Friday September 28, 2012
9:18 | Andy Hoag@SNAndyHoag ![]() Let me try that one more time for the MLive followers: Bluew has arrived in court; should be getting started soon. Friday September 28, 2012 9:18 SNAndyHoag |
9:19 | We WILL be having live video again today. I'll post the link to that as soon as testimony begins. Friday September 28, 2012 9:19 SNAndyHoag |
9:21 | Judge here, and O'Farrell has something he wants to place on record w/o jury present. It's about the hearsay statements discussed yesterday. Friday September 28, 2012 9:21 SNAndyHoag |
9:22 | O'Farrell wants ruling in advance to avoid having to object to inadmissible hearsay. Doesn't want to look like he's withholding information. Friday September 28, 2012 9:22 SNAndyHoag |
9:23 | Thomas says he will attempt to guide witnesses along in order to stay in compliance w/ order regarding statements. Friday September 28, 2012 9:23 SNAndyHoag |
9:24 | Judge will allow leeway for Thomas asking leading questions to assure appropriate answers. Friday September 28, 2012 9:24 SNAndyHoag |
9:25 | Jury being brought in. Friday September 28, 2012 9:25 SNAndyHoag |
9:27 | Next witness: James Terry, who owns PF Markey, where Webb worked. Friday September 28, 2012 9:27 SNAndyHoag |
9:27 | Link for live video: mlive.com/news/saginaw/i… Friday September 28, 2012 9:27 SNAndyHoag |
9:29 | RT @smh10srh: @SNAndyHoag just a quick FYI, the people that are by the video camera need to "whisper" a little bit less. We can hear wha ... Friday September 28, 2012 9:29 SNAndyHoag |
9:29 | Terry: Next day, heard about her death and that it was a suicide. He said, "Absolutely not. Not Jenny Webb, not here not now." Friday September 28, 2012 9:29 SNAndyHoag |
9:32 | Judge Jackson listens to O'Farrell's argument from earlier: pic.twitter.com/DRXE5YW5 Friday September 28, 2012 9:32 SNAndyHoag |
9:32 | Thomas asks question regarding Terry offering to help pay for some of Webb's family's expenses. Friday September 28, 2012 9:32 SNAndyHoag |
9:33 | O'Farrell objects on relevancy, Jackson sustains. Friday September 28, 2012 9:33 SNAndyHoag |
9:35 | Terry done. Next witness: Kelly Guilbaux, who went to Delta College w/ Webb in 1997. Remained friends. Friday September 28, 2012 9:35 SNAndyHoag |
9:37 | Guilbaux: Webb told her she was pregnant, that the father was "Ken." Friday September 28, 2012 9:37 SNAndyHoag |
9:38 | Guilbaux: Saw Webb week before her death, had dinner together. Webb told her that she was going to put Bluew's name on birth certificate. Friday September 28, 2012 9:38 SNAndyHoag |
9:38 | Guilbaux: Webb also said she was going to go through Friend of the Court. Friday September 28, 2012 9:38 SNAndyHoag |
9:39 | Guilbaux: "She was ready to have this baby. She was ready to be a mom. ... She was ready to bring him into this world." Friday September 28, 2012 9:39 SNAndyHoag |
9:40 | Guilbaux: Webb did not appear depressed or despondent, didn't say she was having trouble at work. Friday September 28, 2012 9:40 SNAndyHoag |
9:44 | Guilbaux: Sent a text message to Webb the night she died. Sent it about 9 p.m. regarding meeting for maternity photos next day. Friday September 28, 2012 9:44 SNAndyHoag |
9:44 | Guilbaux: Webb replied and said yes. She told Webb to get some rest, she said everybody had been telling her that. Friday September 28, 2012 9:44 SNAndyHoag |
9:46 | Guilbaux done. Next witness is Lisa Martin, who works at Dow Kokam. Friday September 28, 2012 9:46 SNAndyHoag |
9:47 | Martin: Friends with Webb about 10 years. They worked together at a different company. Friday September 28, 2012 9:47 SNAndyHoag |
9:48 | Martin: "Very close friends." Saw her once every two weeks or so, spoke on phone weekly. Also texted each other. Friday September 28, 2012 9:48 SNAndyHoag |
9:49 | Martin: Found out in May that Webb was pregnant. She told her "Ken" was the father. Friday September 28, 2012 9:49 SNAndyHoag |
9:49 | Martin: "She was excited ... doing a lot of planning." Buying books, shopping. "Excited about doctor's appointments," seeing pictures. Friday September 28, 2012 9:49 SNAndyHoag |
9:50 | Martin: Webb would share ultrasound pictures with friends. Was "getting her life in order" cuz she "knew it was going to be a transition." Friday September 28, 2012 9:50 SNAndyHoag |
9:51 | Martin: Webb initially was not going to go for child support, "wanted to see how things panned out." She encouraged Webb to go to ... Friday September 28, 2012 9:51 SNAndyHoag |
9:51 | ... Friend of the Court. Felt it was "irresponsible" for father not to be involved. Last couple weeks of her life, Webb decided ... Friday September 28, 2012 9:51 SNAndyHoag |
9:52 | ... to name him on birth certificate, seek child support. Friday September 28, 2012 9:52 SNAndyHoag |
9:53 | Martin: Spoke with her two days before her death. Asked how things were going, cuz heard her house was broken into again. Friday September 28, 2012 9:53 SNAndyHoag |
9:54 | Martin: House broken into that Saturday. Would have been third time. Webb already was living at parents' home. Friday September 28, 2012 9:54 SNAndyHoag |
9:54 | O'Farrell now up. Funny moment as Martin thought she was all done and tried to get up and leave. Friday September 28, 2012 9:54 SNAndyHoag |
9:57 | Dawn and her husband Donald have not been able to watch the trial, as they have been sequestered. Friday September 28, 2012 9:57 SNAndyHoag |
9:59 | Thomas establishing that Dawn Webb was employed, Donald Webb retired, Jennifer Webb's brother & sister both employed. Friday September 28, 2012 9:59 SNAndyHoag |
10:00 | Now Dawn Webb talking about when Waterman came to home. Said Waterman called, said he was at front door. They let him in. Friday September 28, 2012 10:00 SNAndyHoag |
10:01 | Webb: Waterman told them she was dead. "My daughter may be dead, but she did not commit suicide." Friday September 28, 2012 10:01 SNAndyHoag |
10:01 | As Webb recounts talking with Waterman, numerous family members in gallery can be heard crying. Friday September 28, 2012 10:01 SNAndyHoag |
10:02 | Webb: Both she and husband adamant that their daughter wouldn't have committed suicide. "She was happy." Friday September 28, 2012 10:02 SNAndyHoag |
10:03 | Webb: She told Waterman that Bluew was father, Waterman got "kind of white," said they needed to sit down and talk. Friday September 28, 2012 10:03 SNAndyHoag |
10:04 | Friday September 28, 2012 10:04 SNAndyHoag |
10:05 | Webb: "She had it all ready. She was cramped in that (bed)room, but she had it all ready." Friday September 28, 2012 10:05 SNAndyHoag |
10:06 | Webb: She and husband told their daughter in July it'd be best if she moved to their home. Friday September 28, 2012 10:06 SNAndyHoag |
10:07 | Webb: "She was just very excited about it all." Friday September 28, 2012 10:07 SNAndyHoag |
10:09 | Webb smiles as she recounts discussions with her daughter about naming her son. Friday September 28, 2012 10:09 SNAndyHoag |
10:13 | Webb recognizes her daughter's purse, and identifies from a photo the back of her daughter's Aztek. Friday September 28, 2012 10:13 SNAndyHoag |
10:14 | Webb: Daughter owned a motorcycle, but knew being a single mother would need more money, so she sold it. Friday September 28, 2012 10:14 SNAndyHoag |
10:16 | Thomas pulls the purse out of an evidence bag: pic.twitter.com/IaVTUMoR Friday September 28, 2012 10:16 SNAndyHoag |
10:17 | Webb: Got home that night about 9:15 p.m., daughter not home yet. Checked with Angie, other daughter, who said she'd call Andrea King. Friday September 28, 2012 10:17 SNAndyHoag |
10:17 | Webb: King told Angie that Jennifer went to go see "the baby daddy." Friday September 28, 2012 10:17 SNAndyHoag |
10:19 | MSP's Ogg and Teddy showed her the suicide note. Read it outloud to Don, Angie. Didn't finish it because it wasn't something ... Friday September 28, 2012 10:19 SNAndyHoag |
10:19 | ... she would write, and there were things that weren't true. "She would have handwritten it." Friday September 28, 2012 10:19 SNAndyHoag |
10:21 | Dawn Webb testifies about her daughter: pic.twitter.com/xApIIZVM Friday September 28, 2012 10:21 SNAndyHoag |
10:21 | @Micah92269051 you mean that other people won't see? you can email me at ahoag@mlive.com Friday September 28, 2012 10:21 SNAndyHoag |
10:23 | O'Farrell now questioning. Webb says daughter commonly referred to Braxton as "Little Man," or "Lil Man" Friday September 28, 2012 10:23 SNAndyHoag |
10:24 | Webb: Reviewed police reports yesterday to refresh her memory, but she remembered everything in there. Friday September 28, 2012 10:24 SNAndyHoag |
10:26 | RT @Mandalyn1401: @SNAndyHoag Is there a reason why the Mlive video has hardly any volume? Friday September 28, 2012 10:26 SNAndyHoag |
10:27 | @Mandalyn1401 Combination of our equipment and distance from the witness stand. We're doing the best we can. Friday September 28, 2012 10:27 SNAndyHoag |
10:27 | Webb: Daughter told her that Bluew was separated from his wife. Wanted baby to know his father. Friday September 28, 2012 10:27 SNAndyHoag |
10:31 | And with that, Webb is done testifying, and we're taking a break. Friday September 28, 2012 10:31 SNAndyHoag |
10:43 | @SNAndyHoag @Mandalyn1401 Use ear buds, it helps a lot. Friday September 28, 2012 10:43 KatieLyn14 |
10:43 | RT @Micah92269051: @SNAndyHoag Anyone else notice bluew is not looking most of the time at dawn Webb ? Friday September 28, 2012 10:43 SNAndyHoag |
10:44 | .@Micah92269051 he hasn't been looking at most of the witnesses. He's occupied taking notes, for the most part. Friday September 28, 2012 10:44 SNAndyHoag |
10:44 | @SNAndyHoag What were the names that O'Farrell asked about and the relevance? #bluewtrial Friday September 28, 2012 10:44 KatieLyn14 |
10:45 | .@KatieLyn14 I'm not 100% sure. I don't know if they were mentioned in the suicide note or in text messages, or what. Friday September 28, 2012 10:45 SNAndyHoag |
10:48 | RT @smh10srh: @SNAndyHoag Katie I think one was Jeremy Morris & ? Coupon. Friday September 28, 2012 10:48 SNAndyHoag |
10:49 | @smh10srh The other one is Ken Coupons. Friday September 28, 2012 10:49 SNAndyHoag |
10:50 | And we're back. Next witness is Angie Webb, Jennifer Webb's daughter. Friday September 28, 2012 10:50 SNAndyHoag |
10:55 | Thomas asking Webb about her sister, but we're not learning anything new. They bought the same phone the Thursday before her death. Friday September 28, 2012 10:55 SNAndyHoag |
10:56 | Thomas has Webb take her sister's phone out of an evidence package. Wondering if they'll use this as opportunity to show ... Friday September 28, 2012 10:56 SNAndyHoag |
10:57 | ... recent calls, contact of "Ken Cop Boo." Friday September 28, 2012 10:57 SNAndyHoag |
10:57 | Oh my, sorry folks. Obviously Angie is Jenny's sister. Friday September 28, 2012 10:57 SNAndyHoag |
10:58 | I was wondering why I had like 8 new mentions all of a sudden. Sorry again. Friday September 28, 2012 10:58 SNAndyHoag |
10:59 | Now that I have that embarrassing moment out of the way, Webb testifying about one of the break-ins at her sister's home. Friday September 28, 2012 10:59 SNAndyHoag |
11:00 | Webb: At least 2 of the 3 suspects in that incident were caught. Jenny Webb testified against them, Angie says. Friday September 28, 2012 11:00 SNAndyHoag |
11:02 | Webb: Visited parents one day and sister told her she was pregnant, that Ken Bluew was father. Knew Bluew from when ... Friday September 28, 2012 11:02 SNAndyHoag |
11:03 | ... she went with her sister to the Backstreet bar on Holland in BV. Bluew would come by on patrol, they became friends. Friday September 28, 2012 11:03 SNAndyHoag |
11:04 | Angie Webb testifies about her sister: pic.twitter.com/p6MeOFvu Friday September 28, 2012 11:04 SNAndyHoag |
11:06 | Webb: Last time saw sister alive was Aug. 29, night before her death. Friday September 28, 2012 11:06 SNAndyHoag |
11:06 | RT @Jaynie1981: @SNAndyHoag . Sounds working, not video. Friday September 28, 2012 11:06 SNAndyHoag |
11:06 | @Jaynie1981 I'm told that if you refresh the page, it should work. Friday September 28, 2012 11:06 SNAndyHoag |
11:07 | Webb: "She was ecstatic. She was so looking forward to having that baby." Friday September 28, 2012 11:07 SNAndyHoag |
11:07 | @smh10srh @SNAndyHoag what names? Andy did you tweet about that? I may have missed it. Friday September 28, 2012 11:07 KirstenWhitlock |
11:08 | @KirstenWhitlock @smh10srh I might've mentioned one of them on another day, but it seems pretty irrelevant. It was heard on the live video. Friday September 28, 2012 11:08 SNAndyHoag |
11:09 | Thomas going through the suicide note, asking Webb if she ever heard her sister say any of the things in the note. Each time, "No." Friday September 28, 2012 11:09 SNAndyHoag |
11:10 | Webb: On night of death, mom called and said they hadn't seen Jenny yet. She called sister's phone, no answer, tried to text her. Friday September 28, 2012 11:10 SNAndyHoag |
11:11 | Webb: No response, which was "unusual." Texted Andrea King, who said "she went to go see baby daddy." Friday September 28, 2012 11:11 SNAndyHoag |
11:13 | Webb: Spoke with mother on phone about 2:15 a.m., mother said that Waterman came and said Jenny committed suicide. Friday September 28, 2012 11:13 SNAndyHoag |
11:14 | Webb: Responded by saying, "That's bull----" and they cried on the phone. She went over to parents' house. Friday September 28, 2012 11:14 SNAndyHoag |
11:17 | O'Farrell now on cross. Webb told police that King said Jenny left to see Bluew about 9 p.m. Friday September 28, 2012 11:17 SNAndyHoag |
11:18 | O'Farrell brought this up during King's testimony, too, and King said she remembered Webb leaving about 8:30 or just before then. Friday September 28, 2012 11:18 SNAndyHoag |
11:19 | Webb: Sister spoke with her about going to Friend of the Court. Jenny told Angie that Bluew was "receptive" to this and ... Friday September 28, 2012 11:19 SNAndyHoag |
11:20 | ... that he was surprised it took her that long to get to that point. They had talked about him making off-the-record payments but ... Friday September 28, 2012 11:20 SNAndyHoag |
11:20 | ... he told her he may have to leave the state at some point due to the job market. She felt that wasn't the best for her. Friday September 28, 2012 11:20 SNAndyHoag |
11:21 | O'Farrell again asks about Jeremy Morris and Ken Coupons. Webb says she knows Jeremy and Jenny were friends, doesn't know Coupons. Friday September 28, 2012 11:21 SNAndyHoag |
11:23 | Thomas back for re-direct. Webb: Didn't know her sister's relationship with Bluew was "more than friends." Friday September 28, 2012 11:23 SNAndyHoag |
11:23 | Apparently this Jeremy Morris went to Bridgeport HS at same time the Webb sisters went there. Friday September 28, 2012 11:23 SNAndyHoag |
11:23 | RT @nessarae33: @SNAndyHoag Has Ken been on the stand yet since this began I satrted following yesturday Friday September 28, 2012 11:23 SNAndyHoag |
11:24 | @nessarae33 No, that won't happen, if it even does, until the prosecution is done presenting their evidence. Friday September 28, 2012 11:24 SNAndyHoag |
11:24 | @SNAndyHoag they graduated together Friday September 28, 2012 11:24 Mandalyn1401 |
11:25 | Webb: Sister never would have typed out a suicide letter. Would have been in pen, and would have wrote individual letters for family. Friday September 28, 2012 11:25 SNAndyHoag |
11:25 | And Webb is done. Next witness is Ivan Phillips from the morgue. Friday September 28, 2012 11:25 SNAndyHoag |
11:27 | Phillips is owner of Paradise Funeral Chapel, which transports bodies for Saginaw County to Covenant HealthCare. Friday September 28, 2012 11:27 SNAndyHoag |
11:28 | When he got to scene, knew Waterman and Bluew, and there was another officer there he didn't know. Friday September 28, 2012 11:28 SNAndyHoag |
11:29 | RT @linzyXOmarie: @SNAndyHoag can I still watch the video after court has finished for the day? I tried yesterday but all I could hear w ... Friday September 28, 2012 11:29 SNAndyHoag |
11:30 | @linzyXOmarie I believe you can, but I'll try to get a better answer for you than that. Friday September 28, 2012 11:30 SNAndyHoag |
11:34 | Phillips says the Aztek wasn't moved and that the cord wasn't cut until they moved Webb's body up to the road. This completely ... Friday September 28, 2012 11:34 SNAndyHoag |
11:34 | ... contradicts everything Patterson and Waterman said. Friday September 28, 2012 11:34 SNAndyHoag |
11:36 | Phillips: He and Patterson drove separately to Covenant. Body was placed in the morgue. Says he didn't open body bag at all. Friday September 28, 2012 11:36 SNAndyHoag |
11:36 | RT @nichol0715: @SNAndyHoag is that a good thing or a bad thing? Friday September 28, 2012 11:36 SNAndyHoag |
11:37 | .@nichol0715 I suppose it depends on your perspective, but I'd imagine the prosecution will say Phillips just isn't remembering correctly. Friday September 28, 2012 11:37 SNAndyHoag |
11:38 | Phillips: Doesn't write reports in regards to transports, didn't review any reports prior to testifying. Friday September 28, 2012 11:38 SNAndyHoag |
11:41 | Phillips says he grabbed Webb by her pants and pulled her up to a flat surface. Friday September 28, 2012 11:41 SNAndyHoag |
11:42 | Patterson testified that Waterman and Phillips grabbed her by her wrists. Friday September 28, 2012 11:42 SNAndyHoag |
11:43 | Phillips doesn't recall any photos being taken. Says again that cord still was around neck when she was pulled up. Friday September 28, 2012 11:43 SNAndyHoag |
11:45 | And Phillips is done now. Bench conference, likely to talk about breaking for lunch. Friday September 28, 2012 11:45 SNAndyHoag |
11:46 | Thomas and Stroud must have a brief witness coming up, because we aren't breaking yet. Witness is David Taylor from MMR. Friday September 28, 2012 11:46 SNAndyHoag |
11:47 | Taylor is a paramedic supervisor, and went to Outer & Hack. Friday September 28, 2012 11:47 SNAndyHoag |
11:50 | Taylor: Knew Bluew, who was on scene. Bluew was at the passenger side of the vehicle when Taylor arrived. Friday September 28, 2012 11:50 SNAndyHoag |
11:50 | @SNAndyHoag last I knew he wasn't working at MMR anymore Friday September 28, 2012 11:50 nichol0715 |
11:51 | @nichol0715 I'm not aware either way of his current employment. It wasn't actually mentioned that way, I suppose. Friday September 28, 2012 11:51 SNAndyHoag |
11:52 | Taylor: Spoke with Bluew near the trunk of Bluew's vehicle. Bluew was "sweating profusely." Asked if he was OK. Friday September 28, 2012 11:52 SNAndyHoag |
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Friday September 28, 2012 11:53 Andy Hoag |
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Friday September 28, 2012 11:54 Andy Hoag |
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Friday September 28, 2012 11:55 Andy Hoag |
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Friday September 28, 2012 11:57 Andy Hoag |
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Friday September 28, 2012 11:58 Andy Hoag |
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Friday September 28, 2012 11:58 Andy Hoag |
12:15 | Sorry folks, got put in #twitterjail again. We've broke for lunch. Friday September 28, 2012 12:15 SNAndyHoag |
12:27 | RT @McMullenMegan: @SNAndyHoag Andy am I correct in hearing that he said bluew told him he was sweating bc he has a lot of clothes on an ... Friday September 28, 2012 12:27 SNAndyHoag |
12:28 | @McMullenMegan That's correct. That's one of the tweets I was only able to put on MLive. Friday September 28, 2012 12:28 SNAndyHoag |
12:53 | @SNAndyHoag Has anyone mentioned why Bluew was bleeding in the first place? Friday September 28, 2012 12:53 teneyuque20 |
12:54 | @teneyuque20 The assertion in Stroud's opening argument was that Webb bit his finger when he had gloves on. Friday September 28, 2012 12:54 SNAndyHoag |
1:36 | My morning recap: mlive.com/news/saginaw/i… Friday September 28, 2012 1:36 SNAndyHoag |
1:41 | RT @jessacastillo: @SNAndyHoag is court done with for today Friday September 28, 2012 1:41 SNAndyHoag |
1:41 | @jessacastillo Nope, still haven't come back from lunch break. Friday September 28, 2012 1:41 SNAndyHoag |
1:53 | And we're back. First witness is Nate Gobeyn from Gobeyn's towing in Bridgeport. He towed Webb's vehicle from the scene. Friday September 28, 2012 1:53 SNAndyHoag |
1:55 | Gobeyn says only Waterman was there when he arrived. Friday September 28, 2012 1:55 SNAndyHoag |
1:56 | To tow vehicle, had to position it different to gain access to front of vehicle. To do so, had to get in driver's seat. Friday September 28, 2012 1:56 SNAndyHoag |
1:57 | Gobeyn: Waterman told him there was no "holds" on vehicle, so no need for gloves. Doesn't believe he put gloves on. Friday September 28, 2012 1:57 SNAndyHoag |
1:59 | Gobeyn: Only got in front seat at time. When he got vehicle to lot, saw cord still hanging, and w/o "holds" on the vehicle ... Friday September 28, 2012 1:59 SNAndyHoag |
1:59 | ... decided to remove cord so family didn't have to see it. Had gloves on but couldn't loosen knot, so took gloves off to take it down. Friday September 28, 2012 1:59 SNAndyHoag |
2:01 | Gobeyn: Placed cord in backseat. Next morning, Gary Ginther from MSP crime lab called between 6:30-7 a.m. Friday September 28, 2012 2:01 SNAndyHoag |
2:01 | Gobeyn: Ginther told him to have it towed to MSP garage, not to touch vehicle. Friday September 28, 2012 2:01 SNAndyHoag |
2:03 | Stroud is done with questioning. O'Farrell up now. Friday September 28, 2012 2:03 SNAndyHoag |
2:05 | Gobeyn: Didn't have to move vehicle once he unhooked it at lot. Friday September 28, 2012 2:05 SNAndyHoag |
2:09 | Nothing further from Gobeyn. Next witness is James Popp, who towed the Aztek to the MSP garage. Friday September 28, 2012 2:09 SNAndyHoag |
2:11 | Popp: Had no reason to enter or touch vehicle and didn't enter or touch vehicle. Friday September 28, 2012 2:11 SNAndyHoag |
2:11 | @SNAndyHoag what does Jeremy or the other guy coupon have to do with the case Friday September 28, 2012 2:11 KellySchmidt18 |
2:12 | @KellySchmidt18 Still trying to figure that out. O'Farrell's questions about them have been brief. Friday September 28, 2012 2:12 SNAndyHoag |
2:12 | @SNAndyHoag wow no questions from o Farrel to the tow company! ? Friday September 28, 2012 2:12 kizziem34 |
2:13 | @kizziem34 He had a couple, but nothing new and/or of significance Friday September 28, 2012 2:13 SNAndyHoag |
2:13 | Popp: Also towed Bluew's police cruiser to MSP crime lab. Friday September 28, 2012 2:13 SNAndyHoag |
2:15 | Stroud is done, now O'Farrell, who asks when he was contacted by the police and given subpoena, which he got couple weeks ago. Friday September 28, 2012 2:15 SNAndyHoag |
2:16 | I think O'Farrell's point with that question will be to show that this part of the investigation wasn't done until just recently. Friday September 28, 2012 2:16 SNAndyHoag |
2:16 | @SNAndyHoag As I am new to the whole twitter thing, I am curious as to why I can't view your responses to other peoples questions? Friday September 28, 2012 2:16 teneyuque20 |
2:17 | .@teneyuque20 it's because you don't follow those people. I keep meaning to place a period in front of names so everybody can see ... Friday September 28, 2012 2:17 SNAndyHoag |
2:17 | .@teneyuque20 ... the responses but I keep forgetting. Sorry for that. Friday September 28, 2012 2:17 SNAndyHoag |
2:18 | Popp is done, and the next witness is former BV Police Chief Brian Booker. Friday September 28, 2012 2:18 SNAndyHoag |
2:19 | Booker: When hired as chief, Bluew was "one-man detective unit" Friday September 28, 2012 2:19 SNAndyHoag |
2:20 | Booker: Bluew returned to third shift patrol after his stint as Tittabawassee Township police chief Friday September 28, 2012 2:20 SNAndyHoag |
2:20 | Booker: Received phone call from Waterman, who had just left Webbs' house and "figured he had more than just a suicide." Friday September 28, 2012 2:20 SNAndyHoag |
2:22 | Booker: Told Waterman to go back to scene, "re-establish" scene. He contacted MSP Lt. Jenkins, Thomas, Stroud. Got to scene at approx. 2:45. Friday September 28, 2012 2:22 SNAndyHoag |
2:23 | Booker: When he got there, Waterman had re-established scene. Patterson there too, Booker says. Patterson hadn't mentioned being there then. Friday September 28, 2012 2:23 SNAndyHoag |
2:24 | Booker: Patterson told him about his role. He waited until D/Sgts. Ogg and Teddy arrived, left about 6 a.m. Friday September 28, 2012 2:24 SNAndyHoag |
2:25 | Booker says he saw physically printed photographs, but Waterman didn't testify that happened yet. They were on digital camera. Friday September 28, 2012 2:25 SNAndyHoag |
2:26 | Booker testifies: pic.twitter.com/zObRPhAB Friday September 28, 2012 2:26 SNAndyHoag |
2:27 | Booker: When he left, crime lab not there. Came back at 7 a.m. Friday September 28, 2012 2:27 SNAndyHoag |
2:28 | Booker: About 5:30 a.m., Bluew showed up in patrol car. Booker walked to him instead of letting Bluew getting out. Friday September 28, 2012 2:28 SNAndyHoag |
2:28 | Booker: Bluew said, "What's up chief?" Booker said, "I don't know Ken, you tell me." Booker asked if he knew Webb and ... Friday September 28, 2012 2:28 SNAndyHoag |
2:29 | ... Bluew said he knew her but wasn't the father of the baby. Booker says he hadn't asked who the father was. Friday September 28, 2012 2:29 SNAndyHoag |
2:30 | Booker: Bluew said he had "nothing to hide," and Booker said that was "good," because the investigators had questions. Bluew said, "OK." Friday September 28, 2012 2:30 SNAndyHoag |
2:30 | Booker: Bluew said he knew Webb for about 10 years but wouldn't jeopardize his marriage by "dealing with her." Friday September 28, 2012 2:30 SNAndyHoag |
2:32 | Booker: Returned to BVPD, saw Bluew in lunch room, out of uniform. Friday September 28, 2012 2:32 SNAndyHoag |
2:33 | Booker: Walked scene with MSP crime lab personnel, who showed him certain evidence. Friday September 28, 2012 2:33 SNAndyHoag |
2:33 | Booker: Spoke with Bluew on Sept. 1. Bluew called him via cellphone, said, "you always been straight with me, and I know this ... Friday September 28, 2012 2:33 SNAndyHoag |
2:34 | ... against protocol, but I need to know what they know." He repeated the question to Bluew, because "I couldn't believe ... Friday September 28, 2012 2:34 SNAndyHoag |
2:36 | Stroud asks Booker about PPCT, or Pressure Point Control Tactics, used to subdue suspects. Friday September 28, 2012 2:36 SNAndyHoag |
2:37 | Booker: Bluew was being trained to be a PPCT instructor for BVPD. Friday September 28, 2012 2:37 SNAndyHoag |
2:37 | Stroud is done, now O'Farrell. Friday September 28, 2012 2:37 SNAndyHoag |
2:39 | O'Farrell points out that all officers go through similar PPCT training. Friday September 28, 2012 2:39 SNAndyHoag |
2:40 | Booker: Believes Bluew was already certified in PPCT in years past but needed to be re-certified to be a trainer. Friday September 28, 2012 2:40 SNAndyHoag |
2:40 | RT @nessarae33: @SNAndyHoag do you knoe how many more witnesses they have Friday September 28, 2012 2:40 SNAndyHoag |
2:41 | .@nessarae33 I don't. Their witness list had 21 who they "intended" to call, but they've already called numerous people not among those 21. Friday September 28, 2012 2:41 SNAndyHoag |
2:42 | Booker: Bluew was an "excellent detective." Recommended him for the Titt. Twp. chief job. Wanted to come back to BV cuz of slower pace. Friday September 28, 2012 2:42 SNAndyHoag |
2:43 | @SusanneMackley I did. It was "...he was asking me that question." Friday September 28, 2012 2:43 SNAndyHoag |
2:46 | O'Farrell getting more ammo to attack the investigation, as Booker agrees that having suspect on scene would contaminate it. Friday September 28, 2012 2:46 SNAndyHoag |
2:47 | Booker: When Bluew asked about what the investigators knew, he also asked whether he would be suspended. Booker said yes. Friday September 28, 2012 2:47 SNAndyHoag |
2:47 | Booker: Bluew suspended indefinitely Sept. 2, remains on that status. Friday September 28, 2012 2:47 SNAndyHoag |
2:47 | @SNAndyHoag Can you mike the wittnesses Friday September 28, 2012 2:47 GeneNoack |
2:48 | .@GeneNoack Unfortunately, no. Our equipment isn't exactly TV news equipment. This has shown us we need an upgrade. Friday September 28, 2012 2:48 SNAndyHoag |
2:48 | And Booker is done. Next witness is MSP D/Sgt. Allan Ogg, one of the two lead investigators. Friday September 28, 2012 2:48 SNAndyHoag |
2:58 | Ogg going over some basics. He and Teddy went to the BVPD "to conduct further investigation there" and contact Bluew. Friday September 28, 2012 2:58 SNAndyHoag |
3:00 | Ogg: Spoke with Bluew, interviewed him between 6:30-7. He was no longer in police uniform. Friday September 28, 2012 3:00 SNAndyHoag |
3:02 | Ogg: Questioning primarily done by Teddy. Interview lasted "in excess of 2 hours." Friday September 28, 2012 3:02 SNAndyHoag |
3:06 | Ogg: Bluew had an abrasion of sorts under eye. Eye itself was bloodshot, appeared to be watering slightly. "Most obvious thing" noticed. Friday September 28, 2012 3:06 SNAndyHoag |
3:06 | Ogg testifies: pic.twitter.com/z8hADm2N Friday September 28, 2012 3:06 SNAndyHoag |
3:07 | Ogg: Bluew had injury on top of head, had four red marks on forearm. Band aid on top of right index finger. Friday September 28, 2012 3:07 SNAndyHoag |
3:13 | Ogg: Retrieved a "buccal swab" from Bluew, to obtain a "known DNA sample." Friday September 28, 2012 3:13 SNAndyHoag |
3:13 | @SNAndyHoag are those the pictures being showed. of the marks Friday September 28, 2012 3:13 SabrinaCabello |
3:13 | .@SabrinaCabello yes, sorry. Should have mentioned that. Friday September 28, 2012 3:13 SNAndyHoag |
3:15 | The forearm injury appears to be as if someone were to dig four fingernails into the arm. Friday September 28, 2012 3:15 SNAndyHoag |
3:15 | @SNAndyHoag where did bluew say he received these injuries from ? Friday September 28, 2012 3:15 McMullenMegan |
3:17 | Ogg: Bluew consented to have his uniform taken for examination. Friday September 28, 2012 3:17 SNAndyHoag |
3:19 | Ogg describes the injury to the top of Bluew's head: pic.twitter.com/umU3MDzq Friday September 28, 2012 3:19 SNAndyHoag |
3:20 | The injury to Bluew's right eye: pic.twitter.com/7rYfpXKJ Friday September 28, 2012 3:20 SNAndyHoag |
3:21 | Ogg: Bluew gave them gym bag w/ uniform he said he had on that night. Further inspection of his truck showed a uniform he said was old. Friday September 28, 2012 3:21 SNAndyHoag |
3:24 | Ogg: That following Sunday, went to MSP crime lab, examined Bluew's uniform. Pants were pressed as if not worn. Friday September 28, 2012 3:24 SNAndyHoag |
3:24 | Ogg: Smelled underarm of t-shirt, smelled like detergent or fabric softener. Friday September 28, 2012 3:24 SNAndyHoag |
3:26 | And we're going to break for the day. Trial will resume at 9 a.m. Tuesday. Friday September 28, 2012 3:26 SNAndyHoag |
3:27 | @SNAndyHoag im sorry, i misunderstood this..the uniform he gave ended up NOT being the one he wore the nigh before? Sorry to use up tweets Friday September 28, 2012 3:27 nessarae33 |
3:28 | .@nessarae33 It certainly doesn't appear that way. Friday September 28, 2012 3:28 SNAndyHoag |
3:28 | @Sean_L_Fitz Glad I could help. Friday September 28, 2012 3:28 SNAndyHoag |
3:28 | RT @Sean_L_Fitz: @SNAndyHoag is the clean smelling uniform the one in the yellow bag or the one that Bluew claimed was old and too small? Friday September 28, 2012 3:28 SNAndyHoag |
3:28 | .@Sean_L_Fitz the one in the yellow bag, the one he said he wore that night. Friday September 28, 2012 3:28 SNAndyHoag |
3:29 | @SNAndyHoag awesome job!! thx for your tweets! have a great weekend Friday September 28, 2012 3:29 nessarae33 |
3:29 | @nessarae33 you too! Friday September 28, 2012 3:29 SNAndyHoag |
3:30 | As usual, going to close the MLive chat. Feel free to tweet questions/comments on me or post them on MLive. Friday September 28, 2012 3:30 SNAndyHoag |




















