Friday October 5, 2012
9:12 |  Andy Hoag@SNAndyHoag  RT "@McMullenMegan: this is important bc he had always denied being the father correct?" >> he did at first, then finally admitted to ... Friday October 5, 2012 9:12 SNAndyHoag |
9:13 | .@McMullenMegan having sex with her at the very end of his interview. Don't think he ever admitted paternity, though. Friday October 5, 2012 9:13 SNAndyHoag |
9:14 | Is it Friday already? This week has flown by, what with all the complex crime scene and DNA testimony. Waiting to get started. Friday October 5, 2012 9:14 SNAndyHoag |
9:28 | RT "@taralynn1030: Yesterday was a very confusing day. Thanks for making it easier to understand!" >> you're welcome! Friday October 5, 2012 9:28 SNAndyHoag |
9:29 | RT "@Jaynie1981: was wondering if they ever looked at Bluew's moms or siblings computers (for the suicide note)." >> those weren't examined. Friday October 5, 2012 9:29 SNAndyHoag |
9:30 | RT "@Katelvsnyy: is there a link to watch live today?" >> there will be once we get started Friday October 5, 2012 9:30 SNAndyHoag |
9:35 | Bluew has arrived. Should be getting started soon. Friday October 5, 2012 9:35 SNAndyHoag |
9:38 | And here we. Lisa Ramos from the MSP still on the stand. Friday October 5, 2012 9:38 SNAndyHoag |
9:40 | Ramos: Three more samples from autopsy with mixed results. First, Webb's bruise on right inner arm. Matches Webb and "minor male donor." Friday October 5, 2012 9:40 SNAndyHoag |
9:43 | ... probability of donor being someone other than Bluew was 1 in 7.1 billion for Caucasian population. Now to left arm bruise. Friday October 5, 2012 9:43 SNAndyHoag |
9:44 | Again matches Webb and probability that other donor isn't Bluew is 1 in 1.2 trillion for Caucasian. Friday October 5, 2012 9:44 SNAndyHoag |
9:45 | Now onto mixed samples from Webb's vehicle. First, socket of extension cord: "major DNA types matched that of Kenneth Bluew." Friday October 5, 2012 9:45 SNAndyHoag |
9:46 | Live video: mlive.com/news/saginaw/i… Friday October 5, 2012 9:46 SNAndyHoag |
9:47 | Ramos: Not enough from minor donor on socket of cord to make comparisons. Next, bed sheet in backseat: major donor matched Bluew. Friday October 5, 2012 9:47 SNAndyHoag |
9:48 | Next, interior driver's side door. Ramos: Major DNA types matched Bluew. Not enough from minor donor to compare. Friday October 5, 2012 9:48 SNAndyHoag |
9:48 | Next, 3 o'clock position of steering wheel. Ramos: Major types matched Bluew. Again, not enough from minor donor. Friday October 5, 2012 9:48 SNAndyHoag |
9:50 | Ramos: Exterior driver's side front door, same result - matches Bluew. Next, gear selector. Same result, except Webb could not ... Friday October 5, 2012 9:50 SNAndyHoag |
9:51 | ... be excluded as minor donor. Next, smear on rear passenger side window. Ramos: Neither Bluew nor Webb could be excluded. Friday October 5, 2012 9:51 SNAndyHoag |
9:52 | Ramos testifies to her results: pic.twitter.com/g79awUro  Friday October 5, 2012 9:52 SNAndyHoag |
9:53 | Next, 11 o'clock position of steering wheel: matches Bluew. Webb could not be excluded as minor donor. Friday October 5, 2012 9:53 SNAndyHoag |
9:54 | If anybody is having issues with live feed, @Bobjohnson1word says to refresh page. Friday October 5, 2012 9:54 SNAndyHoag |
9:55 | Now to Bluew's clothes. Tactical vest: on lower right side, probability that it is somebody other than Bluew is 1 in 15.4 quadrillion. Friday October 5, 2012 9:55 SNAndyHoag |
9:58 | Ramos: Stain on left side of vest matches Bluew. Same with stain in middle of vest, except it was a mixture and minor donor too small. Friday October 5, 2012 9:58 SNAndyHoag |
9:59 | And ... whew. That's all of the test results. Except one that wasn't part of PowerPoint presentation: stain on Bluew's vehicle partition. Friday October 5, 2012 9:59 SNAndyHoag |
9:59 | Ramos: Was able to exclude both Bluew and Webb from being donor from that stain. Friday October 5, 2012 9:59 SNAndyHoag |
10:01 | And Stroud is done. O'Farrell is up, focusing first on the tactical vest. Ramos' report excludes Webb from any stain on body armor. Friday October 5, 2012 10:01 SNAndyHoag |
10:04 | O'Farrell pointing out that Ramos cannot independently determine sources of stains. That was done by Bowman. Friday October 5, 2012 10:04 SNAndyHoag |
10:05 | O'Farrell and Ramos review Ramos' report: pic.twitter.com/RKd6FzpS  Friday October 5, 2012 10:05 SNAndyHoag |
10:06 | O'Farrell again brings up "touch DNA," basically same concept/notion he was talking about with yesterday's mosquito hypothetical. Friday October 5, 2012 10:06 SNAndyHoag |
10:07 | Instead of the mosquito hypothetical, O'Farrell this time uses "inadvertently" wiping one's forehead. Friday October 5, 2012 10:07 SNAndyHoag |
10:08 | Dawn Webb, Jennifer Webb's mother, watches on: pic.twitter.com/1Xbv3YvI  Friday October 5, 2012 10:08 SNAndyHoag |
10:09 | O'Farrell points out that Ramos cannot determine how old blood stains are. Friday October 5, 2012 10:09 SNAndyHoag |
10:13 | O'Farrell is confirming that Webb was excluded as being donor from vest, shirt, pants. Friday October 5, 2012 10:13 SNAndyHoag |
10:13 | The theory there could be that Bluew bleeding on his own clothes proves nothing. Friday October 5, 2012 10:13 SNAndyHoag |
10:15 | As he did with Bowman, O'Farrell confirming that if samples/stains already contaminated before they got to Ramos, cant do anything about it. Friday October 5, 2012 10:15 SNAndyHoag |
10:17 | Nothing further from O'Farrell or Stroud. Next witness is MSP's Gary Ginther, fingerprint expert. Friday October 5, 2012 10:17 SNAndyHoag |
10:19 | A "In Memory" bracelet: pic.twitter.com/T4qI3wGu  Friday October 5, 2012 10:19 SNAndyHoag |
10:20 | Ginther is a "latent print examiner." Has to go through the education/professional background to establish himself as expert. Friday October 5, 2012 10:20 SNAndyHoag |
10:21 | RT @book_worm82: @SNAndyHoag that may be the case, but how can he explain his DNA being in the blood stains in her vehicle? Friday October 5, 2012 10:21 SNAndyHoag |
10:21 | .@book_worm82 O'Farrell said in his opening argument that those stains could have been left during Bluew's investigation of the death. Friday October 5, 2012 10:21 SNAndyHoag |
10:23 | Ginther estimates he's examined upward of a million fingerprints. Has testified as expert between 225-300 times. Friday October 5, 2012 10:23 SNAndyHoag |
10:23 | My @MLive colleague @SNAndyHoag really does a great job of using Twitter for his coverage. I feel like I'm there. Give that man a raise! Friday October 5, 2012 10:23 WEKetchum |
10:24 | Ginther will be considered an expert. Now begins to testify about how to analyze fingerprints. I won't recap this too much. Friday October 5, 2012 10:24 SNAndyHoag |
10:32 | Fingerprint analysis can be complex, but Ginther did a solid job of explaining it in the simplest of terms. Now onto the investigation. Friday October 5, 2012 10:32 SNAndyHoag |
10:33 | Ginther explains fingerprints: pic.twitter.com/iBF5HRM7  Friday October 5, 2012 10:33 SNAndyHoag |
10:33 | Ginther testifies, with Bluew's fingerprint card in the forefront: pic.twitter.com/bJmxgbJG  Friday October 5, 2012 10:33 SNAndyHoag |
10:34 | Ginther was the one who found the silver charm, which appeared to come from Webb's necklace, on the Wastewater Treatment Plant driveway. Friday October 5, 2012 10:34 SNAndyHoag |
10:39 | Ginther explains the location of the silver charm and blood stain: pic.twitter.com/limrMasU  Friday October 5, 2012 10:39 SNAndyHoag |
10:39 | Now onto the bloody fingerprint on the rear door of the passenger side of Webb's vehicle. Friday October 5, 2012 10:39 SNAndyHoag |
10:41 | Ginther: The fingerprint was left just above and slightly to the left of the door handle. Friday October 5, 2012 10:41 SNAndyHoag |
10:49 | Ginther shows a blown-up image of the fingerprint lifted from the vehicle door: pic.twitter.com/vdJmsYYh  Friday October 5, 2012 10:49 SNAndyHoag |
10:50 | Ginther identified Bluew's prints from September 2011 - in a funny moment, he accidentally said "1911" - as well as prints from this year. Friday October 5, 2012 10:50 SNAndyHoag |
10:52 | Ginther: On Sept. 6, identified print as being Bluew's. The print from the car has an area that appears to be injured to the point ... Friday October 5, 2012 10:52 SNAndyHoag |
10:54 | ... that there is no ridge structure there. Now comparing that missing part to Bluew's print, "shows same injured area." Friday October 5, 2012 10:54 SNAndyHoag |
10:57 | Ginther holds up Bluew's fingerprint card: pic.twitter.com/YIThuOSN  Friday October 5, 2012 10:57 SNAndyHoag |
10:58 | Ginther: "That latent print was made by the right index finger of Kenneth Bluew." Friday October 5, 2012 10:58 SNAndyHoag |
11:02 | Ginther: Latent prints left on Aztek's right quarter panel, right top of hood were made by Bluew's left palm, other fingers. Friday October 5, 2012 11:02 SNAndyHoag |
11:06 | Now onto the suicide note. It was purple coloring on it from a chemical designed to show fingerprints. Friday October 5, 2012 11:06 SNAndyHoag |
11:10 | *has, not was. Sorry. Ginther: Found 14 latent prints on backside of note, all Bluew. On face of note, no prints. Friday October 5, 2012 11:10 SNAndyHoag |
11:11 | Stroud confirms that Ginther found no prints belonging to Webb. Friday October 5, 2012 11:11 SNAndyHoag |
11:12 | Ginther discussed the prints found on the note: pic.twitter.com/2o8GHUZR  Friday October 5, 2012 11:12 SNAndyHoag |
11:13 | Stroud has Ginther point out that one of the prints on the letter is Bluew's right index finger. No injury present. Friday October 5, 2012 11:13 SNAndyHoag |
11:14 | In other words, Bluew touched that piece of paper before his finger was injured. Friday October 5, 2012 11:14 SNAndyHoag |
11:16 | Stroud has Ginther confirm just that. Friday October 5, 2012 11:16 SNAndyHoag |
11:20 | RT "@EwaldSandy: looks like the deal was just sealed! What was Bleew's reaction?" >> just more note taking. Friday October 5, 2012 11:20 SNAndyHoag |
11:22 | Ginther identifies which finger left each of the 14 prints. Now we're taking a break. Friday October 5, 2012 11:22 SNAndyHoag |
11:38 | RT "@BeHemker: What if any was the reaction to new prints developed on the document?" >> no reaction. I believe it's been touched in trial. Friday October 5, 2012 11:38 SNAndyHoag |
11:39 | RT "@t_ntskg5: has he shown any reaction through any of this?" >> no, but again, he's already been aware of what the testimony would be. Friday October 5, 2012 11:39 SNAndyHoag |
11:44 | And we're back. O'Farrell now on cross-examination, pointing out that sometimes only partial prints are found, can't be compared. Friday October 5, 2012 11:44 SNAndyHoag |
11:46 | Ginther: Partial prints on suicide note that weren't suitable for comparison value. Same with vehicle. Friday October 5, 2012 11:46 SNAndyHoag |
11:48 | Ginther: 3 prints on vehicle that didn't match any prints used for comparison. Results inconclusive, but neither Bluew nor Webb excluded. Friday October 5, 2012 11:48 SNAndyHoag |
11:50 | Ginther: Print from Webb's right palm found on exterior passenger side rear door, on metal portion between window and door. Friday October 5, 2012 11:50 SNAndyHoag |
11:54 | Ginther: "Possible" to put finger into a blood spot and leave a print. Depends on volume of blood. Friday October 5, 2012 11:54 SNAndyHoag |
11:55 | O'Farrell talking about success rate of finding print, makes a timely @MiguelCabrera mention w/ rate being less than Cabby's batting avg. Friday October 5, 2012 11:55 SNAndyHoag |
11:57 | Ginther says that low success rate is usually in reference to firearms. Friday October 5, 2012 11:57 SNAndyHoag |
11:58 | O'Farrell points out Ginther can't exclude Webb from touching suicide note paper, can't determine when Bluew touched paper ... Friday October 5, 2012 11:58 SNAndyHoag |
11:58 | ... relative to when the suicide note was typed and printed out. Friday October 5, 2012 11:58 SNAndyHoag |
12:01 | O'Farrell done, now Stroud back up, reiterating no bloody print on suicide note, so it was before injury. Friday October 5, 2012 12:01 SNAndyHoag |
12:02 | Ginther: Bloody print on door was a bloody finger touching the car, not a finger touching a blood spot on car. Friday October 5, 2012 12:02 SNAndyHoag |
12:04 | And Ginther is done, and we're going to lunch. Friday October 5, 2012 12:04 SNAndyHoag |
12:17 | RT "@nichol0715: didn't they say Jenny's print was NOT on the note?" >> they couldn't identify any prints as hers. Friday October 5, 2012 12:17 SNAndyHoag |
12:18 | .@nichol0715 all those that were of enough quality were identified as Bluew's. There's partials that couldn't be compared to anything. Friday October 5, 2012 12:18 SNAndyHoag |
12:19 | RT @MelanieBierlein: @SNAndyHoag Where was the suicide note found? Can O'Farrell theorize that prints came from being on the scene the ... Friday October 5, 2012 12:19 SNAndyHoag |
12:19 | .@MelanieBierlein Bluew said he found it on top of her purse. That theory wouldn't work because Bluew had a band-aid on by that point. Friday October 5, 2012 12:19 SNAndyHoag |
1:17 | My morning recap: mlive.com/news/saginaw/i… Friday October 5, 2012 1:17 SNAndyHoag |
1:54 | We're back, no jury yet. Mike Thomas is asking Jackson to allow the jury to go visit the scene. O'Farrell is agreeing w/ the request. Friday October 5, 2012 1:54 SNAndyHoag |
1:54 | Jackson will allow the jury visit. Stroud made copies for the jurors of an aerial photograph, already in evidence, of the area. Friday October 5, 2012 1:54 SNAndyHoag |
1:55 | Jackson reading the instruction he will give to the jury. Jurors will be given 30 minutes, can't be talked to, can't talk with each other. Friday October 5, 2012 1:55 SNAndyHoag |
1:56 | They'll be going by bus. Bluew is waiving his right to be at the visit. Friday October 5, 2012 1:56 SNAndyHoag |
1:57 | RT @tvalentine75: @SNAndyHoag will you be going with them? Friday October 5, 2012 1:57 SNAndyHoag |
1:57 | .@tvalentine75 I don't know yet :) Judge didn't mention whether we can/can't go. I do know we definitely can't take photos or video. Friday October 5, 2012 1:57 SNAndyHoag |
1:59 | Jackson is reading the instructions to the jury now. Friday October 5, 2012 1:59 SNAndyHoag |
2:00 | And now the jury is walking back out of the courtroom. Friday October 5, 2012 2:00 SNAndyHoag |
2:06 | I will not be going to the scene. Friday October 5, 2012 2:06 SNAndyHoag |
2:07 | As I mentioned before, we took photos of the scene a couple weeks back: photos.mlive.com/4473/gallery/j… Friday October 5, 2012 2:07 SNAndyHoag |
2:08 | We're being told that when the jury returns, they will enter the courtroom, and the trial will be recessed until Tuesday morning. Friday October 5, 2012 2:08 SNAndyHoag |
2:09 | So I will be closing the MLive chat window. As always, anybody with questions can tweet at me or post them on MLive. Friday October 5, 2012 2:09 SNAndyHoag |
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