it's fair.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:22 Pat Lackey

1:22

Andrew Johnson:

They might seem like small parts, but the prospects are really going to decide who wins the Sox-Pirates-Marlins deal if something goes down.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:22 Andrew Johnson

1:22

Pat Lackey:

http://community.post-gazette.com/blogs/pbc/archive/2008/07/31/pirates-still-talking-bay-deal.aspx

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:22 Pat Lackey

1:23

Pat Lackey:

That's the link to the constantly updated blog at the Post-Gazette about this three-way deal, if anyone needs more info.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:23 Pat Lackey

1:24

[Comment From Adam JAdam J: ]

I thought Arthur Rhodes retired in like 2002.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:24 Adam J

1:24

Eamonn:

Who knew?

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:24 Eamonn

1:25

Pat Lackey:

Can someone please talk about how insane Ed Wade is?

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:25 Pat Lackey

1:25

Andrew Johnson:

Worse GM: Ed Wade or Brian Sabean?

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:25 Andrew Johnson

1:26

Pat Lackey:

I would've said Sabean until Wade traded for Hawkins and Wolf. Who does that? I mean, really? Who does that?

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:26 Pat Lackey

1:26

Eamonn:

Yeah, when I promised insanity, I was hoping we could segue nicely into Ed Wade's lifestyle. I picture Ed Wade like Howard Hughes now, without the intelligence or savvy. Just a shell of a man hedged away in a dark corner of the Astros front office, screaming about "contending now" and "no white flags."

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:26 Eamonn

1:26

[Comment From Shawn ChaconShawn Chacon: ]

Astro fans should give me a medal

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:26 Shawn Chacon

1:26

Pat Lackey:

REBUILDING IS FOR DORKS AND LOSERS

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:26 Pat Lackey

1:26

[Comment From Shawn ChaconShawn Chacon: ]

can you really blame me?

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:26 Shawn Chacon

1:26

Eamonn:

Shawn Chacon is vindicated.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:26 Eamonn

1:26

Pat Lackey:

"You want to trade for who? CHOKE-SLAM!"

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:26 Pat Lackey

1:27

Andrew Johnson:

I'll give Ed Wade this ... Shawn Chacon is a pretty terrible pitcher.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:27 Andrew Johnson

1:27

Eamonn:

I made a joke about HAL 9000 earlier in the day, so at the risk of going to the same well too many times, I submit that Ed Wade genuinely needs a malicious robotic overlord controlling his every action.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:27 Eamonn

1:28

[Comment From Shawn ChaconShawn Chacon: ]

I think Steve Phillips is next on my chokeslam a terrible GM tour

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:28 Shawn Chacon

1:28

[Comment From Matt MillerMatt Miller: ]

Shawn Chacon is the brother of the ndertaker

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:28 Matt Miller

1:28

Pat Lackey:

Why did you spare Dave Littlefield of your wrath when you were in Pittsburgh, Shawn?

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:28 Pat Lackey

1:28

Eamonn:

Oh, and speaking of common jokes, Shawn Chacon as pro-wrestler jokes will never get old for me.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:28 Eamonn

1:28

[Comment From redsoxfanatticredsoxfanattic: ]

manny??

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:28 redsoxfanattic

1:29

Eamonn:

fanattic? Are you like a fan and an attic? An attic where you express your fandom?

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:29 Eamonn

1:29

Eamonn:

Just kidding, friend. I don't think anyone knows anything more about Manny. Yet.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:29 Eamonn

1:29

Andrew Johnson:

Another new rule: if Manny gets traded we will let you know.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:29 Andrew Johnson

1:30

Pat Lackey:

Current word on Manny is that the Marlins want more money. Also, the sun will rise tomorrow. Ken Rosenthal reports that the East is the most likely location.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:30 Pat Lackey

1:30

Eamonn:

Yeah. You don't need to keep asking us DID MANNY GET TRADED SCREW MANNY ISJ:SLKGJS. We'll get to it.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:30 Eamonn

1:31

[Comment From Adam JAdam J: ]

Manny just traded himself on Madden 06 for Trent Green and a first round pick.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:31 Adam J

1:31

Andrew Johnson:

More surreal sight: Manny in a Marlins uniform or Kyle Farnsworth crying?

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:31 Andrew Johnson

1:32

Eamonn:

Hmm. I'd go with Farnsworth.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:32 Eamonn

1:32

Pat Lackey:

Kyle Farnswoth does not cry. Insert Chuck Norris joke here.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:32 Pat Lackey

1:34

[Comment From Matt MillerMatt Miller: ]

Word is Manny was traded for Albert Belle

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:34 Matt Miller

1:34

Eamonn:

No, Matt, that was Griffey. Didn't you hear? The White Sox are totally going to rule in 2000.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:34 Eamonn

1:35

Andrew Johnson:

Rumor dump: The Yankees might be interested in Paul Byrd. The Marlins are going after Gerald Laird. The Yankees and Red Sox are battling for Scott Eyre and everyone wants Will Ohman.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:35 Andrew Johnson

1:36

Eamonn:

The Cubs could use Will Ohman. /homerism

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:36 Eamonn

1:36

[Comment From Will OhmanWill Ohman: ]

If the moon were made of barbequed spare-ribs would you eat it?

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:36 Will Ohman

1:36

[Comment From pr0FF3ss0r_F4rnsw0rthpr0FF3ss0r_F4rnsw0rth: ]

the only time i ever cryed was when i was watchin that transedformers move and optimus prime got killt like right away

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:36 pr0FF3ss0r_F4rnsw0rth

1:37

[Comment From pr0FF3ss0r_F4rnsw0rthpr0FF3ss0r_F4rnsw0rth: ]

i named my biceps optimus and prime in his honner

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:37 pr0FF3ss0r_F4rnsw0rth

1:38

[Comment From Jay MariottieJay Mariottie: ]

Get back to bashing the White Sox, i need new material if I'm going to beat Woody Paige in the Final Showdown

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:38 Jay Mariottie

1:38

Eamonn:

We should all try to write Jay's lede for tomorrow.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:38 Eamonn

1:39

Andrew Johnson:

I'm incapable of writing that bad.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:39 Andrew Johnson

1:40

Andrew Johnson:

badly*

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:40 Andrew Johnson

1:40

Pat Lackey:

I don't want to go to that very dark place in my head.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:40 Pat Lackey

1:40

Eamonn:

Mariotti: As if the Blizzard of Oz and his one-man, foul-mouthed freak show weren't enough. As if the swears and insults and anger weren't enough. As if the team's first place finish so far wasn't enough. As if Kenny Williams' inflated ego wasn't already enough.

Yesterday, the Sox completed the final descent into insanity: They traded for a washed-up, me-first slugger with broken knees and busted soul. How soon until Griffey does the choke sign -- his new favorite gesture -- and kills the life from this White Sox team?

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:40 Eamonn

1:41

Eamonn:

WHAT HAPPENED

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:41 Eamonn

1:41

Eamonn:

I blacked out.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:41 Eamonn

1:41

Eamonn:

There was this cold rush over me. I felt my soul shiver.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:41 Eamonn

1:41

[Comment From Adam JAdam J: ]

That is disturbing, Eamonn.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:41 Adam J

1:41

Pat Lackey:

A cloud passed over the sun for just a minute.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:41 Pat Lackey

1:42

[Comment From RonRon: ]

You channelled the Dark One himself

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:42 Ron

1:42

Andrew Johnson:

I'm a bit frightened.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:42 Andrew Johnson

1:42

[Comment From Adam JAdam J: ]

Eamonn, you passed the event horizon. Your computer is going to eviscerate you by the end of the day.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:42 Adam J

1:42

[Comment From Darth MariottiDarth Mariotti: ]

SEARCH YOUR SOUL, BRENNAN, YOU KNOW IT TO BE TRUE

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:42 Darth Mariotti

1:42

Eamonn:

AHHHHH

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:42 Eamonn

1:43

[Comment From TheStarterWifeTheStarterWife: ]

Meanwhile, on the other side of the wormhole, Marriotti just completed War and Peace Part:II.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:43 TheStarterWife

1:43

[Comment From morty from jerseymorty from jersey: ]

any news from the Mets front??

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:43 morty from jersey

1:43

Eamonn:

What's up, Morty?

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:43 Eamonn

1:44

Andrew Johnson:

ESPN now saying Bay to Pirates won't be happening. So much conflicting information. My head might explode. Toronto is in on Bay and Raul Ibanez according to Jayson Stark?

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:44 Andrew Johnson

1:44

Andrew Johnson:

er Bay to the Red Sox.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:44 Andrew Johnson

1:44

[Comment From Ken RosenthalKen Rosenthal: ]

ANy truth that I have been traded to ESPN for Buster Olney

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:44 Ken Rosenthal

1:45

Pat Lackey:

If Jeffrey Loria ruins this Bay trade, I will find him and kick him in the shins.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:45 Pat Lackey

1:45

Andrew Johnson:

That would be a STEAL for ESPN

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:45 Andrew Johnson

1:45

Andrew Johnson:

Robothal is unstoppable.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:45 Andrew Johnson

1:45

Eamonn:

Yeah, Robothal is a monster.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:45 Eamonn

1:45

Pat Lackey:

I saw Olney on TV last night. I'm not sure he's slept in a week. And I don't even have HD.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:45 Pat Lackey

1:45

[Comment From JP RicciardiJP Ricciardi: ]

Blue Jays are close to acquiring Adam Dunn. Lolzers that strike-out tool doesn't even like baseball

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:45 JP Ricciardi

1:46

[Comment From Ken RosenthalKen Rosenthal: ]

I AM AN ANIMAL

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:46 Ken Rosenthal

1:47

[Comment From AndrewAndrew: ]

Is it true that the White Sox want Griffey in Center? And if so does this mean that the over under on him severely injuring a part of his leg is August 7th?

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:47 Andrew

1:47

Eamonn:

No clue, Andrew, but that sounds like a horrible idea. He can't even play right anymore; center would be ugly to watch.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:47 Eamonn

1:48

Pat Lackey:

Do not question Griffey's defense, E.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:48 Pat Lackey

1:48

Pat Lackey:

/throat slash

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:48 Pat Lackey

1:48

[Comment From Adam JAdam J: ]

Pat Lackey's coming to us live from 1996

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:48 Adam J

1:49

[Comment From MDTMDT: ]

$15,000 wheelchair gets stolen from kid at Sox/Twins game... Griffey traded to Sox shortly after... I'm just sayin', people, piece it together

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:49 MDT

1:49

Andrew Johnson:

Maybe the White Sox are hoping if they have enough injury-prone, halfway-decent players one will always be in the lineup. I tried this strategy with Cliff Floyd and JD Drew on my fantasy team one year. It did not end well.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:49 Andrew Johnson

1:49

Pat Lackey:

I don't even know what that means, but 1996 was a sweet year for me. I dominated Little League in my rec specs.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:49 Pat Lackey

1:50

Eamonn:

I don't want to talk about 1996. I did horrible things that year. Things I will never escape, no matter if I come to America and meet my cousin Roman.

/Nico Bellic

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:50 Eamonn

1:50

[Comment From harold reynoldsharold reynolds: ]

What do you have to do to get on this blog

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:50 harold reynolds

1:50

Eamonn:

Be funny. Or stupid. Either/or.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:50 Eamonn

1:51

[Comment From Roman BellicRoman Bellic: ]

Hey cousin! Why you no call?

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:51 Roman Bellic

1:52

[Comment From Carrot TopCarrot Top: ]

Hey, I'm pretty stupid.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:52 Carrot Top

1:52

[Comment From McLargeHugeMcLargeHuge: ]

So what's the deal with the Blue Jays? Are they gonna get both Bay and Dunn?

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:52 McLargeHuge

1:52

Eamonn:

I don't know, but Dunn going to the Blue Jays would be the single funniest thing ever. That handshake/press conference would be sheer hilarity.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:52 Eamonn

1:53

Pat Lackey:

I don't know if they have what the Pirates want for Bay. The PG says that the Pirates and Rays might still be talking.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:53 Pat Lackey

1:53

[Comment From NateNate: ]

I'm done with MLB trade stress right now. I'm liveblogging this Manny trade over at my site, and I turned off ESPN and am just refreshing news sites. I'm just gonna chill out, play NCAA Football, and make Ball State a dynasty.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:53 Nate

1:54

Eamonn:

Nate, it's a double edged sword, if I may use a cliche. More information is awesome -- FanHouse wouldn't be here were it not for the concept of more information is better -- but still, I feel you: it's exhausting.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:54 Eamonn

1:54

[Comment From WadeWade: ]

Whitlock will be proud of you Nate.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:54 Wade

1:54

[Comment From enricoenrico: ]

What are the chances Pat Gillick trades Jason Donald, Lou Marson, and seven other prospects to Seattle for a bag of balls and an autographed Jim Thome 1993 Leaf baseball card?

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:54 enrico

1:55

Brinson:

84% last time I checked Vegas

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:55 Brinson

1:55

Andrew Johnson:

100 percent?

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:55 Andrew Johnson

1:55

Pat Lackey:

Where's Vegas Watch when you need him?

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:55 Pat Lackey

1:56

Brinson:

"OBP is for idiotsssss!"

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:56 Brinson

1:56

Brinson:

It's like the bat signal for VW

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:56 Brinson

1:57

Eamonn:

He's not the hero we need. He's the blogger we deserve.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:57 Eamonn

1:57

Brinson:

Actually, per his site, he's watching us right now. Creepy.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:57 Brinson

1:57

[Comment From Mr. SUPERCOOLDUDEMr. SUPERCOOLDUDE: ]

Also, if Griffey Jr. plays anywhere else but first base and DH, Ken Williams needs his brain adjusted.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:57 Mr. SUPERCOOLDUDE

1:58

Eamonn:

I think Ken Williams is this deadline's Joker. "You want to hear how I got Ken Griffey, Jr.? BWAHAHAHA"

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:58 Eamonn

1:59

Brinson:

I think the White Sox have to be making another move. Rumor is they're including Fornelli.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:59 Brinson

1:59

[Comment From MDTMDT: ]

Breaking: Adam Dunn, in desperate attempt to get GMs to love him, out saving handicapped kittens from burning buildings

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:59 MDT

1:59

Brinson:

That's what I hear from most of the GMs* I've spoken to* today.

Thursday July 31, 2008 1:59 Brinson

2:00

Brinson:

Or to quote Chad Ford, "Uh, hold on everyone...I'll be right back to the chat....got another GM on the phone! Looks like Ben Wallace for Jermain O'Neal!!!"

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:00 Brinson

2:00

[Comment From Orange ChuckOrange Chuck: ]

Fornelli is only a fair trade if Manny is involved

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:00 Orange Chuck

2:00

Brinson:

The Sox really can't deal with increased clubhouse troubles.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:00 Brinson

2:01

Eamonn:

Fornelli was behind that blow-up doll stir-up earlier in the year, anyway. Good riddance.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:01 Eamonn

2:01

[Comment From MDTMDT: ]

That's just Fornelli being Fornelli

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:01 MDT

2:02

Eamonn:

Everyone leaving comments: Keep doing so, just not about Manny unless you actually hear something of interest. "What's up with Manny?" comments are being ignored intentionally.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:02 Eamonn

2:03

[Comment From Mr. SUPERCOOLDUDEMr. SUPERCOOLDUDE: ]

What's up with Manny? LOLZ

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:03 Mr. SUPERCOOLDUDE

2:03

Eamonn:

BAHHHH

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:03 Eamonn

2:03

Brinson:

Best. Comment. Name. Ever.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:03 Brinson

2:03

[Comment From AndrewAndrew: ]

But what if I want to know how Manny Trillo's doing? Or Manny Sanguillen? He was 70's Pittsburghcatchertastic!

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:03 Andrew

2:03

[Comment From robeyrobey: ]

manny. manny. manny.manny. manny. manny.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:03 robey

2:03

[Comment From Orange ChuckOrange Chuck: ]

I heard Fox Sports offered a trade for Fornelli for Joe Buck and a female intern but Fanhouse turned it down because they wouldnt know what to do if a female was around them

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:03 Orange Chuck

2:03

Brinson:

Wow. Didn't see any of that coming.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:03 Brinson

2:04

Pat Lackey:

Manny Sanguillen is still doing awesome.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:04 Pat Lackey

2:04

[Comment From MDTMDT: ]

Manny being spammy

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:04 MDT

2:04

Eamonn:

MDT wins the live blog.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:04 Eamonn

2:04

Brinson:

We would ask her for fantasy advice. And besides, it's not like Joe Buck is an upgrade over Fornelli anyway. At least Fornelli cares about his job.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:04 Brinson

2:06

[Comment From Detective John KimbleDetective John Kimble: ]

It's not a tumor

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:06 Detective John Kimble

2:06

Eamonn:

Um, OK?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:06 Eamonn

2:06

[Comment From robeyrobey: ]

The Marlins have aborted trade talks involving Manny Ramirez and traded Jorge Cantu for Alex Rodriguez instead. They also have signed Barry Bonds and convinced Mike Piazza to come out of retirement. Go Fish!

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:06 robey

2:07

[Comment From bob nuttingbob nutting: ]

we have manny sanguillen chained up to a fence behind centerfield at pnc park selling bbq sandwiches

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:07 bob nutting

2:07

[Comment From Orange ChuckOrange Chuck: ]

by the way, speaking of fantasy advice and women, thank you for that Fantasy Sports Girl link a few days ago, I need real advice in my league and its better then a beergut telling me what to do when I plan my draft

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:07 Orange Chuck

2:07

Eamonn:

Oh man, Orange Chuck. We're not even going to touch that.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:07 Eamonn

2:08

Andrew Johnson:

*Crickets*

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:08 Andrew Johnson

2:09

Brinson:

Hey, wow, thanks a lot for enjoying my advice.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:09 Brinson

2:09

Brinson:

/jumps out of office window

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:09 Brinson

2:09

Brinson:

/does not have an office or window

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:09 Brinson

2:09

Andrew Johnson:

Here's a real rumor. Angelina Jolie might play Catwoman in the next Batman movie

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:09 Andrew Johnson

2:09

[Comment From MDTMDT: ]

On the plus side, we've found the first person on the internet to like that video... it only took three days.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:09 MDT

2:09

Brinson:

Also, is anyone else really sick of "THE DEAL IS DEAD .... FOR NOW" when it's 2:00 on the day of the deadline type stuff?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:09 Brinson

2:10

Andrew Johnson:

Who is Scott Reese. Where is Ravech?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:10 Andrew Johnson

2:10

Eamonn:

Dude, Angelina Jolie, I don't know. That's ... OK? I guess? I feel like the Batman movies, with Heath Ledger, entered sort of a new generation of actors. Though Gary Oldman is still hanging around.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:10 Eamonn

2:10

Pat Lackey:

I wish I could be watching TV right now.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:10 Pat Lackey

2:10

[Comment From peter gammonspeter gammons: ]

my sources tell me that three doors down is about to trade their lead singer for some other weiner from some other weiner band

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:10 peter gammons

2:11

Pat Lackey:

Peter Gammons wins.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:11 Pat Lackey

2:11

[Comment From Chad KroegerChad Kroeger: ]

I'm not a weiner!

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:11 Chad Kroeger

2:11

Pat Lackey:

ESPN says Bay to Rays talks are back on.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:11 Pat Lackey

2:12

Brinson:

So does Rosenthal.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:12 Brinson

2:12

[Comment From GourmetDudGourmetDud: ]

All this indecision is breaking my spirit. At this point, I'm distraught and confused enough to go see Step Brothers.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:12 GourmetDud

2:12

Eamonn:

Gourmet, whatever you do, do NOT go see Step Brothers.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:12 Eamonn

2:12

[Comment From peter gammonspeter gammons: ]

breaking news. even i hate nickleback.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:12 peter gammons

2:12

[Comment From MDTMDT: ]

Bay to Rays in play you say?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:12 MDT

2:13

[Comment From TheStarterWifeTheStarterWife: ]

On in May.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:13 TheStarterWife

2:13

Pat Lackey:

Jay Ray Bay to the Rays in play I say I say.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:13 Pat Lackey

2:13

[Comment From Vegas WatchVegas Watch: ]

Bay to the Rays! Do it.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:13 Vegas Watch

2:13

[Comment From phuze44phuze44: ]

let them play

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:13 phuze44

2:13

Andrew Johnson:

Our first Keith Law sighting!

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:13 Andrew Johnson

2:13

Eamonn:

Keith Law? Where? In the sky? Is it a bird? A plane?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:13 Eamonn

2:14

Andrew Johnson:

ESPN News

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:14 Andrew Johnson

2:14

Eamonn:

Awww.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:14 Eamonn

2:14

Andrew Johnson:

I hope he starts talking about cooking and restaurants to fill airtime

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:14 Andrew Johnson

2:15

[Comment From eat a bulleteat a bullet: ]

Its ESPNews

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:15 eat a bullet

2:15

Eamonn:

Take your own advice, dude.

(Just kidding! Don't do that!)

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:15 Eamonn

2:15

[Comment From Mr. SUPERCOOLDUDEMr. SUPERCOOLDUDE: ]

I heard FanHouse was trading FSG to Deadspin for the rights to Rick Chandler? Is this true?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:15 Mr. SUPERCOOLDUDE

2:15

Eamonn:

Peter Gammons, can you confirm or deny?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:15 Eamonn

2:16

[Comment From MDTMDT: ]

Chandler's a 10-5 guy.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:16 MDT

2:16

[Comment From DWDW: ]

So is there going to be any baseball talk on this BASEBALL live blog?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:16 DW

2:16

Eamonn:

We're doing our best, man. There's just not a lot of juicy news leaking that isn't contradicted five different ways. It's hard out here for a live blogger.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:16 Eamonn

2:16

Andrew Johnson:

We can't make up the news, mang

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:16 Andrew Johnson

2:17

Andrew Johnson:

Or can we?!?!?!

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:17 Andrew Johnson

2:17

Eamonn:

Bwa ... ha ... hAHAHAHAHAHA

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:17 Eamonn

2:17

[Comment From Mr. SUPERCOOLDUDEMr. SUPERCOOLDUDE: ]

No.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:17 Mr. SUPERCOOLDUDE

2:17

Andrew Johnson:

Albert Pujols has been traded to Boston for Julio Lugo

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:17 Andrew Johnson

2:17

Andrew Johnson:

It worked on my PS3

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:17 Andrew Johnson

2:17

[Comment From TheStarterWifeTheStarterWife: ]

Sure you can. Isn't that what running a sports blog is all about? Half-baked theories, rumors, and checking Wikipedia?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:17 TheStarterWife

2:18

[Comment From MDTMDT: ]

Seriously, if things don't pick up by 3 PM I'm setting the game to "CPU Accepts All Trades"

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:18 MDT

2:18

Pat Lackey:

The Dugout guys copyrighted the Wikipedia thing. We're really just slaves to them.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:18 Pat Lackey

2:18

[Comment From Orange ChuckOrange Chuck: ]

Andrew, congrats, you just caused mass suicide rates in St. Louis

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:18 Orange Chuck

2:18

[Comment From FavreForeverPlzFavreForeverPlz: ]

Gentlemen, I think we need to remember what's really important here: where are the Brett Favre updates?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:18 FavreForeverPlz

2:18

[Comment From teibsteibs: ]

so when manny was traded for favre, does manny now get the 20 mill over 10 years?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:18 teibs

2:18

Pat Lackey:

BRETT FAVRE TO PITTSBURGH FOR JASON BAY AND CASEY HAMPTON'S DINNER.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:18 Pat Lackey

2:18

Pat Lackey:

How's that?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:18 Pat Lackey

2:19

Eamonn:

BRETT FARVE TO CHICAGO FOR MIKE FONTENOT

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:19 Eamonn

2:19

Andrew Johnson:

The Jays are in on Ibanez and Bay. That sounds made up, but it's real. Get Roy Halladay a championship! Or at least two games closer to the wild card lead.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:19 Andrew Johnson

2:19

[Comment From NateNate: ]

News can easily be made up. Fox does it all the time, and they're way more reputable than FanHouse.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:19 Nate

2:19

Pat Lackey:

What do the Jays have to give up for Bay? I'm honestly asking.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:19 Pat Lackey

2:19

Eamonn:

Take it back, Nate.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:19 Eamonn

2:20

Eamonn:

Yeah, this is actual, like, news now. Let's listen in:

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:20 Eamonn

2:20

Andrew Johnson:

Well I would think Travis Snider at minimum.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:20 Andrew Johnson

2:20

Andrew Johnson:

The Jays do not have a good farm system

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:20 Andrew Johnson

2:20

Andrew Johnson:

Left-handed pitcher Brett Cecil could also be in play (Go Terps!)

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:20 Andrew Johnson

2:21

[Comment From eamonns' livereamonns' liver: ]

Jack Daniels for a mojito and steak dinner

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:21 eamonns' liver

2:21

Eamonn:

I don't even know what that means, but it all sounds delicious.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:21 Eamonn

2:22

[Comment From WHYGStan BelindaWHYGStan Belinda: ]

That is exactly what the Bucs need, prospects from a farm system as bad as theirs.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:22 WHYGStan Belinda

2:23

Pat Lackey:

It's all relative. The Pirates' system is awesome but anyone would take Andrew McCutchen from them if they were stupid enough to offer him.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:23 Pat Lackey

2:23

Pat Lackey:

Also, Stan Belinda?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:23 Pat Lackey

2:23

Pat Lackey:

Do you want me to start crying at work?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:23 Pat Lackey

2:23

[Comment From Adam JAdam J: ]

No Pat, we'd just talk about Sid Bream for that

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:23 Adam J

2:24

[Comment From Omar MinayaOmar Minaya: ]

If those are the type of prospects Pittsburgh wants for Bay, I got some of those

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:24 Omar Minaya

2:24

Pat Lackey:

Pittsburgh Post Gazette says the Jays talks aren't really happening.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:24 Pat Lackey

2:24

Andrew Johnson:

Snider and Cecil are both quality prospects. That'd be enough for Bay, but I doubt Toronto would offer them.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:24 Andrew Johnson

2:24

Pat Lackey:

The Pirates asked for Snider and Marcum, supposedly.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:24 Pat Lackey

2:24

Andrew Johnson:

Snider and Cecil are better than anything Omar Minaya can ask for.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:24 Andrew Johnson

2:24

Andrew Johnson:

offer*

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:24 Andrew Johnson

2:24

Pat Lackey:

Sid Bream was a good guy with a sweet mustache that ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:24 Pat Lackey

2:25

Pat Lackey:

Stan Belinda, Barry Bonds, and Jim Leyland all deserve 100x more blame for that debacle than Sid.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:25 Pat Lackey

2:25

[Comment From AndreAndre: ]

What team do you guys think has the best system?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:25 Andre

2:25

Pat Lackey:

Yes, I'm still bitter about 1992. Leave me alone.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:25 Pat Lackey

2:25

Andrew Johnson:

Tampa Bay, no question.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:25 Andrew Johnson

2:25

Eamonn:

It's not even really close.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:25 Eamonn

2:26

[Comment From DFloodDFlood: ]

what's your take on the Pudge trade for Farnsworth and do you see tigers making any more moves

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:26 DFlood

2:26

Pat Lackey:

The pitching depth in their organization is insane.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:26 Pat Lackey

2:26

Andrew Johnson:

It's the Rays then everyone else, a better debate would be who is No. 2.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:26 Andrew Johnson

2:26

Pat Lackey:

The Pudge for Farnsworth trade was ... baffling?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:26 Pat Lackey

2:26

Pat Lackey:

Especially for the Tigers.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:26 Pat Lackey

2:26

Andrew Johnson:

Detroit just reshuffled the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:26 Andrew Johnson

2:26	Who won the Pudge-Farns trade? Yankees ( 73% ) Tigers ( 5% ) Neither ( 10% ) We did. This is hilarious. ( 12% ) Thursday July 31, 2008 2:26

2:27

Andrew Johnson:

With Jones to the DL it makes a bit more sense today, especially since Brandon Inge is just as good as Pudge

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:27 Andrew Johnson

2:28

[Comment From NopeNope: ]

Rays will choke like they always do

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:28 Nope

2:28

Eamonn:

Hahaha. The Rays haven't even ever had a chance to choke, silly.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:28 Eamonn

2:28

Pat Lackey:

They've choked before. In April. I don't see that as being applicable.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:28 Pat Lackey

2:29

[Comment From NopeNope: ]

I do but I guess that's where we differ

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:29 Nope

2:29

Eamonn:

Nope is the funniest commenter ever.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:29 Eamonn

2:30

Andrew Johnson:

Barring some sort of Buckner-esque Bucky Dent-type moment, whoever misses out on the playoffs from the AL East will have no shame in being on the outside looking in

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:30 Andrew Johnson

2:30

Pat Lackey:

Unless it's the Yankees. In which case Hank will kill all of them with his bare hands

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:30 Pat Lackey

2:30

Eamonn:

I suppose, given their story, that if the Rays fail to make the playoffs this year that could be considered a "choke", but then we're just getting into semantics.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:30 Eamonn

2:31

[Comment From MDTMDT: ]

Gotta love any farm system that gives you Evan Longoria, B.J. Upton, and Nuke LaLoosh

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:31 MDT

2:31

Andrew Johnson:

Let's not forget Elijah Dukes here

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:31 Andrew Johnson

2:31

[Comment From AMPAMP: ]

dawg

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:31 AMP

2:32

[Comment From teibsteibs: ]

my dad with his $1900 half season ticket purchase and 60-1 odds on the rays will certainly consider it a choke.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:32 teibs

2:32

[Comment From BoringBoring: ]

You guys getting paid to do this or did you draw the short straw?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:32 Boring

2:33

Eamonn:

Come on, Boring, this is fun. What else do you have to do?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:33 Eamonn

2:34

Pat Lackey:

I could be reading science journal articles. All things considered, I don't mind doing this.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:34 Pat Lackey

2:34

Andrew Johnson:

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2008/07/not_buying_repo.html

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:34 Andrew Johnson

2:35

Andrew Johnson:

Reports are beginning to surface that the three-way deal for Manny Ramirez is dead or close to dead, but I’m not buying it. The same snags exist now that existed this morning, and there’s still time to work them out before the 4 p.m. deadline. Also, according to a source, Manny is spending the day shopping in Boston, relaxing and waiting like the rest of us. He is anxious to learn where he may be playing Friday.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:35 Andrew Johnson

2:35

Eamonn:

I'm neither shopping nor relaxing. Baseball players get all the luck!

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:35 Eamonn

2:35

Andrew Johnson:

A shopping spree with Manny would be more entertaining than this

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:35 Andrew Johnson

2:36

Eamonn:

I don't even want to know what Manny spends his money on. But if he was home today, he definitely saw three or four ads for Fisher Price toys, and he is totally Amexing them as we speak.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:36 Eamonn

2:36

[Comment From MDTMDT: ]

That might be the first time "Manny" and "anxious" were used within two sentences without "his owners, the rest of the team, and all the fans" being in between

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:36 MDT

2:36

Andrew Johnson:

Don't change Dunn! Don't listen to Phillips. Don't you ever change!

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:36 Andrew Johnson

2:37

Eamonn:

Uhoh. Did Steve Phillips say Adam Dunn needed to stop striking out so much? And become a team player, or some such nonsense?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:37 Eamonn

2:37

Andrew Johnson:

Cafardo also says the Dodgers are now in play for Manny.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:37 Andrew Johnson

2:37

Pat Lackey:

Manny for Kemp?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:37 Pat Lackey

2:37

Andrew Johnson:

Some nonsense about Adam Dunn seeing a hitting coach or something

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:37 Andrew Johnson

2:37

Andrew Johnson:

You wonder if Manny plus cash for Kemp would be enough

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:37 Andrew Johnson

2:38

Andrew Johnson:

If I was Theo I would do that trade

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:38 Andrew Johnson

2:38

Pat Lackey:

Who knows who's running the Dodgers though. It might depend on who's extension they dialed.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:38 Pat Lackey

2:38

[Comment From AndrewAndrew: ]

The Dodgers won't do a thing...they are Baseball teases

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:38 Andrew

2:38

[Comment From MDTMDT: ]

I dunno, a hitting coach might be just what Dunn needs to finally claw his OPS over 1.500

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:38 MDT

2:38

Pat Lackey:

I'm guessing that the Pirates and Red Sox are looking elsewhere just in case the Marlins can't get themselves together.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:38 Pat Lackey

2:39

Pat Lackey:

According to the PG, the Pirates are still trying to pry Wade Davis or Hellickson from the Rays in exchage for Bay.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:39 Pat Lackey

2:39

[Comment From Vegas WatchVegas Watch: ]

If I was Theo I would've done that trade yesterday and saved us this whole mess.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:39 Vegas Watch

2:39

Andrew Johnson:

Awww, we need one big name hanging in the balance don't we VW?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:39 Andrew Johnson

2:40

Andrew Johnson:

Drama drama drama

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:40 Andrew Johnson

2:40

[Comment From TonyTony: ]

WOuldnt it be nuts if somewhere down the line manny would be wearing pinstrips?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:40 Tony

2:41

Eamonn:

"Remember that time you said the love you make is equal to the love you take? That was AWESOME!"

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:41 Eamonn

2:41

Brinson:

Did I miss anything while doing real work?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:41 Brinson

2:41

[Comment From teibsteibs: ]

hahaha nice chris farley show reference

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:41 teibs

2:41

Brinson:

Grumble-grumble-grumble

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:41 Brinson

2:42

Eamonn:

You missed nothing. We talked about the Dark Knight for a minute, and people sent about 8,000,323as1043295 (<--not a real number) submissions asking simply: "Manny?"

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:42 Eamonn

2:43

[Comment From TheStarterWifeTheStarterWife: ]

Really - I feel like I am watching a Mexican standoff between the Rays and the Sox. The Pirates and Marlins are just innocent bystanders.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:43 TheStarterWife

2:43

[Comment From AndrewAndrew: ]

It's remember when you said the love you make is eaqual to the love you take? "yeah." Is that true? "yeah." Awesome!

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:43 Andrew

2:43

Brinson:

Woah, woah, woah. Is that even appropriate?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:43 Brinson

2:43

Andrew Johnson:

Actually from the reports it seems like the Pirates and Marlins are the ones who gummed everything up, or at least they're pointing the finger at each other.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:43 Andrew Johnson

2:43

Brinson:

/still sensitive about FSG criticism

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:43 Brinson

2:43

Pat Lackey:

Like in Reservoir Dogs? Because the Pirates are definitely Tim Roth, squealing on the ground with a bullet in their gut.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:43 Pat Lackey

2:43

Eamonn:

OK, you got it Andrew. I botched the quote.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:43 Eamonn

2:44

Eamonn:

You gonna trade me Manny, little doggie, or are you gonna bite?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:44 Eamonn

2:45

Brinson:

Wouldn't it be the other way around?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:45 Brinson

2:45

Brinson:

The trade would be the bite, no?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:45 Brinson

2:45

Brinson:

/ducks

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:45 Brinson

2:45

Eamonn:

Oh whatever.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:45 Eamonn

2:45

[Comment From TheStarterWifeTheStarterWife: ]

Pat -Exactly. The Buccos are Tim Roth.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:45 TheStarterWife

2:45

[Comment From Eamonn4PresidentEamonn4President: ]

Whats the deal is it going to be alot of last minute trades?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:45 Eamonn4President

2:46

Eamonn:

I'm not going to answer that, I just appreciate the use of Eamonn4President as a way to get on the board. So there you go.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:46 Eamonn

2:46

Brinson:

Someone's been on one of these live blogs before. Talk about guaranteeing yourself an approved comment

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:46 Brinson

2:46

[Comment From MDTMDT: ]

I see it as more of a John Woo standoff; it's going to go in super-slow motion for about two hours, everything else in the building is going to get shot to pieces, and when it's over they're going to release a hundred doves.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:46 MDT

2:46

Andrew Johnson:

Isn't it always? The Nomar deal went down to the last 10 minutes in 2004

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:46 Andrew Johnson

2:47

Pat Lackey:

Especially with the Pirates trying to milk everyone for as many prospects as possible and the Marlins begging for more money. They'll both take those requests right to the wire if they have to.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:47 Pat Lackey

2:48

[Comment From TheStarterWifeTheStarterWife: ]

MDT - And if by a hundred doves, you mean Less Nessman releasing turkeys over Cincinnati, yes.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:48 TheStarterWife

2:49

Andrew Johnson:

The Los Angels Dodgers have re-entered the Manny Ramirez Sweepstakes, SI.com has learned. The much-discussed deal to send the embattled superstar to the Marlins has hit a slight snag, leading the Red Sox to pursue other possibilities. The Marlins deal may not be dead. But the Dodgers could become a real player here and knock out Florida at the last minute. According to people familiar with the talks, the Dodgers have offered young outfielder Andre Ethier, but Boston is believed to prefer the ultra-talented Matt Kemp.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:49 Andrew Johnson

2:49

Andrew Johnson:

That's the latest from Jon Heyman.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:49 Andrew Johnson

2:49

Pat Lackey:

So we KNOW that's not true ...

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:49 Pat Lackey

2:50

Andrew Johnson:

Can't see Ethier being an acceptable return for Ramirez unless there are prospects coming with him.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:50 Andrew Johnson

2:50

Eamonn:

Haha. I was waiting for that, Pat.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:50 Eamonn

2:51

[Comment From MDTMDT: ]

Because of course, the best way to solve a crowded outfield is to trade away a talented young OF for an older OF whose contract is expiring.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:51 MDT

2:51

Pat Lackey:

Hey, don't question Colletti.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:51 Pat Lackey

2:51

[Comment From Vegas WatchVegas Watch: ]

Kemp is too much, and Ethier isn't enough. We need to average them or something.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:51 Vegas Watch

2:51

Pat Lackey:

Kemp + Ethier / 2 = Jason Bay

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:51 Pat Lackey

2:52

Pat Lackey:

Actually, should be (Kemp + Ethier) / 2 = Jason Bay

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:52 Pat Lackey

2:52

Pat Lackey:

/geek

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:52 Pat Lackey

2:53

Andrew Johnson:

Maybe the Red Sox throw in a pitching prospect and money for Kemp

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:53 Andrew Johnson

2:53

[Comment From Vegas WatchVegas Watch: ]

Also, actually, isn't Manny supposed to be on the right side of the equation?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:53 Vegas Watch

2:53

[Comment From PatForPresidentPatForPresident: ]

I'm throwing in my support for Eamonn's political opponent, Pat Lackey.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:53 PatForPresident

2:53

Andrew Johnson:

Manny + Money + Michael Bowden for Kemp?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:53 Andrew Johnson

2:53

Pat Lackey:

Crap, I messed up a decimal point. It's always some mundane detail.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:53 Pat Lackey

2:54

Eamonn:

This is NOT a mundate deteail, MICHAEL.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:54 Eamonn

2:54

Eamonn:

detail*

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:54 Eamonn

2:54

[Comment From MattMatt: ]

They won't give up Kemp, he's too good & young

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:54 Matt

2:54

[Comment From Vegas WatchVegas Watch: ]

I think that might be too much, depending on how much they like Bowden.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:54 Vegas Watch

2:55

[Comment From WHYGStan BelindaWHYGStan Belinda: ]

Who will be this year's Matt Moris for the Bucs? Maybe they can trade McLouth for Sidney Ponson.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:55 WHYGStan Belinda

2:55

Pat Lackey:

Never misunderestimate the Dodgers desperation and stupidity, Matt.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:55 Pat Lackey

2:55

Pat Lackey:

Stan Belinda, you shut your dirty mouth. I'll close down WHYGAVS if that happens, hand to god.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:55 Pat Lackey

2:55

Eamonn:

Word is bond, yo.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:55 Eamonn

2:58

Pat Lackey:

Is it just me or has there been no new news about anything for like 20 minutes?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:58 Pat Lackey

2:58

Pat Lackey:

Maybe the internets broke.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:58 Pat Lackey

2:58

Eamonn:

Yeah. Nothing is happening. So let's talk about other stuff.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:58 Eamonn

2:59

Andrew Johnson:

It's pretty quiet, the storm is gathering

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:59 Andrew Johnson

2:59

Eamonn:

In the meantime, let's discuss: Best Nickelback album?

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:59 Eamonn

2:59

Eamonn:

Just kidding don't discuss that.

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:59 Eamonn

2:59

Pat Lackey:

Noooooooooo

Thursday July 31, 2008 2:59 Pat Lackey

3:00

[Comment From AndrewAndrew: ]

Their last one...because it always comes with the hope that they'll never do another one agan.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:00 Andrew

3:00

Pat Lackey:

We could do it if it were ironically in memory of Professor Farnsworth

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:00 Pat Lackey

3:00

[Comment From teibsteibs: ]

we're under an hour...Cue GOB's theme song "It's the final countdown!..."

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:00 teibs

3:01

Pat Lackey:

Yes! More Arrested Development talk!

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:01 Pat Lackey

3:01

[Comment From AMPAMP: ]

Why hasn't fanhouse covered Sal Fasano's return to the big leagues with Cleveland? The man has 2 RBIs so far today!

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:01 AMP

3:01

Brinson:

It's not an illusion, Manny

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:01 Brinson

3:01

[Comment From teibsteibs: ]

even if no trades are made...still...where did the lighter fluid come from?

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:01 teibs

3:02

[Comment From GOBGOB: ]

You think the guy with the $3,000 suit is going to hold the door for you? Come On!

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:02 GOB

3:02

[Comment From busterbuster: ]

heyyyy brothher

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:02 buster

3:02

Brinson:

Joe Buck = the world's first analrapist

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:02 Brinson

3:02

Brinson:

analyst + therapist combo for the censors reading

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:02 Brinson

3:03

Pat Lackey:

Mistaking a bunch of garishly dressed men for Pirates, Manny unknowingly boarded a van full of homosexuals.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:03 Pat Lackey

3:04

Andrew Johnson:

Breaking News: D.C. United has acquired Ivan Guerrero from the San Jose Earthquakes.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:04 Andrew Johnson

3:04

Pat Lackey:

Theo to the Marlins: THERE'S ALWAYS MONEY! IN THE BANANA STAND!!!

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:04 Pat Lackey

3:05

Pat Lackey:

Not Ivan Guerrero!

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:05 Pat Lackey

3:05

Brinson:

Theo to Manny: NO TOUCHING!

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:05 Brinson

3:05

[Comment From wayne huizengawayne huizenga: ]

i had 250,000 in the walls of that blockbuster saved for manny!

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:05 wayne huizenga

3:05

Andrew Johnson:

Steve Phillips: The only man in America who wouldn't have done the Teixeira deal if he was Angels GM

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:05 Andrew Johnson

3:05

Pat Lackey:

Steve Phillips: Such a bad GM that John Kruk regularly makes fun of him for it.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:05 Pat Lackey

3:08

Eamonn:

In the meantime, I should report that Jim Edmonds has started the Cubs game today by going 2-2, 2HR, with 5 RBI. Including a grand slam. I was officially wrong about the Jim Edmonds trade. Gladly so.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:08 Eamonn

3:09

[Comment From rickrick: ]

BREAKING NEWS ken griffy jr traded to white sox

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:09 rick

3:09

Andrew Johnson:

With the three-way deal between the Pirates, Red Sox, and Marlins falling through, an MLB.com source says that the Rays are going to acquire right-handed hitting outfielder Jason Bay for Minor League prospects including shortstop Reid Brignac and right-hander Jeff Niemann. The Rays have not confirmed the deal. --Bill Chastain

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:09 Andrew Johnson

3:09

Eamonn:

Rick just got out of bed.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:09 Eamonn

3:09

Andrew Johnson:

Take with the appropriate grain of salt

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:09 Andrew Johnson

3:09

Pat Lackey:

From the Post-Gazette:

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:09 Pat Lackey

3:09

Pat Lackey:

Oh, and just got a call from a baseball operations guy from another team, and he reiterated the common view today that the Pirates have their price -- not just for Bay -- and are not varying from it. Makes one wonder if the Pirates really wanted to move Bay, or they just wanted to see if they could land something really good.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:09 Pat Lackey

3:09

Pat Lackey:

link: http://community.post-gazette.com/blogs/pbc/

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:09 Pat Lackey

3:10

Pat Lackey:

Seems unlikely that the Pirates' price is just Niemann and Brignac

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:10 Pat Lackey

3:11

Pat Lackey:

Hard to know what to believe today, though

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:11 Pat Lackey

3:13

Brinson:

And while you wait, you can watch the quick downward spiral of American civilization: http://projects.flowingdata.com/walmart/

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:13 Brinson

3:15

[Comment From ViktorViktor: ]

Man, MDS blows you guys out of the water with the live blogs. No posting of our comments or anything. Slow updates. Pssssh. Fail.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:15 Viktor

3:15

Pat Lackey:

The PG says that if Bay goes to the Rays without Hellickson, Price, Hellickson, or Brignac than there's going to be some serious quantity involved.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:15 Pat Lackey

3:15

[Comment From Bud SeligBud Selig: ]

Nothing will happen by 4 p.m. All the big trades are done or dead.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:15 Bud Selig

3:16

Eamonn:

Well, then. I guess we can go home now.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:16 Eamonn

3:16

Brinson:

Viktor....you do know there's not any real action going on right now, right?

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:16 Brinson

3:16

[Comment From Vegas WatchVegas Watch: ]

Well the report is that it's Brignac and Niemann.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:16 Vegas Watch

3:16

Andrew Johnson:

According to a baseball source, the Sox feel they cannot include outfielder Brandon Moss in a deal for Kansas City Royals left-handed reliever Ron Mahay largely because they need Moss as an insurance policy for the mercurial Ramirez. Should Ramirez pull another stunt as he did last week and deem himself unfit to play for any length of time - whether the result of a real of imaginary injury - the Sox feel they need Moss to provide them with enough outfield depth to endure such issues.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:16 Andrew Johnson

3:16

Andrew Johnson:

From the Boston Herald

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:16 Andrew Johnson

3:17

Andrew Johnson:

Congratulations Manny! You've made yourself such a problem that you're preventing the Red Sox from working on other areas on the roster.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:17 Andrew Johnson

3:17

Eamonn:

Good to know Manny can hold the Sox hostage even as they're actually trying to trade him.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:17 Eamonn

3:18

Pat Lackey:

I'm grasping for a "Manny being ..." joke here

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:18 Pat Lackey

3:18

Pat Lackey:

And failing.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:18 Pat Lackey

3:18

Andrew Johnson:

It's not very funny anymore

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:18 Andrew Johnson

3:18

Eamonn:

Manny being The Negotiator.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:18 Eamonn

3:19

[Comment From WHYGStan BelindaWHYGStan Belinda: ]

Manny should be traded for a corn baller

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:19 WHYGStan Belinda

3:20

[Comment From ViktorViktor: ]

I bet the Dodgers thing falls through because they insist on the Sox taking Andru, or however he spells it, Jones with Kemp. Coletti loves him some trades.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:20 Viktor

3:20

Pat Lackey:

They could just place it in the other team's dugout and watch them burn themselves.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:20 Pat Lackey

3:20

Andrew Johnson:

Andruw + Kemp for Manny + Coco

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:20 Andrew Johnson

3:20

[Comment From peter gammonspeter gammons: ]

mlbtraderumors is reporting brignac and niemann for bay

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:20 peter gammons

3:20

Andrew Johnson:

The Red Sox would have to send money

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:20 Andrew Johnson

3:21

[Comment From richrich: ]

AP Headline describes the Manny trade talks as "fluid" Does that mean Theo is slashing his wrists?

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:21 rich

3:24

Eamonn:

God, can Manny just get traded already so everyone will stop submitting comments? I want to approve everyone, I really do, if I read one more Manny Being Manny thing I will turn this liveblogging car right around, mister.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:24 Eamonn

3:24

Pat Lackey:

Are we there yet?

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:24 Pat Lackey

3:24

Pat Lackey:

Are we there yet?

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:24 Pat Lackey

3:24

[Comment From AMPAMP: ]

Eamonn being Eamonn

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:24 AMP

3:24

Eamonn:

FINE AMP YOU WIN

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:24 Eamonn

3:25

[Comment From DSDS: ]

Sorry for the ignorance, just joined; did anything happen with the Cubs/Sox today?

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:25 DS

3:25

Eamonn:

The Sox traded for Kenny Lofton.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:25 Eamonn

3:25

Brinson:

Woo-hoo.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:25 Brinson

3:25

Pat Lackey:

Wait, did that actually happen?

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:25 Pat Lackey

3:26

Eamonn:

Honestly, I have no idea anymore.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:26 Eamonn

3:26

[Comment From ScottScott: ]

The Sox traded for Ken Griffey Jr.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:26 Scott

3:26

Eamonn:

Ah, there it is.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:26 Eamonn

3:26

Pat Lackey:

I'm trapped in Jason Bay world praying that something good happens.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:26 Pat Lackey

3:27

[Comment From Rick ReillyRick Reilly: ]

The whole act of trading is racist. You know who else traded minorities around? Slave owners, that's who.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:27 Rick Reilly

3:27

Eamonn:

+1 Rick Reilly.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:27 Eamonn

3:28

Andrew Johnson:

Does Jason Bay count as a minority? He's Canadian

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:28 Andrew Johnson

3:28

Pat Lackey:

I'm not your buddy, guy!

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:28 Pat Lackey

3:28

Eamonn:

Can the Cubs get Bay? They need to complete the Dempster-Gaudin-Bay Canadian triumverate.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:28 Eamonn

3:28

Eamonn:

I'm not your friend, buddy!

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:28 Eamonn

3:29

Brinson:

YES! Rick Reilly is back, son!

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:29 Brinson

3:29

[Comment From WHYGStan BelindaWHYGStan Belinda: ]

The man always keeps a good brother like Jason Bay down

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:29 WHYGStan Belinda

3:29

[Comment From WadeWade: ]

i'm not your guy, pal!

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:29 Wade

3:29

Brinson:

(For those that don't know, Rick Reilly dominated the commentating at our All Star Live Blog, a.k.a. Aaron Cook and the Carpal Tunnel Nighthorse)

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:29 Brinson

3:29

[Comment From Rick ReillyRick Reilly: ]

Yea, I just woke up after sleeping in a big pile of money that ESPN foolishl...err wisely dumped on me.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:29 Rick Reilly

3:30

[Comment From Rick ReillyRick Reilly: ]

You guys forgot to mention I occasionally write for ESPN at times

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:30 Rick Reilly

3:30

Andrew Johnson:

30 ... minutes ... to go ... GASP

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:30 Andrew Johnson

3:31

Brinson:

BAY TO THE RAYS!!!

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:31 Brinson

3:32

[Comment From AndrewAndrew: ]

YAY! IT'S OFFICIAL!

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:32 Andrew

3:32

[Comment From RobeyRobey: ]

Bay to Rays? according to...?

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:32 Robey

3:32

Pat Lackey:

Says who?

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:32 Pat Lackey

3:32

Pat Lackey:

I don't see it confirmed anywhere.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:32 Pat Lackey

3:32

Eamonn:

I'm looking too. Anyone?

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:32 Eamonn

3:32

Andrew Johnson:

I'm not seeing it anywhere

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:32 Andrew Johnson

3:33

Pat Lackey:

The PG says that Brignac's agent hasn't heard anything

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:33 Pat Lackey

3:33

Pat Lackey:

http://community.post-gazette.com/blogs/pbc/archive/2008/07/31/pirates-turn-bay-focus-elsewhere.aspx

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:33 Pat Lackey

3:33

[Comment From Rick ReillyRick Reilly: ]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/07/jason-bay-trade.html

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:33 Rick Reilly

3:33

Pat Lackey:

That's still unconfirmed, from everything I can tell.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:33 Pat Lackey

3:33

[Comment From Vegas WatchVegas Watch: ]

That's not a confirmation.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:33 Vegas Watch

3:33

Andrew Johnson:

That's an MLB.com Trade Blog report and no one else has confirmed it.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:33 Andrew Johnson

3:34

[Comment From ScottScott: ]

Ken Rosenthal said it it in the works not done yet

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:34 Scott

3:34

Eamonn:

I'd trust Robothal to be the head of the CIA, so I'm going with that.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:34 Eamonn

3:34

Brinson:

Sorry about that. As soon as I wrote it someone walked in my 4x4 office space

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:34 Brinson

3:35

Pat Lackey:

If anyone is curious, the skies recenty opened up over UNC and an Old Testament downpour has emerged

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:35 Pat Lackey

3:35

Brinson:

so I had to disappear. "WHAT PART ABOUT LIVE BLOG DON"T YOU GET BOSSMAN?"

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:35 Brinson

3:35

Brinson:

It will be quick Lackey, it passed by here in about 25 mins

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:35 Brinson

3:36

Pat Lackey:

We're about 10 minutes in

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:36 Pat Lackey

3:36

Pat Lackey:

nd it's just getting worse

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:36 Pat Lackey

3:36

Brinson:

Yeah it was quick and nasty.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:36 Brinson

3:36

Brinson:

/whatever you want joke

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:36 Brinson

3:38

Pat Lackey:

It may be a sign.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:38 Pat Lackey

3:38

Pat Lackey:

It did cause me to look away from my computer for the first time in two hours

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:38 Pat Lackey

3:38

Pat Lackey:

That's not necessarily a bad thing

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:38 Pat Lackey

3:39

[Comment From ookook: ]

something must have just happened with the sox/manny/bay/rays etc because Sons of Sam Horn just went down hard

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:39 ook

3:39

Pat Lackey:

Second MLB.com report says Bay for Brignac/Niemann

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:39 Pat Lackey

3:39

Pat Lackey:

http://trades.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/07/bay_appears_headed_south.html

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:39 Pat Lackey

3:41

Brinson:

Can we get an official thumbs up from WHYGAVS on that?

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:41 Brinson

3:41

Pat Lackey:

Noo

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:41 Pat Lackey

3:41

Pat Lackey:

Not on Niemann and Brignac.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:41 Pat Lackey

3:41

Andrew Johnson:

I don't like this deal for the Pirates, if it;s as rumored

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:41 Andrew Johnson

3:41

Pat Lackey:

It's not enough for Bay, if that's what's going down.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:41 Pat Lackey

3:41

Eamonn:

Uhoh. I don't know if I can deal with more WHYGAVS sadness.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:41 Eamonn

3:41

Brinson:

Sorry that was supposed to say "i[ pr dpwm

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:41 Brinson

3:42

Brinson:

ohmysweetlord, up or down

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:42 Brinson

3:42

Pat Lackey:

I should change the header on WHYGAVS to read: ABANDON ALL HOPE, YE WHO ENTER

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:42 Pat Lackey

3:42

[Comment From TheStarterWifeTheStarterWife: ]

I think Pat's nickname should be Eeyore.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:42 TheStarterWife

3:43

Brinson:

George Michael Walk time for WHYGAVS?

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:43 Brinson

3:43

Pat Lackey:

Andrew Friedmann: I got Jason Bay!"

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:43 Pat Lackey

3:43

Pat Lackey:

Brian Cashman: I got Xavier Nady!

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:43 Pat Lackey

3:43

Pat Lackey:

Neal Huntington: I got a rock!

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:43 Pat Lackey

3:44

Eamonn:

Hey, you take that rock and you like it. There are lots of countries that don't have rocks, young man.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:44 Eamonn

3:44

Andrew Johnson:

Well, it's not that bad, but it's not that great either.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:44 Andrew Johnson

3:44

[Comment From Vegas WatchVegas Watch: ]

Did you guys read that second MLB.com article? It is basically saying their original report was wrong.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:44 Vegas Watch

3:45

Pat Lackey:

We'll see. I want more confirmation than MLB.com before I get up on the bridge

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:45 Pat Lackey

3:45

[Comment From chester the cheetos guychester the cheetos guy: ]

Wow its official.......Manny to Pirates!!!!!

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:45 chester the cheetos guy

3:45

Pat Lackey:

The second report says the first report was basically right. Are you seeing something I'm not, VW?

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:45 Pat Lackey

3:45

Eamonn:

Chester, Pat's in a fragile place. Don't joke.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:45 Eamonn

3:46

[Comment From AnnAnn: ]

http://trades.mlblogs.com/ --Says the Rays may be offering only one of Brignac/Niemann

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:46 Ann

3:46

Pat Lackey:

If it's only one of those two, I can't see how this trade can be anywhere near completed.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:46 Pat Lackey

3:46

Andrew Johnson:

Contradictions abound.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:46 Andrew Johnson

3:47

Eamonn:

13 minutes?

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:47 Eamonn

3:47

[Comment From peter gammonspeter gammons: ]

manny just got traded for pat lishtash

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:47 peter gammons

3:48

Andrew Johnson:

Steve Reese says the final 12 mins are gripping. I beg to differ

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:48 Andrew Johnson

3:48

[Comment From eeforceeeforce: ]

ahhh I am scared, deadline!

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:48 eeforce

3:48

[Comment From Jim Ray HartJim Ray Hart: ]

Listach?

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:48 Jim Ray Hart

3:48

[Comment From Vegas WatchVegas Watch: ]

Pat, read the link again. They changed it between when the two of us read it. I'm serious. http://trades.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/07/bay_appears_headed_south.html

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:48 Vegas Watch

3:50

Pat Lackey:

They did, VW. You're right. I didn't see that they changed it until after I posted that last comment.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:50 Pat Lackey

3:50

[Comment From chester the cheetos guychester the cheetos guy: ]

marlins arent done! http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/07/31/manny.sweepstakes/?eref=T1

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:50 chester the cheetos guy

3:51

Pat Lackey:

Ah, that post is updated again saying that there was no deal sent to the commish as of five minutes ago.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:51 Pat Lackey

3:52

Andrew Johnson:

It's important to point out here, while the deadline is at 4PM, we might not hear of a deal for another 15 mins or half hour after the deadline, so stay awake ... er tuned

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:52 Andrew Johnson

3:52

Pat Lackey:

It could be longer

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:52 Pat Lackey

3:52

Pat Lackey:

The Matt Morris nightmare took almost an hour to come through the pipelines last year.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:52 Pat Lackey

3:52

[Comment From AndrewAndrew: ]

Man, I miss the midnight trade deadline

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:52 Andrew

3:53

Andrew Johnson:

Are you kidding me?

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:53 Andrew Johnson

3:54

[Comment From bucsfanbucsfan: ]

does the commish synchronize his clock w/ time.windows.com??

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:54 bucsfan

3:54

[Comment From Rick ReillyRick Reilly: ]

I miss midnight cocktails with Stephan A. Smith

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:54 Rick Reilly

3:54

[Comment From peter gammonspeter gammons: ]

manny just got traded for ron kittle

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:54 peter gammons

3:55

[Comment From Al KalineAl Kaline: ]

and a box of skittles

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:55 Al Kaline

3:55

[Comment From WHYGStan BelindaWHYGStan Belinda: ]

Thinking of Morris, maybe the Bucs can pry Al Reyes from the Rays.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:55 WHYGStan Belinda

3:55

Pat Lackey:

Nooooooooooooo! You really are Stan Belinda sent here to torture me, aren't you?

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:55 Pat Lackey

3:56

[Comment From Peter GammonsPeter Gammons: ]

Manny to Seattle for Raul Ibanez straight up

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:56 Peter Gammons

3:57

Pat Lackey:

I would just like to note that it actually seems possible to me that Peter Gammons would go aroudn the internet and post rumors on blogs.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:57 Pat Lackey

3:58

Eamonn:

Yet another reason to love Gammons.

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:58 Eamonn

3:58

Andrew Johnson:

Seriously. Arthur Rhodes and Ken Griffey Jr.'s corpse? That's it. C'mon trade deadline gimme more

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:58 Andrew Johnson

3:59

[Comment From Buzz BissingerBuzz Bissinger: ]

I think you're full of ****

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:59 Buzz Bissinger

3:59

Andrew Johnson:

Rich Harden "strikes out too many guys"

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:59 Andrew Johnson

3:59

Andrew Johnson:

Steve Phillips people!

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:59 Andrew Johnson

3:59

Eamonn:

AHHHHHHH

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:59 Eamonn

3:59

Pat Lackey:

That's amazing

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:59 Pat Lackey

3:59

Pat Lackey:

How can he possibly make that argument?

Thursday July 31, 2008 3:59 Pat Lackey

4:00

[Comment From Peter GammonsPeter Gammons: ]

I'm going to kill Steve Phillips with my passive aggressiveness

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:00 Peter Gammons

4:00

Andrew Johnson:

He doesn't get deep into games

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:00 Andrew Johnson

4:00

Eamonn:

He throws too many pitches?

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:00 Eamonn

4:00

Andrew Johnson:

Basically.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:00 Andrew Johnson

4:00

Pat Lackey:

Nothing to do with his incredibly frail arm.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:00 Pat Lackey

4:00

Andrew Johnson:

Oh gee, three hours without Brett Favre update. I was really fixing there.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:00 Andrew Johnson

4:01

[Comment From Ernie BanksErnie Banks: ]

News Flash: Manny just got traded to the Nomiuri Giants.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:01 Ernie Banks

4:01

[Comment From peter gammonspeter gammons: ]

manny just got traded for ricky jordan

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:01 peter gammons

4:01

Andrew Johnson:

It's the Yomiuri Giants

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:01 Andrew Johnson

4:01

Andrew Johnson:

Geez Ernie

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:01 Andrew Johnson

4:01

Eamonn:

Who to believe -- fake Gammons or fake Banks?

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:01 Eamonn

4:01

[Comment From Buster OlneyBuster Olney: ]

Manny for Matt Morris

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:01 Buster Olney

4:02

Eamonn:

Cruel.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:02 Eamonn

4:02

Pat Lackey:

Turn that knife a little more, please.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:02 Pat Lackey

4:02

[Comment From mikemike: ]

matt morris isnt e ven playing

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:02 mike

4:03

Eamonn:

HAHA. No. No he is not. And that's the problem.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:03 Eamonn

4:03

Eamonn:

Sorry Pat.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:03 Eamonn

4:03

[Comment From Mr. CubMr. Cub: ]

I think I could get away with dressing up as Ronnie Woo woo for a week and go on a month long bender in wrigleyville and no one would notice it was me...except for that statue!

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:03 Mr. Cub

4:03

[Comment From Buster OlneyBuster Olney: ]

Manny to the Yankees for an autographed Bo Derek poster from "10"

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:03 Buster Olney

4:03

Pat Lackey:

MLB.com says Ibanez isn't moving

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:03 Pat Lackey

4:04

Andrew Johnson:

Breaking News: I was offered Chris Davis and Clayton Kershaw for Jake Peavy in my keeper fantasy league

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:04 Andrew Johnson

4:05

Eamonn:

Whoa.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:05 Eamonn

4:05

Eamonn:

Whoa.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:05 Eamonn

4:05

[Comment From teibsteibs: ]

so basically nothing happened since griffey which i found out about at 715 am...did it

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:05 teibs

4:05

Andrew Johnson:

That's what it looks like

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:05 Andrew Johnson

4:06

Pat Lackey:

Rosenthal put up an update about ten minutes ago to say that the Boston/Florida/Pittsburgh talks were back on

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:06 Pat Lackey

4:06

Pat Lackey:

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8397286/Latest-news-and-rumors-from-around-MLB

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:06 Pat Lackey

4:06

Eamonn:

I was just going to link that. Robothal keeping things alive.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:06 Eamonn

4:07

[Comment From SAFairGameSAFairGame: ]

What're the rules on filing extensions with commissioner's office? Or is 4pm EST it; no extensions possible?

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:07 SAFairGame

4:07

Andrew Johnson:

There are no extensions

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:07 Andrew Johnson

4:08

[Comment From MDTMDT: ]

I was just on a conference call for the last hour. My firm is offering two paralegals, a box of paperclips, and a donut to be named later for Manny. Did I miss anything?

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:08 MDT

4:08

Andrew Johnson:

Time extensions are typical only when a team is trying to sign a player to a long-term deal (like Johan Santana) but the trade isn't official in those cases.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:08 Andrew Johnson

4:09

Pat Lackey:

Right, but the deal may have been submitted to Selig before 4 PM with no word of it leaking out yet.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:09 Pat Lackey

4:09

Andrew Johnson:

A source of mine tells me Manny Ramirez will now take Terry Francona's position and become Boston's Mannyger

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:09 Andrew Johnson

4:10

Pat Lackey:

Robothal also said the Pirates were the ones holding things up with the Sox and Marlins. I'm guessing they were trying to pry more from Tampa and failed.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:10 Pat Lackey

4:11

Andrew Johnson:

If Manny Ramirez does remain a Red Sox, I think Boston should consider picking up his option for 2009 and trading him

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:11 Andrew Johnson

4:11

Pat Lackey:

Aaand he says the three team deal is dead again

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:11 Pat Lackey

4:11

Pat Lackey:

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8397286/Latest-news-and-rumors-from-around-MLB

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:11 Pat Lackey

4:11

Andrew Johnson:

Why would they do him any favors at this point?

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:11 Andrew Johnson

4:13

[Comment From Buster OlneyBuster Olney: ]

Rob Neyer is saying he thinks Bay is being dealt, but not in the manny deal

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:13 Buster Olney

4:13

[Comment From TheStarterWifeTheStarterWife: ]

At this point, I feel like Ken Rosenthal has dicked me around more than any other man in my life.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:13 TheStarterWife

4:13

Eamonn:

Language, TSW. Language.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:13 Eamonn

4:14

[Comment From Green MonsterGreen Monster: ]

The Red Sox should pick up options for 09 ans 10 and tell Manny to go back to being Manny

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:14 Green Monster

4:14

[Comment From MDTMDT: ]

Yeah TSW, you can't say "R-senthal" on AOL

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:14 MDT

4:14

[Comment From TheStarterWifeTheStarterWife: ]

But really, he's been tossing out every rumor to go his way this week

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:14 TheStarterWife

4:14

[Comment From spike eckertspike eckert: ]

In the Senate, they sometimes "stop the clock" to get a bill done on time. Can Selig do that?

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:14 spike eckert

4:14

Pat Lackey:

MLB.com has now completely reversed themselves and said there's no Bay deal at all. And because they're the ones that reported the deal in the first place, you should completely ignore them.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:14 Pat Lackey

4:15

Andrew Johnson:

Jonah Keri saying that Red Sox may have used Manny-Bay talk to distract the Rays. Interesting theory, not sure I buy it, but interesting.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:15 Andrew Johnson

4:16

Eamonn:

Yeah, that's pretty diabolical stuff. But Keri is usually pretty reliable.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:16 Eamonn

4:16

[Comment From MLB.comMLB.com: ]

Ignore the man behind the curtain over there....

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:16 MLB.com

4:17

[Comment From MDTMDT: ]

MLB.com is now reporting that they're projecting Manny to win Florida's electoral votes.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:17 MDT

4:17

[Comment From Big SteinBig Stein: ]

My baseball people loved Ken Phelps' bat.They kept saying Ken Phelps, Ken Phelps.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:17 Big Stein

4:18

Andrew Johnson:

AP officially calling deal dead

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:18 Andrew Johnson

4:18

Pat Lackey:

Which one? Any one involving Bay?

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:18 Pat Lackey

4:18

Andrew Johnson:

Manny

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:18 Andrew Johnson

4:19

Andrew Johnson:

By extension probably Bay

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:19 Andrew Johnson

4:19

Pat Lackey:

I feel so unsatisfied

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:19 Pat Lackey

4:19

Pat Lackey:

/Teddy KGB

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:19 Pat Lackey

4:19

Andrew Johnson:

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:19 Andrew Johnson

4:20

[Comment From SAFairGameSAFairGame: ]

What's to keep Manny from clearing waivers next month though? That's an awfully big contract for a team to just try to block a trade with.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:20 SAFairGame

4:21

[Comment From AndrewAndrew: ]

Sweet! Arthur Rhodes is the 2nd biggest deal of the Trade Deadline!

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:21 Andrew

4:21

Pat Lackey:

It's not that big any more. And even if Manny clears waivers, a guy like Bay probably won't.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:21 Pat Lackey

4:21

Eamonn:

To everyone asking: No, Manny didn't get traded. Now stop asking.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:21 Eamonn

4:22

[Comment From WHYGStan BelindaWHYGStan Belinda: ]

Does this represent baby steps for the Bucs? No Matt Morris or Bobby Hill this year.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:22 WHYGStan Belinda

4:22

[Comment From MLB.comMLB.com: ]

Packers announce that they are rescinding the $20 million offer to Favre and claiming Manny on a waiver deal for the Brewers instead.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:22 MLB.com

4:23

Andrew Johnson:

OK so today was a bit of a dud, but you can't complain about this trading season as a whole

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:23 Andrew Johnson

4:23

[Comment From Vegas WatchVegas Watch: ]

http://trades.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/07/bay_in_dodger_blue.html

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:23 Vegas Watch

4:24

MLBDOTCOM:

HI I"M A LIAR!!!!!

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:24 MLBDOTCOM

4:24

[Comment From teibsteibs: ]

so how does manny live this one down in the boston clubhouse? it's like george costanza coming back to work monday morning after a vicious quit/walkout.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:24 teibs

4:24

Brinson:

MLB Trade Blog = Bigger Fail Than Dane Cook?

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:24 Brinson

4:24

Pat Lackey:

NESN says Manny is traded

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:24 Pat Lackey

4:25

Pat Lackey:

Maybe to LA

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:25 Pat Lackey

4:25

Pat Lackey:

With Bay and the Pirates involved.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:25 Pat Lackey

4:25

Pat Lackey:

http://trades.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/07/bay_in_dodger_blue.html

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:25 Pat Lackey

4:26

Pat Lackey:

I'm digging for more better links

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:26 Pat Lackey

4:26

Andrew Johnson:

NESN says that????

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:26 Andrew Johnson

4:26

Pat Lackey:

My brain is fried. I apologize

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:26 Pat Lackey

4:26

Pat Lackey:

Yeah, friend from Boston just called me.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:26 Pat Lackey

4:26

Pat Lackey:

Says Edes is reporting it

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:26 Pat Lackey

4:26

Pat Lackey:

Can't get boston.com to load at the moment.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:26 Pat Lackey

4:26

Pat Lackey:

Someone might want to check SOSH

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:26 Pat Lackey

4:26

Eamonn:

This is the EXTREME INSANITY I PROMISED.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:26 Eamonn

4:26

[Comment From Manny RamirezManny Ramirez: ]

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON? AM I BEING TRADED OR NOT?

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:26 Manny Ramirez

4:26

[Comment From MDTMDT: ]

Aaaah! Zombie deal! Kill it kill it kill it

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:26 MDT

4:27

Pat Lackey:

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/thebuzz/

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:27 Pat Lackey

4:27

Andrew Johnson:

Manny traded? Link|Comments (0) Posted by David Lefort, Boston.com Staff July 31, 2008 04:19 PM The Globe's Gordon Edes just reported that a deal has gone down with Manny Ramirez. More details to come.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:27 Andrew Johnson

4:27

Pat Lackey:

From the Globe's Gordon Edes (4:20 p.m.): "It's my understanding that a trade has gone down with Manny Ramirez."

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:27 Pat Lackey

4:28

[Comment From TimTim: ]

Yes I'm watching NESN right now. He is gone. To Dodgers!!

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:28 Tim

4:29

[Comment From Vegas WatchVegas Watch: ]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/07/31/manny.sweepstakes/index.html?eref=T1

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:29 Vegas Watch

4:29

Eamonn:

By Jon Heyman, SI.com

The Red Sox traded Manny Ramirez to the Dodgers late Thursday afternoon, SI.com has learned.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:29 Eamonn

4:29

Eamonn:

WHAT IS GOING ON

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:29 Eamonn

4:29

[Comment From StickmanStickman: ]

He and Jeff Kent should get along great!!

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:29 Stickman

4:29

[Comment From Buster OlneyBuster Olney: ]

Too many updates! Make it stop! Mom? MOM?!?

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:29 Buster Olney

4:30

Andrew Johnson:

Address the situation ESPNews!

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:30 Andrew Johnson

4:30

[Comment From Joe TorreJoe Torre: ]

No, No, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:30 Joe Torre

4:30

[Comment From Ted KennedyTed Kennedy: ]

We must bring Manny Ramirez out from the shadows.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:30 Ted Kennedy

4:30

[Comment From TheStarterWifeTheStarterWife: ]

What is going on is that I have about 20 tabs open on my browser and I am pretty sure I just traded Bay for a few shares of my 401K.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:30 TheStarterWife

4:31

[Comment From Buster OlneyBuster Olney: ]

Neyer is saying there are reports of the dodgers getting Manny and Bay?!?!

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:31 Buster Olney

4:31

Pat Lackey:

My friend from Boston seemed to think it was a 3-way deal with Bay going to the Dodgers, then to the Red Sox.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:31 Pat Lackey

4:31

[Comment From Frank CostanzaFrank Costanza: ]

How could you trade Jay Beuhner? He's got a rocket arm!

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:31 Frank Costanza

4:31

Pat Lackey:

I haven't seen that reported anywhere on the internet, though.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:31 Pat Lackey

4:31

Andrew Johnson:

Bay to the Sox according to Heyman

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:31 Andrew Johnson

4:32

Pat Lackey:

There it is.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:32 Pat Lackey

4:33

Andrew Johnson:

Have to wait on the prospects to judge this. Something tells me the Pirates may be getting a nice haul from Colletti

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:33 Andrew Johnson

4:34

Pat Lackey:

Yes. I smiled every time in the last two weeks when his name came up

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:34 Pat Lackey

4:34

Pat Lackey:

We could've ditched the first three hours of this chat, huh?

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:34 Pat Lackey

4:35

Eamonn:

Yeah, definitely so. But it was fun.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:35 Eamonn

4:35

Pat Lackey:

It was. No arguments here

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:35 Pat Lackey

4:36

Andrew Johnson:

The announcement will be made in conjunction with a World Baseball Classic announcement at Dodger Stadium shortly.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:36 Andrew Johnson

4:36

[Comment From woofwoof: ]

the manny deal is destroying the internet

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:36 woof

4:36

[Comment From MLB.comMLB.com: ]

We are officially announcing that it was fun.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:36 MLB.com

4:36

Andrew Johnson:

Manny Ramirez has been traded to the Dodgers in a three-team blockbuster, pending the approval of the commissioner's office, according to a source with knowledge of the deal. Pirates outfielder Jason Bay is headed to the Red Sox. The Pirates will receive Andy LaRoche and right-hander Bryan Morris from the Dodgers and outfielder Damien Moss and releiver Craig Hansen from the Red Sox. The Red Sox will pay all of the approximately $7 million remaining on Ramirez's contract.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:36 Andrew Johnson

4:36

Andrew Johnson:

Brandon Moss not Damian

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:36 Andrew Johnson

4:37

Andrew Johnson:

Andy LaRoche is the jewel here

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:37 Andrew Johnson

4:37

Eamonn:

Yeah, not too shabby, Pirates fans.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:37 Eamonn

4:37

Andrew Johnson:

Moss and Hansen are spare parts to Boston but will help in Pittsburgh

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:37 Andrew Johnson

4:37

Pat Lackey:

I like LaRoche.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:37 Pat Lackey

4:37

Pat Lackey:

Maybe he'll whup his brother into shape in April.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:37 Pat Lackey

4:37

[Comment From Vegas WatchVegas Watch: ]

Where's that from Andrew

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:37 Vegas Watch

4:37

Andrew Johnson:

LaRoche is better than both Niemann and Brignac

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:37 Andrew Johnson

4:38

[Comment From Andruw JonesAndruw Jones: ]

I was hoping I was involved...I love Primanti sandwiches.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:38 Andruw Jones

4:38

Andrew Johnson:

Robothal

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:38 Andrew Johnson

4:38

[Comment From Andruw JonesAndruw Jones: ]

I guess that means I will be a full time pinch hitter

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:38 Andruw Jones

4:39

Andrew Johnson:

And defensive sub

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:39 Andrew Johnson

4:39

[Comment From Vegas WatchVegas Watch: ]

Looks like a great trade for BOS, I guess that's because they're kicking in so much cash.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:39 Vegas Watch

4:40

[Comment From RossRoss: ]

Pirates made out very nice

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:40 Ross

4:40

Andrew Johnson:

Bryan Morris is coming off TJ surgery in 2007. He was the No. 12 prospect for the Dodgers according to Baseball America

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:40 Andrew Johnson

4:40

[Comment From CarrackCarrack: ]

Neil Huntington for president

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:40 Carrack

4:40

[Comment From TheStarterWifeTheStarterWife: ]

This isn't shabby at all.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:40 TheStarterWife

4:41

Pat Lackey:

Brace yourselves for this ... but I like this trade.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:41 Pat Lackey

4:41

Andrew Johnson:

Turning Bay into LaRoche-plus is pretty nice

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:41 Andrew Johnson

4:41

Pat Lackey:

That was the world ending.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:41 Pat Lackey

4:41

Eamonn:

YES

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:41 Eamonn

4:41

Eamonn:

Storm clouds are legitimately gathering at the window. Pat, what have you done?

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:41 Eamonn

4:41

Pat Lackey:

DOGS AND CATS, SLEEPING TOGETHER, MASS HYSTERIA!

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:41 Pat Lackey

4:42

Pat Lackey:

That's not my go to line or anything.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:42 Pat Lackey

4:42

Eamonn:

Even Jay Mariotti likes this trade.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:42 Eamonn

4:42

Eamonn:

(Don't worry, I won't channel the Dark One again.)

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:42 Eamonn

4:43

Andrew Johnson:

Here's Morris' line for the season: 3.20 ERA 81.2 IP 72 K 31 BB for Single-A Great Lakes

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:43 Andrew Johnson

4:43

[Comment From TheStarterWifeTheStarterWife: ]

Any word And word on when we get to go find Littlefield and kick in the shins for not making trades like this during his tenure?

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:43 TheStarterWife

4:44

[Comment From AdamAdam: ]

How come the sox have to give up prospects as well? Isn't paying manny's contract off enough? (Not that Hansen is anything special)

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:44 Adam

4:44

[Comment From JAson BAyJAson BAy: ]

The hotlist was just bragging about "breaking" the news ha ha.ESPN are clowns

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:44 JAson BAy

4:45

Andrew Johnson:

They're getting Jason Bay and not giving up a real Top 10 prospect and Bay is signed through next season. This is a steal for Boston

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:45 Andrew Johnson

4:45

Andrew Johnson:

OK, maybe not a steal

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:45 Andrew Johnson

4:46

Andrew Johnson:

But a very nice deal. ManRam is gone and they aren't giving up anything but money and some spare parts.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:46 Andrew Johnson

4:46

Pat Lackey:

It's a great deal for the Sox. Bay will hit just as well as Manny does at this point in his career

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:46 Pat Lackey

4:47

[Comment From Vegas WatchVegas Watch: ]

MLB.com has started deleting blog posts--like the Bay to Dodgers one--but don't worry, I have the screen grabs.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:47 Vegas Watch

4:47

[Comment From MattMatt: ]

This turns Kemp into even more of a beast, hitting in front of Manny.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:47 Matt

4:47

Andrew Johnson:

I'm not convinced of that with the league switch, but his defense and baserunning will more than make up for Ramirez's bat

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:47 Andrew Johnson

4:49

Eamonn:

MORE BREAKING NEWS: Johnny Depp to play Riddler in the next Batman?

http://www.holymoly.co.uk/news/28/johnny-depp-lined-up-to-play-the-riddler-in-next-batman-film-3842.html

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:49 Eamonn

4:49

Eamonn:

Unrelated to baseball, but still awesome.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:49 Eamonn

4:49

[Comment From TheStarterWifeTheStarterWife: ]

Vegas Watch - try to grab the screen that gave out the Area 51 location.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:49 TheStarterWife

4:51

[Comment From woofwoof: ]

every sports related site in the internet is running slow right now

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:51 woof

4:51

[Comment From Moonshine MikeMoonshine Mike: ]

They moved Area 51 to an air force base south of Colorado Springs. This was not that long ago due to the ground water contamination in Area 51

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:51 Moonshine Mike

4:53

[Comment From Mr. SUPERCOOLDUDEMr. SUPERCOOLDUDE: ]

I was just in a three hour meeting. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:53 Mr. SUPERCOOLDUDE

4:54

Eamonn:

Things went crazy, SUPERCOOLDUDE. Things. Went. Crazy.

I promised extreme insanity, and did I not deliver?

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:54 Eamonn

4:55

[Comment From Moonshine MikeMoonshine Mike: ]

You always deliver Eamonn. The Postman E always rings twice?

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:55 Moonshine Mike

4:55

Eamonn:

Well done, Moonshine.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:55 Eamonn

4:56

[Comment From MikeMike: ]

This chat sucks. The one yesterday was better.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:56 Mike

4:56

Eamonn:

Gah.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:56 Eamonn

4:56

[Comment From Moonshine MikeMoonshine Mike: ]

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:56 Moonshine Mike

4:57

Eamonn:

Anyway, that pretty much brings us up to speed. Unless an alien spaceship lands on Chavez Ravine, that should -- should -- be all the news for today. Make sure to stick around the MLB FH as we get caught up, and thanks for checking out the blahg.

Much love, people. PEACE.

Thursday July 31, 2008 4:57 Eamonn

4:57

Writer: Eamonn

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