Post-election live chat with Susan Nielsen and David Sarasohn
10:48
The Oregonian: 
Welcome to our post-election chat with members of the editorial board. David and Susan will join us at noon. You can go ahead and submit questions and comments in advance. Once we start, there will be a delay between the submission of your question/comment and its appearance in the chat.
Wednesday November 7, 2012 10:48 The Oregonian
10:53
The Oregonian: 
Sorry, they will join us at 11 -- my mistake.
Wednesday November 7, 2012 10:53 The Oregonian
11:00
Susan Nielsen: 
Hi folks, Susan here. Thanks for joining us.
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:00 Susan Nielsen
11:00
[Comment From atmcashatmcash: ] 
Kitzhaber has seemed to indicate that tax reform (sales tax?) is a top priority for him, but without super-majorities in both the house as senate, seems improbable. PERS reform is the other huge issue, any reason for optimism?
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:00 atmcash
11:02
Susan Nielsen: 
Well, there is always a reason for optimism, especially the day after an election. I have doubts about the odds of anyone embracing a sales tax in Oregon....
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:02 Susan Nielsen
11:02
Susan Nielsen: 
... but I'd certainly say that one of the main jobs of lawmakers is to deal with the rising cost of PERS ....
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:02 Susan Nielsen
11:03
Susan Nielsen: 
...as well as the inadequacy of funding for K-12 schools and higher education.
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:03 Susan Nielsen
11:03
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
Does The Oregonian editorial board favor the strong mayor proposal Potter put forward? Or does it believe the mayor is a strong enough position as is to get big things done?
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:03 Guest
11:04
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
Is the legislature going to take care of business, or take this opportunity to ram through partisan legislation while they have the chance, things like gun control, etc?
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:04 Guest
11:04
Susan Nielsen: 
Well, the Potter proposal is dead and gone, so we don't need to take it up right now. I do think Portland's form of governance works when the City Council has enough smart, thoughtful members.
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:04 Susan Nielsen
11:04
David Sarasohn: 
Dems have a majority, bu8t not a supermajority, limiting what they can do. Also, Kitzhaber is watching
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:04 David Sarasohn
11:04
[Comment From tomtom: ] 
Good post election morning,..Anything in Oregon or National elections that surprised you?
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:04 tom
11:05
Susan Nielsen: 
I was surprised by how handily the Portland arts tax passed.....
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:05 Susan Nielsen
11:05
Susan Nielsen: 
I was also surprised that Romney didn't capture more swing states.
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:05 Susan Nielsen
11:05
David Sarasohn: 
I was surprised by how many seats Ds gained in leg...
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:05 David Sarasohn
11:05
[Comment From tomtom: ] 
In hindsight do you wish you would have made a editorial endorsement for President?
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:05 tom
11:06
Susan Nielsen: 
Hindsight is always a dangerous drug that should be avoided at all costs!
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:06 Susan Nielsen
11:06
David Sarasohn: 
No, we made our feelings clear, and the election seemed to go on fine without our endorsing.
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:06 David Sarasohn
11:06
[Comment From LEXXLEXX: ] 
With such a strong support of measure 80 in Multnomah county without any money advertising this measure don't you think it is time to ask our cities leaders to take the first steps towards recreating this plants place in agri-business? Relaxing the laws to establish places to socially gather to purchase and consume Cannabis is only one of the ways we can start to create jobs and income for our under employed county. Those chronically unemployed can find jobs that they actually enjoy and show up for work at every day. What are your thoughts on this new frontier?
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:06 LEXX
11:07
Susan Nielsen: 
I think the votes in Washington and Colorado make it clear that public sentiment -- at least in some Western states -- is shifting somewhat on marijuana....
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:07 Susan Nielsen
11:07
[Comment From atmcashatmcash: ] 
Has there been any reaction from Allen Alley about the sad state of affairs of the Republican party in Oregon?
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:07 atmcash
11:07
David Sarasohn: 
Allen Alley on TV last night seemed stunned and befuddled by the outcome. Rs need to rethink where they are in the state
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:07 David Sarasohn
11:08
[Comment From Gerry LGerry L: ] 
What are the odds that Congress or Justice Dept will look at how elections are conducted around the country to make sure all Americans have an equal right to vote?
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:08 Gerry L
11:09
[Comment From tomtom: ] 
Yours polls were off by thinking Oregon was going more Republican..What happened?
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:09 tom
11:09
Susan Nielsen: 
This is a good question, Gerry....I think every election, any time there are problems with voting or ballot counting -- whether in Clackamas County or in other state -- it underscores the importance of a voting system that has integrity and credibility. We've got some work to do on that front.
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:09 Susan Nielsen
11:09
David Sarasohn: 
I always figure Ds will do a little better than polling, due to strength lf Oregon Ds GOTV effort
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:09 David Sarasohn
11:09
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
We're lucky multnomah county is so close to washington... maybe portland should build some more bridges to vancouver
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:09 Guest
11:10
[Comment From tomtom: ] 
Do you think the Oregon legislature will take on the marijuana issue with WA passing and will the Editorial board push for that?
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:10 tom
11:10
Susan Nielsen: 
We might need a 20-lane bridge once the Wash pot measure is in place!
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:10 Susan Nielsen
11:10
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
What is the one thing Hales should do above all else? And more important, how should he go about doing it?
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:10 Guest
11:10
David Sarasohn: 
Washington is now open for gay marriage and pot, as well as fireworks
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:10 David Sarasohn
11:11
Susan Nielsen: 
We laid out some of our top goals for Mayor-elect Hales in an editorial today -- namely, public safety, job creation, basic city services and general leadership. I'm curious -- what do *you* see as his top priority?
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:11 Susan Nielsen
11:11
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
Will Hales have a honeymoon as mayor? Does he have the trust of the business community? Of the police rank and file? Of city council? Or will he need to prove himself?
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:11 Guest
11:12
Susan Nielsen: 
Politicians don't get honeymoons anymore, it seems. The news cycle moves too fast and people are very eager for change and results.
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:12 Susan Nielsen
11:12
David Sarasohn: 
I think he should do well, no campaign bitterness. Some continu8ing Council members seem unhappy with his plan to take all bureaus for three months
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:12 David Sarasohn
11:13
[Comment From tomtom: ] 
New Hampshire voted in first all women DC delegation and women Gov..Why don't more women in Oregon run for the top jobs?..And will we see this change?
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:13 tom
11:13
[Comment From elvis63elvis63: ] 
I live in Clackamas County and as a business owner with employees that live in the county I am concerned that the elections of the Tea Party funded Ludlow and Smith will hurt the county as a whole. Is there a possibility these short-sighted commissioners will successfully shut down the infrastructure improvements being made in Milwaukie with light rail, and push for more cul-de-sacs rather than business?
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:13 elvis63
11:14
Susan Nielsen: 
We've got Ellen Rosenblum as attorney general and Kate Brown as secretary of state and Tina Kotek in a leadership role in the Legislature. We've also got two women on the Oregon Supreme Court (and maybe three, if Nena Cook wins). Things aren't perfect, but they are changing.
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:14 Susan Nielsen
11:14
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
Hales has told so many things to so many people - hard to imagine how they don't all collide at some point. Seems he set the right tone in terms of more results and less drama. But how that translates into more efficient services, innovation, tackling entrenched powers....hard to see
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:14 Guest
11:14
David Sarasohn: 
I think light rail is on rails, so to speak, and will happen. Later disagreements likelty to come up. Some of the Clack problems are with the state land use laws, which may also give them problems
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:14 David Sarasohn
11:15
[Comment From LEXXLEXX: ] 
The amount of money that does not add income to our economy from Cannabis has eclipsed the National gross domestic product, isn't it time the Oregonian push to bring that money back into the hands of the people with consentual taxes paid on Prime Oregon Cannabis?
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:15 LEXX
11:15
Susan Nielsen: 
One other thought on the woman question: I don't think being a woman is necessarily much of a liability or an asset any more, like it used to be in politics. That's progress, I think.
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:15 Susan Nielsen
11:15
[Comment From tomtom: ] 
What do you think will happen in Congress with time running out on automatic cuts..Will Tea Party House budge?..
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:15 tom
11:15
David Sarasohn: 
I think Oregon will address the pot issue, although I don't see it fixing all our economic issues. Maybe we'll worry about them less...
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:15 David Sarasohn
11:16
[Comment From atmcashatmcash: ] 
Follow-up, for as competent as Allen Alley is, he really is hamstrung by the ultra right wing segment of the party at a precinct and county level. Any reason to believe that the party can even have the hard conversations that are necessary if they hope to be a factor in state races again?
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:16 atmcash
11:17
David Sarasohn: 
I think the prospect of everyone's taxes going up, and huge cuts including the Pentagon, will cause Congress to move. It won't be easy
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:17 David Sarasohn
11:17
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
What do you think changed for Oregon citizens with this election?
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:17 Guest
11:18
Susan Nielsen: 
IATM cash -- I think it's a mistake for Rs to write off voters in Multnomah County. Chris Dudley, for example, could have won if he had spent more time sharing his positive, fairly moderate message in MC and Washco. ...
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:18 Susan Nielsen
11:18
David Sarasohn: 
1) Ds won Legislature, which will make some things move.

2) Rejection of many statewide money issues. MAybe people are getting more open to overall tax reconsideration
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:18 David Sarasohn
11:18
Susan Nielsen: 
... I also wonder why Bruce Starr ran such an unenthusiastic campaign for labor commissioner when he could have won, banking on his legislative record and name familiarity in Washco.
Wednesday November 7, 2012 11:18 Susan Nielsen
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