NHL Awards live blog
12:59
Who is your pick for the Vezina?
Brodeur
 ( 40% )
Lundqvist
 ( 17% )
Nabokov
 ( 23% )
other
 ( 20% )

Thursday June 12, 2008 12:59 
1:00
James Mirtle: 
Hi everyone, thanks for joining me at FanHouse
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:00 James Mirtle
1:01
Who is your pick for the Hart Trophy?
Iginla
 ( 3% )
Malkin
 ( 8% )
Ovechkin
 ( 69% )
other
 ( 19% )

Thursday June 12, 2008 1:01 
1:02
James Mirtle: 
I offered up my picks on all of the awards here at my site; I'm curious to hear what others think
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:02 James Mirtle
1:02
[Comment From DannyDanny: ] 
So who will it be...Kane or Toews?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:02 Danny
1:02
James Mirtle: 
Definitely one of the questions of the night tonight
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:02 James Mirtle
1:03
James Mirtle: 
a lot of the awards won't be surprises, in my view, but the Calder and Jack Adams are incredibly tough to call
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:03 James Mirtle
1:03
James Mirtle: 
and I think Backstrom's in the conversation for sure
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:03 James Mirtle
1:03
James Mirtle: 
my pick was Kane, given his point totals and the fact he didn't miss time like Toews
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:03 James Mirtle
1:03
[Comment From Steve LeporeSteve Lepore: ] 
So, does anyone really care any more after everyone thinks the award have been revealed?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:03 Steve Lepore
1:04
James Mirtle: 
Do you mean the Hart Trophy T-shirt, Steve?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:04 James Mirtle
1:04
[Comment From Steve LeporeSteve Lepore: ] 
And the interesting order of the nominees on the NHL Website
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:04 Steve Lepore
1:05
[Image]ovechkin shirt.jpg  View
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:05 
1:06
[Comment From sweepsweep: ] 
did you forget backstrom, or are you just trying to be cool. toews is third, idiot
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:06 sweep
1:07
James Mirtle: 
and here's a look at what Steve's talking about with the NHL's website
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:07 James Mirtle
1:07
James Mirtle: 
The suggestion is that the winners are all on the left hand side
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:07 James Mirtle
1:08
James Mirtle: 
I find it hard to believe Iginla got more votes than Malkin, Lundqvist more than Brodeur, Carbonneau than Boudreau, etc.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:08 James Mirtle
1:08
James Mirtle: 
could be, I suppose.   Another conspiracy theory on awards night, anyway
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:08 James Mirtle
1:08
[Comment From BlackcapricornBlackcapricorn: ] 
Is this suckers being broadcast in the States? Vs?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:08 Blackcapricorn
1:09
James Mirtle: 
good question - that was a debacle last year with Versus
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:09 James Mirtle
1:09
[Comment From Steve LeporeSteve Lepore: ] 
Toews was much more important to his team than Kane or Backstrom though.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:09 Steve Lepore
1:10
Who is your pick for the Calder?
Backstrom
 ( 50% )
Kane
 ( 32% )
Toews
 ( 7% )
other
 ( 11% )

Thursday June 12, 2008 1:10 
1:11
[Comment From Steve LeporeSteve Lepore: ] 
Though it technically was the CBC's fault.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:11 Steve Lepore
1:11
[Comment From Earl SleekEarl Sleek: ] 
Versus will be showing the show tonight. James, do you think it's time that the NHL re-defined its trophies, or came up with new ones? I might be interested to see a "best referee" award as voted by the players, for example. What's one that you might innovate?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:11 Earl Sleek
1:12
James Mirtle: 
Yikes, now I've got to invent a trophy.

Well, I've been on record talking about a Rod Langway Award for the top defensive defenceman, so I'll keep beating that drum
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:12 James Mirtle
1:12
James Mirtle: 
there's a huge portion of the league that's completely unable to win hardware despite valuable contributions
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:12 James Mirtle
1:12
James Mirtle: 
I can't find the Versus TV schedule - anyone have a link?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:12 James Mirtle
1:12
[Comment From BlackcapricornBlackcapricorn: ] 
Oh yes, a production truck fire or something like that?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:12 Blackcapricorn
1:13
James Mirtle: 
Yes. I was covering the awards live for FanHouse last year from the theatre, and we had a ton of emails coming in from outraged viewers in the U.S.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:13 James Mirtle
1:13
[Comment From Mr. PlankMr. Plank: ] 
I believe it is on Versus at 7 EST, thats what my Tivo says
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:13 Mr. Plank
1:14
[Comment From WyshynskiWyshynski: ] 
sorry James ... the Nabby/Iginla thing was from me.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:14 Wyshynski
1:14
James Mirtle: 
how's that Greg?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:14 James Mirtle
1:14
[Comment From Steve LeporeSteve Lepore: ] 
The Hawks are a Top 5 draft pick team if Toews doesn't play at all. They would be a playoff team if Toews has played 75 games.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:14 Steve Lepore
1:15
James Mirtle: 
Adam Foote was my pick for the top defensive defenceman award this year, btw
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:15 James Mirtle
1:15
[Comment From Steve LeporeSteve Lepore: ] 
The Gretzky Award for Most Assists.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:15 Steve Lepore
1:15
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
"I find it hard to believe Iginla got more votes than Malkin." It's sort of the same thing with Lundqvist and Marty vs. Nabby -- Ovechkin and Malkin likely split the East vote, and cleared the way Iginla.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:15 Guest
1:16
James Mirtle: 
I don't even know that the hockey writers are distrubted evenly east to west
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:16 James Mirtle
1:16
James Mirtle: 
I doubt they are
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:16 James Mirtle
1:16
[Comment From Bruce CiskieBruce Ciskie: ] 
How about an award for the best PA announcer?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:16 Bruce Ciskie
1:16
[Comment From Steve LeporeSteve Lepore: ] 
Mrtle, it's on Versus, 7-8:30 PM, so we get it an hour before Canadians do.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:16 Steve Lepore
1:16
James Mirtle: 
that's bizarre - I'll be watching on tape delay?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:16 James Mirtle
1:16
James Mirtle: 
thank you to everyone here -- a very full house today
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:16 James Mirtle
1:16
[Comment From Dr HuxtableDr Huxtable: ] 
I think there should be a Bobby Orr trophy for the league's best offensive defenseman.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:16 Dr Huxtable
1:17
James Mirtle: 
Lidstrom does need some more hardware  
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:17 James Mirtle
1:17
[Comment From Mr. PlankMr. Plank: ] 
I doubt the Canadien media would let that happen- are you sure Steve?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:17 Mr. Plank
1:17
[Comment From Earl SleekEarl Sleek: ] 
http://www.versus.com/schedule has it at 7 pm EST.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:17 Earl Sleek
1:17
James Mirtle: 
thanks Earl
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:17 James Mirtle
1:17
[Comment From Sean LeahySean Leahy: ] 
NHL Network US will be showing red carpet coverage beginning at 6pm ET
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:17 Sean Leahy
1:18
James Mirtle: 
I might run over to the red carpet to get a few pictures... it's about a 15 minute walk for me
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:18 James Mirtle
1:18
[Comment From BlackcapricornBlackcapricorn: ] 
Best Enforcer Award?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:18 Blackcapricorn
1:18
[Comment From Steve LeporeSteve Lepore: ] 
Mr. Plank, absolutely sure.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:18 Steve Lepore
1:18
[Comment From BlackcapricornBlackcapricorn: ] 
The NHL Network actually doing something besides On The Fly?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:18 Blackcapricorn
1:18
[Comment From Steve LeporeSteve Lepore: ] 
Dr Huxtable, the Norris Trophy already does that anyway. A prime example is how Scott Stevens got ignored for so many years.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:18 Steve Lepore
1:18
James Mirtle: 
Exactly.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:18 James Mirtle
1:19
[Comment From Mr. PlankMr. Plank: ] 
@ Steve: That surprises the hell out of me. Nice find.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:19 Mr. Plank
1:19
[Comment From Sean LeahySean Leahy: ] 
like the NY Times brought up the other day, why can't a defenseman win the Lady Byng?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:19 Sean Leahy
1:19
James Mirtle: 
You guys - have me scrambling for these links   :-)
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:19 James Mirtle
1:20
[Comment From Earl SleekEarl Sleek: ] 
Ooh, I do like "Best Enforcer". Give the show some spice!
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:20 Earl Sleek
1:20
James Mirtle: 
I wonder who would win that one; we had quite a few middleweights dropping the gloves a lot this year
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:20 James Mirtle
1:20
[Comment From Dr HuxtableDr Huxtable: ] 
Oh. The more you know.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:20 Dr Huxtable
1:20
[Comment From Steve LeporeSteve Lepore: ] 
CBCSports.ca is broadcasting the show live, however.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:20 Steve Lepore
1:20
James Mirtle: 
hey there we go
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:20 James Mirtle
1:20
[Comment From WyshynskiWyshynski: ] 
Better question: What defenseman would *want* to win the Lady Byng?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:20 Wyshynski
1:21
James Mirtle: 
it's unfortunate that the Byng's become this great undesirable
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:21 James Mirtle
1:21
James Mirtle: 
playing hard and well and not taking penalties should be seen as a greater skill than it is
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:21 James Mirtle
1:21
[Comment From Steve LeporeSteve Lepore: ] 
Well, the Vezina race is an interesting one.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:21 Steve Lepore
1:22
James Mirtle: 
Right now, our readers have Brodeur as a heavy favourite. Is it just me, or were the wrong guys nominated this year (aside from Marty)?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:22 James Mirtle
1:23
James Mirtle: 
For those that missed it, there was another red carpet yesterday for The Love Guru. Good shot of Mini Me with the Stanley Cup over at Yahoo!
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:23 James Mirtle
1:23
[Comment From BlackcapricornBlackcapricorn: ] 
I think you can make a case for Nabby especially during the second half of the season
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:23 Blackcapricorn
1:23
[Comment From Steve LeporeSteve Lepore: ] 
No, Nabokov and Lundqvist both played on teams that simply sucked at scoring. They're deserving.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:23 Steve Lepore
1:23
[Comment From Mr. PlankMr. Plank: ] 
You're breaking my heart. Nabby carried the Sharks for the first half of the year, I definitely think he deserves a nomination.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:23 Mr. Plank
1:24
James Mirtle: 
he was, what, 20th in save percentage? The Sharks really didn't allow a ton of chances this year
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:24 James Mirtle
1:24
[Comment From Steve LeporeSteve Lepore: ] 
The Devils did only score 206 goals, but the Rangers scored 213 and the Sharks only 222.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:24 Steve Lepore
1:24
James Mirtle: 
Bryzgalov had a better year than anyone gives him credit for. I would have given him a vote for the top 3
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:24 James Mirtle
1:24
[Comment From Steve LeporeSteve Lepore: ] 
http://www.versus.com/schedule
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:24 Steve Lepore
1:25
James Mirtle: 
if you missed it, tonight's show starts at 7 on Versus, 8 p.m. on CBC, but you can pick it up live at CBCsports.ca
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:25 James Mirtle
1:25
[Comment From Steve LeporeSteve Lepore: ] 
Also, you could argue that Marty had the best season of his career. For that, I think he'll win.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:25 Steve Lepore
1:25
James Mirtle: 
he was very, very good. The Devils left him hanging a lot this season
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:25 James Mirtle
1:25
[Comment From Steve LeporeSteve Lepore: ] 
While Lundqvist and Nabakov will likely be back, I think the voters reward Marty one more time.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:25 Steve Lepore
1:26
James Mirtle: 
3,000 readers and not a peep - questions out there anyone?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:26 James Mirtle
1:26
[Comment From Steve LeporeSteve Lepore: ] 
Paul Martin and Johnny Oduya is not a Number 1 Defensive Tandem. Simple as that.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:26 Steve Lepore
1:26
James Mirtle: 
exactly. New Jersey managed a lot with the crew they had
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:26 James Mirtle
1:27
Who is your pick for the Jack Adams (coach of the year)?
Babcock
 ( 57% )
Boudreau
 ( 30% )
Carbonneau
 ( 5% )
other
 ( 8% )

Thursday June 12, 2008 1:27 
1:27
[Comment From Steve LeporeSteve Lepore: ] 
That said, I certainly wouldn't have a problem with Nabakov winning. San Jose hung him out to dry quite a bit over the first half.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:27 Steve Lepore
1:28
James Mirtle: 
how big a factor should save percentage be? Nabokov was 18th
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:28 James Mirtle
1:28
[Comment From Sean LeahySean Leahy: ] 
No Executive of the Year award like some other sports do?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:28 Sean Leahy
1:29
[Comment From Steve LeporeSteve Lepore: ] 
I'm pretty sure the NHL does that Sean, just not as public an award as others.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:29 Steve Lepore
1:30
James Mirtle: 
I think an executive award's a great idea. The Hockey News gives one out every year. You'd be hard pressed to pick anyone other than Ken Holland from Detroit this year
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:30 James Mirtle
1:30
[Comment From Mr. PlankMr. Plank: ] 
If you look at the opportunities the Sharks gave up, most of them were difficult shots to stop- although his % may be low, the quality of stops Nabokov had to make over the course of a game were high.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:30 Mr. Plank
1:30
[Comment From Steve LeporeSteve Lepore: ] 
Hey Dr. Mirtle, can we set a new rule that no one should be allowed to handicap/predict the Masterton Award?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:30 Steve Lepore
1:31
James Mirtle: 
Good point, Mr. Plank
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:31 James Mirtle
1:31
James Mirtle: 
probably a fair rule... comparing various disorders, disabilities and comebacks?   Not great reading
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:31 James Mirtle
1:31
[Comment From Steve LeporeSteve Lepore: ] 
And considering Mike Milbury has won the award, it's probably the right decision to keep it private.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:31 Steve Lepore
1:32
James Mirtle: 
well, obviously they should have an execs award that the hockey writers vote on after the playoffs
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:32 James Mirtle
1:32
James Mirtle: 
although you wonder if the Cup-winning GM would simply win every year
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:32 James Mirtle
1:32
Who is your pick for the Selke (defensive forward)
Datsyuk
 ( 50% )
Madden
 ( 14% )
Zetterberg
 ( 32% )
other
 ( 4% )

Thursday June 12, 2008 1:32 
1:33
[Comment From BlackcapricornBlackcapricorn: ] 
Who is the likely Calder winner next year?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:33 Blackcapricorn
1:33
James Mirtle: 
I think Stamkos will be the consensus choice there - anyone else have a vote?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:33 James Mirtle
1:34
[Comment From Mr. PlankMr. Plank: ] 
Gary Roberts
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:34 Mr. Plank
1:34
[Comment From Steve LeporeSteve Lepore: ] 
Too early to call.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:34 Steve Lepore
1:34
[Comment From WallyWally: ] 
That's the problem with your Coach of the Year poll - You're asking NOW, after the Wings won the Cup. Gabby brought the Caps back from last in the league to the playoffs. There's no way he doesn't win.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:34 Wally
1:35
[Comment From Sean LeahySean Leahy: ] 
Brunnstrom? Okposo? Turris?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:35 Sean Leahy
1:35
James Mirtle: 
I think Babcock likely had a lot of votes for that one before the playoffs
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:35 James Mirtle
1:35
James Mirtle: 
the Adams will be a very close vote, in my mind
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:35 James Mirtle
1:36
James Mirtle: 
Boudreau, after all, did only coach 3/4 of a season... is that enough?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:36 James Mirtle
1:36
[Comment From Earl SleekEarl Sleek: ] 
Yeah, too bad Detroit didn't spend their first month losing so people could notice how good a coach Babcock is.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:36 Earl Sleek
1:36
James Mirtle: 
Babcock's had three consecutive 50-win seasons; he deserves to win
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:36 James Mirtle
1:36
[Comment From Mr. PlankMr. Plank: ] 
Turris will have a good year- with Bryzgalov in net, that Coyotes team may make a playoff push and raise some eyebrows
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:36 Mr. Plank
1:37
James Mirtle: 
yes, I think that's fair. heck, I'm cheering for them
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:37 James Mirtle
1:37
James Mirtle: 
Gretzky's raised some eyebrows already
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:37 James Mirtle
1:37
[Comment From BlackcapricornBlackcapricorn: ] 
Considering the turnaround that team had, I think 3/4 of a year is enough
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:37 Blackcapricorn
1:37
James Mirtle: 
some voters might not, though. That's what it comes down to, anyway, in my mind
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:37 James Mirtle
1:38
Who is your pick for the Norris?
Chara
 ( 3% )
Lidstrom
 ( 83% )
Phaneuf
 ( 13% )
other
 ( 0% )

Thursday June 12, 2008 1:38 
1:38
James Mirtle: 
Do you guys think anyone but Lidstrom received some first-place votes for the Norris?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:38 James Mirtle
1:40
[Comment From BlackcapricornBlackcapricorn: ] 
Maybe a few from the Provence known as Alberta?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:40 Blackcapricorn
1:40
[Comment From WallyWally: ] 
No. I just bought my Lidstrom/Norris tshirt on nhl.com.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:40 Wally
1:40
James Mirtle: 
heh, I think Wally's pulling our leg
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:40 James Mirtle
1:41
James Mirtle: 
Lidstrom's amazing, really. 38 years old and still besting defencemen with 15 years on him

he certainly proves the adage that blueliners need experience to flourish
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:41 James Mirtle
1:41
[Comment From WallyWally: ] 
:-)
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:41 Wally
1:41
[Comment From Mr. PlankMr. Plank: ] 
Maybe Chara got two, but that even that might be a stretch- it's pretty apparent to me Lidstrom has that in the bag. The Norris and the Hart are the two that really aren't too debatable in my mind.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:41 Mr. Plank
1:41
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
if anyone other than lidstrom got a first place vote they should automatically take away that voters ability to vote in the future
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:41 Guest
1:42
James Mirtle: 
there are always some wacky votes at these things
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:42 James Mirtle
1:42
James Mirtle: 
I had all of the vote totals last time around, and people like Tomas Vanek were getting Selke first-place votes.   I believe Tom Preissing and Kevin Bieksa received some Norris consideration
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:42 James Mirtle
1:42
[Comment From JamesJames: ] 
Can a Fired coach win coach of the year ( Wilson ) ?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:42 James
1:42
James Mirtle: 
yes
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:42 James Mirtle
1:43
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
the most amazing thing about lidstrom is not the 4 cups or the 16 straight playoff years or all the norris trophies... its how he makes everyone else on the team better
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:43 Guest
1:43
James Mirtle: 
Lidstrom's also the argument against the defensive defenceman award I talked about earlier; he's good enough to win that one and the Norris every year
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:43 James Mirtle
1:44
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
look at everyone who has played with him... people say what a genius ken holland is for bringing in rafalski... fine, rafalski is good but i could be a #2 dman in the nhl as lidstroms partner and i cent even skate backwards
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:44 Guest
1:44
James Mirtle: 
heh, you're the answer if they lose Brad Stuart to free agency?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:44 James Mirtle
1:45
James Mirtle: 
the league minimum is only $500,000, I warn you
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:45 James Mirtle
1:45
James Mirtle: 
no one other than Lidstrom has a vote in our poll so far.   No votes for Malkin for the Hart
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:45 James Mirtle
1:45
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
if they promise to pair me with nick i will sign the contract and play for free
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:45 Guest
1:45
James Mirtle: 
Are you Cory Cross?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:45 James Mirtle
1:45
[Comment From Sean LeahySean Leahy: ] 
can we get an over/under on the number of bad jokes by Ron McLean tonight?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:45 Sean Leahy
1:46
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
becasue after one yr as his partner i will command 7 mm as an UFA
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:46 Guest
1:46
James Mirtle: 
it is interesting that they'd go with Rafalski as his partner, though; that's not exactly an imposing tandem on the best team in the league
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:46 James Mirtle
1:46
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
they should put milbury with mclean and mike will surely call him an idiot
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:46 Guest
1:46
James Mirtle: 
the awards are always ugly television
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:46 James Mirtle
1:47
James Mirtle: 
any suggestions on how to improve the viewing?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:47 James Mirtle
1:48
[Comment From BlackcapricornBlackcapricorn: ] 
Hold the ceremony on a tropical beach somewhere
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:48 Blackcapricorn
1:48
James Mirtle: 
I'd watch that.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:48 James Mirtle
1:48
James Mirtle: 
Hawaii might work -- Gretzky could show up
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:48 James Mirtle
1:49
[Comment From duffman75duffman75: ] 
have girls in bikinis award the trophy to the winners
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:49 duffman75
1:49
James Mirtle: 
Howie Mandell, too?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:49 James Mirtle
1:49
[Comment From Sean LeahySean Leahy: ] 
clearly, the Awards show needs one thing: Ice Girls
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:49 Sean Leahy
1:49
James Mirtle: 
I guess our female audience is small today
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:49 James Mirtle
1:49
[Comment From JamesJames: ] 
Get Billy Crystall to announce
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:49 James
1:49
[Comment From Mr. PlankMr. Plank: ] 
Heavy amounts of cheap liquor
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:49 Mr. Plank
1:49
[Comment From Mr. PlankMr. Plank: ] 
The mute button works pretty well as well
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:49 Mr. Plank
1:50
[Comment From DoogieDoogie: ] 
Just don't air it, honestly. Awards shows are ugly television, period.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:50 Doogie
1:50
[Comment From BlackcapricornBlackcapricorn: ] 
Drinks, hockey players, Hawaiian Tropic girls, what could go wrong?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:50 Blackcapricorn
1:50
[Comment From WallyWally: ] 
They'd be handing out the "hardware". Heh, heh.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:50 Wally
1:50
[Comment From Earl SleekEarl Sleek: ] 
Also the show could use some suspense.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:50 Earl Sleek
1:50
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
allow fighting amongst the candidates???
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:50 Guest
1:50
James Mirtle: 
I wonder if they didn't reveal the nominees more than a month in advance if that adds to the intrigue
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:50 James Mirtle
1:51
[Comment From Earl SleekEarl Sleek: ] 
James, I did a little tally, and of the six divisions, the Pacific is in the basement with only Nabokov's nomination. Do you think that's a fluke? Should the NHL try to balance things to make west coast hockey fans feel like they have a fairer shot at an award (like have an eastern conference Hart and a western conference Hart)?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:51 Earl Sleek
1:52
James Mirtle: 
I don't like splitting the trophies by conference, for a whole bunch of reasons. Tradition's the big one

Who from the Pacific got overlooked? No one from the Kings or Coyotes was likely to be nominated, and the Sharks, Ducks and Stars all had relatively defensive teams
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:52 James Mirtle
1:52
[Comment From Sean LeahySean Leahy: ] 
Earl, can you host tonight? that was classic
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:52 Sean Leahy
1:52
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
please no!! could you imagine an eastern and western conf lady byng winner?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:52 Guest
1:52
James Mirtle: 
two no-shows instead of one   :-)
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:52 James Mirtle
1:52
[Comment From duffman75duffman75: ] 
2 different Hart trophies??? that is the most inane thing I've ever heard
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:52 duffman75
1:52
James Mirtle: 
no, no, they'd just cut it down the middle
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:52 James Mirtle
1:53
[Comment From Earl SleekEarl Sleek: ] 
Yeah, I'm not sure if there's anyone from the Pacific Division that was really overlooked, but it's not just a this-year complaint, I guess.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:53 Earl Sleek
1:53
James Mirtle: 
I think, if you looked at the PHWA (hockey writers), there are fewer in some divisions than others
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:53 James Mirtle
1:54
James Mirtle: 
the Northeast would likely have a ton of voters, many of whom don't see a lot of the west coast teams
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:54 James Mirtle
1:54
[Comment From JamesJames: ] 
Maybe a runner up trophy
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:54 James
1:54
[Comment From Mr. PlankMr. Plank: ] 
"Cut it down the middle"- so they'd replace the Hart trophy with the Memorial Cup?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:54 Mr. Plank
1:54
[Comment From Mr. PlankMr. Plank: ] 
James (in regards to revealing a month in advance)- I like that idea, but some controversy could arise that they were basing the winners off playoff performances as well.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:54 Mr. Plank
1:54
[Comment From WallyWally: ] 
Interesting poll numbers. Do you think Kane and Towes split the vote and Backstom sneaks in and gets it?
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:54 Wally
1:55
James Mirtle: 
I think that's a possibility... keep in mind that voters weren't just choosing between the three candidates however
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:55 James Mirtle
1:55
James Mirtle: 
when the votes are cast, everyone picks between all the available players - and they cast first through fifth place votes
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:55 James Mirtle
1:57
James Mirtle: 
so, me, for instance, I would have a list something like this:
1. Kane
2. Toews
3. Backstrom
4. Price
5. Mueller
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:57 James Mirtle
1:57
James Mirtle: 
there's not really a splitting of the vote there
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:57 James Mirtle
1:57
James Mirtle: 
both Kane and Toews receive votes from me (if I was a voter, which I'm not)
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:57 James Mirtle
1:58
[Comment From BlackcapricornBlackcapricorn: ] 
That Mueller kid is going to be quite the force in the near future methinks
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:58 Blackcapricorn
1:58
James Mirtle: 
he's terrific... over the final few months of the season, he was a point per game player for Phoenix
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:58 James Mirtle
1:58
[Comment From Cory CrossCory Cross: ] 
wally, the polls you are looking at are impacted by small #s. i just voted for "other" for vezina and it went from 0 to 7% which means there are like 14 votes.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:58 Cory Cross
1:58
James Mirtle: 
I knew Cross was in here somewhere. Welcome
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:58 James Mirtle
1:58
James Mirtle: 
all that means is that more of you turkeys need to vote
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:58 James Mirtle
1:59
[Comment From WallyWally: ] 
True, but Kane and Towes playing on the same team could hurt each others chances.
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:59 Wally
1:59
James Mirtle: 
Backstrom playing on the same team as Ovechkin hurts his chances, too
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:59 James Mirtle
1:59
James Mirtle: 
if anything, I think people look at what the Blackhawks accomplished with two rookies on the first line and are very impressed
Thursday June 12, 2008 1:59 James Mirtle
2:00
[Comment From Cory CrossCory Cross: ] 
doesnt seem to be hurting datsyuk on the selke
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:00 Cory Cross
2:00
[Comment From WallyWally: ] 
Ah, so we have to hope more than 14 people voted for each of tonight's awards...
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:00 Wally
2:01
[Comment From Cory CrossCory Cross: ] 
hey who voted for chara and phaneuf on norris??? identify yourselves!
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:01 Cory Cross
2:01
James Mirtle: 
they're getting me back for saying they had to vote
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:01 James Mirtle
2:02
Will you watch tonight?
Yes, the whole thing
 ( 70% )
A few minutes for the big awards
 ( 22% )
No, I'm not interested. I like chatting with you
 ( 7% )

Thursday June 12, 2008 2:02 
2:02
[Comment From Cory CrossCory Cross: ] 
if they arent banned from this blog you lose all your credibility :)
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:02 Cory Cross
2:02
James Mirtle: 
I have no clue who they are - voting is anonymous
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:02 James Mirtle
2:02
[Comment From BlackcapricornBlackcapricorn: ] 
haha that was me for Dion Cory- just to mix it up. I do think he's a great dman though.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:02 Blackcapricorn
2:03
James Mirtle: 
Phaneuf would have been a ways down my list this year
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:03 James Mirtle
2:03
James Mirtle: 
He's got a ways to go defensively still
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:03 James Mirtle
2:03
[Comment From WallyWally: ] 
But we all agree that the Norris is for offensive denfenseman.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:03 Wally
2:03
James Mirtle: 
that is the way it's voted on, yes
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:03 James Mirtle
2:04
James Mirtle: 
Gonchar deserved a nomination this season
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:04 James Mirtle
2:04
[Comment From DjangoDjango: ] 
The only real question I have is how many Edge shaving gel commercials we will have to see. I've developed a Stockholm syndrome relationship with those things.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:04 Django
2:04
James Mirtle: 
heh... you, my friend, need a PVR
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:04 James Mirtle
2:05
[Comment From Mr. PlankMr. Plank: ] 
Dockers will definitely be making an appearance as well
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:05 Mr. Plank
2:05
Who wins the Masterton Trophy?
Blake
 ( 42% )
Chelios
 ( 37% )
Pisani
 ( 21% )

Thursday June 12, 2008 2:05 
2:06
[Comment From DoogieDoogie: ] 
San Fernando
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:06 Doogie
2:06
James Mirtle: 
I think he'll win, too, although Blake will certainly have a lot of votes from the Toronto contingent
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:06 James Mirtle
2:07
[Comment From BlackcapricornBlackcapricorn: ] 
We can only hopes that as hockey climbs back into the sports spotlight (in the States) they will get better ad buys and corporate partners
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:07 Blackcapricorn
2:07
James Mirtle: 
Where are you located BC?   Michigan?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:07 James Mirtle
2:08
James Mirtle: 
What's the profile of the awards show in the U.S.? Does it get any coverage?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:08 James Mirtle
2:08
[Comment From DoogieDoogie: ] 
I dunno, James, a lot of people have a major hard-on for the C-word, and I don't mean colitis. Between those two factors (among other things), I think Blake wins, even though my heart goes out to Pisani.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:08 Doogie
2:08
James Mirtle: 
Yeah, it'll certainly be interesting
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:08 James Mirtle
2:09
[Comment From BlackcapricornBlackcapricorn: ] 
NYC, sadly as I hate all the local teams
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:09 Blackcapricorn
2:09
[Comment From WallyWally: ] 
If Crosby, Malkin and Ovechkin all stay healthy, how many years will it be before the Hart leaves the East?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:09 Wally
2:09
James Mirtle: 
I know tomorrow, the awards will be a big part of The Globe and Mail's sports coverage. Front page of the sports section, definitely

I don't imagine that's the case in the U.S.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:09 James Mirtle
2:10
James Mirtle: 
maybe in Washington - and especially if they do sweep the three major awards Capitals are up for
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:10 James Mirtle
2:11
James Mirtle: 
You're right Wally - given the highest point getter generally wins the thing, it could be tough. Part of the problem is that there are simply fewer goals scored in the West, so it's therefore harder to lead the league in scoring

Iginla, for instance, had a whale of a season this year but won't win
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:11 James Mirtle
2:11
[Comment From DoogieDoogie: ] 
Do any of the sports awards make Page 1 of sports sections outside the winner's home market in the US? I'm honestly curious, it seems there's just so much sporting news there, that it would be too low of an impact to be worthwhile.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:11 Doogie
2:12
James Mirtle: 
there have been nearly 10,000 readers today according to this software; thanks so much for coming out

I wonder if people are suffering from hockey withdrawal already
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:12 James Mirtle
2:12
[Comment From BlackcapricornBlackcapricorn: ] 
Its funny, in NYC, there was huge coverage in all the papers (even the free daily ones) while the local teams were in the playoffs and also for the first 2 games of the SC but after that, they have given up (save Brooks). I doubt it will get more than a 1 paragraph mention.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:12 Blackcapricorn
2:13
James Mirtle: 
a little bit of lag with the comments - my apologies for that
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:13 James Mirtle
2:14
James Mirtle: 
Lidstrom's down to just 83 per cent in our Norris voting, by the way
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:14 James Mirtle
2:14
James Mirtle: 
I think it's like that everywhere Capricorn; the traffic on my site really shrivels up as the playoffs move along, and hometown teams are eliminated

it's really true what they say about the NHL being a regional league; Flyers fans, for instance, aren't going to watch a finals without their team in it
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:14 James Mirtle
2:14
[Comment From Steve LeporeSteve Lepore: ] 
They could use a Brodeur-Lundqvist win as an excuse to play up the "rivalry" between the two.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:14 Steve Lepore
2:15
[Comment From DoogieDoogie: ] 
That is weird. You think they gave up because it was like, "Okay, the Pens are gonna get thumped, the series is over, hey look, Jets offseason news"?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:15 Doogie
2:16
[Comment From BlackcapricornBlackcapricorn: ] 
Doogie, I have no idea, but the trailoff on coverage was noticeable. They actually did a series preview in most of the rags.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:16 Blackcapricorn
2:16
Steve Lepore: 
I think US newspapers really overlook how much hockey fans would crave at least half decent regular coverage.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:16 Steve Lepore
2:17
James Mirtle: 
(in case you don't know him, Mr. Lepore's one of the boys on the beat at Kukla's compound)
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:17 James Mirtle
2:17
[Comment From WallyWally: ] 
They don't recognize the difference between (your team here) fans and "hockey" fans.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:17 Wally
2:17
Steve Lepore: 
*Passes Mirtle $5 bill for easy plug*
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:17 Steve Lepore
2:17
Steve Lepore: 
*Makes it a $10, damn exchange rate*
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:17 Steve Lepore
2:18
James Mirtle: 
hey, you've been upgraded to co-panelist, so you deserve the hits
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:18 James Mirtle
2:18
[Comment From DoogieDoogie: ] 
@Steve: But at the same, I wonder if hockey fans haven't already given up on dead trees, and now favour the Internet, and because of that, newspapers really can't justify re-expanding their coverage? Like, now that they've gone down that path, they can't really reverse it and be able to cost-justify it?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:18 Doogie
2:18
Eric McErlain: 
I'd agree with that Doogie.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:18 Eric McErlain
2:19
James Mirtle: 
it's Mr. McErlain, live from the home of awards interest, Washington DC
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:19 James Mirtle
2:19
Steve Lepore: 
That's a very fair point, but I still think there are some examples that could be used on how hockey writers can draw readers in different markets. Rich Chere out of Newark is a great example of a must-read for hockey fans.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:19 Steve Lepore
2:19
James Mirtle: 
what's the buzz in DC like about tonight Eric?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:19 James Mirtle
2:19
Eric McErlain: 
Wondering out loud if in addition to Ovie grabbing the Hart, we see Boudreau take the Adams and Backstrom take the Calder.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:19 Eric McErlain
2:20
Steve Lepore: 
The Devils blog at the Bergen Record's website (Tom Gulitti) is the #2 blog among all of their blogs period among hits, so there is certainly a want for in-depth coverage.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:20 Steve Lepore
2:20
James Mirtle: 
What's your take on that? How likely is a sweep?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:20 James Mirtle
2:20
James Mirtle: 
No NHL team has ever won those three awards in the same season
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:20 James Mirtle
2:20
[Comment From WallyWally: ] 
Ovie is going to get the key to the city, *if* he wins the Hart.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:20 Wally
2:20
Steve Lepore: 
I don't understand how they don't see the numbers for their hockey blogs (Isles & Rangers at Newsday, too) and translate it into a few extra lines of space in the paper.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:20 Steve Lepore
2:21
[Comment From WallyWally: ] 
They already have the party planned for DC tomorrow.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:21 Wally
2:21
Eric McErlain: 
While I think a sweep is deserved, I'm not sure it's going to happen.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:21 Eric McErlain
2:21
Steve Lepore: 
But that's another point for another day.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:21 Steve Lepore
2:21
James Mirtle: 
Leonsis is certainly excited: http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=240466
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:21 James Mirtle
2:21
[Comment From DoogieDoogie: ] 
Unless, of course, they put a ton of that into their online editions, though I don't know how much that'd really pay.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:21 Doogie
2:22
Eric McErlain: 
Tomorrow will be a big day -- Trophies at the practice facility, the ceremony with the Mayor, and a party at one of the city's swankiest restaurants.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:22 Eric McErlain
2:22
James Mirtle: 
you going to be in attendance?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:22 James Mirtle
2:22
Steve Lepore: 
Are you invited, Eric?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:22 Steve Lepore
2:22
Eric McErlain: 
The Caps are all the way back, and Leonsis is determined to make some hay out of it.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:22 Eric McErlain
2:23
James Mirtle: 
fair enough - he's earned that
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:23 James Mirtle
2:23
Eric McErlain: 
I'll be at the party tomorrow night, for sure.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:23 Eric McErlain
2:23
James Mirtle: 
When you say on the way back - is this a new peak for hockey in Washington? Or have you seen this level of interest in the past?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:23 James Mirtle
2:23
Eric McErlain: 
There's an early press availability, followed by the fun.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:23 Eric McErlain
2:23
James Mirtle: 
I'm hoping to see pictures from "the fun" personally
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:23 James Mirtle
2:23
Steve Lepore: 
It's not like there's a real baseball team to distract from coverage ;-).
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:23 Steve Lepore
2:24
Eric McErlain: 
In terms of actual success, it hasn't been this good for a decade.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:24 Eric McErlain
2:24
Eric McErlain: 
I went to 7 home playoff games in 1998 on the way to the Finals.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:24 Eric McErlain
2:24
Steve Lepore: 
can the Caps pass the Wizards in popularity?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:24 Steve Lepore
2:25
Eric McErlain: 
Only to see it stopped in its tracks in four straight -- which was very, very painful.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:25 Eric McErlain
2:25
Steve Lepore: 
Because I know in that area it's Redskins... then everyone else.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:25 Steve Lepore
2:25
Eric McErlain: 
Watching the visiting team win the Cup on your home ice is always tough.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:25 Eric McErlain
2:25
[Comment From Wally (in downtown DC)Wally (in downtown DC): ] 
Need some company for the party tomorrow?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:25 Wally (in downtown DC)
2:25
Eric McErlain: 
That's very true Steve.   The Caps have traditionally started slow attendance-wise, and then picked up dramatically once the football season ends.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:25 Eric McErlain
2:26
[Comment From WallyWally: ] 
I don't remember it being like this even when the Caps went to the finals in '98.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:26 Wally
2:26
[Comment From WallyWally: ] 
If Gilbert Areans doesn't re-sign, yes, the Caps could best the Wizards in popularity.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:26 Wally
2:26
Eric McErlain: 
As for the Wizards, Washington is a very big basketball town.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:26 Eric McErlain
2:26
James Mirtle: 
hockey needs someone named Arenas
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:26 James Mirtle
2:26
[Comment From WallyWally: ] 
Even if they win the Cup, the Caps won't be more popular than an 8-8 Redskins team. That's jus the way it is here.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:26 Wally
2:27
Steve Lepore: 
Exactly, Arenas is just a different kind of star.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:27 Steve Lepore
2:27
[Comment From NancyNancy: ] 
Arenas already filed the paperwork to opt out of his contract.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:27 Nancy
2:27
Eric McErlain: 
The city has been craving a winner out of the Wizards for a very long time, only to be undone by consistent failure.   Now that they've clawed their way back into the playoffs for a couple of years in a row, I think we've seen their fans respond in a big way as well.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:27 Eric McErlain
2:28
James Mirtle: 
well, a Jays-Raptors combined championship run wouldn't take the shine off the Leafs in Toronto either
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:28 James Mirtle
2:28
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
What about Crosby. He is Superman
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:28 Guest
2:28
[Comment From WallyWally: ] 
Ovie can be that type of star. Maybe he just needs a blog...
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:28 Wally
2:28
James Mirtle: 
he has one; it's in Russian
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:28 James Mirtle
2:28
Eric McErlain: 
The Caps -- and Leonsis in particular -- have done all the hard work.   They're back, they're a winner, and they have an identifiable superstar.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:28 Eric McErlain
2:29
Steve Lepore: 
I think they need to develop Green in that whole sidekick role. It can't just be Ovie, people who don't follow hockey need to know more than 1 name on that team.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:29 Steve Lepore
2:29
James Mirtle: 
http://sasha-ovechkin.livejournal.com/
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:29 James Mirtle
2:30
James Mirtle: 
is Ted spending up to the cap now every year?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:30 James Mirtle
2:30
James Mirtle: 
would a $60-million payroll be sustainable in Washington, Eric?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:30 James Mirtle
2:30
[Comment From DoogieDoogie: ] 
I actually have Ovechkin's blog bookmarked on my home computer; I was gonna practice my Russian reading, but that's fallen by the wayside big time.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:30 Doogie
2:30
James Mirtle: 
you can check it out using an online translator; he doesn't post frequently enough to make it that much of a read for me
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:30 James Mirtle
2:30
[Comment From WallyWally: ] 
Who's got that copy of Russian For Dummies?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:30 Wally
2:31
James Mirtle: 
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:31 James Mirtle
2:32
[Comment From WallyWally: ] 
Great. I'm spending my afternoon on this chat, now I'm gonna go translate Russian. Way to gelp my productivity.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:32 Wally
2:32
Steve Lepore: 
Can the Caps re-sign Huet, by the way?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:32 Steve Lepore
2:32
James Mirtle: 
he's going to want a big deal
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:32 James Mirtle
2:32
Steve Lepore: 
If they don't have a starting goalie, I can see them being doormats again this year.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:32 Steve Lepore
2:33
James Mirtle: 
If I'm Huet or his agent, I might consider waiting until July 1
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:33 James Mirtle
2:33
James Mirtle: 
there is a lot of demand for a bona fide starter, and he certainly showed last year that he's that
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:33 James Mirtle
2:35
Steve Lepore: 
That said, could you blame Leonsis for overpaying Huet?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:35 Steve Lepore
2:36
[Comment From DoogieDoogie: ] 
Well, no, but at what point does he have to draw the line? Remember the Tampa/Ottawa cautionary tales. He's got Ovechkin locked up for life, he's gonna have to pay Green and Semin and Backstrom eventually...
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:36 Doogie
2:37
Steve Lepore: 
That's true too, but i just don't see them going anywhere without a decent netminder.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:37 Steve Lepore
2:38
Eric McErlain: 
Sorry for dropping off there.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:38 Eric McErlain
2:38
Eric McErlain: 
As to the cap question, we really can't know that in D.C. until sometime well into July.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:38 Eric McErlain
2:39
[Comment From BlackcapricornBlackcapricorn: ] 
Nope but I still believe you have to build from goal out and if there is a guy is a top flight goalie who works with your team, I would open up my checkbook for someone like that
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:39 Blackcapricorn
2:39
[Comment From DoogieDoogie: ] 
That's true, and more than anything, it means one of the forwards probably winds up going sooner than he'd like, but it's always something GMs and owners need to keep in the back of their minds. It also bears pointing out that while Huet is good, he ain't $7M good.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:39 Doogie
2:39
Eric McErlain: 
There are just too many RFAs and UFAs to keep track of right now, and we can't be sure how to slot them all salary-wise.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:39 Eric McErlain
2:39
James Mirtle: 
let's say Huet wants a $25-million deal over five years; do you sign that?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:39 James Mirtle
2:39
[Comment From WallyWally: ] 
Yes, they have to have a good netminder to keep their momentum going (see Kolzig, Olaf). So overpay if you have to, but keep Huet.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:39 Wally
2:39
Eric McErlain: 
Remember, not only does Huet need to be signed, Mike Green is due a raise off his entry level contract too.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:39 Eric McErlain
2:39
Steve Lepore: 
I'd anticipate his play improving each year, and take it.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:39 Steve Lepore
2:40
Eric McErlain: 
Given the developmet pipeline in goal, I would think the Caps wouldn't want to commit to more than four years.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:40 Eric McErlain
2:40
Eric McErlain: 
Both Varlamov and Neuvirth are due in the minors this year.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:40 Eric McErlain
2:41
Eric McErlain: 
And the early word on Varlamov is very, very good.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:41 Eric McErlain
2:41
Steve Lepore: 
By the way, if anyone has some NHL TV questions, feel free to fire away.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:41 Steve Lepore
2:42
Eric McErlain: 
If you want a closer look at Washington's salary situation, check out http://nhlnumbers.com/overview.php?team=WAS&season=0809
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:42 Eric McErlain
2:42
[Comment From WallyWally: ] 
Well, then frontload the 5/$25mil contract and you can cut Huet after 4 yrs with less of an impact.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:42 Wally
2:42
Steve Lepore: 
They are in a rough spot.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:42 Steve Lepore
2:42
James Mirtle: 
that still hurts them against the cap during the length of the deal
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:42 James Mirtle
2:43
[Comment From DoogieDoogie: ] 
Yeah, I dunno about five years. Huet is on the wrong side of 30 for that sort of deal, I'd think.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:43 Doogie
2:43
James Mirtle: 
I think he can get a contract like that this year
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:43 James Mirtle
2:43
Eric McErlain: 
George McPhee has a deceptively challenging offseason ahead of him.

Thursday June 12, 2008 2:43 Eric McErlain
2:44
Eric McErlain: 
Here's his RFA class: Fehr, Gordon, Laich, Eminger, Green and Morrisonn.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:44 Eric McErlain
2:44
James Mirtle: 
no kidding

I mean, what does a kid like Laich get?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:44 James Mirtle
2:44
James Mirtle: 
Morrisonn had a solid year, too
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:44 James Mirtle
2:44
[Comment From DoogieDoogie: ] 
He's 33 in September, I'd probably be thinking in the three-year range, then re-evaluate from there based on his play and that of the kids in the system.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:44 Doogie
2:44
Eric McErlain: 
And the UFAs: Cook, Fedorov, Huet.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:44 Eric McErlain
2:44
[Comment From TattooDevilsfanTattooDevilsfan: ] 
What are John Maddens chances of win the Selke this year?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:44 TattooDevilsfan
2:44
James Mirtle: 
I think one of the Wings players wins it
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:44 James Mirtle
2:44
Eric McErlain: 
A lot of folks here credit Green's development in part to Morrisonn's strong play.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:44 Eric McErlain
2:45
James Mirtle: 
Madden's chances = ~10-15%
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:45 James Mirtle
2:45
[Comment From WallyWally: ] 
You are seroiusly killing the awesome "Caps buzz" I had going.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:45 Wally
2:45
James Mirtle: 
this is the salary cap buzz... entirely different
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:45 James Mirtle
2:45
Eric McErlain: 
Sorry, Wally.   But it's a reality that every team has to face.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:45 Eric McErlain
2:46
Steve Lepore: 
Tattoo, Maddog may have a 20 goal season, but he'll never get noticed again for a Selke as long as Dats and Z are healthy.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:46 Steve Lepore
2:46
Eric McErlain: 
The good news is the current Cap comittment is around $36 million.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:46 Eric McErlain
2:46
Steve Lepore: 
By the way, breaking news: NHL2K9 will be available for Wii this Fall.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:46 Steve Lepore
2:46
Eric McErlain: 
There is some money to play with.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:46 Eric McErlain
2:46
Eric McErlain: 
Great NHL2K9 news, IMHO, as a happy Wii owner.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:46 Eric McErlain
2:46
Steve Lepore: 
Making it the first hockey NHL/PA licensed hockey game on the market for the Wii.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:46 Steve Lepore
2:47
Eric McErlain: 
All they have for the Wii at this point is some kiddy hockey game.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:47 Eric McErlain
2:47
Steve Lepore: 
Apparently developing the Wii-mote as a hockey stick technology.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:47 Steve Lepore
2:48
Eric McErlain: 
That's going to be very interesting.   I may need to find a bigger room for my television.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:48 Eric McErlain
2:48
Steve Lepore: 
Looks like for now it'll just be a standard Wii-mote play, but how cool would that be?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:48 Steve Lepore
2:48
Eric McErlain: 
I have a question for James.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:48 Eric McErlain
2:48
[Comment From hockey townhockey town: ] 
All Red at the awards
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:48 hockey town
2:48
[Comment From TattooDevilsfanTattooDevilsfan: ] 
is that because Detroit won the cup and Datsyuk is the front runner?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:48 TattooDevilsfan
2:48
James Mirtle: 
the award is voted on before the playoffs
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:48 James Mirtle
2:48
Eric McErlain: 
How bummed is Steve Stamkos about having to play in Tampa?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:48 Eric McErlain
2:49
James Mirtle: 
I don't think he is at all
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:49 James Mirtle
2:49
James Mirtle: 
he sounds like a great kid, excited to be drafted and get a lot of playing time
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:49 James Mirtle
2:49
Eric McErlain: 
The fact is, it has turned into a town that strongly supports the team.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:49 Eric McErlain
2:49
James Mirtle: 
he'll be one of those "good guys" we're talking about in a few years;
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:49 James Mirtle
2:49
Steve Lepore: 
I hear there's a
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:49 Steve Lepore
2:49
Steve Lepore: 
cocky streak to him.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:49 Steve Lepore
2:49
Steve Lepore: 
Sorry about that.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:49 Steve Lepore
2:49
James Mirtle: 
heck, what 18 year old wouldn't want to be a professional athlete in Florida?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:49 James Mirtle
2:50
James Mirtle: 
I don't see that
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:50 James Mirtle
2:50
Eric McErlain: 
And here's another question: How likely are we to see Vincent Lecavalier leave at the end of his contract?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:50 Eric McErlain
2:50
Steve Lepore: 
I read somewhere in THN that he was a little cocky, but not in a way that'll be detrimental.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:50 Steve Lepore
2:51
Eric McErlain: 
I don't mind cocky.   It's lazy that bothers me.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:51 Eric McErlain
2:51
Steve Lepore: 
Eric, I think they'll pay him any amount of money in the world. And I honestly think he likes it in Tampa. You don't drop 2 Mill on a children's hospital in the area and leave a year later.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:51 Steve Lepore
2:51
Steve Lepore: 
3 Mill, I should say.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:51 Steve Lepore
2:51
Eric McErlain: 
We still have over 1,200 people in the room.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:51 Eric McErlain
2:51
James Mirtle: 
the new ownership is apparently in love with Vinny
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:51 James Mirtle
2:52
James Mirtle: 
and judging by the Boyle deal, he can write his own ticket
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:52 James Mirtle
2:52
Eric McErlain: 
And over 15,000 total viewers for the chat, now coming up on the 2-hr mark.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:52 Eric McErlain
2:52
[Comment From Alex in LVAlex in LV: ] 
every team except the Leafs.... they have no talented players worth keeping around
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:52 Alex in LV
2:52
[Comment From TattooDevilsfanTattooDevilsfan: ] 
That's unfortunate cause he's an awesome player and deserves it
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:52 TattooDevilsfan
2:52
James Mirtle: 
agreed on Madden
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:52 James Mirtle
2:52
Steve Lepore: 
Lecavalier could become the first real Tampa Sports Legend if he stayed.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:52 Steve Lepore
2:52
James Mirtle: 
but I've broken down the numbers on the Selke, and he was behind the Red Wings pair
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:52 James Mirtle
2:52
Eric McErlain: 
James -- what's your take on Wilson?   I think he's going to have a very difficult time -- at least at first.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:52 Eric McErlain
2:52
James Mirtle: 
it's hard to be a legend on a bottom feeder
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:52 James Mirtle
2:53
Steve Lepore: 
And with the Rays becoming passable the same year the Bolts miss the playoffs, negative publicity is a no-no for the Lightning.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:53 Steve Lepore
2:53
James Mirtle: 
there could be some very lean times for the Lightning coming up
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:53 James Mirtle
2:53
Steve Lepore: 
Mirtle, that division is still to a point where anyone could win it. Unless the Caps re-sign Huet, there's not really a dominant club.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:53 Steve Lepore
2:54
James Mirtle: 
I think Wilson can potentially get that team in the playoffs, as crazy as that sounds
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:54 James Mirtle
2:54
James Mirtle: 
it depends what the Leafs do with their roster; if it's a complete gutting of the team, it won't matter what Wilson does
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:54 James Mirtle
2:54
Steve Lepore: 
They were teases the past couple years. It's not as if they haven't had a sniff.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:54 Steve Lepore
2:54
[Comment From BlackcapricornBlackcapricorn: ] 
they have 2 topflight forwards left and depending on the Dallas goalie shakes out, who knows?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:54 Blackcapricorn
2:54
[Comment From Alex in LVAlex in LV: ] 
good place to be drafted in TB... no pressure, good weather, great money, low expectations... then he can move somewhere else once he hits FA
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:54 Alex in LV
2:55
James Mirtle: 
exactly Alex
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:55 James Mirtle
2:55
Eric McErlain: 
So do you stay the course for one more year, or do you start the rebuild now in anticipation of Burke's arrival?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:55 Eric McErlain
2:55
Steve Lepore: 
Is Paul Maurice still coach if the Isles lose that Sunday afternoon game with the Devils at the end of 06-07?
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:55 Steve Lepore
2:55
James Mirtle: 
sorry - conversation's jumping around here.   a lot of comments in the queue now
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:55 James Mirtle
2:55
Eric McErlain: 
A good question, Steve.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:55 Eric McErlain
2:55
James Mirtle: 
in my opinion? I think Toronto should tear down and hand the keys to Burke with some youth in the system
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:55 James Mirtle
2:56
James Mirtle: 
I don't think Maurice, overall, did a very good job with what he had
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:56 James Mirtle
2:56
James Mirtle: 
this team wasn't a world beater, but surely they were better defensively and on the PK than how they performed
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:56 James Mirtle
2:56
Steve Lepore: 
Toronto is a team with some pieces.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:56 Steve Lepore
2:56
Eric McErlain: 
I agree on the rebuild.   It's painful to experience up close, but delay is a killer.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:56 Eric McErlain
2:56
Eric McErlain: 
The longer you wait, the worse it will get.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:56 Eric McErlain
2:57
Eric McErlain: 
If any team can survive a rebuild, it would have to be Toronto.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:57 Eric McErlain
2:57
James Mirtle: 
oh there's no question. In fact, I think fans are calling out for it
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:57 James Mirtle
2:58
[Comment From cory crosscory cross: ] 
wilson getting toronto in the playoffs doesnt sound crazy... the caps being dominant b/c they resign huet sounds crazy!!
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:58 cory cross
2:58
Steve Lepore: 
Exactly, I mean, look at the Knicks in the NBA. They are what Toronto could turn into if they keep delaying.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:58 Steve Lepore
2:58
[Comment From Earl SleekEarl Sleek: ] 
Yeah, I think Burke needs to come into TO with a bare-bones roster. He was able to gut Anaheim at the end of the lockout, but I don't think you can move a Fedorov-contract like he did anymore.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:58 Earl Sleek
2:58
[Comment From cory crosscory cross: ] 
they blew their biggest chance to rebuild when all their guys refused to go at the trade deadline .
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:58 cory cross
2:58
Eric McErlain: 
That was a very puzzling situation, Cory.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:58 Eric McErlain
2:58
James Mirtle: 
I think you can deal McCabe now
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:58 James Mirtle
2:58
James Mirtle: 
move him for nothing if he'll waive his no-trade
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:58 James Mirtle
2:58
Steve Lepore: 
Cory Cross, I mean with that Division, the chance to be a dominant team among those 5 is there for the Caps.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:58 Steve Lepore
2:59
Eric McErlain: 
I need to drop off here, James.
Thursday June 12, 2008 2:59 Eric McErlain
3:00
James Mirtle: 
See ya Eric
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:00 James Mirtle
3:00
[Comment From Alex in LVAlex in LV: ] 
the craziest thing in TO this year was probably the Marlies playing that old goalie instead of Pogge... This just shows that organization cannot handle the concept of rebuilding
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:00 Alex in LV
3:00
Steve Lepore: 
Bye Eric.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:00 Steve Lepore
3:00
Eric McErlain: 
Thanks to everyone -- all 15K+ -- for participating.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:00 Eric McErlain
3:00
Eric McErlain: 
Best to you too, Steve.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:00 Eric McErlain
3:00
James Mirtle: 
You're right Alex -- the Marlies weren't exactly run like a farm team this season
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:00 James Mirtle
3:01
James Mirtle: 
I watched them live in the playoffs, and there were an awful lot of career minor leaguers on that team
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:01 James Mirtle
3:01
Steve Lepore: 
They're trying to build an AHL team to win, not develop
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:01 Steve Lepore
3:01
James Mirtle: 
the affiliate has to become a much more important part of what they're doing
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:01 James Mirtle
3:01
[Comment From BlackcapricornBlackcapricorn: ] 
James do you think there really will be buyouts in TO if they can't get these guys to waive in the offseason, what IS the mentality in that dressing room with those Leaves?
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:01 Blackcapricorn
3:02
James Mirtle: 
I do think there will be buyouts
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:02 James Mirtle
3:02
James Mirtle: 
it makes sense for Fletcher to "clear the decks," as he said earlier
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:02 James Mirtle
3:02
James Mirtle: 
the mentality? hey, those guys have it made. Toronto's a fun place to play
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:02 James Mirtle
3:02
[Comment From Earl SleekEarl Sleek: ] 
One other thing, Leafs fans, I wouldn't get too attached to any current Leafs not born in North America. Since Burke's been at the Ducks' helm, pretty much every European not named Pahlsson or Selanne has been shown the door.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:02 Earl Sleek
3:03
Steve Lepore: 
Don Cherry will be a happy, happy man.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:03 Steve Lepore
3:03
James Mirtle: 
an interesting thing to consider given who just won the Cup
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:03 James Mirtle
3:04
James Mirtle: 
Sleek - what's your take on the Burke business? It really is starting to sound like a done deal
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:04 James Mirtle
3:04
James Mirtle: 
Ducks ownership is shaky again given the charges against Samueli, too
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:04 James Mirtle
3:04
[Comment From cory crosscory cross: ] 
fair enough SL, the division is bad enough that could be true even if they stuck with kolzig. huet is no star.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:04 cory cross
3:05
[Comment From Earl SleekEarl Sleek: ] 
I don't really know--I'm going off Toronto rumours just like everyone else. I can only say that Burke built a roster that comes to an end next summer, so it's a logical time for him to leave if he wants. No real bitterness here if he does -- at least the Ducks aren't tied up to any bad contracts the next couple of years.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:05 Earl Sleek
3:06
James Mirtle: 
Until they trade Perry for McCabe this fall
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:06 James Mirtle
3:06
[Comment From Earl SleekEarl Sleek: ] 
Can't speak too much on Samueli, either, though I haven't heard anything that speaks to the Ducks changing hands. I'm guessing Samueli is an embarrassment but not a deal-breaker.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:06 Earl Sleek
3:06
Steve Lepore: 
Well, he got you a Cup and you don't have really any bad contracts. As long as you get a decent replacement, there should be no bitterness.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:06 Steve Lepore
3:06
James Mirtle: 
I do think his prolbems affect whether Burke wants to stay
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:06 James Mirtle
3:08
[Comment From Earl SleekEarl Sleek: ] 
My feeling is that Burke's decision probably doesn't concern any Samueli news -- Samuelis have been really good owners to him. It's just the TO allure (and payroll) that are motivating him, I think.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:08 Earl Sleek
3:08
James Mirtle: 
Samueli may, in theory, be put in a situation where he has to sell immediately
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:08 James Mirtle
3:08
Steve Lepore: 
I don't know, if he'd want a job like Toronto to interfere with the Team USA job.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:08 Steve Lepore
3:09
James Mirtle: 
that puts strain on the organization, could limit payroll and could affect Burke's ability to win
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:09 James Mirtle
3:09
Steve Lepore: 
Mirtle, do you suppose Bruckheimer would buy the Ducks?
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:09 Steve Lepore
3:09
James Mirtle: 
at the very least, it's a headache he may not want
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:09 James Mirtle
3:09
James Mirtle: 
I guess that's a possibility. For some reason, he seems set on Vegas
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:09 James Mirtle
3:10
Steve Lepore: 
I heard he was meeting with Burke too.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:10 Steve Lepore
3:10
[Comment From Alex in LVAlex in LV: ] 
please please bring a team to Vegas... im tired of only hearing about college sports on sports radio here
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:10 Alex in LV
3:10
James Mirtle: 
hah, there you go

what do you think the demand for hockey would be Alex?
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:10 James Mirtle
3:10
Steve Lepore: 
Well Vegas draws great numbers for hockey on TV.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:10 Steve Lepore
3:10
[Comment From Earl SleekEarl Sleek: ] 
yeah, though I haven't thought about the Samueli charges as being that significant (that he has to sell immediately). He's one of a couple names in that civil suit, and my dad (more expert than I am) thinks it probably blows over with a large check.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:10 Earl Sleek
3:11
Steve Lepore: 
Game 5 of the Finals they were in the Top 10 markets as far as ratings
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:11 Steve Lepore
3:12
Steve Lepore: 
#5 for the Winter Classic too.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:12 Steve Lepore
3:12
Steve Lepore: 
Certainly a lot of expats of big market teams there, I'd imagine.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:12 Steve Lepore
3:12
[Comment From Alex in LVAlex in LV: ] 
I think hockey would do great. This city is starved for any pro team generating some hype
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:12 Alex in LV
3:13
James Mirtle: 
it'd certainly be interesting

Maybe the paper out there needs a Canadian beat writer?
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:13 James Mirtle
3:13
[Comment From alexcalexc: ] 
who gunna win the finals for basketball?
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:13 alexc
3:13
James Mirtle: 
wait a minute - sorry for letting that guy in there
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:13 James Mirtle
3:13
Steve Lepore: 
I'll be out of college by the time a team gets up there, I'll take the job.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:13 Steve Lepore
3:13
Steve Lepore: 
alexc, whoever the refs want to win.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:13 Steve Lepore
3:14
James Mirtle: 
we're going to wrap here at about 3:30

final thoughts and questions begin now
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:14 James Mirtle
3:14
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
doesnt montreal have an interesting choice to make... hossa this yr or save the money for vinny next?
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:14 Guest
3:14
[Comment From TattooDevilsfanTattooDevilsfan: ] 
Do you think the Devils are in a Rebuilding stage? There offense was disappointing last year. Without Parise who knows where they would have finished?
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:14 TattooDevilsfan
3:14
[Comment From Alex in LVAlex in LV: ] 
and its really a town of newcomers so you have tons of people from the northeast...I get asked if I'm from Pittsburgh too all the time I wear my Pens jersey
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:14 Alex in LV
3:14
Steve Lepore: 
Tattoo, Lou will never admit to rebuilding, and until Marty retires, he won't even try.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:14 Steve Lepore
3:14
Steve Lepore: 
Guest, I honestly think Vinny's resigning with Tampa.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:14 Steve Lepore
3:15
[Comment From DoogieDoogie: ] 
I really don't know if Vinny wants to go to Montreal. It's a dramatically different atmosphere than Tampa, almost the polar opposite. The expectations and pressure there would be psychotic. I dunno if he'd really want to be the Great French Hope.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:15 Doogie
3:15
James Mirtle: 
no, he doesn't strike me as a guy who loves the media side of his job
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:15 James Mirtle
3:16
Steve Lepore: 
Again, he has $3 Million tied up in a children's hospital there. I don't think you just leave that.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:16 Steve Lepore
3:16
James Mirtle: 
it could get ugly in Tampa with the ownership situation, so it's hard to know exactly
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:16 James Mirtle
3:16
[Comment From Alex in LVAlex in LV: ] 
NJ has some good pieces up front, its that defense that needs lots of work. Losing Niedermeyer then Rafalski seriously affects the transition game and your forwards' play
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:16 Alex in LV
3:17
[Comment From Jes GolbezJes Golbez: ] 
nor the nice winters
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:17 Jes Golbez
3:17
[Comment From WallyWally: ] 
Where will Hossa land?
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:17 Wally
3:17
James Mirtle: 
wherever the highest bidder comes in
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:17 James Mirtle
3:17
Steve Lepore: 
Sadly, the defense wasn't the problem for the 2nd half of the year for the Devils. If they re-sign Bryce Salvador, you have 6 servicable d-men.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:17 Steve Lepore
3:17
James Mirtle: 
it's interesting that we're hearing about Pittsburgh trading the rights to several UFAs before July 1
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:17 James Mirtle
3:17
Steve Lepore: 
Plus, remember that Colin White was playing injured all season with his eye.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:17 Steve Lepore
3:17
[Comment From Jes GolbezJes Golbez: ] 
Wally, probably at an airport
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:17 Jes Golbez
3:19
[Comment From Jes GolbezJes Golbez: ] 
Wow, I am amazed 40% of people would not vote for Brodeur over that other chaff for the Vezina
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:19 Jes Golbez
3:19
[Comment From cory crosscory cross: ] 
the concept of trading an UFA (or trading for an UFA) is ridiculous and if i werent for the performance of timonnen and hartnerll this year, it woul dnever be done again.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:19 cory cross
3:19
[Comment From BlackcapricornBlackcapricorn: ] 
I have to say these chats definitely ease the pain during the offseason
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:19 Blackcapricorn
3:20
[Comment From Alex in LVAlex in LV: ] 
poll results: 19% other for Hart trophy?? who the hell are people voting for??
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:20 Alex in LV
3:20
Steve Lepore: 
Jes, there is still some anti-Marty sentiment from not shaking that f-tard Avery's AIDS-infected hands.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:20 Steve Lepore
3:20
[Comment From Jes GolbezJes Golbez: ] 
Probably Pavol Demitra
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:20 Jes Golbez
3:20
James Mirtle: 
people like to monkey around on the polls, that's for sure
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:20 James Mirtle
3:22
[Comment From BlackcapricornBlackcapricorn: ] 
SL- tell us what you REALLY think of Avery
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:22 Blackcapricorn
3:22
James Mirtle: 
no, no, not on awards night
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:22 James Mirtle
3:22
Steve Lepore: 
Oh, that'll be a day. That's for another liveblog though.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:22 Steve Lepore
3:22
[Comment From Jes GolbezJes Golbez: ] 
seeing the Stanley Cup tower over Verne Troyer = teh funny
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:22 Jes Golbez
3:22
James Mirtle: 
that's a great picture
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/-The-Love-Guru-premiere-photos-confirm-Yes-th?urn=nhl,87583
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:22 James Mirtle
3:22
Steve Lepore: 
I'd love Marty to win and have him say, "I'd now like to shake the hand of everyone in the audinence".
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:22 Steve Lepore
3:23
[Comment From NancyNancy: ] 
Does Avery stay with the Rangers?
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:23 Nancy
3:23
James Mirtle: 
It'd going to be awfully tough for New York to keep everyone there
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:23 James Mirtle
3:23
James Mirtle: 
Avery could command a lot more than people think; the real question is if he settles for less to stay in New York and work as an intern
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:23 James Mirtle
3:23
[Comment From Jes GolbezJes Golbez: ] 
Marty stole the last piece of pizza! (Delissio commercial)
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:23 Jes Golbez
3:24
Steve Lepore: 
Avery seems a bit of nomad, he'll go anywhere big market.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:24 Steve Lepore
3:24
[Comment From BlackcapricornBlackcapricorn: ] 
Anywhere that houses a fashion magazine you mean?
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:24 Blackcapricorn
3:25
[Comment From cory crosscory cross: ] 
Avery needs to be in NY or LA and he has already worn out his welcome in LA. I liv ein NY and see him out all the time. He thinks he is a movie star
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:25 cory cross
3:25
Steve Lepore: 
Chicago's a possibility
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:25 Steve Lepore
3:25
James Mirtle: 
he could always play in Long Island or something
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:25 James Mirtle
3:25
[Comment From Jes GolbezJes Golbez: ] 
Avery with the Isles? oooh, that'd be rich.. Avery and Comrie
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:25 Jes Golbez
3:25
James Mirtle: 
he'd certainly get big minutes there
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:25 James Mirtle
3:26
[Comment From Jes GolbezJes Golbez: ] 
I dunno, Richard Park and Shawn Bates are gonna soak up 20 mins a night on that stacked team
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:26 Jes Golbez
3:27
James Mirtle: 
All righty, everyone - thanks so much for coming out today
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:27 James Mirtle
3:27
Steve Lepore: 
Anytime, James. Have a good one.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:27 Steve Lepore
3:27
James Mirtle: 
we had more than 20,000 readers, which just shows people are still ready for hockey chat in the middle of June
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:27 James Mirtle
3:28
James Mirtle: 
and stay tuned for tonight's awards gala, which gets underway at 7 p.m.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:28 James Mirtle
3:28
Steve Lepore: 
Afternoon, all.
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:28 Steve Lepore
3:29
James Mirtle: 
for Steve Lepore from Kukla's Korner, I'm James Mirtle signing off for AOL FanHouse

check back tonight for more coverage of the winners
Thursday June 12, 2008 3:29 James Mirtle
3:29



 
 
 
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