Ken Bluew Trial Day 8
RT "@McMullenMegan: this is important bc he had always denied being the father correct?" >> he did at first, then finally admitted to ...
Friday October 5, 2012 9:12 SNAndyHoag
.@McMullenMegan having sex with her at the very end of his interview. Don't think he ever admitted paternity, though.
Friday October 5, 2012 9:13 SNAndyHoag
Is it Friday already? This week has flown by, what with all the complex crime scene and DNA testimony. Waiting to get started.
Friday October 5, 2012 9:14 SNAndyHoag
RT "@taralynn1030: Yesterday was a very confusing day. Thanks for making it easier to understand!" >> you're welcome!
Friday October 5, 2012 9:28 SNAndyHoag
RT "@Jaynie1981: was wondering if they ever looked at Bluew's moms or siblings computers (for the suicide note)." >> those weren't examined.
Friday October 5, 2012 9:29 SNAndyHoag
RT "@Katelvsnyy: is there a link to watch live today?" >> there will be once we get started
Friday October 5, 2012 9:30 SNAndyHoag
Bluew has arrived. Should be getting started soon.
Friday October 5, 2012 9:35 SNAndyHoag
And here we. Lisa Ramos from the MSP still on the stand.
Friday October 5, 2012 9:38 SNAndyHoag
Ramos: Three more samples from autopsy with mixed results. First, Webb's bruise on right inner arm. Matches Webb and "minor male donor."
Friday October 5, 2012 9:40 SNAndyHoag
... probability of donor being someone other than Bluew was 1 in 7.1 billion for Caucasian population. Now to left arm bruise.
Friday October 5, 2012 9:43 SNAndyHoag
Again matches Webb and probability that other donor isn't Bluew is 1 in 1.2 trillion for Caucasian.
Friday October 5, 2012 9:44 SNAndyHoag
Now onto mixed samples from Webb's vehicle. First, socket of extension cord: "major DNA types matched that of Kenneth Bluew."
Friday October 5, 2012 9:45 SNAndyHoag
Friday October 5, 2012 9:46 SNAndyHoag
Ramos: Not enough from minor donor on socket of cord to make comparisons. Next, bed sheet in backseat: major donor matched Bluew.
Friday October 5, 2012 9:47 SNAndyHoag
Next, interior driver's side door. Ramos: Major DNA types matched Bluew. Not enough from minor donor to compare.
Friday October 5, 2012 9:48 SNAndyHoag
Next, 3 o'clock position of steering wheel. Ramos: Major types matched Bluew. Again, not enough from minor donor.
Friday October 5, 2012 9:48 SNAndyHoag
Ramos: Exterior driver's side front door, same result - matches Bluew. Next, gear selector. Same result, except Webb could not ...
Friday October 5, 2012 9:50 SNAndyHoag
... be excluded as minor donor. Next, smear on rear passenger side window. Ramos: Neither Bluew nor Webb could be excluded.
Friday October 5, 2012 9:51 SNAndyHoag
Ramos testifies to her results:
Friday October 5, 2012 9:52 SNAndyHoag
Next, 11 o'clock position of steering wheel: matches Bluew. Webb could not be excluded as minor donor.
Friday October 5, 2012 9:53 SNAndyHoag
If anybody is having issues with live feed, @Bobjohnson1word says to refresh page.
Friday October 5, 2012 9:54 SNAndyHoag
Now to Bluew's clothes. Tactical vest: on lower right side, probability that it is somebody other than Bluew is 1 in 15.4 quadrillion.
Friday October 5, 2012 9:55 SNAndyHoag
Ramos: Stain on left side of vest matches Bluew. Same with stain in middle of vest, except it was a mixture and minor donor too small.
Friday October 5, 2012 9:58 SNAndyHoag
And ... whew. That's all of the test results. Except one that wasn't part of PowerPoint presentation: stain on Bluew's vehicle partition.
Friday October 5, 2012 9:59 SNAndyHoag
Ramos: Was able to exclude both Bluew and Webb from being donor from that stain.
Friday October 5, 2012 9:59 SNAndyHoag
And Stroud is done. O'Farrell is up, focusing first on the tactical vest. Ramos' report excludes Webb from any stain on body armor.
Friday October 5, 2012 10:01 SNAndyHoag
O'Farrell pointing out that Ramos cannot independently determine sources of stains. That was done by Bowman.
Friday October 5, 2012 10:04 SNAndyHoag
O'Farrell and Ramos review Ramos' report:
Friday October 5, 2012 10:05 SNAndyHoag
O'Farrell again brings up "touch DNA," basically same concept/notion he was talking about with yesterday's mosquito hypothetical.
Friday October 5, 2012 10:06 SNAndyHoag
Instead of the mosquito hypothetical, O'Farrell this time uses "inadvertently" wiping one's forehead.
Friday October 5, 2012 10:07 SNAndyHoag
Dawn Webb, Jennifer Webb's mother, watches on:
Friday October 5, 2012 10:08 SNAndyHoag
O'Farrell points out that Ramos cannot determine how old blood stains are.
Friday October 5, 2012 10:09 SNAndyHoag
O'Farrell is confirming that Webb was excluded as being donor from vest, shirt, pants.
Friday October 5, 2012 10:13 SNAndyHoag
The theory there could be that Bluew bleeding on his own clothes proves nothing.
Friday October 5, 2012 10:13 SNAndyHoag
As he did with Bowman, O'Farrell confirming that if samples/stains already contaminated before they got to Ramos, cant do anything about it.
Friday October 5, 2012 10:15 SNAndyHoag
Nothing further from O'Farrell or Stroud. Next witness is MSP's Gary Ginther, fingerprint expert.
Friday October 5, 2012 10:17 SNAndyHoag
Friday October 5, 2012 10:19 SNAndyHoag
Ginther is a "latent print examiner." Has to go through the education/professional background to establish himself as expert.
Friday October 5, 2012 10:20 SNAndyHoag
RT @book_worm82: @SNAndyHoag that may be the case, but how can he explain his DNA being in the blood stains in her vehicle?
Friday October 5, 2012 10:21 SNAndyHoag
.@book_worm82 O'Farrell said in his opening argument that those stains could have been left during Bluew's investigation of the death.
Friday October 5, 2012 10:21 SNAndyHoag
Ginther estimates he's examined upward of a million fingerprints. Has testified as expert between 225-300 times.
Friday October 5, 2012 10:23 SNAndyHoag
My @MLive colleague @SNAndyHoag really does a great job of using Twitter for his coverage. I feel like I'm there. Give that man a raise!
Friday October 5, 2012 10:23 WEKetchum
Ginther will be considered an expert. Now begins to testify about how to analyze fingerprints. I won't recap this too much.
Friday October 5, 2012 10:24 SNAndyHoag
Fingerprint analysis can be complex, but Ginther did a solid job of explaining it in the simplest of terms. Now onto the investigation.
Friday October 5, 2012 10:32 SNAndyHoag
Ginther explains fingerprints:
Friday October 5, 2012 10:33 SNAndyHoag
Ginther testifies, with Bluew's fingerprint card in the forefront:
Friday October 5, 2012 10:33 SNAndyHoag
Ginther was the one who found the silver charm, which appeared to come from Webb's necklace, on the Wastewater Treatment Plant driveway.
Friday October 5, 2012 10:34 SNAndyHoag
Ginther explains the location of the silver charm and blood stain:
Friday October 5, 2012 10:39 SNAndyHoag
Now onto the bloody fingerprint on the rear door of the passenger side of Webb's vehicle.
Friday October 5, 2012 10:39 SNAndyHoag
Ginther: The fingerprint was left just above and slightly to the left of the door handle.
Friday October 5, 2012 10:41 SNAndyHoag
Ginther shows a blown-up image of the fingerprint lifted from the vehicle door:
Friday October 5, 2012 10:49 SNAndyHoag
Ginther identified Bluew's prints from September 2011 - in a funny moment, he accidentally said "1911" - as well as prints from this year.
Friday October 5, 2012 10:50 SNAndyHoag
Ginther: On Sept. 6, identified print as being Bluew's. The print from the car has an area that appears to be injured to the point ...
Friday October 5, 2012 10:52 SNAndyHoag
... that there is no ridge structure there. Now comparing that missing part to Bluew's print, "shows same injured area."
Friday October 5, 2012 10:54 SNAndyHoag
Ginther holds up Bluew's fingerprint card:
Friday October 5, 2012 10:57 SNAndyHoag
Ginther: "That latent print was made by the right index finger of Kenneth Bluew."
Friday October 5, 2012 10:58 SNAndyHoag
Ginther: Latent prints left on Aztek's right quarter panel, right top of hood were made by Bluew's left palm, other fingers.
Friday October 5, 2012 11:02 SNAndyHoag
Now onto the suicide note. It was purple coloring on it from a chemical designed to show fingerprints.
Friday October 5, 2012 11:06 SNAndyHoag
*has, not was. Sorry. Ginther: Found 14 latent prints on backside of note, all Bluew. On face of note, no prints.
Friday October 5, 2012 11:10 SNAndyHoag
Stroud confirms that Ginther found no prints belonging to Webb.
Friday October 5, 2012 11:11 SNAndyHoag
Ginther discussed the prints found on the note:
Friday October 5, 2012 11:12 SNAndyHoag
Stroud has Ginther point out that one of the prints on the letter is Bluew's right index finger. No injury present.
Friday October 5, 2012 11:13 SNAndyHoag
In other words, Bluew touched that piece of paper before his finger was injured.
Friday October 5, 2012 11:14 SNAndyHoag
Stroud has Ginther confirm just that.
Friday October 5, 2012 11:16 SNAndyHoag
RT "@EwaldSandy: looks like the deal was just sealed! What was Bleew's reaction?" >> just more note taking.
Friday October 5, 2012 11:20 SNAndyHoag
Ginther identifies which finger left each of the 14 prints. Now we're taking a break.
Friday October 5, 2012 11:22 SNAndyHoag
RT "@BeHemker: What if any was the reaction to new prints developed on the document?" >> no reaction. I believe it's been touched in trial.
Friday October 5, 2012 11:38 SNAndyHoag
RT "@t_ntskg5: has he shown any reaction through any of this?" >> no, but again, he's already been aware of what the testimony would be.
Friday October 5, 2012 11:39 SNAndyHoag
And we're back. O'Farrell now on cross-examination, pointing out that sometimes only partial prints are found, can't be compared.
Friday October 5, 2012 11:44 SNAndyHoag
Ginther: Partial prints on suicide note that weren't suitable for comparison value. Same with vehicle.
Friday October 5, 2012 11:46 SNAndyHoag
Ginther: 3 prints on vehicle that didn't match any prints used for comparison. Results inconclusive, but neither Bluew nor Webb excluded.
Friday October 5, 2012 11:48 SNAndyHoag
Ginther: Print from Webb's right palm found on exterior passenger side rear door, on metal portion between window and door.
Friday October 5, 2012 11:50 SNAndyHoag
Ginther: "Possible" to put finger into a blood spot and leave a print. Depends on volume of blood.
Friday October 5, 2012 11:54 SNAndyHoag
O'Farrell talking about success rate of finding print, makes a timely @MiguelCabrera mention w/ rate being less than Cabby's batting avg.
Friday October 5, 2012 11:55 SNAndyHoag
Ginther says that low success rate is usually in reference to firearms.
Friday October 5, 2012 11:57 SNAndyHoag
O'Farrell points out Ginther can't exclude Webb from touching suicide note paper, can't determine when Bluew touched paper ...
Friday October 5, 2012 11:58 SNAndyHoag
... relative to when the suicide note was typed and printed out.
Friday October 5, 2012 11:58 SNAndyHoag
O'Farrell done, now Stroud back up, reiterating no bloody print on suicide note, so it was before injury.
Friday October 5, 2012 12:01 SNAndyHoag
Ginther: Bloody print on door was a bloody finger touching the car, not a finger touching a blood spot on car.
Friday October 5, 2012 12:02 SNAndyHoag
And Ginther is done, and we're going to lunch.
Friday October 5, 2012 12:04 SNAndyHoag
RT "@nichol0715: didn't they say Jenny's print was NOT on the note?" >> they couldn't identify any prints as hers.
Friday October 5, 2012 12:17 SNAndyHoag
.@nichol0715 all those that were of enough quality were identified as Bluew's. There's partials that couldn't be compared to anything.
Friday October 5, 2012 12:18 SNAndyHoag
RT @MelanieBierlein: @SNAndyHoag Where was the suicide note found? Can O'Farrell theorize that prints came from being on the scene the ...
Friday October 5, 2012 12:19 SNAndyHoag
.@MelanieBierlein Bluew said he found it on top of her purse. That theory wouldn't work because Bluew had a band-aid on by that point.
Friday October 5, 2012 12:19 SNAndyHoag
Friday October 5, 2012 1:17 SNAndyHoag
We're back, no jury yet. Mike Thomas is asking Jackson to allow the jury to go visit the scene. O'Farrell is agreeing w/ the request.
Friday October 5, 2012 1:54 SNAndyHoag
Jackson will allow the jury visit. Stroud made copies for the jurors of an aerial photograph, already in evidence, of the area.
Friday October 5, 2012 1:54 SNAndyHoag
Jackson reading the instruction he will give to the jury. Jurors will be given 30 minutes, can't be talked to, can't talk with each other.
Friday October 5, 2012 1:55 SNAndyHoag
They'll be going by bus. Bluew is waiving his right to be at the visit.
Friday October 5, 2012 1:56 SNAndyHoag
RT @tvalentine75: @SNAndyHoag will you be going with them?
Friday October 5, 2012 1:57 SNAndyHoag
.@tvalentine75 I don't know yet :) Judge didn't mention whether we can/can't go. I do know we definitely can't take photos or video.
Friday October 5, 2012 1:57 SNAndyHoag
Jackson is reading the instructions to the jury now.
Friday October 5, 2012 1:59 SNAndyHoag
And now the jury is walking back out of the courtroom.
Friday October 5, 2012 2:00 SNAndyHoag
I will not be going to the scene.
Friday October 5, 2012 2:06 SNAndyHoag
As I mentioned before, we took photos of the scene a couple weeks back:…
Friday October 5, 2012 2:07 SNAndyHoag
We're being told that when the jury returns, they will enter the courtroom, and the trial will be recessed until Tuesday morning.
Friday October 5, 2012 2:08 SNAndyHoag
So I will be closing the MLive chat window. As always, anybody with questions can tweet at me or post them on MLive.
Friday October 5, 2012 2:09 SNAndyHoag
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