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Live chat with Chris Simpson

Tuesday June 26, 2012

4:30

Brian Wheeler:

Good afternoon. Aaron Aupperlee and I are taking part in a live chat this afternoon with Chris Simpson, who we wrote about recently. Chris has an amazing story to tell!

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:30 Brian Wheeler

4:31

Brian Wheeler:

We hope to answer questions from you over the next hour. Fire away, and we'll get to as many as we can.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:31 Brian Wheeler

4:34

[Comment From Aaron AupperleeAaron Aupperlee: ]

Hi Chris. I'll start it off. You told me Random Acts of Christ has really taken off. What has RAC done and what do you plan to do? How can people get involved?

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:34 Aaron Aupperlee

4:35

Chris Simpson:

We help whomever we can find in need. This incorporates anyone that may be in need. We have helped the homeless by providing food, clothing, bus tickets and just our time. Random Acts of Christ is a group that we started with the understanding that no act is done unless Christ allows it.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:35 Chris Simpson

4:36

Chris Simpson:

If you would like to find us, you can reach us at http://www.facebook.com/Randomactsofchrist

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:36 Chris Simpson

4:39

Chris Simpson:

With Random Acts of Christ we incorporate all races rather than only the "white" race. I know that many of you may think that I will come off as preachy, but I am not. These are merely the things that I have gone through since my change. I did help others in my past, but I was incorporating "whites only". Now I get out there and help everyone that I can.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:39 Chris Simpson

4:39

[Comment From CJ PlainCJ Plain: ]

Hello all

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:39 CJ Plain

4:39

[Comment From Brian WheelerBrian Wheeler: ]

Tell us about the tattoos! You have 42: When you decided to get words such as "White Pride" put into your arm, what were you thinking?

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:39 Brian Wheeler

4:40

Chris Simpson:

Hey there CJ. How are you today?

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:40 Chris Simpson

4:41

Chris Simpson:

At first it was just a crazed vision and I wanted my ink to scream to everyone that I hated them. I wanted people to be mad because I was suffering.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:41 Chris Simpson

4:41

[Comment From Misty SimpsonMisty Simpson: ]

I finally made it in.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:41 Misty Simpson

4:42

Chris Simpson:

After a while, they became "badges of honor" among other groups. It showed the lengths to which you would go to prove yourself.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:42 Chris Simpson

4:42

[Comment From Faith CushmanFaith Cushman: ]

I would like to ask Chris to explain the "democracy" inside the White Nationalist movement for those who don't understand how it works. I feel it is important for people to know how it works before they truly come to understand what you left behind, and the possable threat of danger you and your family could have faced.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:42 Faith Cushman

4:44

Chris Simpson:

For those that don't know, when you join up with any form of "White Nationalist" groups, you are revered as the next best thing. They hold you on a pedestal until you can no longer provide what they want you to do. Once this happens, you become a federal informant or mudscrapper or race traitor and are casted out.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:44 Chris Simpson

4:46

Chris Simpson:

I was labeled as a Federal Informant. Many believe what we did was staged. And the cost that comes with outing yourself, could be detrimental to your life and your families life. They will attack those that were apart of that life but they are cowards against anyone that stands against them.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:46 Chris Simpson

4:46

[Comment From Aaron AupperleeAaron Aupperlee: ]

Hi Misty.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:46 Aaron Aupperlee

4:46

[Comment From CJ PlainCJ Plain: ]

The threat is VERY real for the people that do not understand.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:46 CJ Plain

4:47

[Comment From Brian WheelerBrian Wheeler: ]

Did you feel any actual threat of personal danger by leaving?

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:47 Brian Wheeler

4:47

[Comment From Aaron AupperleeAaron Aupperlee: ]

Have you had threats since telling your story? What has the response been among the "White Nationalist" groups?

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:47 Aaron Aupperlee

4:48

Chris Simpson:

No, I do not feel threatened. As a matter of fact, the only way I see any retaliation is through cyber fights. Hiding behind the computer screen seems to be the MO. This is where they grab the attention of the vulnerable.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:48 Chris Simpson

4:50

Chris Simpson:

No threats yet. The response has been typical. It was said that I was never a part of the movement anyway since I came out. had I had another March, that since of realism would have been different. I would have been cheered and applauded.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:50 Chris Simpson

4:50

[Comment From ChrisChris: ]

Was this a process or was there a specific moment or event that inspired you to reconsider your views?

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:50 Chris

4:53

Chris Simpson:

It was right after our annual Yule/Christmas drive for B14. We were completely depleted of funds from sending out over $1400 worth of items to needy children and the Commander of the group got real defensive when we said we had to build funds back up. Almost as if he was angry that the funds went out and we didn't have any more. Then he made a comment about me spending to much time with my family.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:53 Chris Simpson

4:54

Chris Simpson:

All of this led to what Ronnie Noocha said and became a realization for me. "All that hate you carry isn't hurting anybody but you". "Yeah, you may make someone angry, but at the end of the day, they have let it go and it is only killing you".

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:54 Chris Simpson

4:54

[Comment From Misty SimpsonMisty Simpson: ]

Hi Aaron

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:54 Misty Simpson

4:54

[Comment From Aaron AupperleeAaron Aupperlee: ]

For the record, no part of the story was staged. Chris and I first exchanged emails when he organized the white pride march in 2010. At the beginning of the year, he emailed me again saying he had changed. We spent hours together over the next few months. Chris spent most of the time answering my questions.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:54 Aaron Aupperlee

4:55

[Comment From Sweet LouSweet Lou: ]

At what age did you start to have these racists feelings?

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:55 Sweet Lou

4:57

Chris Simpson:

27. It was right after the death of my 1st daughter. I was becoming full of anger and hatred because I lost a child. I wanted others to feel that anger and hatred. Then I started watching through foggy lens' what I thought was reverse racism. Non whites were being treated better than we were and that was what ended up feeding my anger and hatred.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:57 Chris Simpson

4:57

[Comment From Brian WheelerBrian Wheeler: ]

You led a white pride march that started in Jackson's Loomis Park in March 2010. What do you remember most from that day? Are you still in touch with others who marched with you that day?

Tuesday June 26, 2012 4:57 Brian Wheeler

5:00

Chris Simpson:

I will answer the 2nd part first. No, I do not keep up with any of those people. All I remember was what I initially knew. We went to anger people whether it was White Pride or not. We wanted o be quiet so that the news showed the real racists. We were taunted, called racists, honkies, crackers among many others. It never came across that we were the one's that were not being racist.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:00 Chris Simpson

5:00

Chris Simpson:

Across in the news is what I mean.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:00 Chris Simpson

5:01

Chris Simpson:

Any media attention that White Pride groups get only grows their strength.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:01 Chris Simpson

5:01

[Comment From DebbyDebby: ]

Just a quick comment, your story was so inspiring.....thank you. God is so good! I just cant express how I feel but was truly blessed by this story......God bless you and your family

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:01 Debby

5:03

Chris Simpson:

Thank You Debbie. I am hoping that it will inspire more people and help them to see that hatred does nothing more than kill themselves from within. They can say that it is for the preservation of this and that, but there was so much infighting anyways, they will eventually kill themselves off unless they open their eyes.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:03 Chris Simpson

5:03

[Comment From Faith CushmanFaith Cushman: ]

Chris I think it would be wonderful for you to be a counselor/mentor of some sort to the youth who are thinking of joining these groups! Just sayin...

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:03 Faith Cushman

5:03

[Comment From Brian WheelerBrian Wheeler: ]

But the march centered on white pride. Does that seem like that was racist in itself?

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:03 Brian Wheeler

5:05

Chris Simpson:

The march was initially set up to say that we were proud to be white but we knew that that was going to be considered racist. We wanted to know why it was okay for blacks, mexicans, even gays to have marches and people line the sides of the streets in support, but when someone white does it, it was considered racist. So if we were going to be viewed as such, we wanted everyone to be angry on National Harmony Day.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:05 Chris Simpson

5:06

[Comment From BenBen: ]

Do you have any plans to speak with your past associates in the future? Or is that too much?

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:06 Ben

5:07

Chris Simpson:

No, I will have no contact with them unless they have come out of the "movement". I have moved on and hope that they can to. If they want support in getting out, that would be the only way I would speak with them.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:07 Chris Simpson

5:07

[Comment From DaveDave: ]

Chris, can the public at large afford to simply ignore these White Pride groups? Or are they a real threat in terms of gaining numbers and momentum?

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:07 Dave

5:09

Chris Simpson:

They are a threat through cyberspace. That is where they will be gaining their numbers. All youth are on the web and this is a inevitable meeting place for anyone that is angry or has had something happen in their lives that causes them to lose focus of life. Their thinking becomes clouded and they tend to view things as making sense when they have evil whispering into their ears.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:09 Chris Simpson

5:09

Chris Simpson:

I don't really see it becoming a public threat because they know that they need their numbers. They don't want any of them in prison.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:09 Chris Simpson

5:10

[Comment From Aaron AupperleeAaron Aupperlee: ]

I think part of what shocked people about the march was the fact that it took place here in Jackson. How prevalent are hate groups in Jackson? Do you think people would be surprised at the amount of white supremacists in the area?

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:10 Aaron Aupperlee

5:11

Chris Simpson:

We were the only hate group here in Jackson. The others that came with us were from Grand Rapids.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:11 Chris Simpson

5:11

[Comment From BobBob: ]

How come you wanted to get out of it

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:11 Bob

5:12

Chris Simpson:

I grew up. I realized that my children's future was at stake. My actions were going to be their outcome and I know that my children need me. I am their father, I will raise them properly and with compassion and sympathy for others. It is a trait that America has lost. I lost it. I let it turn to anger.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:12 Chris Simpson

5:12

Chris Simpson:

I didn't want them to end up killed for my actions.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:12 Chris Simpson

5:12

[Comment From Brian WheelerBrian Wheeler: ]

You went through some trauma and adversity in your life, in particular the death of a child. I think it's understandable that your reaction might be extreme. But why white pride? Was there some experiencein your life that led you to channel your anger at racial or ethnic minorities?

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:12 Brian Wheeler

5:16

Chris Simpson:

I was working in Danville, Va for an asphalt crew and there was a diverse group on that crew. One day, I hid one of the employees "gatorade" which was meant for the crew. It was a joke but escalated into something more severe. He ended up choking me while at work and when I notified the supervisor, he merely got a slap on the wrist. This started it. I noticed later on that the same employee threw another new employee in the air and caused him to dislocate his arm. Again, he received a slap on the wrist. This was where I first noticed preferentionial treatment of blacks or non-whites over whites.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:16 Chris Simpson

5:16

[Comment From CJ PlainCJ Plain: ]

The real threat is what has been labeled as "Lone Wolfs."

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:16 CJ Plain

5:16

[Comment From Faith CushmanFaith Cushman: ]

If you could say one thing to someone thinking of leaveing the movement behind what advice would you give them on it. Steps to take and not to take?

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:16 Faith Cushman

5:19

Chris Simpson:

If you want your life, take it and make it yours. These groups are leeches and will suck the money, happiness and life completely out of you. Then once that is done, they will kick you to the side as if you never existed. Go don't look back. Put it out there that you have left because it takes a coward to go quietly, but someone with Honor to announce it to the world that we live in today. Be who God made you to be and someone filled with hate is not that person. You went down this path for a reason. So that you could come out the other side with a story to tell and to be able to steer people away. Save lives and step up.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:19 Chris Simpson

5:19

[Comment From Mollie BMollie B: ]

Hey Chris! Just a comment from a friend; your family has ignited hope for many people seeing such a dramatic and positive change. Thank you for being who you are and living transparent to be a light to others.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:19 Mollie B

5:20

[Comment From Aaron AupperleeAaron Aupperlee: ]

CJ or Chris, could you explain what a "Lone Wolf" is?

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:20 Aaron Aupperlee

5:21

Chris Simpson:

Mollie, thank you so much. I am hoping that this will open the eyes of those still in looking for a way out and those that are considering getting in. Becoming involved in hatred and anger, even though they call it love for their own, will do nothing but destroy an individual over time.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:21 Chris Simpson

5:22

Chris Simpson:

A "Lone Wolf" is someone who operates on their own. They belong to no orgs. or groups. They follow no chain of command. They merely take their actions and operate solely as they want to.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:22 Chris Simpson

5:23

[Comment From Brian WheelerBrian Wheeler: ]

Was it merely a coincidence that the incident in Danville, Va., benefitted someone who was a minority? In hindsight, could it have been that any person (white, black or whatever) could benefit from preferential treatment?

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:23 Brian Wheeler

5:24

Chris Simpson:

It could have, but that was not how it was perceived by me.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:24 Chris Simpson

5:24

[Comment From Aaron AupperleeAaron Aupperlee: ]

One comment people have to me about the story is that it sounded like you were making excuses for your beliefs and behavior by talking about how much you helped people while in the movement. You used altruism to mask hate. Can you respond to that?

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:24 Aaron Aupperlee

5:27

Chris Simpson:

No, we tried to change the view that media had of us. After I was in for a while, we were dedicated to making sure that our own were taken care of. We wanted to show that we were not thuggish, drug induced, alcoholics that the media made us out to be. It was about preserving our own race and making sure that it flourished without compromise.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:27 Chris Simpson

5:28

Chris Simpson:

Once your in for a while, you lose that hindsight of hatred towards others and start focusing how you can push your own race ahead. You want to see it prosper and flourish rather than succumb to the media forced opinions of interracial relations, homosexual advancement etc...

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:28 Chris Simpson

5:29

[Comment From CJ PlainCJ Plain: ]

It's a term coined by Tom Metzger for a "single terrorist". Someone who acts alone to commit a racial crime or act.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:29 CJ Plain

5:29

[Comment From CJ PlainCJ Plain: ]

The Virginia Tech shooting would be an example of a Lone Wolf attack

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:29 CJ Plain

5:29

[Comment From Aaron AupperleeAaron Aupperlee: ]

And on a lighter note, Chris, you're a zombie hunter. How worried should we be about recent reports?

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:29 Aaron Aupperlee

5:30

Chris Simpson:

Well, if the government gets ahold of the recipe, very. I think that state governments are handling it the best way they know how, through banning of the products. But, if I see any coming my way, It's lock and load.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:30 Chris Simpson

5:31

[Comment From Mollie BMollie B: ]

Aaron, If anyone making those comments had an opportinity to meet Chris & Misty they would realize that they are 'action' people so believing they were motivated to help people would not seem like an excuse.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:31 Mollie B

5:31

[Comment From Aaron AupperleeAaron Aupperlee: ]

and I'm heading to your place.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:31 Aaron Aupperlee

5:32

Chris Simpson:

Thank you all for having me and if I can help anyone or answer any questions, contact me at our facebook page http://www.facebook.com/Randomactsofchrist or at cjsimpson2014@hotmail.com

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:32 Chris Simpson

5:32

[Comment From CJ PlainCJ Plain: ]

I Second what Mollie B just said

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:32 CJ Plain

5:32

[Comment From Aaron AupperleeAaron Aupperlee: ]

Chris, it has been a pleasure getting to know you and your family. Thank you for sharing your story with us.

Tuesday June 26, 2012 5:32 Aaron Aupperlee

5:32

[Comment From Faith CushmanFaith Cushman: ]

Thank you for your insite!