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(04/03/2008)

12:26

ericasadun:

Pytey are you with us?

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:26 ericasadun

12:26

[Comment From MikeMike: ]

Hi!

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:26 Mike

12:27

TUAW:

MTR here

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:27 TUAW

12:45

pytey:

hello

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:45 pytey

12:46

pytey:

needed to spoof the user-agent to be IE7 or it doesn't work at all

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:46 pytey

12:46

pytey:

shoot the developer

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:46 pytey

12:46

pytey:

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:46 pytey

12:47

ericasadun:

Pytey, we should be live. I'm so glad we have you here to chat about iPwned

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:47 ericasadun

12:47

pytey:

Hi Erica, thanks for inviting me

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:47 pytey

12:48

ericasadun:

Let's get the TUAW readers who may not be familiar with iPwned up to speed

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:48 ericasadun

12:48

ericasadun:

What can you tell me about the iPwned tool?

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:48 ericasadun

12:49

pytey:

The tool is something we've put together so that unsigned code can be run on the iPhone

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:49 pytey

12:49

pytey:

(in a nutshell)

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:49 pytey

12:49

ericasadun:

What I've heard about iPwned is this: that you can use it to load custom firmware bundles onto the iPhone. Is that a good description?

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:49 ericasadun

12:50

pytey:

PwnageTool.app is the application for the Mac that combines this and other features

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:50 pytey

12:50

ericasadun:

By unsigned code, do you mean code that Apple hasn't approved?

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:50 ericasadun

12:50

ericasadun:

What exactly is signing?

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:50 ericasadun

12:50

pytey:

The application will allow "custom" firmware bundles called ".ipsw" files to be installed using iTunes

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:50 pytey

12:50

ericasadun:

Ipsw bundles are those things you download when you want to upgrade your firmware, right?

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:50 ericasadun

12:51

pytey:

signing is a way of cryptographically fingerprintting a file to ensure that it has come from a particular source

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:51 pytey

12:51

pytey:

excuse my typos, it is late where I am ;)

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:51 pytey

12:51

ericasadun:

No worries

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:51 ericasadun

12:52

pytey:

yes, .ipsw files are the files usually distributed by apple to update the iPhone or iPod touch and iPods

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:52 pytey

12:52

ericasadun:

We have a bunch of questions from TUAW readers.

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:52 ericasadun

12:52

[Comment From LeeLee: ]

What things can we personally put into the firmware or is that lcoked?

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:52 Lee

12:52

pytey:

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:52 pytey

12:52

pytey:

I'll read some from the page here.

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:52 pytey

12:53

pytey:

@lumamatthews yes, in theory, the tool could be the basis of using a different OS

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:53 pytey

12:53

pytey:

one of the close friends of the DevTeam is working on this

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:53 pytey

12:53

ericasadun:

Linux, no?

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:53 ericasadun

12:53

pytey:

yes. exactly

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:53 pytey

12:54

ericasadun:

It would be awesome to do an opt-restore in iTunes and install a custom Linux ipsw

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:54 ericasadun

12:54

pytey:

@Lee You can add Applications and all sorts of other patches into the ipsw files

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:54 pytey

12:54

ericasadun:

Here's another question from Kurt

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:54 ericasadun

12:54

pytey:

OK.

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:54 pytey

12:54

[Comment From Kurt Van de PoelKurt Van de Poel: ]

Will PwnageTool keep working after the june 2.0 upgrade?

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:54 Kurt Van de Poel

12:55

pytey:

Kurt, we don't know honestly, but we are pretty sure that you'll be able to use the phone in the current state.

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:55 pytey

12:55

pytey:

We'll see when that comes around

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:55 pytey

12:55

ericasadun:

It's always hard to see the future

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:55 ericasadun

12:56

ericasadun:

I think what people want to know is if this method looks like it has enough fundamental value that it will work no matter what firmware is installed. Doees this rely on current firmware/baseband stuff?

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:56 ericasadun

12:57

pytey:

Yes, we think so. but we don't want to appear too big for our boots, we've been accused of that before :P

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:57 pytey

12:57

[Comment From SciphoneSciphone: ]

Just wanted to thank you pytey for your contributions and hard work :)

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:57 Sciphone

12:57

[Comment From moxiemastermoxiemaster: ]

it works great :)

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:57 moxiemaster

12:57

[Comment From VijayVijay: ]

Hi pytey, Is this just for installing .ipsw firmwares, or will I also be able to compile an App and install it on the device without the iphone dev program certificate?

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:57 Vijay

12:57

ericasadun:

Does ipwned have anything to do with program certificates? And does it work with 1.2/2.0?

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:57 ericasadun

12:58

pytey:

@Vijay: I've heard reports that people are using the tool to allow them to develop using the SDK

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:58 pytey

12:58

[Comment From EVHEVH: ]

How easy is it to remove the iPwnage firmware.. is it possible to restore to a "virgin" state?

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:58 EVH

12:58

pytey:

So, yes. But of course we don't advise this.

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:58 pytey

12:58

[Comment From moxiemastermoxiemaster: ]

i know you can comment on the 1.2/2.0 firmware as the dev team has a legit version. Have you found a way to run unsigned code on these firmwares such as installer.app?

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:58 moxiemaster

12:59

pytey:

@moxie yes, this works, so I'm told

Thursday April 3, 2008 12:59 pytey

1:00

pytey:

@EVH just restore to an apple ipsw, this will take you back, you can also use BootNeuter to restore the baseband

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:00 pytey

1:01

ericasadun:

pytey, tell us about the main features of ipwning. What can you do with this tool? You've mentioned boot neutering and ipsw installation. What else does it do?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:01 ericasadun

1:02

pytey:

Erica, just like the dude stood up from Kleiner Perkins and offered money for this plaform, we think that the iPhone is the new C64, the process will allow developers to do what _they_ want on _their_ device. The possibilities are endless.

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:02 pytey

1:03

[Comment From ericeric: ]

are the past firmwares rolled up in this app or is that something the user acquires?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:03 eric

1:04

pytey:

Boot Neutering is sorta like pwning the baseband, it allows developers to do what they want with it, lots of features, of course one of those features is unlocking.

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:04 pytey

1:05

[Comment From 4761947619: ]

Does jailbraking the iPhone technicallt break the EULA?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:05 47619

1:05

pytey:

@Eric NO! We don't ship anything that isn't ours!

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:05 pytey

1:05

pytey:

@47619 I don't know, where are you, who did you agree with? I'm not a lawyer

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:05 pytey

1:05

[Comment From AxelAxel: ]

you don't advise on how to restore. What does it mean? is that so complicated that it is better to not bother?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:05 Axel

1:06

ericasadun:

I supect restoring is as simple as iTunes + alt-restore. pytey?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:06 ericasadun

1:06

pytey:

@Axel put the phone in the dock and restore with iTunes, simple as that

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:06 pytey

1:06

[Comment From colincolin: ]

does the ipwner tool allow me to make an "image" of my iphone that I can restore at a later time, sort of like cloning a hard drive for backup purposes?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:06 colin

1:06

pytey:

@colin not yet.

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:06 pytey

1:07

[Comment From EdgarEdgar: ]

Once the Ipod/Iphone has been PWN'd, is it necessary to jailbreak still to install installer.app and get all of the currently available software, or is there another way of accessing these programs?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:07 Edgar

1:07

pytey:

@Edgar no, you'll make an.ipsw with all your bits and bobs inside, you just need to know where to put them ;) watch this space

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:07 pytey

1:08

ericasadun:

If you'd like to download a copy of pwnage, visit http://iphone-dev.org/

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:08 ericasadun

1:08

ericasadun:

Wiki is here: http://wikee.iphwn.org/

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:08 ericasadun

1:08

[Comment From JBJB: ]

will it make me coffee? :P I'm not sure that the general summary was clear enough to some people

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:08 JB

1:08

[Comment From Fred_Fred_: ]

pytey: You are da bomb ;-)

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:08 Fred_

1:09

pytey:

@Fred_ thanks ;)

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:09 pytey

1:09

NerveGas:

Howdy howdy

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:09 NerveGas

1:10

ericasadun:

I want to welcome NerveGas

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:10 ericasadun

1:10

ericasadun:

For those of you who don't know him, he's both an iPhone dev team member as well as the author of the open SDK book from O'Reilly

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:10 ericasadun

1:10

NerveGas:

sup pytey. I heard you were giving away all our best secrets

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:10 NerveGas

1:10

ericasadun:

(Full disclosure: O'Reilly is my "other" home)

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:10 ericasadun

1:11

pytey:

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:11 pytey

1:11

[Comment From snookiesnookie: ]

Major thank you to all the devs. that worked on this.

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:11 snookie

1:11

[Comment From iConiCiConiC: ]

OMG it's NerveGas!

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:11 iConiC

1:11

[Comment From PicardPicard: ]

Nice work people. Keep it up! :D

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:11 Picard

1:11

[Comment From JoriskeJoriske: ]

What will we be able to do wih custom firmware? What are the advantages?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:11 Joriske

1:12

pytey:

@joriske lots!

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:12 pytey

1:12

ericasadun:

Installing pre-jailbroken firmware is going to be a biggie, isn't it guys?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:12 ericasadun

1:12

pytey:

erica: No it isn't

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:12 pytey

1:13

pytey:

The tool will patch current firmware bundles today to offer this functionality

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:13 pytey

1:14

ericasadun:

No? tell me more.

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:14 ericasadun

1:14

NerveGas:

WRT what pytey's say, the idea isn't to set up a black market for jailbroken firmware... the idea is to let users (finally) have an easy process by which they can jailbreak without dancing around all sorts of upgrades/downgrades and other tricks

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:14 NerveGas

1:14

[Comment From Matt GMatt G: ]

If you have the 2.0 software update, do you first have to neuter the bootloader with a 1.1.4 firmware, THEN make the custom 2.0 ipsw?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:14 Matt G

1:15

pytey:

@Matt G yes.

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:15 pytey

1:15

[Comment From ZibriZibri: ]

Will you release source code so Zibri can rip you off and make ZiPwned Tool? (and how do I change the nickname on this thing)

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:15 Zibri

1:16

[Comment From JustEatonJustEaton: ]

Hey pytey, NerveGas. So how long has this iPwnage tool been in development? Have you been working on it previous to other jailbreak methods, or was this started when tougher firmwares came along, and Apple announced the SDK?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:16 JustEaton

1:17

pytey:

@Zibri non capisco

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:17 pytey

1:18

NerveGas:

Well if someone's going to rip it off, it might as well be Zibri - he's by far an expert in that field :)

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:18 NerveGas

1:18

[Comment From MehMeh: ]

Will this cause any problems on IPSF unlocked phones?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:18 Meh

1:19

pytey:

@Meh No, but why are you using commercial apps anyhow ;) trust in the DevTeam!

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:19 pytey

1:19

ericasadun:

Can the bootneuter un-IPSF the phone?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:19 ericasadun

1:20

[Comment From Jake MillerJake Miller: ]

Just want to say I appreciate all the hard work you guys put into this.

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:20 Jake Miller

1:20

[Comment From Absent-oneAbsent-one: ]

For us at&t people who do not need the unlock - Just the jailbreak. Is there an advantage for us to restore and use PWN if we already did JB with ziphone or liberty?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:20 Absent-one

1:21

pytey:

@Absent-one you need to research this and choose, it allows custom firmware which is a big step. You don't _have_ to use the bootneuter

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:21 pytey

1:21

NerveGas:

Meh, as long as you don't upgrade the boot loader, you shouldn't have a problem

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:21 NerveGas

1:21

pytey:

erica: regarding the IPSF, can pies make cakes?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:21 pytey

1:22

pytey:

;)

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:22 pytey

1:22

ericasadun:

That is a metaphor I am compeltely unfamiliar with

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:22 ericasadun

1:22

NerveGas:

it means, can i has a bucket

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:22 NerveGas

1:22

[Comment From jwjw: ]

I'm so proud of you boys! ;)

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:22 jw

1:22

pytey:

Seriously, with some patches I'm sure this can be added, if there is a demand we'll get the boffins onto it.

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:22 pytey

1:22

NerveGas:

Anyway... @Absent-one... there are some great tools out there, you should take a look at them all as they all serve different niches.

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:22 NerveGas

1:22

[Comment From Chris MChris M: ]

Once the new 3rd party iPhone apps come out... and I obtain one... would I be able to use this tool to ensure that it's put on my iPhone instead of using the iTunes store?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:22 Chris M

1:23

NerveGas:

iLiberty is easy enough for grandma to use... and is what i generally recommend beginners

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:23 NerveGas

1:23

ericasadun:

I use iLiberty--so point proven

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:23 ericasadun

1:23

NerveGas:

Pwnage is ideal for advanced users who want to really customize... and ZiPhone is good for people whose names are Zibree and need to impress girls.

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:23 NerveGas

1:23

[Comment From LangdonLangdon: ]

Will Pwnage allow us to use unsigned applcations with Firmare 2.0 (e.g., applications that Apple said that they will not allow)?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:23 Langdon

1:24

ericasadun:

I'm not sure that unsigned apps have anything to do with unsigned firmware. What do you say guys?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:24 ericasadun

1:25

NerveGas:

To use unsigned applications with firmware 2.0, the only thing that's needed is a patch to the SpringBoard, which will likely be worked into future jailbreaks. SpringBoard patches are not uncommon, and earlier versions of 1.1 required similar work.

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:25 NerveGas

1:25

NerveGas:

That may already be in pwnage, but if it's not, it will be in future versions.

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:25 NerveGas

1:25

NerveGas:

2.0 has a watchdog inside SpringBoard that kills "unauthorized" applications

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:25 NerveGas

1:26

pytey:

BTW, We are sorry about the press release on April the 1st, we had some fun with that one. :-)

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:26 pytey

1:26

ericasadun:

Some readers have asked about 2.0 activation. Does pwnage do 2.0 activation past that reported "pink screen of doom"?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:26 ericasadun

1:26

NerveGas:

Not a difficult patch. I believe Niacin coded that one up in about 2 minutes

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:26 NerveGas

1:27

NerveGas:

Yes, pwnage hacktivates 2.0

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:27 NerveGas

1:27

NerveGas:

pytey: why is our 'toon steve speaking russian? or whatever language that is?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:27 NerveGas

1:28

[Comment From DaveDave: ]

Why does iTunes store and App Store not show up in 2.0 once activated?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:28 Dave

1:28

pytey:

Yes, that is russian and it is a play on the popular surprise bear "Preved"

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:28 pytey

1:28

pytey:

Preved medved! Preved! Kagdila krosavchegi?!

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:28 pytey

1:29

ericasadun:

It's a russian meme

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:29 ericasadun

1:29

NerveGas:

dah. spaciba.

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:29 NerveGas

1:29

ericasadun:

One of our readers really wants to know if pwnage works with double-booting

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:29 ericasadun

1:29

[Comment From kkdoolkkdool: ]

in Layman's terms, is there any way Apple can block Pwnage withour a new bootloader? or even with a new bootloader? what willl apple have to do to block Pwnage? PS great job guys!!

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:29 kkdool

1:30

NerveGas:

No, as it blows away the NOR when you restore... but you can always re-partition to set up a dual boot later on.

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:30 NerveGas

1:30

ericasadun:

NerveGas: Can you pwnage to update or only to restore?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:30 ericasadun

1:31

NerveGas:

hmm good question. if you can get iTunes to give you an update prompt that may be possible. but you'd have to convince itunes that there was a new version available for download, or hex-edit it :)

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:31 NerveGas

1:32

ericasadun:

We only have about 15 more minutes available on this liveblog, so if you have questions, please get them in.

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:32 ericasadun

1:33

ericasadun:

Why would a developer with 2.0 access want o pwn his phone? What are some reasons?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:33 ericasadun

1:33

[Comment From MJMJ: ]

Does it work on iPod Touch too?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:33 MJ

1:33

NerveGas:

the boot pineapple is way cooler than other fruit

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:33 NerveGas

1:33

pytey:

MJ: yes, it works on the touch

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:33 pytey

1:33

ericasadun:

Boot pineapple ftw. Any other reasons?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:33 ericasadun

1:34

pytey:

erica: I guess it is up to the individual developer

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:34 pytey

1:34

ericasadun:

One of our readers wants to know if ipsws pwned on the mac will load on Windows

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:34 ericasadun

1:34

pytey:

Yes, they will.

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:34 pytey

1:35

pytey:

But of course, do it between your own machines.

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:35 pytey

1:35

ericasadun:

Any ETA for the linux ipsw?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:35 ericasadun

1:35

NerveGas:

ipsw = zip file... lots of platforms support those these days

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:35 NerveGas

1:35

pytey:

erica: work in progress, nothing as yet

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:35 pytey

1:36

NerveGas:

the problem is you need iTunes to install them

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:36 NerveGas

1:36

NerveGas:

but if you're talking about linux on the iphone (e.g. a linux firmware) that's coming :)

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:36 NerveGas

1:37

ericasadun:

Any reports yet of of pwned 2.0 users using custom (unsigned) SDK software yet?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:37 ericasadun

1:37

pytey:

MrIron has a good question

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:37 pytey

1:37

NerveGas:

yes, one of the first unsigned apps run on 2.0 was nes.app :)

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:37 NerveGas

1:37

pytey:

We'll be pushing out updates to the tool, and constantly adding to the features, "fancy" ipsw building will be there soon.

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:37 pytey

1:38

pytey:

The tool automatically checks for updates on start using sparkle, so we'll alert the users to new releases, automagically

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:38 pytey

1:39

ericasadun:

I must apologize. This CoverItLive interface has brought my poor G4 to its knees. So it's actually quicker for me to type in questions that click their submissions!

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:39 ericasadun

1:39

[Comment From AronTAronT: ]

What kind of fancy ipsw building are we talking here? Logo replacement and auto-installing 3rd party apps, or more than that? BTW, you guys rock - it's been a pleasure following along for the last 9-10 months!

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:39 AronT

1:40

NerveGas:

sysctl -w hw.cpus=4

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:40 NerveGas

1:40

drudge:

Moooo

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:40 drudge

1:40

NerveGas:

zomg drudge!

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:40 NerveGas

1:40

pytey:

@AronT fancy fancy, watch this space

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:40 pytey

1:40

NerveGas:

[steelopanic] how do i use the sdk for windows

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:40 NerveGas

1:40

ericasadun:

Welcome drudge!

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:40 ericasadun

1:41

drudge:

Note to self: Cover it live needs safari support :(

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:41 drudge

1:41

NerveGas:

steelopanic: you can't... but you can use the open source tool chain to buildunsigned applications for 2.0

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:41 NerveGas

1:41

TUAW:

Drudge -- They're working on it. :-)

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:41 TUAW

1:42

ericasadun:

Hopefully this works better

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:42 ericasadun

1:42

ericasadun:

I've actually switched to another Mac

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:42 ericasadun

1:42

ericasadun:

Guys, do you have the ability to spend a little more time with our readers?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:42 ericasadun

1:42

[Comment From iPhoneMaticiPhoneMatic: ]

Also TUAW Is Great !

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:42 iPhoneMatic

1:42

pytey:

yeah, sure. we love them!

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:42 pytey

1:43

ericasadun:

Thanks iPhoneMatic

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:43 ericasadun

1:43

NerveGas:

drudge just got here, so he could spend at least a half hour stroking his ego

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:43 NerveGas

1:43

NerveGas:

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:43 NerveGas

1:43

[Comment From killakilla: ]

where are the ipsw files found?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:43 killa

1:44

[Comment From prodigy60prodigy60: ]

for those of us that are a bit more involved, will there be any "how to" docs on creating/customizing images? apparently lzss compression is involved, which isnt a very widely used format..?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:44 prodigy60

1:44

drudge:

Nice one NerveGas. killa, ipsw files are not provided by the dev team.

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:44 drudge

1:44

NerveGas:

On MAC OSX, ~/Library/iTunes/iPhone Software Updates after they are downloaded via iTunes

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:44 NerveGas

1:44

ericasadun:

Guys, can you talk about how ipwning works in general terms?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:44 ericasadun

1:46

[Comment From jbonejbone: ]

Does iPwnage put that boot logo in by default? (Sorry, maybe this has been asked but everytime I try to read the backlog it auto jumps back down to the current comments)

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:46 jbone

1:47

ericasadun:

Are you guys still with us?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:47 ericasadun

1:47

ericasadun:

Drudge, NerveGas, Pytey, give me a ping

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:47 ericasadun

1:47

[Comment From burtornrob40burtornrob40: ]

keep the hacks coming, great job guys!

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:47 burtornrob40

1:48

NerveGas:

erica: iPwner basically modifies the device to ignore integrity checks, allowing you to install an unsigned firmware package

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:48 NerveGas

1:48

pytey:

erica, sorry, the window refreshed lots then, some issues here I think

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:48 pytey

1:48

ericasadun:

Welcome to the joy that is cover it live. ;)

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:48 ericasadun

1:48

ericasadun:

(Although Lisa has used Cover It Live before, this is my first attempt)

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:48 ericasadun

1:48

[Comment From burtornrob40burtornrob40: ]

what's the unsigned firmware package consist of NerveGas?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:48 burtornrob40

1:49

NerveGas:

the unsigned package is basically Apple's firmware update (which you downloaded via iTunes) along with some additional tools, such as the installer app, boot neuter application, and any additional mods you want to add in

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:49 NerveGas

1:49

[Comment From tomtom: ]

please, open up an IRC channel, this is rediculous

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:49 tom

1:49

ericasadun:

Tom, you're always welcome to come visit irc.osx86.hu

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:49 ericasadun

1:50

pytey:

we've opened a channel for this

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:50 pytey

1:51

ericasadun:

TUAW wants to thank Pytey, NerveGas and Drudge for coming over to answer reader questions.

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:51 ericasadun

1:51

ericasadun:

Thanks to everyone for being so patient with the CoverItLive issues

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:51 ericasadun

1:51

pytey:

#iphone.interview on irc network irc.osx86.hu

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:51 pytey

1:51

ericasadun:

Thanks also to Mike Rose for helping set this up

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:51 ericasadun

1:52

ericasadun:

If you have any further questions about ipwnage, you can visit iphone-dev.org

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:52 ericasadun

1:52

ericasadun:

Scroll down the page to find the link to the wiki

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:52 ericasadun

1:53

ericasadun:

Pytey, NG, Drudge: any last comments?

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:53 ericasadun

1:53

pytey:

Watch this space! :)

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:53 pytey

1:53

ericasadun:

#iphone.interview on irc.osx86.hu for more PWNAGE info

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:53 ericasadun

1:53

NerveGas:

stay in school. don't use drugs. stop warezing 2.0 dangit!

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:53 NerveGas

1:53

pytey:

Erica, thanks for the opportunity to chat to your readers

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:53 pytey

1:54

ericasadun:

If you liked this live chat, let our producers know. Drop a line at http://tuaw.com/tips

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:54 ericasadun

1:54

ericasadun:

Thank you everyone again for participating in our live chat

Thursday April 3, 2008 1:54 ericasadun

1:55

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