Mind over matter(08/26/2008) 
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[Comment From KerrieKerrie: ] 
Good morning KerryJ
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Hi Kerrie!
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Greg Black is starting
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Welcome to the education.au’s Mind over Matter seminar featuring our special guest speaker Professor Martin Westwell. My name is Greg Black, I am the CEO of education.au and I will also be your MC for today’s proceedings. To start the proceedings off we acknowledge the Traditional landowners of the land we are on today for the Gadigal People of the Eora Nation. education.au is a leading national Information and Communications Technology (ICT) agency for educators located in Adelaide. Our aim is to build bridges between educators and technology to help make technology accessible and usable for them. We advise on how emerging technologies facilitated by the Internet, can enhance the way Australians engage in learning and achieve learning outcomes. We then design, build, adapt, enhance and manage the systems you need to make this happen. Innovation for us at education.au is all about how we can bring emerging technologies to education and training to help achieve the outcomes of our stakeholders. We also foster cooperation and collaboration amongst global organisations, so that we are able to share expertise, ideas and solutions about information and communication technologies and how they are being used successfully in education and training communities around the world. We disseminate information in many formats, whether that be through our consultancy work , our technology solutions or through to holding seminars such as these nationally.
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We would like to thank the official supporters of this event, without their support these seminars would not be feasible * Australian Library and Information Association * Australian Council for Educational Leaders (ACEL) * Centre for Learning Innovation * NSW Department of Education and Training If you are doing any blogging about this event please use the blogging tags of mind_matter_sem or eduauseminars.
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mind_matter_sem and eduauseminars are the tags for today
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The theme today is "Mind over Matter"
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Now to start the seminar I would like to introduce our guest speaker Professor Martin Westwell Martin is the first Director of the recently established Flinders Centre for Science Education in the 21st Century based in Adelaide. The Centre supports decision makers at all levels to use the available evidence to inform their decision making that will impact upon the future of science education. After completing his degree and PhD at Cambridge University, Martin moved to Oxford University as a Research Fellow in Biological and Medical Sciences at Lincoln College. In 2005 Martin returned to Oxford where he became Deputy Director of the Institute for the Future of the Mind. Martin has won a number of awards for communicating science to non-scientists, including being named by The Times as “the Scientist for the New Century” in 1999. Welcome Martin.
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Looking at the way young people behave, think and learn and how that is being changed.

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There are lots of PD books, etc. around neuroscience.
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I'm not going to talk about bits of your brain today.
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Yup, you can cut it up.
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Might as well go to Beano
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If you look at the brain, there are bits that control different parts of the body.
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But it's still just bits of brain.
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If we look at what our bodies look like related to this.
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If you look at the bit next door.
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Feeling and sensation.
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It's not the bits - it's the connections that are important.
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THese connections allow us to do something like pick up an egg.
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Something robots can't do.
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If we look at the sensory cortext, we are all about that.
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Sorry, moved ahead.   The occipital lobe at the back related to vision are at the back of the brain.
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Can you recognise the woman in 17?
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What we've done with image 17 is that we see the image, it's distributed all over the brain and we come up with a synthesis.   What we saw was smiley face and eyes -- even though upside down.
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[Comment From LaurenLauren: ] 
morning everyone
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But she clearly wasn't.   So how we see the world is about how our brains are wired upl.
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So we're going to talk about minds - not brains today.
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Good morning Lauren!
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So -- what is a mind.   We are born with all the brain cells we're ever going to have.
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It's the network of connections that grow.
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150 trillion connections that give us our complex way of thinking.
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Everythying that happens to us can change our brains' wiring.
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Every thought we have - the mind is the personalisation of the brain.
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It's what makes you who you are and changes your perceptions.l
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Look at these images.
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These mean nothing to you - but to Martin, this was his house and this is his son.
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He feels emotion associated with them
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His experience of the world and response is determined by his past.
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So what scientists talk about re learning is long term potentiation.
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Connections that LAST
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The brain cells communicate and if that connection lasts - the brain will change and the memory will last.
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So -- rote learning -- repetiion strengthens the connection
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You are more likely to use those connections
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So practice will make your connections stronger
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But the emotional context has a large effect on the learning and thinking
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We know that young people that suffer from types of dyslexia and basic applications of the ideas of numbers -- when they walk into maths class - they are anxious and stress hormones come out
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That has an impact on the brain and prevents the connections from happening
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It will chemically inhibit learning
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THe flip side is true
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If you get it all right - it promotes the growth and strength of connections
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So the key thing - how to turn information into knowledge
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It's not enough to rote learn everything
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We need to make changes to our conceptual understanding of tghe world
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We need to link new concepts to our older concepts - the brain cells that already exist
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If you show a young child a picture of fire - they'll recognise the image
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They might relate it to cooking, or a bushfire, etc.
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They'll all link in to the meaning of the world for that young person
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That was neuroscience 101
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So one of the interesting things we see is how we form connections is changing all the time
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Those connections that lose meaning we prune away
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Our brains are constantly wiring and re-wiring
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So we change who we are
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So how do ICTs change our brain?
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What did all this info now available to us do to our brains?
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A problem - they can just download information - and Ken Boston recognised that - but saw a massive problem of plagarism.
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so the world changed, tech changed, and young people were asked to get information and they went out and gave it to us.
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So big gap betgween where young people were and assessment was -- the system doesn't understand the changes
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The back to basics policies are about systems that don't understand changes
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Resulting in a BIGGER gap between kids and educational experience
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The top list maps 1,117 essays and pieces of work -- now 3,241
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The funny bit on the last one - work experience reports!
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So the world changes - so we've changed from being in one type of enviro to another.   The industrial model was about providing info
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If we're going to make meaning of info - crucial aspect of learning is the questions we ask.
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What we see from lots of studies -- is that in Australia we don't do well at high level questioning and thinking
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Our students are good at regurgitating ino, but not thinking
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Friends -- myspace has 200 million accounts - a
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plethora of online societies
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An interesting trend -- young people are better than ever at distinguishing between authentic and synthetic environments/environments
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So they left myspace and went to facebook
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But as soon as it becomes mainstream - they are outta there
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So socialistion the primary use of internet - not finding info
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So how doesw that change young people?
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TWO schools of thought
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Hard to keep up - as soon as research done, they've moved on.
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One body of evidence say it's great for them - another not.
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Which is right? I'ts both
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It's not the Tech - it's how they use it and their pre-dispositions
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TV doesn't make you stupid
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It's what you WATCH
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What we find in every tech - gives us access to extremesw of behaviour
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We use it one way - get one result, another way, another result
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Some young people are using the technology to reinforce real world contacts
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Then they get referenced to other people
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Building a network
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Few, strong connections

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So they're socially satisfying
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Other group of kids are those who find it hard to make friends
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So use the internet to play games
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So they end up with a lot of weak links
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They then go back out into the real world and are withdrawn
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Go back online and don't connect - becomes a spiral

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A lot of press about impact of technology like games.
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There is very little doubt that violence in an environment causes violent attitudes and behaviour - your brain re-wires.
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It makes you more likely to survive.
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But what we find is that young people who immerse themselves in virtual violence, the brain wires up for violence
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And young people become more violent
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The younger the child, the more the impact.

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Slide 33 demonstrates study of players of computer games
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No suggestion kids chose the game
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The game played was DOOM -- the non-violent game the same, but just had to find way through maze
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Then split player sup further -- and gave them a dilemma - choose to cooperate or exploit

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If both cooperate, split extra points.
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If one exploits - the other tries to cooperate -- cooperator loses
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If both exploit, no extra points.
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Violent game players 7 times more likely to exploit -- just after 20 minutes of game play!
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Young people were asked to keep diary of how many hours spent doing these activities.
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internet, phone, reading, computer games, homework, going out, family, watching TV, friends.;
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THey use the internet to do what they're already doing in more sophisticated ways
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All read the same amount
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The internet users were using tech to add to their lives, not to supplant
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Tech gives access to extremes of behaviour but doesn supplant other activities.
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Now -- about the evils and why they aren't.
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Compared ability of keyholes surgeons and their ability to play games like Super Monkey ball two.
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Surgeons all diffrerent ages, genders, etc.
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All tested in typical system - partially video and real surgery too.
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How many errors, how fast - and how did thisw match up with game play?

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Game players were better and faster.
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Did it make difference if they were better at the games?
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It DID!
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Why?
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31% video game skill

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So if you're going for surgery - ask for high score on Super Monkey b all
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But thinkg about it - you have to assess situation, come up with strategy, adjust if unexpected comes up
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All the while your heart is racing, your adrenaline pumping
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The characteristics of the two environments are very similar
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So not surprising there is a correlation
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Now showing a scene from a war game sim
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Amazing graphics with blood and guns
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They are very fast and furious and demanding
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Massive amounts of information to take in
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Have to shoot baddies, have to avoid shooting your mates
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Medal of Honor
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Compare THAT to Tetris!
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So we put kids into those nvironments that demand a high capacity for attention
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and they develop that
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Can't replicate the exercise he's doing now
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He flashed squares on screen and asked us to count.
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The more squares, the more errors.

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But people whjo play vid games can take in far more and make fewer errors.
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Does that sound great?
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But what happens when we put those young people in environments were there isn't a lot of visual information to take in -- they have all this extra visual attnetion capacity
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So they notice the distractors much more than non video gam eplayers
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If we don't provide environments for those kids -- we make them MORE distractible
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Have to engage these people with the environments with which they are familiar
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Video game players are probably ideal fo jobs that require fast processing - like detectors at airport.
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One of the things we can manipulate when we manipulate environment is the executive function.
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The whole coordination of thinking -- we can change by tech environment.
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Different strategies required - problem solving.
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But  what we know is that a child's ability to do these things at 10 is a better view of how successful they will be at 30 than numeracy and literacy
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We focus on product than processes
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Technology allows us to engage in processes in more meaningful ways
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What we see is these executive functions developing all the time.
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These are all improvements.
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Between 15 and 20 we are integrating them all.
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It's NOT all in the genes.
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There is not a gene for any complex human behaviour
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There are predispositions but not mandates in genes
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People now say intelligence 20% nature, 80% nurture -- used to be other way around
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An example of environment - Huntington's disease
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He apologises if anyone has Huntington's and may be offended.
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A healthy brain
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Huntington's brain - massive cell loss
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Genetics -- there is a gene for it.
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Had to go there to find complexity related to genes
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It's that simple - get the gene, get the disease.
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So scientists engineeered mice to get the disease
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One set of mice got a lot of intellectual stimulation - lots to think about.
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Was there a difference?
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Mice with got the disease, mice without gene didn't.   OF mice in enriched environment with the gene -- only 20% came down with it.   Right is brain cell from mouse in enriched environmetn.
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The environment changed the cells and protected the mice.
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So fine for mice -- Ifw'ere going to have an enriched environment - has to be multi-sensory.
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The people in an environment are most important

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Teacher student relationship very important.
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RElationship between kids themselves and parents are very imprtant
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So tech that reinforces these links is so important.
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A UK school gave all kids PDAs and engagement whent through the roof
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It was the DADs!
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The dads got excited about the gadgets and got involved in their kids' learning.
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Blue light important - the blue light that we see in the morning sends a message that says stop producing melatonin
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And start producing neurotransmitter chemicals
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As day wears on, the blue light decreases
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But our learning environments are just the opposite -- not enough blue light
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No blue light coming into their eyes -- so we ask people to pay attention
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Yet their brains are tellign them to go to sleep!
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The flip side is computer and tvs output a lot of blue light
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So even for kids who go to bed on time, but their brains think it's morning becasue of the blue light!
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Neuromyths -- the ideas that kids learn in certain ways and are labelled as such permanently does not support that
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You can't label a child JUST as visual

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Think of swinging a golf club.
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Visual, Auditory, etc. - doesn't matter how it goes in , it's how it is distributed
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No evidence to support the whole standing on one leg, touch left knee right elbow, etc.
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These themes are pushed at educators - profile the kids.
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IT bulldozes all of your expertise as teachers.
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It's the relationsihps that are important - you know your students and the people you work with
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Your expertise needs to come into play - you can't take brain-based rationale on its own.
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People who have used technology for a long time think game play = engagement.
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Not always -- look at Slide 56.   The game play in this example got in the way of comprehension.
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In this example -- the readers got more from it.
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Change is now a constant condition
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We need to ask how we keep up with them.
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Can we relate to this t-shirt?
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[Comment From KerrieKerrie: ] 
interesting implications for IWBs
Tuesday August 26, 2008 11:10 Kerrie
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Teachers are asked to be experts in everything. Whereas in other sectors, people can specialise.
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If we're asking people to be experts in literacy, numeracy, ICTs, brain science, etc. -- we can' t do it.
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We need mutli-displinary teams within a school or cluster -- we can't squeeze it into everyone.
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If a piece of PD is available to everyone, not worth having -- it will only skim the surface.
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Bring in specialists.
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Martin is asking for questions.
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Kerrie? Lauren?
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ACMA rep asking - about scarcity of attention in kids
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Martin says the short answer is he doesn't know
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Mounmting evidence that young people have more attention problems t
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But is that the general population?
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Not enough evidence
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Every generation complains the next generation has shorter attention span
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[Comment From KerrieKerrie: ] 
does this mean individual teachers should be allowed to specialise more in their school context? Rather than teaching Grade 5 one year and then Grade 3 the next?
Tuesday August 26, 2008 11:14 Kerrie
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Executive function means we apply our concentration in different ways.
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Teens actually CANNOT multitask as well as us
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[Comment From KerrieKerrie: ] 
Plato complained about young people's attention spans :-)
Tuesday August 26, 2008 11:15 Kerrie
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So what do we really mean?
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Are they more impulsive?
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Certainly, more of their environments encourage it.

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But again - classic experiements show they've always been differentn - they think faster.
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One of the reasons is our error checking.
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Young people aren't as worried about making mistakes.
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Doug - from Catholic Schools System in Newcastle
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Differences between male and female development -- analogy of boys drawing dots - consequence and action - any t
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any truth there are differences
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Martin: Teens overestimate risks, but coordination of thinking and ability to inhibit impulses is not developed yet
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True across teens
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Boys and girls -- lots of stereotypes
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[Comment From KerrieKerrie: ] 
Do our learning environments actually make concentration/focus harder for our students?
Tuesday August 26, 2008 11:19 Kerrie
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Kerrie, he says yes it does
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We either overstimulate or understimulate -- he said that earlier
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Martin is now talking about boys building with blocks -- they try to build highest tower don't care if it is useful - goal oriented.
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Girls will build somethign useful
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[Comment From KerrieKerrie: ] 
What should we do to improve them?
Tuesday August 26, 2008 11:20 Kerrie
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Kerrie, is that your question?   Happy to ask for you.
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[Comment From KerrieKerrie: ] 
yes - or has he covered it earlier?
Tuesday August 26, 2008 11:21 Kerrie
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Can only use evidence to inform decisions - not evidence-BASED decisions
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Simon - E-learning advisor, Sydney -- How should teaching and learning change to get best from students in new environment
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Based on DER
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Martin says a should answer is one based on his opinion
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If we're using tech to remove relationships between students and teacher - problem
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If using it to make relationship- more sophisticated - fabulous
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Have to value process more than product
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More e-assessment to assess questions asked rather than answers given
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We know profiling doesn't work
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But a colleague went into shcools that had exceptional outcomes in a particular department
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In those schools, they were grouping kids in certain ways.
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Boys and girls needed to be separated.
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They were grouping them for a reason.  
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Because it just worked better.
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Phillip from SA DECs interested in how schools need to change to meet in order to cope with enriched ICT environment?
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Martin says the first round of spend on building schools of future in UK is getting slammed because they're just re-building the same OLD schools
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We need new spaces - informal spaces for interaction, where enviro provides for tech needs.
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And can interact with each other
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A lot of these environments have big screens, tables, laptop wireless
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No one ever uses the screens -- but is what more useful are tools where we can share our desktop -- rather than have to expose ourselves with no interaction
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What we see is the use of laptops is making people to come together

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Kerrie, are all these questions and answers answering yours?
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Martin says the collaborative environments need to be more sophisticated -- blogs, wikis, moodles - we lose something if not synchronous
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Andrew from SA DEpt of Education and Workplace Relations - interested in impact on the future workplace in formal, informal learning and social learning places -- as well as the home environment -- what can we do to make sure our kids are entering workplace with as many of those exec functions as possible?
Tuesday August 26, 2008 11:30 
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Martin: Most of the messages that stick are about who we are, not what we say.

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[Comment From KerrieKerrie: ] 
yes - it is all very interesting and you are doing a fabulous job KJ
Tuesday August 26, 2008 11:31 Kerrie
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the people in those environmetns need to model behaviours that demonstrate those qualities of exec function

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We don't give kids enough oppty to practice exec function - in fact, we organise them so much we give them fewer opps to strategise and priorititise
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[Comment From KerrieKerrie: ] 
I still have some reservations- I think many teachers mistake entertainment for engagement. Entertainment can be watching a video, enjoying it, but never thinking about it
Tuesday August 26, 2008 11:32 Kerrie
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Prescriptive instructions kill the chance to exercise executive function
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[Comment From KerrieKerrie: ] 
what is meant by "exec" function - did I miss something?
Tuesday August 26, 2008 11:33 Kerrie
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We focus too much on content.
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Ability to prioritise, plan and strategise
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That is exec function
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Anne Bartlett Bragg from UTS --
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Cognitive load theory and high attentional capacity?
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Martin: the mroe demanding the task -- ie Reading, that tak eup more and more working memory -- we actually have less executive function to use to stay on task.

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Slide 44 here explains executive function.
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We are now breaking for morning tea -- I'm going to take some Flickr pics.
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[Be Right Back Countdown]20 minutes 
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[Comment From KerrieKerrie: ] 
thanks
Tuesday August 26, 2008 11:36 Kerrie
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Pleasure!
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[Comment From KerrieKerrie: ] 
ok - great so far. have some mt too
Tuesday August 26, 2008 11:53 Kerrie
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We'll be starting again in just a few minutes.
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For those of you who don't know me - I'm KerryJ - a multimedia producer from education.au
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To make a comment, just type. Anonymous comments will not be accepted. As moderator, I approve all comments -- so if yours does not appear immediately, it is because I have yet to approve it. I'll do my best to keep up. : )
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Please remember that this session will be archived - so any comments you make and the name you choose to participate will be recorded.
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I may try to stream some live video during this session - please let me know if it enhances your experience or not.
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We are back.
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This session is about what you would like to discuss
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My apologies that I wasn't able to upload the dozens of slides involved.
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Limitation through categorisation
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Purposeless streaming and send messages to kids not in the top set that they can't do, are lesser
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Specialists schools don't work well either.
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[Comment From LynleyLynley: ] 
Great job Kerry
Tuesday August 26, 2008 12:06 Lynley
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It actually works in reverse because the kids that go there see themselves as specialists while the rest get the opposite meswsage.
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Thanks Lynley
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Is reminded of a test of IQ of black kids -- when they were reminded they were black boys, they did WORSE than when they just tooki an IQ test
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Testing shows that happens -- societal messages affect us
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And it didn't matter what the ethnic origin was
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[Comment From GarryGarry: ] 
Hi KJ, Thought Martin gave so many gems in the first hour my blog entry is way tooo long.
Tuesday August 26, 2008 12:09 Garry
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Whether you are a visual or auditory learner -- NO YOU"RE NOT
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As soon as you define yourself in that way you limit yourself
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[Comment From KerrieKerrie: ] 
there has been some research/case studies that seemed to prove that if students were allowed to attend a school specialising in say maths and science on the basis of interest rather than ability, that there are cases of "blossoming" - but an expensive "experiment" if it doesn't work
Tuesday August 26, 2008 12:10 Kerrie
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[Comment From katekate: ] 
hi Kerry - where are the slides? I would like to see these if possible?
Tuesday August 26, 2008 12:10 kate
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Hi Kate - Martin had more than 100 slides which I received 45 minutes before start
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Will put them up later
Tuesday August 26, 2008 12:10 
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[Comment From katekate: ] 
Thanks - can you promote this some how so that we can follow it up after
Tuesday August 26, 2008 12:11 kate
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It's not what we do - it's who we are and what we provide as an environment that makes a difference
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Theories of intelligence
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Two groups of kids - one group think their intelligence is fixed
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They get discouraged easily
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Another group sees their intelligence as something they can affect

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