Thursday September 27, 2012
9:15 |  Andy Hoag@SNAndyHoag  The jury is in the courtroom, and here we go. Thursday September 27, 2012 9:15 SNAndyHoag |
9:16 | First witness is Barry Nelson, who is the deputy director of Saginaw County 911. Thursday September 27, 2012 9:16 SNAndyHoag |
9:17 | Nelson almost always is the person from county 911 who testifies when the prosecution needs to introduce 911 calls or radio traffic. Thursday September 27, 2012 9:17 SNAndyHoag |
9:19 | We finally have a live video feed of testimony. Here's the link: mlive.com/news/saginaw/i… Thursday September 27, 2012 9:19 SNAndyHoag |
9:20 | Nelson is explaining how Central Dispatch monitors officers on the road. Thursday September 27, 2012 9:20 SNAndyHoag |
9:21 | Nelson's testimony should get us to the point where we hear the radio checks and other alarms seeking Bluew's response. Thursday September 27, 2012 9:21 SNAndyHoag |
9:24 | Nelson: Asked to review radio traffic for Bluew, Sylvester, Patterson. Thursday September 27, 2012 9:24 SNAndyHoag |
9:24 | RT @nessarae33: @SNAndyHoag hope u had your breakfast =) Thursday September 27, 2012 9:24 SNAndyHoag |
9:24 | @nessarae33 Sure did! I don't usually but this week, I had to. Thursday September 27, 2012 9:24 SNAndyHoag |
9:29 | Nelson: Radio checks for Bluew, Sylvester done at 8 p.m., both responded. Next at 9:02 p.m., both responded. Thursday September 27, 2012 9:29 SNAndyHoag |
9:30 | Nelson: Next radio check at 10:28 p.m. Sylvester answered, Bluew did not. Thursday September 27, 2012 9:30 SNAndyHoag |
9:30 | @SNAndyHoag Andy is this live from yesterday or now as in live now ? Thursday September 27, 2012 9:30 Micah92269051 |
9:30 | @Micah92269051 Now. Same w/ video. Thursday September 27, 2012 9:30 SNAndyHoag |
9:31 | Nelson: Between 9:02 and 10:28, no communication w/ Bluew. Thursday September 27, 2012 9:31 SNAndyHoag |
9:33 | Nelson: Sylvester tried to contact Bluew by phone, Patterson advises Dispatch at 10:33 p.m. that Sylvester couldn't reach Bluew. Thursday September 27, 2012 9:33 SNAndyHoag |
9:33 | Nelson: At 10:35 p.m., Bluew answers radio. Thursday September 27, 2012 9:33 SNAndyHoag |
9:33 | Nelson holds up a CD of the radio traffic from that night: pic.twitter.com/Ki2GpKit  Thursday September 27, 2012 9:33 SNAndyHoag |
9:38 | Nelson: Bluew did not call in a "premises check" around 9 p.m., time David Sian saw BVPD car on Freeway Lane. Thursday September 27, 2012 9:38 SNAndyHoag |
9:38 | Bluew enters the courtroom: pic.twitter.com/QjiGFxbr  Thursday September 27, 2012 9:38 SNAndyHoag |
9:43 | Nelson: At 12:29 a.m., Sylvester radioed possible suspect in B&E on S. 25th. Patterson radios that Bluew would respond to assist. Thursday September 27, 2012 9:43 SNAndyHoag |
9:44 | A close up of a "In Memory" bracelet worn by somebody in the gallery: pic.twitter.com/iQlNj4Jo  Thursday September 27, 2012 9:44 SNAndyHoag |
9:47 | CD of radio traffic admitted into evidence. Has certain relevant radio traffic. Luckily, it's not of nearly 3 hours of continuous traffic. Thursday September 27, 2012 9:47 SNAndyHoag |
9:47 | And we're going to hear the audio of the radio checks. Thursday September 27, 2012 9:47 SNAndyHoag |
9:54 | And that actually was the radio checks plus all the traffic around the time of finding Webb's body and the rest of the shift. Thursday September 27, 2012 9:54 SNAndyHoag |
9:54 | RT @KatieLyn14: @SNAndyHoag Assuming Bluew is "604" Thursday September 27, 2012 9:54 SNAndyHoag |
9:54 | @KatieLyn14 That's correct. Thursday September 27, 2012 9:54 SNAndyHoag |
9:56 | RT @nichol0715: @SNAndyHoag can you hear bluew do his call at 10 something does his voice sound different: windy panting etc? Thursday September 27, 2012 9:56 SNAndyHoag |
9:57 | @nichol0715 He did sound like he was out of breath, but it's impossible to tell if it was just because his mouth was close to his mic. Thursday September 27, 2012 9:57 SNAndyHoag |
9:57 | O'Farrell on cross now, asking about Dispatch operating procedures. Thursday September 27, 2012 9:57 SNAndyHoag |
9:58 | Nelson: If officer out of car or sound turned down, could miss radio check. Audio alarm also dependent on sound of radio. Thursday September 27, 2012 9:58 SNAndyHoag |
9:59 | Devil's advocate here would be to say, well, he said he was on the "admin" channel, so the volume level is irrelevant. But ... Thursday September 27, 2012 9:59 SNAndyHoag |
10:01 | O'Farrell could counter that by saying Bluew lied about being on "admin" and was just sleeping. Guilty of a lie but not murder, basically. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:01 SNAndyHoag |
10:03 | @skaren24 @SNAndyHoag but weren't they able to triangulate his position at the time? He was in the area Thursday September 27, 2012 10:03 skaren24 |
10:04 | @skaren24 That I'm not sure of. If it's been mentioned in the past, I don't remember it. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:04 SNAndyHoag |
10:06 | @skaren24 If it is mentioned later in the trial, I'll be sure to give you props :) Thursday September 27, 2012 10:06 SNAndyHoag |
10:07 | Nelson: Lack of response to radio checks not a daily occurrence, "but it does happen." Thursday September 27, 2012 10:07 SNAndyHoag |
10:09 | Nelson: Automatic vehicle locators added after June 10. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:09 SNAndyHoag |
10:12 | Nelson's summary of that day's activities admitted into evidence, at O'Farrell's request. Stroud "stipulated" to its admission, or ... Thursday September 27, 2012 10:12 SNAndyHoag |
10:13 | ... agreed without question to admitting it into evidence. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:13 SNAndyHoag |
10:13 | RT @nichol0715: @SNAndyHoag thinking out loud on why any cop would do that if the purpose is for checking their safety Thursday September 27, 2012 10:13 SNAndyHoag |
10:14 | @nichol0715 If the officer wanted to sleep, as Patterson testified Bluew had done in the past, then there's one reason. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:14 SNAndyHoag |
10:16 | Nelson answering questions from O'Farrell: pic.twitter.com/JtOSiEDi  Thursday September 27, 2012 10:16 SNAndyHoag |
10:17 | No further questions. Next witness: BVPD's Sean Waterman, now acting chief, was sergeant at time. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:17 SNAndyHoag |
10:17 | Waterman's been hanging around the courthouse since Tuesday afternoon waiting to testify. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:17 SNAndyHoag |
10:19 | Waterman: Called by Patterson reference possible suicide. Told him to tape off scene, take pictures. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:19 SNAndyHoag |
10:20 | Waterman: When arrived on scene, Patterson, Bluew, Sylvester already there. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:20 SNAndyHoag |
10:25 | Thomas and Waterman going through the pictures of the scene, which Bluew took. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:25 SNAndyHoag |
10:27 | Waterman testifies about the scene: pic.twitter.com/oVnOLEKz  Thursday September 27, 2012 10:27 SNAndyHoag |
10:27 | @SNAndyHoag Silly question , Is the jury to the left of the live video ? Thursday September 27, 2012 10:27 Micah92269051 |
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10:29 | Waterman: Looked at pictures on the camera, then walked around the scene himself, including checking on Webb. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:29 SNAndyHoag |
10:31 | Waterman: Read the suicide note. Bluew had not told him he knew Webb. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:31 SNAndyHoag |
10:33 | Waterman: With Patterson's help, examined Webb's phone. Saw three calls, 2 from Webb to Bluew, 1 from Bluew to Webb. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:33 SNAndyHoag |
10:33 | Waterman: Recognized Bluew's phone number, and the phone listed contact as "Ken Cop Boo" Thursday September 27, 2012 10:33 SNAndyHoag |
10:35 | Waterman: Time of calls: 8:28 p, Webb to Bluew, 57 seconds; 8:43 p, Webb to Bluew, 37 seconds; 8:48 p, Bluew to Webb, 58 seconds. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:35 SNAndyHoag |
10:36 | Waterman: Asked Bluew why there was phone calls between them. Said he's known her for number of years, met her at a bar in BV. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:36 SNAndyHoag |
10:37 | Waterman: Bluew said he had talked to her, called her that night to "check on her." Thursday September 27, 2012 10:37 SNAndyHoag |
10:38 | Waterman: Suicide note mentioned recent burglaries at Webb's home in Saginaw. Had Bluew check police reports for those. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:38 SNAndyHoag |
10:40 | RT @cbear1128: @SNAndyHoag the video is good but sound is hard to hear. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:40 SNAndyHoag |
10:42 | @cbear1128 I know it. It's the best we can do from that distance, unfortunately. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:42 SNAndyHoag |
10:42 | RT @Micah92269051: @SNAndyHoag I wondering why bluew isn't in handcuffs and the regular orange suite ? Thursday September 27, 2012 10:42 SNAndyHoag |
10:43 | @Micah92269051 During a trial, in front of a jury, they aren't in their orange jumpsuits to avoid the appearance of being a criminal. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:43 SNAndyHoag |
10:43 | Waterman: After Sylvester and Bluew left for B&E, Patterson told Waterman he felt Bluew was acting nervous about situation. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:43 SNAndyHoag |
10:44 | RT @malanie810: @SNAndyHoag silly question but did they ever say why he was there in the first place? Did someone call in a suspicious v ... Thursday September 27, 2012 10:44 SNAndyHoag |
10:45 | @malanie810 Patterson said yesterday that Bluew told him he had just got there moments before Patterson did. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:45 SNAndyHoag |
10:45 | Waterman: "light colored" bruises on Webb's inner upper arms. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:45 SNAndyHoag |
10:47 | Waterman: Didn't know at time if bruises were significant. Too dark to determine freshness of bruises. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:47 SNAndyHoag |
10:48 | Waterman and Thomas discuss a picture from the scene: pic.twitter.com/L8Bvs8Vj  Thursday September 27, 2012 10:48 SNAndyHoag |
10:48 | RT @cbear1128: @SNAndyHoag you guys are doing great. I boosted the sound signal through an amp. Thank you. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:48 SNAndyHoag |
10:49 | @cbear1128 Good to hear. Thanks. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:49 SNAndyHoag |
10:49 | Waterman: Suicide note states she was "depressed" about the pregnancy, that she was "unsure" of who the father was. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:49 SNAndyHoag |
10:51 | @Micah92269051 There's a very capable deputy to his right, and two more deputies in the back. Generally, when the verdict is read ... Thursday September 27, 2012 10:51 SNAndyHoag |
10:51 | @Micah92269051 ... there are more deputies present. Have been some verdicts in recent months where upwards of 10+ deputies present. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:51 SNAndyHoag |
10:51 | @SNAndyHoag is it possible to watch the broadcast later. Is it being recorded? Thursday September 27, 2012 10:51 Apsey2006 |
10:52 | @Apsey2006 it should be available on the MLive post that I linked to. Might have another post later with it. It will be possible for sure. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:52 SNAndyHoag |
10:53 | Waterman discussing some events that took place as they continued to treat death as a suicide. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:53 SNAndyHoag |
10:54 | Waterman: Went to Webb's parents' home in Bridgeport Township. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:54 SNAndyHoag |
10:55 | Thomas asks Waterman what he did what he got there. Waterman takes a moment to compose himself before answering. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:55 SNAndyHoag |
10:56 | Waterman: It was about 1 a.m., Donald Webb answered door, got his wife. "I had to tell them we found their daughter at Hack and Outer..." Thursday September 27, 2012 10:56 SNAndyHoag |
10:56 | ... and that she was deceased and that it appeared she had hung herself." Thursday September 27, 2012 10:56 SNAndyHoag |
10:56 | @SNAndyHoag They said the note was "typed". I'm wondering was it actually typed on a typewriter or "printed" from a computer. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:56 darmaelias |
10:57 | Waterman: "Mr. Webb just looked at me and said, 'No way ... it wasn't possible.' " Thursday September 27, 2012 10:57 SNAndyHoag |
10:57 | @darmaelias It was typed from a computer. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:57 SNAndyHoag |
10:57 | Waterman: Asked them if they knew who father of baby was. They said Ken Bluew. He asked if they know who he was. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:57 SNAndyHoag |
10:58 | Waterman: They said, "Yes, he's one of your officers." Thomas asks what he did next. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:58 SNAndyHoag |
10:58 | Waterman: "I had to sit down because I became sick to my stomach." Thursday September 27, 2012 10:58 SNAndyHoag |
10:58 | Waterman: Parents said they learned that Webb was going to meet Bluew that night to discuss Friend of the Court matters. Thursday September 27, 2012 10:58 SNAndyHoag |
11:00 | Waterman: Wanted to see what her bedroom looked like. Thursday September 27, 2012 11:00 SNAndyHoag |
11:00 | Waterman: Asked parents if she was depressed about pregnancy. Told she was "excited," only concern was being single mother. Thursday September 27, 2012 11:00 SNAndyHoag |
11:01 | Waterman: They went to her bedroom: crib, baby clothes, baby supplies, "how to" books. Thursday September 27, 2012 11:01 SNAndyHoag |
11:01 | Waterman: "To me, looking at this, this was somebody who was ready and prepared to mother a child." Thursday September 27, 2012 11:01 SNAndyHoag |
11:06 | Waterman: "I realized at that point that there was more to this scene than I initially assumed." Thursday September 27, 2012 11:06 SNAndyHoag |
11:07 | Waterman: "I believed Officer Bluew had something more to do with" the death, told parents they next would be talking w/ MSP. Thursday September 27, 2012 11:07 SNAndyHoag |
11:07 | Waterman: Left house, "Got in my car, sat there, and tried to put it all together." Drove way, called then-Chief Booker. Thursday September 27, 2012 11:07 SNAndyHoag |
11:08 | Waterman: Told Booker about going to scene, that he now suspected it could be a homicide. "Things were not looking good ... Thursday September 27, 2012 11:08 SNAndyHoag |
11:09 | ... they were looking very, very suspicious." Recommended to call MSP to investigate. Thursday September 27, 2012 11:09 SNAndyHoag |
11:11 | Waterman emotional on the witness stand: pic.twitter.com/icYAYpBF  Thursday September 27, 2012 11:11 SNAndyHoag |
11:11 | One more picture: pic.twitter.com/bkKDTbJE  Thursday September 27, 2012 11:11 SNAndyHoag |
11:12 | Waterman: Eventually went back to scene to secure it, make sure that Wastewater Treatment employees didn't drive through. Thursday September 27, 2012 11:12 SNAndyHoag |
11:16 | RT @Micah92269051: @SNAndyHoag Jennifer's printer was broken at that time and there not mentioning it ! Thursday September 27, 2012 11:16 SNAndyHoag |
11:17 | @Micah92269051 I don't think that's something Sgt. Waterman can testify to. He did say that the parents said she didn't have a computer. Thursday September 27, 2012 11:17 SNAndyHoag |
11:18 | RT @nichol0715: @SNAndyHoag is Jenny's dr coming in as a witness wouldn't she have more input saying Jenny was happy and excited NOT dep ... Thursday September 27, 2012 11:18 SNAndyHoag |
11:18 | @nichol0715 Doesn't look like Webb's doctor is listed as one of the 21 witnesses prosecutors intend to call, but ... Thursday September 27, 2012 11:18 SNAndyHoag |
11:19 | @nichol0715 ... that is something that her parents are to testify about. Thursday September 27, 2012 11:19 SNAndyHoag |
11:21 | Waterman: Bluew showed back up at scene, in civilian clothes after his shift was done, in the morning while the crime lab was out there. Thursday September 27, 2012 11:21 SNAndyHoag |
11:21 | Waterman: Bluew talked with Booker. Thursday September 27, 2012 11:21 SNAndyHoag |
11:24 | Waterman confirms talking with Patterson in Waterman's office, doors closed. Told Patterson what he learned at Webb's parents' home. Thursday September 27, 2012 11:24 SNAndyHoag |
11:29 | Waterman: Saw Bluew come out of locker room, in civilian clothes, carrying laundry bag. Saw him walk toward back door w/ bag. Thursday September 27, 2012 11:29 SNAndyHoag |
11:31 | After about 70 minutes, Thomas is done questioning Waterman. Before O'Farrell has a chance to start cross, Jackson calls for a recess. Thursday September 27, 2012 11:31 SNAndyHoag |
11:32 | Jackson asked to see the attorneys in his chambers. Wondering if he'll call for an early lunch and have O'Farrell begin his cross at 1:30. Thursday September 27, 2012 11:32 SNAndyHoag |
11:41 | @Micah92269051 @SNAndyHoag did they even check her computer to see if there was a note created on it? What about Bluew's? Thursday September 27, 2012 11:41 MiaKuli |
11:42 | @MiaKuli @Micah92269051 I'm not sure if a computer belonging to Webb was examined. Her parents told Waterman she didn't have one. Thursday September 27, 2012 11:42 SNAndyHoag |
11:42 | @MiaKuli @Micah92269051 As for Bluew, they did examine his computer at home. Stroud mentioned some evidence that came from it but didn't ... Thursday September 27, 2012 11:42 SNAndyHoag |
11:43 | RT @flab2fabmom: @SNAndyHoag what percentage of suicide notes are really typed & printed? Seems strange. Thursday September 27, 2012 11:43 SNAndyHoag |
11:43 | @flab2fabmom This is a point to prosecutor will be making, I'd think. Thursday September 27, 2012 11:43 SNAndyHoag |
11:47 | RT @jpstone_: @SNAndyHoag just curious, has Kennys ex-wife been in the courtroom at all? Thursday September 27, 2012 11:47 SNAndyHoag |
11:48 | @jpstone_ To be honest, I don't know what she looks like. Bluew has had about 10 family members here through the trial. Thursday September 27, 2012 11:48 SNAndyHoag |
11:48 | RT @skaren24: @MiaKuli @Micah92269051 @SNAndyHoag didn't MSP take computers from BVPD? Could he have written it there? Thursday September 27, 2012 11:48 SNAndyHoag |
11:49 | Thursday September 27, 2012 11:49 SNAndyHoag |
11:49 | And we're back. O'Farrell will do 15 minutes worth of cross. Thursday September 27, 2012 11:49 SNAndyHoag |
11:50 | @jpstone_ @SNAndyHoag I think her name is on the roster of potential people to testify Thursday September 27, 2012 11:50 skaren24 |
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Thursday September 27, 2012 11:52 Andy Hoag |
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Thursday September 27, 2012 11:53 Andy Hoag |
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Thursday September 27, 2012 11:54 Andy Hoag |
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Thursday September 27, 2012 11:55 Andy Hoag |
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Thursday September 27, 2012 11:56 Andy Hoag |
12:22 | Sorry folks, got put in #twitterjail for the last 10 minutes. Y'all didn't miss anything. Waterman to come back at 1:30. Thursday September 27, 2012 12:22 SNAndyHoag |
1:23 | Here's my noon recap: mlive.com/news/saginaw/i… Thursday September 27, 2012 1:23 SNAndyHoag |
1:37 | @SNAndyHoag u r doing a great job I'm even watch your tweets while I'm in the court room u deserve a big raise :) Thursday September 27, 2012 1:37 kizziem34 |
1:37 | @kizziem34 ha thanks! I'll forward that on to my bosses :) Thursday September 27, 2012 1:37 SNAndyHoag |
1:41 | @SNAndyHoag. Can you post a new link to live video? Only getting recorded? Thursday September 27, 2012 1:41 dorymsbs |
1:42 | @dorymsbs We're using the same post as this morning. Will be live once jury is seated. Hopefully soon, as Bluew just entered the courtroom. Thursday September 27, 2012 1:42 SNAndyHoag |
1:43 | Link for live video, which will be live as soon as jury is seated: mlive.com/news/saginaw/i… Thursday September 27, 2012 1:43 SNAndyHoag |
1:43 | @SNAndyHoag Man your fingers gotta be tired ! Lol Thursday September 27, 2012 1:43 Micah92269051 |
1:43 | @Micah92269051 ha, I'm using my laptop for this trial, so not as bad as if I was using my phone. Learned my lesson finally. Thursday September 27, 2012 1:43 SNAndyHoag |
1:45 | Jury is in, judge is here, and here comes Waterman to resume his testimony. O'Farrell on cross-exam. Thursday September 27, 2012 1:45 SNAndyHoag |
1:47 | Waterman: After viewing pictures, inspected area where Webb's body was himself. As others have said, cord was taut. Thursday September 27, 2012 1:47 SNAndyHoag |
1:48 | Waterman: Made observation to try to figure out time of death. At extremity level, rigor mortis had not set in. Feet starting to purple. Thursday September 27, 2012 1:48 SNAndyHoag |
1:50 | Waterman: His police report states she was cold to the touch. Thursday September 27, 2012 1:50 SNAndyHoag |
1:51 | Waterman: Blood coming from her nose, little bit of blood from nose to lip. Blood not flowing. Thursday September 27, 2012 1:51 SNAndyHoag |
1:52 | O'Farrell asking about Webb's body position, clothes position. Waterman: "possibly" consistent with her sliding down ditch. Thursday September 27, 2012 1:52 SNAndyHoag |
1:52 | Waterman: These factors had contributed to him, at that point, treating it as suicide. Thursday September 27, 2012 1:52 SNAndyHoag |
1:54 | Waterman: Didn't notice the nervousness that Patterson/Sylvester spoke of, did notice that every time he went to talk with someone ... Thursday September 27, 2012 1:54 SNAndyHoag |
1:55 | ... that Bluew would be right there. Didn't think anything of it at that time. Thursday September 27, 2012 1:55 SNAndyHoag |
1:55 | @SNAndyHoag these calls were made the same day the body was found remind me what time was the car found? Thursday September 27, 2012 1:55 McMullenMegan |
1:55 | @McMullenMegan Just before 11 p.m., about two hours after they exchanged those three calls. Thursday September 27, 2012 1:55 SNAndyHoag |
1:57 | Waterman: Marks on her neck consistent with ligature, the cord being tight around her neck. Thursday September 27, 2012 1:57 SNAndyHoag |
1:58 | Ligature marks are common in strangulation deaths, whether they be homicide or suicide. Thursday September 27, 2012 1:58 SNAndyHoag |
1:58 | RT @McMullenMegan: @SNAndyHoag were the calls made during the time bluew was unreachable by dispatch? Thursday September 27, 2012 1:58 SNAndyHoag |
2:00 | @McMullenMegan Good question. The last call was 14 minutes before Bluew responded to a 9:02 p.m. radio check. Thursday September 27, 2012 2:00 SNAndyHoag |
2:01 | O'Farrell focusing on difference between how police treat homicide scenes vs. suicide scenes. Thursday September 27, 2012 2:01 SNAndyHoag |
2:03 | O'Farrell: Preservation of this scene less strenuous than homicide scenes? Waterman: "Probably." Thursday September 27, 2012 2:03 SNAndyHoag |
2:05 | Waterman's report states bruises did not look fresh. He says today that was based on poor lighting at the scene. Thursday September 27, 2012 2:05 SNAndyHoag |
2:07 | Waterman answers a question from O'Farrell: pic.twitter.com/0hStTVHm  Thursday September 27, 2012 2:07 SNAndyHoag |
2:11 | O'Farrell asking Waterman about when the Aztek was towed away. Waterman doesn't remember telling driver not to touch anything. Thursday September 27, 2012 2:11 SNAndyHoag |
2:13 | Waterman: At time of tow, didn't see reason for MSP crime lab to inspect vehicle. Otherwise, would have had it towed to MSP garage. Thursday September 27, 2012 2:13 SNAndyHoag |
2:15 | Towing company is Gobeyn's in Bridgeport. Waterman doesn't know when Aztek would have been taken to MSP garage. Thursday September 27, 2012 2:15 SNAndyHoag |
2:19 | O'Farrell with detail-based questions about officers' daily reports. Now asking about Webb's phone. Thursday September 27, 2012 2:19 SNAndyHoag |
2:20 | Waterman: No way to know what, if anything, was said during three calls. Didn't see any text messages, but no familiar with phone. Thursday September 27, 2012 2:20 SNAndyHoag |
2:21 | O'Farrell is done. Re-direct from Thomas. Thursday September 27, 2012 2:21 SNAndyHoag |
2:22 | Waterman: BVPD policy would have been for Bluew to log "property check" that Sian saw BVPD car perform at 9 p.m. on Freeway Lane. Thursday September 27, 2012 2:22 SNAndyHoag |
2:24 | Waterman: "Most definitely" would have called Booker to have MSP come if he knew at scene about Bluew fathering baby. Thursday September 27, 2012 2:24 SNAndyHoag |
2:24 | RT @taralynn1030: @SNAndyHoag who is expected to testify next? Thursday September 27, 2012 2:24 SNAndyHoag |
2:25 | @taralynn1030 Good question. No word. I'm expecting Webb's parents to be testifying soon. Thursday September 27, 2012 2:25 SNAndyHoag |
2:25 | RT @jencielma: @SNAndyHoag If he was calling "to check on her" seems one call would have been sufficient. And it probably would've been ... Thursday September 27, 2012 2:25 SNAndyHoag |
2:26 | @jencielma Also, according to Waterman, Webb placed the first two calls, then Bluew called back. Thursday September 27, 2012 2:26 SNAndyHoag |
2:26 | RT @nichol0715: @SNAndyHoag what is bluew's plea ...i know there are tons of things ppl can plea is he standing by that is is innocent Thursday September 27, 2012 2:26 SNAndyHoag |
2:27 | @nichol0715 He has pleaded not guilty since the beginning, which is standard here in Saginaw County felony cases until there's a plea deal. Thursday September 27, 2012 2:27 SNAndyHoag |
2:27 | Waterman: Didn't notice anything physically unusual about Bluew. Thursday September 27, 2012 2:27 SNAndyHoag |
2:30 | Waterman: Told by MSP D/Sgt. Ogg to password protect the Webb case on ARMS. Thursday September 27, 2012 2:30 SNAndyHoag |
2:31 | Waterman is done testifying. Attorneys approach the bench. Thursday September 27, 2012 2:31 SNAndyHoag |
2:32 | Jackson has about 6-7 sentencings he has to handle at 2:30, so we are taking a break. Probably for a half-hour or so. Thursday September 27, 2012 2:32 SNAndyHoag |
2:42 | @bhilkka My lunch was very healthy, trust me Thursday September 27, 2012 2:42 SNAndyHoag |
2:42 | @SNAndyHoag In other news Doug Fister just set an AL record for 9 consecutive strike outs. #Tigers Thursday September 27, 2012 2:42 jencielma |
2:43 | @SNAndyHoag can u please post the link again as soon as it begins again? Thank you. You are doing a great job :) Thursday September 27, 2012 2:43 angelatyndall |
2:43 | .@angelatyndall Thank you. The link for my tweets and the link for the video won't change. Thursday September 27, 2012 2:43 SNAndyHoag |
2:43 | @SNAndyHoag so what your saying is in Saginaw county you have to pled not guilty in all felony cases unless there's a plea deal? Thursday September 27, 2012 2:43 lisam52582 |
2:43 | @lisam52582 Not exactly. I was trying to keep my response brief. In Saginaw County, and could be Michigan and the U.S. for all I know... Thursday September 27, 2012 2:43 SNAndyHoag |
2:44 | @lisam52582 Defendants charged with felonies usually have not guilty pleas entered for them at their arraignment. This is usually because... Thursday September 27, 2012 2:44 SNAndyHoag |
2:44 | @lisam52582 ... they don't have an attorney yet, and if they enter a guilty plea and then realize they shouldn't have, they ... Thursday September 27, 2012 2:44 SNAndyHoag |
2:45 | @lisam52582 ... could appeal based on the fact that they didn't have an attorney. So, until a plea deal is reached or ... Thursday September 27, 2012 2:45 SNAndyHoag |
2:45 | @lisam52582 ... the defendant pleads as charged or there is a trial, the not guilty plea stays. Thursday September 27, 2012 2:45 SNAndyHoag |
2:47 | RT @SusanneMackley: @SNAndyHoag I've heard that Jenny's boss is scheduled to testify, along with a computer from her workplace Thursday September 27, 2012 2:47 SNAndyHoag |
2:48 | @SusanneMackley Is her boss Brandi Richards? That's the only name from the 21 "expected" witnesses I don't know. Thursday September 27, 2012 2:48 SNAndyHoag |
2:53 | @SNAndyHoag. Brandi Richards works at PF Markey is what I meant. Thursday September 27, 2012 2:53 dorymsbs |
2:54 | .@dorymsbs well, there we go. I feel like I Googled her name last week when I wrote the article but didn't know Webb worked there, too. Thursday September 27, 2012 2:54 SNAndyHoag |
3:03 | @SNAndyHoag @dorymsbs can you refer to her as Jenny? Webb sounds so impersonal! Thursday September 27, 2012 3:03 taralynn1030 |
3:05 | .@taralynn1030 I understand your point, but doing so also is objective. If I called her Jenny, that would give off a sympathetic tone. Thursday September 27, 2012 3:05 SNAndyHoag |
3:09 | RT @mschian1: @SNAndyHoag Do we know if there was DNA testing on the fetus? Or has Bluew openly admitted to being the father? Thursday September 27, 2012 3:09 SNAndyHoag |
3:10 | @mschian1 This is a quote from my former co-worker Gus Burns, who live tweeted from part of Bluew's preliminary hearing: Thursday September 27, 2012 3:10 SNAndyHoag |
3:10 | @mschian1 "Results of DNA testing of fetus and Bluew were 'consistent that he was the father.' " Thursday September 27, 2012 3:10 SNAndyHoag |
3:34 | RT @TrayDei: @SNAndyHoag can the ppl please refrain from asking so many questions .! He keeps going over his tweet limit Thursday September 27, 2012 3:34 SNAndyHoag |
3:34 | @TrayDei lol! it's only happened twice now, come on! And once was only for 10 minutes. I'll be good. Thursday September 27, 2012 3:34 SNAndyHoag |
3:40 | And we're back. Next witness is Dr. Jaclyn Robinson, Webb's OB doctor. Thursday September 27, 2012 3:40 SNAndyHoag |
3:40 | RT @nancymerrow2: @SNAndyHoag Andy, was Waterman emotional over his testimony because it was such a horrible death or because it was a ... Thursday September 27, 2012 3:40 SNAndyHoag |
3:41 | @nancymerrow2 more the experience of telling the Webbs about the death of their daughter and finding out about Bluew fathering the baby. Thursday September 27, 2012 3:41 SNAndyHoag |
3:42 | Robinson: When Webb first came to her, roughly 18-20 weeks along and "very healthy." Thursday September 27, 2012 3:42 SNAndyHoag |
3:45 | Robinson: Nothing out of the ordinary w/ Webb's attitude/demeanor. No suicidal or depression tendencies. Thursday September 27, 2012 3:45 SNAndyHoag |
3:47 | Robinson: At last visit, Webb weighed 246 lbs. Hate to put a woman's weight out there, but it's important to both sides' theories. Thursday September 27, 2012 3:47 SNAndyHoag |
3:50 | O'Farrell up. Before she was pregnant, diagnosed with high blood pressure. Could take meds while pregnant. Thursday September 27, 2012 3:50 SNAndyHoag |
3:51 | Robinson: Webb didn't complain about having to miss work due to high blood pressure or any other reasons. Thursday September 27, 2012 3:51 SNAndyHoag |
3:54 | O'Farrell shows Robinson a report from July 14 in which Webb's blood pressure was higher than usual. Stress from house broken into blamed. Thursday September 27, 2012 3:54 SNAndyHoag |
3:56 | Robinson: In May initial visit, said father was Ken, that he was aware of it, but his involvement had yet to be determined. Thursday September 27, 2012 3:56 SNAndyHoag |
3:57 | Robinson: "Jennifer was not anxious. She was easy going and excited about the pregnancy." Thursday September 27, 2012 3:57 SNAndyHoag |
4:02 | Robinson is done. Next witness is Brandi Richards, "manager and good friend" of Webb. Worked at PF Markey together. Thursday September 27, 2012 4:02 SNAndyHoag |
4:03 | Richards: "Fabulous employee," customers loved her, made co-workers laugh. Thursday September 27, 2012 4:03 SNAndyHoag |
4:03 | Richards: Webb had been there about a year. "Very satisfied" with Webb's work. Thursday September 27, 2012 4:03 SNAndyHoag |
4:04 | Richards: Webb said she "never dreaded" waking up for work in the morning. O'Farrell objects as hearsay, Jackson sustains objection. Thursday September 27, 2012 4:04 SNAndyHoag |
4:05 | Thomas thought statement was in line with those Jackson decided to allow in July, but that was more for Waterman and parents' testimony. Thursday September 27, 2012 4:05 SNAndyHoag |
4:07 | Richards: Saw "just the opposite" of Webb being depressed or suicidal. Was "very happy to be a mother," talked about pregnancy w/ her. Thursday September 27, 2012 4:07 SNAndyHoag |
4:08 | Richards describes her as a "strong" person. Not in physical sense, obviously. Thursday September 27, 2012 4:08 SNAndyHoag |
4:10 | Richards: Webb told her Bluew was father. She knew beforehand that it was a BVPD officer, cuz Webb told her she was having ... Thursday September 27, 2012 4:10 SNAndyHoag |
4:11 | ...a relationship with a BVPD officer. O'Farrell again objects on hearsay, Jackson sustains. O'Farrell asks it be stricken and Jackson ... Thursday September 27, 2012 4:11 SNAndyHoag |
4:12 | ... tells jury to disregard. Thomas asks another hearsay question, O'Farrell objects, Thomas thinks it is within scope of Jackson's ruling. Thursday September 27, 2012 4:12 SNAndyHoag |
4:12 | Before Thomas can argue why it is within scope, O'Farrell asks that the matter be handled outside the jury's presence before Thomas ... Thursday September 27, 2012 4:12 SNAndyHoag |
4:14 | ... gives a "speech." Now, outside of jury, Thomas says this is about Webb's intents and statements and not about whether Bluew knew. Thursday September 27, 2012 4:14 SNAndyHoag |
4:14 | The second hearsay question was about whether Webb intended to seek child support, and Jackson says that is within scope. Thursday September 27, 2012 4:14 SNAndyHoag |
4:16 | O'Farrell is concerned about the witness' response, but judge says question was proper and narrow enough for witness to respond w/in scope. Thursday September 27, 2012 4:16 SNAndyHoag |
4:19 | Richards: Webb showed her two text messages conversations regarding child support. Thursday September 27, 2012 4:19 SNAndyHoag |
4:19 | Richards: Initial plan was off the record payments, but that changed, and she decided to go through Friend of the Court, name him as father. Thursday September 27, 2012 4:19 SNAndyHoag |
4:20 | @SNAndyHoag I am really sorry for using 1 of your tweets but is the jury sequestered like Jenny's parents have been? Thursday September 27, 2012 4:20 Apsey2006 |
4:20 | @Apsey2006 Not sure what you mean. Do you mean while that recent argument was going on? Thursday September 27, 2012 4:20 SNAndyHoag |
4:21 | Richards: Webb used PF Markey computer for personal use, as all employees were allowed to do on lunch and/or breaks. Thursday September 27, 2012 4:21 SNAndyHoag |
4:24 | Richards: Involved in allowing Webb to "bank" hours for later payments. Thursday September 27, 2012 4:24 SNAndyHoag |
4:24 | @SNAndyHoag if all this on the internet and twitter in jury has been sequestered to prevent them from going home and reading it? Thursday September 27, 2012 4:24 Apsey2006 |
4:24 | @Apsey2006 Ah. The judge's order to the jury always is to not read or watch media reports. Thursday September 27, 2012 4:24 SNAndyHoag |
4:25 | O'Farrell up now. Thursday September 27, 2012 4:25 SNAndyHoag |
4:26 | Richards: "Banking hours" system was because there was no maternity leave. Thursday September 27, 2012 4:26 SNAndyHoag |
4:30 | And we're breaking for the day. I'll chat with y'all at 9 a.m tomorrow. Thursday September 27, 2012 4:30 SNAndyHoag |
4:31 | Richards finished her testimony prior to breaking. Thursday September 27, 2012 4:31 SNAndyHoag |
4:32 | As usual, I'll be closing the MLive chat window now. Any questions/comments, please post them in comments on MLive or tweet at me. Thursday September 27, 2012 4:32 SNAndyHoag |
4:35 | RT @jessacastillo: @SNAndyHoag do you know if there will be live footage tomorrow Thursday September 27, 2012 4:35 SNAndyHoag |
4:35 | @jessacastillo That's our intention, yes. I'll know for sure in the morning. Thursday September 27, 2012 4:35 SNAndyHoag |
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