Ken Bluew Trial Day 4
9:18
Let me try that one more time for the MLive followers: Bluew has arrived in court; should be getting started soon.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:18 SNAndyHoag
9:19
We WILL be having live video again today. I'll post the link to that as soon as testimony begins.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:19 SNAndyHoag
9:21
Judge here, and O'Farrell has something he wants to place on record w/o jury present. It's about the hearsay statements discussed yesterday.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:21 SNAndyHoag
9:22
O'Farrell wants ruling in advance to avoid having to object to inadmissible hearsay. Doesn't want to look like he's withholding information.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:22 SNAndyHoag
9:23
Thomas says he will attempt to guide witnesses along in order to stay in compliance w/ order regarding statements.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:23 SNAndyHoag
9:24
Judge will allow leeway for Thomas asking leading questions to assure appropriate answers.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:24 SNAndyHoag
9:25
Jury being brought in.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:25 SNAndyHoag
9:27
Next witness: James Terry, who owns PF Markey, where Webb worked.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:27 SNAndyHoag
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Friday September 28, 2012 9:27 SNAndyHoag
9:29
RT @smh10srh: @SNAndyHoag just a quick FYI, the people that are by the video camera need to "whisper" a little bit less. We can hear wha ...
Friday September 28, 2012 9:29 SNAndyHoag
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Terry: Next day, heard about her death and that it was a suicide. He said, "Absolutely not. Not Jenny Webb, not here not now."
Friday September 28, 2012 9:29 SNAndyHoag
9:32
Judge Jackson listens to O'Farrell's argument from earlier: pic.twitter.com/DRXE5YW5
Friday September 28, 2012 9:32 SNAndyHoag
9:32
Thomas asks question regarding Terry offering to help pay for some of Webb's family's expenses.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:32 SNAndyHoag
9:33
O'Farrell objects on relevancy, Jackson sustains.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:33 SNAndyHoag
9:35
Terry done. Next witness: Kelly Guilbaux, who went to Delta College w/ Webb in 1997. Remained friends.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:35 SNAndyHoag
9:37
Guilbaux: Webb told her she was pregnant, that the father was "Ken."
Friday September 28, 2012 9:37 SNAndyHoag
9:38
Guilbaux: Saw Webb week before her death, had dinner together. Webb told her that she was going to put Bluew's name on birth certificate.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:38 SNAndyHoag
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Guilbaux: Webb also said she was going to go through Friend of the Court.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:38 SNAndyHoag
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Guilbaux: "She was ready to have this baby. She was ready to be a mom. ... She was ready to bring him into this world."
Friday September 28, 2012 9:39 SNAndyHoag
9:40
Guilbaux: Webb did not appear depressed or despondent, didn't say she was having trouble at work.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:40 SNAndyHoag
9:44
Guilbaux: Sent a text message to Webb the night she died. Sent it about 9 p.m. regarding meeting for maternity photos next day.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:44 SNAndyHoag
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Guilbaux: Webb replied and said yes. She told Webb to get some rest, she said everybody had been telling her that.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:44 SNAndyHoag
9:46
Guilbaux done. Next witness is Lisa Martin, who works at Dow Kokam.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:46 SNAndyHoag
9:47
Martin: Friends with Webb about 10 years. They worked together at a different company.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:47 SNAndyHoag
9:48
Martin: "Very close friends." Saw her once every two weeks or so, spoke on phone weekly. Also texted each other.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:48 SNAndyHoag
9:49
Martin: Found out in May that Webb was pregnant. She told her "Ken" was the father.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:49 SNAndyHoag
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Martin: "She was excited ... doing a lot of planning." Buying books, shopping. "Excited about doctor's appointments," seeing pictures.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:49 SNAndyHoag
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Martin: Webb would share ultrasound pictures with friends. Was "getting her life in order" cuz she "knew it was going to be a transition."
Friday September 28, 2012 9:50 SNAndyHoag
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Martin: Webb initially was not going to go for child support, "wanted to see how things panned out." She encouraged Webb to go to ...
Friday September 28, 2012 9:51 SNAndyHoag
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... Friend of the Court. Felt it was "irresponsible" for father not to be involved. Last couple weeks of her life, Webb decided ...
Friday September 28, 2012 9:51 SNAndyHoag
9:52
... to name him on birth certificate, seek child support.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:52 SNAndyHoag
9:53
Martin: Spoke with her two days before her death. Asked how things were going, cuz heard her house was broken into again.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:53 SNAndyHoag
9:54
Martin: House broken into that Saturday. Would have been third time. Webb already was living at parents' home.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:54 SNAndyHoag
9:54
O'Farrell now up. Funny moment as Martin thought she was all done and tried to get up and leave.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:54 SNAndyHoag
9:57
Dawn and her husband Donald have not been able to watch the trial, as they have been sequestered.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:57 SNAndyHoag
9:59
Thomas establishing that Dawn Webb was employed, Donald Webb retired, Jennifer Webb's brother & sister both employed.
Friday September 28, 2012 9:59 SNAndyHoag
10:00
Now Dawn Webb talking about when Waterman came to home. Said Waterman called, said he was at front door. They let him in.
Friday September 28, 2012 10:00 SNAndyHoag
10:01
Webb: Waterman told them she was dead. "My daughter may be dead, but she did not commit suicide."
Friday September 28, 2012 10:01 SNAndyHoag
10:01
As Webb recounts talking with Waterman, numerous family members in gallery can be heard crying.
Friday September 28, 2012 10:01 SNAndyHoag
10:02
Webb: Both she and husband adamant that their daughter wouldn't have committed suicide. "She was happy."
Friday September 28, 2012 10:02 SNAndyHoag
10:03
Webb: She told Waterman that Bluew was father, Waterman got "kind of white," said they needed to sit down and talk.
Friday September 28, 2012 10:03 SNAndyHoag
10:04
Friday September 28, 2012 10:04 SNAndyHoag
10:05
Webb: "She had it all ready. She was cramped in that (bed)room, but she had it all ready."
Friday September 28, 2012 10:05 SNAndyHoag
10:06
Webb: She and husband told their daughter in July it'd be best if she moved to their home.
Friday September 28, 2012 10:06 SNAndyHoag
10:07
Webb: "She was just very excited about it all."
Friday September 28, 2012 10:07 SNAndyHoag
10:09
Webb smiles as she recounts discussions with her daughter about naming her son.
Friday September 28, 2012 10:09 SNAndyHoag
10:13
Webb recognizes her daughter's purse, and identifies from a photo the back of her daughter's Aztek.
Friday September 28, 2012 10:13 SNAndyHoag
10:14
Webb: Daughter owned a motorcycle, but knew being a single mother would need more money, so she sold it.
Friday September 28, 2012 10:14 SNAndyHoag
10:16
Thomas pulls the purse out of an evidence bag: pic.twitter.com/IaVTUMoR
Friday September 28, 2012 10:16 SNAndyHoag
10:17
Webb: Got home that night about 9:15 p.m., daughter not home yet. Checked with Angie, other daughter, who said she'd call Andrea King.
Friday September 28, 2012 10:17 SNAndyHoag
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Webb: King told Angie that Jennifer went to go see "the baby daddy."
Friday September 28, 2012 10:17 SNAndyHoag
10:19
MSP's Ogg and Teddy showed her the suicide note. Read it outloud to Don, Angie. Didn't finish it because it wasn't something ...
Friday September 28, 2012 10:19 SNAndyHoag
10:19
... she would write, and there were things that weren't true. "She would have handwritten it."
Friday September 28, 2012 10:19 SNAndyHoag
10:21
Dawn Webb testifies about her daughter: pic.twitter.com/xApIIZVM
Friday September 28, 2012 10:21 SNAndyHoag
10:21
@Micah92269051 you mean that other people won't see? you can email me at ahoag@mlive.com
Friday September 28, 2012 10:21 SNAndyHoag
10:23
O'Farrell now questioning. Webb says daughter commonly referred to Braxton as "Little Man," or "Lil Man"
Friday September 28, 2012 10:23 SNAndyHoag
10:24
Webb: Reviewed police reports yesterday to refresh her memory, but she remembered everything in there.
Friday September 28, 2012 10:24 SNAndyHoag
10:26
RT @Mandalyn1401: @SNAndyHoag Is there a reason why the Mlive video has hardly any volume?
Friday September 28, 2012 10:26 SNAndyHoag
10:27
@Mandalyn1401 Combination of our equipment and distance from the witness stand. We're doing the best we can.
Friday September 28, 2012 10:27 SNAndyHoag
10:27
Webb: Daughter told her that Bluew was separated from his wife. Wanted baby to know his father.
Friday September 28, 2012 10:27 SNAndyHoag
10:31
And with that, Webb is done testifying, and we're taking a break.
Friday September 28, 2012 10:31 SNAndyHoag
10:43
@SNAndyHoag @Mandalyn1401 Use ear buds, it helps a lot.
Friday September 28, 2012 10:43 KatieLyn14
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RT @Micah92269051: @SNAndyHoag Anyone else notice bluew is not looking most of the time at dawn Webb ?
Friday September 28, 2012 10:43 SNAndyHoag
10:44
.@Micah92269051 he hasn't been looking at most of the witnesses. He's occupied taking notes, for the most part.
Friday September 28, 2012 10:44 SNAndyHoag
10:44
@SNAndyHoag What were the names that O'Farrell asked about and the relevance? #bluewtrial
Friday September 28, 2012 10:44 KatieLyn14
10:45
.@KatieLyn14 I'm not 100% sure. I don't know if they were mentioned in the suicide note or in text messages, or what.
Friday September 28, 2012 10:45 SNAndyHoag
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RT @smh10srh: @SNAndyHoag Katie I think one was Jeremy Morris & ? Coupon.
Friday September 28, 2012 10:48 SNAndyHoag
10:49
@smh10srh The other one is Ken Coupons.
Friday September 28, 2012 10:49 SNAndyHoag
10:50
And we're back. Next witness is Angie Webb, Jennifer Webb's daughter.
Friday September 28, 2012 10:50 SNAndyHoag
10:55
Thomas asking Webb about her sister, but we're not learning anything new. They bought the same phone the Thursday before her death.
Friday September 28, 2012 10:55 SNAndyHoag
10:56
Thomas has Webb take her sister's phone out of an evidence package. Wondering if they'll use this as opportunity to show ...
Friday September 28, 2012 10:56 SNAndyHoag
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... recent calls, contact of "Ken Cop Boo."
Friday September 28, 2012 10:57 SNAndyHoag
10:57
Oh my, sorry folks. Obviously Angie is Jenny's sister.
Friday September 28, 2012 10:57 SNAndyHoag
10:58
I was wondering why I had like 8 new mentions all of a sudden. Sorry again.
Friday September 28, 2012 10:58 SNAndyHoag
10:59
Now that I have that embarrassing moment out of the way, Webb testifying about one of the break-ins at her sister's home.
Friday September 28, 2012 10:59 SNAndyHoag
11:00
Webb: At least 2 of the 3 suspects in that incident were caught. Jenny Webb testified against them, Angie says.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:00 SNAndyHoag
11:02
Webb: Visited parents one day and sister told her she was pregnant, that Ken Bluew was father. Knew Bluew from when ...
Friday September 28, 2012 11:02 SNAndyHoag
11:03
... she went with her sister to the Backstreet bar on Holland in BV. Bluew would come by on patrol, they became friends.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:03 SNAndyHoag
11:04
Angie Webb testifies about her sister: pic.twitter.com/p6MeOFvu
Friday September 28, 2012 11:04 SNAndyHoag
11:06
Webb: Last time saw sister alive was Aug. 29, night before her death.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:06 SNAndyHoag
11:06
RT @Jaynie1981: @SNAndyHoag . Sounds working, not video.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:06 SNAndyHoag
11:06
@Jaynie1981 I'm told that if you refresh the page, it should work.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:06 SNAndyHoag
11:07
Webb: "She was ecstatic. She was so looking forward to having that baby."
Friday September 28, 2012 11:07 SNAndyHoag
11:07
@smh10srh @SNAndyHoag what names? Andy did you tweet about that? I may have missed it.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:07 KirstenWhitlock
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@KirstenWhitlock @smh10srh I might've mentioned one of them on another day, but it seems pretty irrelevant. It was heard on the live video.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:08 SNAndyHoag
11:09
Thomas going through the suicide note, asking Webb if she ever heard her sister say any of the things in the note. Each time, "No."
Friday September 28, 2012 11:09 SNAndyHoag
11:10
Webb: On night of death, mom called and said they hadn't seen Jenny yet. She called sister's phone, no answer, tried to text her.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:10 SNAndyHoag
11:11
Webb: No response, which was "unusual." Texted Andrea King, who said "she went to go see baby daddy."
Friday September 28, 2012 11:11 SNAndyHoag
11:13
Webb: Spoke with mother on phone about 2:15 a.m., mother said that Waterman came and said Jenny committed suicide.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:13 SNAndyHoag
11:14
Webb: Responded by saying, "That's bull----" and they cried on the phone. She went over to parents' house.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:14 SNAndyHoag
11:17
O'Farrell now on cross. Webb told police that King said Jenny left to see Bluew about 9 p.m.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:17 SNAndyHoag
11:18
O'Farrell brought this up during King's testimony, too, and King said she remembered Webb leaving about 8:30 or just before then.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:18 SNAndyHoag
11:19
Webb: Sister spoke with her about going to Friend of the Court. Jenny told Angie that Bluew was "receptive" to this and ...
Friday September 28, 2012 11:19 SNAndyHoag
11:20
... that he was surprised it took her that long to get to that point. They had talked about him making off-the-record payments but ...
Friday September 28, 2012 11:20 SNAndyHoag
11:20
... he told her he may have to leave the state at some point due to the job market. She felt that wasn't the best for her.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:20 SNAndyHoag
11:21
O'Farrell again asks about Jeremy Morris and Ken Coupons. Webb says she knows Jeremy and Jenny were friends, doesn't know Coupons.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:21 SNAndyHoag
11:23
Thomas back for re-direct. Webb: Didn't know her sister's relationship with Bluew was "more than friends."
Friday September 28, 2012 11:23 SNAndyHoag
11:23
Apparently this Jeremy Morris went to Bridgeport HS at same time the Webb sisters went there.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:23 SNAndyHoag
11:23
RT @nessarae33: @SNAndyHoag Has Ken been on the stand yet since this began I satrted following yesturday
Friday September 28, 2012 11:23 SNAndyHoag
11:24
@nessarae33 No, that won't happen, if it even does, until the prosecution is done presenting their evidence.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:24 SNAndyHoag
11:24
@SNAndyHoag they graduated together
Friday September 28, 2012 11:24 Mandalyn1401
11:25
Webb: Sister never would have typed out a suicide letter. Would have been in pen, and would have wrote individual letters for family.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:25 SNAndyHoag
11:25
And Webb is done. Next witness is Ivan Phillips from the morgue.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:25 SNAndyHoag
11:27
Phillips is owner of Paradise Funeral Chapel, which transports bodies for Saginaw County to Covenant HealthCare.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:27 SNAndyHoag
11:28
When he got to scene, knew Waterman and Bluew, and there was another officer there he didn't know.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:28 SNAndyHoag
11:29
RT @linzyXOmarie: @SNAndyHoag can I still watch the video after court has finished for the day? I tried yesterday but all I could hear w ...
Friday September 28, 2012 11:29 SNAndyHoag
11:30
@linzyXOmarie I believe you can, but I'll try to get a better answer for you than that.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:30 SNAndyHoag
11:34
Phillips says the Aztek wasn't moved and that the cord wasn't cut until they moved Webb's body up to the road. This completely ...
Friday September 28, 2012 11:34 SNAndyHoag
11:34
... contradicts everything Patterson and Waterman said.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:34 SNAndyHoag
11:36
Phillips: He and Patterson drove separately to Covenant. Body was placed in the morgue. Says he didn't open body bag at all.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:36 SNAndyHoag
11:36
RT @nichol0715: @SNAndyHoag is that a good thing or a bad thing?
Friday September 28, 2012 11:36 SNAndyHoag
11:37
.@nichol0715 I suppose it depends on your perspective, but I'd imagine the prosecution will say Phillips just isn't remembering correctly.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:37 SNAndyHoag
11:38
Phillips: Doesn't write reports in regards to transports, didn't review any reports prior to testifying.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:38 SNAndyHoag
11:41
Phillips says he grabbed Webb by her pants and pulled her up to a flat surface.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:41 SNAndyHoag
11:42
Patterson testified that Waterman and Phillips grabbed her by her wrists.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:42 SNAndyHoag
11:43
Phillips doesn't recall any photos being taken. Says again that cord still was around neck when she was pulled up.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:43 SNAndyHoag
11:45
And Phillips is done now. Bench conference, likely to talk about breaking for lunch.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:45 SNAndyHoag
11:46
Thomas and Stroud must have a brief witness coming up, because we aren't breaking yet. Witness is David Taylor from MMR.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:46 SNAndyHoag
11:47
Taylor is a paramedic supervisor, and went to Outer & Hack.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:47 SNAndyHoag
11:50
Taylor: Knew Bluew, who was on scene. Bluew was at the passenger side of the vehicle when Taylor arrived.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:50 SNAndyHoag
11:50
@SNAndyHoag last I knew he wasn't working at MMR anymore
Friday September 28, 2012 11:50 nichol0715
11:51
@nichol0715 I'm not aware either way of his current employment. It wasn't actually mentioned that way, I suppose.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:51 SNAndyHoag
11:52
Taylor: Spoke with Bluew near the trunk of Bluew's vehicle. Bluew was "sweating profusely." Asked if he was OK.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:52 SNAndyHoag
11:53
Andy Hoag: 
Back in Twitter jail. Taylor said he didn't see Bluew do anything physically strenuous enough to be sweating that much.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:53 Andy Hoag
11:54
Andy Hoag: 
At least I'm getting put in jail just before lunch.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:54 Andy Hoag
11:55
Andy Hoag: 
Taylor: Didn't go inside police tape, but could see from vantage point could see she was deceased.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:55 Andy Hoag
11:57
Andy Hoag: 
O'Farrell now on cross. Taylor can only remember three officers -- Bluew, Patterson, Sylvester.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:57 Andy Hoag
11:58
Andy Hoag: 
When Taylor asked Bluew if he was OK, Bluew said, "I have all this stuff on plus I know her."
Friday September 28, 2012 11:58 Andy Hoag
11:58
Andy Hoag: 
And Taylor is done. Breaking for lunch.
Friday September 28, 2012 11:58 Andy Hoag
12:15
Sorry folks, got put in #twitterjail again. We've broke for lunch.
Friday September 28, 2012 12:15 SNAndyHoag
12:27
RT @McMullenMegan: @SNAndyHoag Andy am I correct in hearing that he said bluew told him he was sweating bc he has a lot of clothes on an ...
Friday September 28, 2012 12:27 SNAndyHoag
12:28
@McMullenMegan That's correct. That's one of the tweets I was only able to put on MLive.
Friday September 28, 2012 12:28 SNAndyHoag
12:53
@SNAndyHoag Has anyone mentioned why Bluew was bleeding in the first place?
Friday September 28, 2012 12:53 teneyuque20
12:54
@teneyuque20 The assertion in Stroud's opening argument was that Webb bit his finger when he had gloves on.
Friday September 28, 2012 12:54 SNAndyHoag
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Friday September 28, 2012 1:36 SNAndyHoag
1:41
RT @jessacastillo: @SNAndyHoag is court done with for today
Friday September 28, 2012 1:41 SNAndyHoag
1:41
@jessacastillo Nope, still haven't come back from lunch break.
Friday September 28, 2012 1:41 SNAndyHoag
1:53
And we're back. First witness is Nate Gobeyn from Gobeyn's towing in Bridgeport. He towed Webb's vehicle from the scene.
Friday September 28, 2012 1:53 SNAndyHoag
1:55
Gobeyn says only Waterman was there when he arrived.
Friday September 28, 2012 1:55 SNAndyHoag
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To tow vehicle, had to position it different to gain access to front of vehicle. To do so, had to get in driver's seat.
Friday September 28, 2012 1:56 SNAndyHoag
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Gobeyn: Waterman told him there was no "holds" on vehicle, so no need for gloves. Doesn't believe he put gloves on.
Friday September 28, 2012 1:57 SNAndyHoag
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Gobeyn: Only got in front seat at time. When he got vehicle to lot, saw cord still hanging, and w/o "holds" on the vehicle ...
Friday September 28, 2012 1:59 SNAndyHoag
1:59
... decided to remove cord so family didn't have to see it. Had gloves on but couldn't loosen knot, so took gloves off to take it down.
Friday September 28, 2012 1:59 SNAndyHoag
2:01
Gobeyn: Placed cord in backseat. Next morning, Gary Ginther from MSP crime lab called between 6:30-7 a.m.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:01 SNAndyHoag
2:01
Gobeyn: Ginther told him to have it towed to MSP garage, not to touch vehicle.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:01 SNAndyHoag
2:03
Stroud is done with questioning. O'Farrell up now.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:03 SNAndyHoag
2:05
Gobeyn: Didn't have to move vehicle once he unhooked it at lot.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:05 SNAndyHoag
2:09
Nothing further from Gobeyn. Next witness is James Popp, who towed the Aztek to the MSP garage.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:09 SNAndyHoag
2:11
Popp: Had no reason to enter or touch vehicle and didn't enter or touch vehicle.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:11 SNAndyHoag
2:11
@SNAndyHoag what does Jeremy or the other guy coupon have to do with the case
Friday September 28, 2012 2:11 KellySchmidt18
2:12
@KellySchmidt18 Still trying to figure that out. O'Farrell's questions about them have been brief.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:12 SNAndyHoag
2:12
@SNAndyHoag wow no questions from o Farrel to the tow company! ?
Friday September 28, 2012 2:12 kizziem34
2:13
@kizziem34 He had a couple, but nothing new and/or of significance
Friday September 28, 2012 2:13 SNAndyHoag
2:13
Popp: Also towed Bluew's police cruiser to MSP crime lab.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:13 SNAndyHoag
2:15
Stroud is done, now O'Farrell, who asks when he was contacted by the police and given subpoena, which he got couple weeks ago.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:15 SNAndyHoag
2:16
I think O'Farrell's point with that question will be to show that this part of the investigation wasn't done until just recently.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:16 SNAndyHoag
2:16
@SNAndyHoag As I am new to the whole twitter thing, I am curious as to why I can't view your responses to other peoples questions?
Friday September 28, 2012 2:16 teneyuque20
2:17
.@teneyuque20 it's because you don't follow those people. I keep meaning to place a period in front of names so everybody can see ...
Friday September 28, 2012 2:17 SNAndyHoag
2:17
.@teneyuque20 ... the responses but I keep forgetting. Sorry for that.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:17 SNAndyHoag
2:18
Popp is done, and the next witness is former BV Police Chief Brian Booker.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:18 SNAndyHoag
2:19
Booker: When hired as chief, Bluew was "one-man detective unit"
Friday September 28, 2012 2:19 SNAndyHoag
2:20
Booker: Bluew returned to third shift patrol after his stint as Tittabawassee Township police chief
Friday September 28, 2012 2:20 SNAndyHoag
2:20
Booker: Received phone call from Waterman, who had just left Webbs' house and "figured he had more than just a suicide."
Friday September 28, 2012 2:20 SNAndyHoag
2:22
Booker: Told Waterman to go back to scene, "re-establish" scene. He contacted MSP Lt. Jenkins, Thomas, Stroud. Got to scene at approx. 2:45.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:22 SNAndyHoag
2:23
Booker: When he got there, Waterman had re-established scene. Patterson there too, Booker says. Patterson hadn't mentioned being there then.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:23 SNAndyHoag
2:24
Booker: Patterson told him about his role. He waited until D/Sgts. Ogg and Teddy arrived, left about 6 a.m.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:24 SNAndyHoag
2:25
Booker says he saw physically printed photographs, but Waterman didn't testify that happened yet. They were on digital camera.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:25 SNAndyHoag
2:26
Friday September 28, 2012 2:26 SNAndyHoag
2:27
Booker: When he left, crime lab not there. Came back at 7 a.m.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:27 SNAndyHoag
2:28
Booker: About 5:30 a.m., Bluew showed up in patrol car. Booker walked to him instead of letting Bluew getting out.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:28 SNAndyHoag
2:28
Booker: Bluew said, "What's up chief?" Booker said, "I don't know Ken, you tell me." Booker asked if he knew Webb and ...
Friday September 28, 2012 2:28 SNAndyHoag
2:29
... Bluew said he knew her but wasn't the father of the baby. Booker says he hadn't asked who the father was.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:29 SNAndyHoag
2:30
Booker: Bluew said he had "nothing to hide," and Booker said that was "good," because the investigators had questions. Bluew said, "OK."
Friday September 28, 2012 2:30 SNAndyHoag
2:30
Booker: Bluew said he knew Webb for about 10 years but wouldn't jeopardize his marriage by "dealing with her."
Friday September 28, 2012 2:30 SNAndyHoag
2:32
Booker: Returned to BVPD, saw Bluew in lunch room, out of uniform.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:32 SNAndyHoag
2:33
Booker: Walked scene with MSP crime lab personnel, who showed him certain evidence.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:33 SNAndyHoag
2:33
Booker: Spoke with Bluew on Sept. 1. Bluew called him via cellphone, said, "you always been straight with me, and I know this ...
Friday September 28, 2012 2:33 SNAndyHoag
2:34
... against protocol, but I need to know what they know." He repeated the question to Bluew, because "I couldn't believe ...
Friday September 28, 2012 2:34 SNAndyHoag
2:36
Stroud asks Booker about PPCT, or Pressure Point Control Tactics, used to subdue suspects.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:36 SNAndyHoag
2:37
Booker: Bluew was being trained to be a PPCT instructor for BVPD.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:37 SNAndyHoag
2:37
Stroud is done, now O'Farrell.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:37 SNAndyHoag
2:39
O'Farrell points out that all officers go through similar PPCT training.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:39 SNAndyHoag
2:40
Booker: Believes Bluew was already certified in PPCT in years past but needed to be re-certified to be a trainer.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:40 SNAndyHoag
2:40
RT @nessarae33: @SNAndyHoag do you knoe how many more witnesses they have
Friday September 28, 2012 2:40 SNAndyHoag
2:41
.@nessarae33 I don't. Their witness list had 21 who they "intended" to call, but they've already called numerous people not among those 21.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:41 SNAndyHoag
2:42
Booker: Bluew was an "excellent detective." Recommended him for the Titt. Twp. chief job. Wanted to come back to BV cuz of slower pace.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:42 SNAndyHoag
2:43
@SusanneMackley I did. It was "...he was asking me that question."
Friday September 28, 2012 2:43 SNAndyHoag
2:46
O'Farrell getting more ammo to attack the investigation, as Booker agrees that having suspect on scene would contaminate it.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:46 SNAndyHoag
2:47
Booker: When Bluew asked about what the investigators knew, he also asked whether he would be suspended. Booker said yes.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:47 SNAndyHoag
2:47
Booker: Bluew suspended indefinitely Sept. 2, remains on that status.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:47 SNAndyHoag
2:47
@SNAndyHoag Can you mike the wittnesses
Friday September 28, 2012 2:47 GeneNoack
2:48
.@GeneNoack Unfortunately, no. Our equipment isn't exactly TV news equipment. This has shown us we need an upgrade.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:48 SNAndyHoag
2:48
And Booker is done. Next witness is MSP D/Sgt. Allan Ogg, one of the two lead investigators.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:48 SNAndyHoag
2:58
Ogg going over some basics. He and Teddy went to the BVPD "to conduct further investigation there" and contact Bluew.
Friday September 28, 2012 2:58 SNAndyHoag
3:00
Ogg: Spoke with Bluew, interviewed him between 6:30-7. He was no longer in police uniform.
Friday September 28, 2012 3:00 SNAndyHoag
3:02
Ogg: Questioning primarily done by Teddy. Interview lasted "in excess of 2 hours."
Friday September 28, 2012 3:02 SNAndyHoag
3:06
Ogg: Bluew had an abrasion of sorts under eye. Eye itself was bloodshot, appeared to be watering slightly. "Most obvious thing" noticed.
Friday September 28, 2012 3:06 SNAndyHoag
3:06
Friday September 28, 2012 3:06 SNAndyHoag
3:07
Ogg: Bluew had injury on top of head, had four red marks on forearm. Band aid on top of right index finger.
Friday September 28, 2012 3:07 SNAndyHoag
3:13
Ogg: Retrieved a "buccal swab" from Bluew, to obtain a "known DNA sample."
Friday September 28, 2012 3:13 SNAndyHoag
3:13
@SNAndyHoag are those the pictures being showed. of the marks
Friday September 28, 2012 3:13 SabrinaCabello
3:13
.@SabrinaCabello yes, sorry. Should have mentioned that.
Friday September 28, 2012 3:13 SNAndyHoag
3:15
The forearm injury appears to be as if someone were to dig four fingernails into the arm.
Friday September 28, 2012 3:15 SNAndyHoag
3:15
@SNAndyHoag where did bluew say he received these injuries from ?
Friday September 28, 2012 3:15 McMullenMegan
3:17
Ogg: Bluew consented to have his uniform taken for examination.
Friday September 28, 2012 3:17 SNAndyHoag
3:19
Ogg describes the injury to the top of Bluew's head: pic.twitter.com/umU3MDzq
Friday September 28, 2012 3:19 SNAndyHoag
3:20
The injury to Bluew's right eye: pic.twitter.com/7rYfpXKJ
Friday September 28, 2012 3:20 SNAndyHoag
3:21
Ogg: Bluew gave them gym bag w/ uniform he said he had on that night. Further inspection of his truck showed a uniform he said was old.
Friday September 28, 2012 3:21 SNAndyHoag
3:24
Ogg: That following Sunday, went to MSP crime lab, examined Bluew's uniform. Pants were pressed as if not worn.
Friday September 28, 2012 3:24 SNAndyHoag
3:24
Ogg: Smelled underarm of t-shirt, smelled like detergent or fabric softener.
Friday September 28, 2012 3:24 SNAndyHoag
3:26
And we're going to break for the day. Trial will resume at 9 a.m. Tuesday.
Friday September 28, 2012 3:26 SNAndyHoag
3:27
@SNAndyHoag im sorry, i misunderstood this..the uniform he gave ended up NOT being the one he wore the nigh before? Sorry to use up tweets
Friday September 28, 2012 3:27 nessarae33
3:28
.@nessarae33 It certainly doesn't appear that way.
Friday September 28, 2012 3:28 SNAndyHoag
3:28
Friday September 28, 2012 3:28 SNAndyHoag
3:28
RT @Sean_L_Fitz: @SNAndyHoag is the clean smelling uniform the one in the yellow bag or the one that Bluew claimed was old and too small?
Friday September 28, 2012 3:28 SNAndyHoag
3:28
.@Sean_L_Fitz the one in the yellow bag, the one he said he wore that night.
Friday September 28, 2012 3:28 SNAndyHoag
3:29
@SNAndyHoag awesome job!! thx for your tweets! have a great weekend
Friday September 28, 2012 3:29 nessarae33
3:29
Friday September 28, 2012 3:29 SNAndyHoag
3:30
As usual, going to close the MLive chat. Feel free to tweet questions/comments on me or post them on MLive.
Friday September 28, 2012 3:30 SNAndyHoag
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