Vice Presidential Debate 2012 - Oct. 11
 
8:42
Meegan Holland | MLive: 
Hi everybody. Meegan Holland here, statewide news editor for MLive. I'll be moderating tonight's vice presidential debate between U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin and Vice President Joe Biden.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:42 Meegan Holland | MLive
8:43
Meegan Holland | MLive: 
Tonight, I'll be joined by MLive statewide reporters Dave Eggert and Dave Murray. And you'll be happy to know that Dave Murray will provide Detroit Tigers updates!
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:43 Meegan Holland | MLive
8:44
Meegan Holland | MLive: 
We'll also be joined by Tom Shields and Greg McNeilly, two respected Republican political consultants. And Democratic consultants Joe DiSano and T.J. Bucholz will also provide commentary.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:44 Meegan Holland | MLive
8:45
Meegan Holland | MLive: 
Let me know who you think will be the better debater tonight - Ryan ... or Biden?
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:45 Meegan Holland | MLive
8:45
Debate moderator tells the audience not to tweet during the debate.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:45 thinkprogress
8:45
"The moderator doesnt want to get in the way, but he does control the realm." - @JenGranholm #VPDebate #Current2012
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:45 GranholmTWR
8:46
Meegan Holland | MLive: 
ThinkProgress is one of the Twitter users whose tweets will be automated into our feed tonight. And Jennifer Granholm, as you can see.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:46 Meegan Holland | MLive
8:47
Meegan Holland | MLive: 
We'll also have Republican Twitter users' tweets tonight.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:47 Meegan Holland | MLive
8:47
[Comment From T.J. BucholzT.J. Bucholz: ] 
Hi Meegan.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:47 T.J. Bucholz
8:47
Meegan Holland | MLive: 
Hey TJ! Welcome to our chat.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:47 Meegan Holland | MLive
8:47
Live video now: Nate Silver of @fivethirtyeight is offering insight on recent polls nyti.ms/RAKxR7
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:47 thecaucus
8:47
TONIGHT: Tweet #LyinRyan every time you hear Paul Ryan tell a whopper! pic.twitter.com/lFHV9svn
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:47 MoveOn
8:48
T.J. Bucholz: 
Thanks for having me.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:48 T.J. Bucholz
8:48
Meegan Holland | MLive: 
There's lots of talk that these two guys will be a bit more pit-bullish than their presidential counterparts tonight. Do you expect that, TJ?
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:48 Meegan Holland | MLive
8:48
Our live-blog of the VP debate, including real-time fact checking, HERE: thkpr.gs/Q3jLPK
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:48 thinkprogress
8:48
T.J. Bucholz: 
For sure, Meegan. More fireworks in this debate, guaranteed.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:48 T.J. Bucholz
8:48
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
Maybe Obama won't mention the 47% because a lot of people agree with what Romney said on the issue.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:48 Guest
8:48
Meegan Holland | MLive: 
Hey Guest, can you fill in your name or handle in the Guest box so we can distinguish you from other chat participants?
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:48 Meegan Holland | MLive
8:49
Greg McNeilly: 
Evening all!
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:49 Greg McNeilly
8:49
Follow Biden & Ryan's debate wherever you are on NYT's apps for iPad, iPhone, Android and other devices nyti.ms/RkhmEJ
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:49 nytimes
8:49
Meegan Holland | MLive: 
Hey Greg, thanks for returning as one of our panelists!
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:49 Meegan Holland | MLive
8:49
Meegan Holland | MLive: 
By the way, the NY Times says they're doing real-time fact checks tonight.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:49 Meegan Holland | MLive
8:49
[Comment From warrywarry: ] 
right
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:49 warry
8:50
Greg McNeilly: 
I wonder what Martha got as a wedding gift? (Not a cheap shot, sincere wonderment!)
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:50 Greg McNeilly
8:50
Greg McNeilly: 
I don't like these sit down table debates...they seem lacking for the status of the office.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:50 Greg McNeilly
8:51
T.J. Bucholz: 
Yeah, why not use Piers Morgan. Too casual.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:51 T.J. Bucholz
8:51
Ryan insisted that the debate moderator call him "mister" not "Congressman" thkpr.gs/Q3kCzN
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:51 thinkprogress
8:52
David Eggert: 
Welcome everyone. Who's got two TVs to watch Tigers and debate simultaneously?
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:52 David Eggert
8:52
Meegan Holland | MLive: 
Greg, I'm actually not a fan of town hall forums, because the questions always seem too polite and contrived. But tonight, it's an open question debate.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:52 Meegan Holland | MLive
8:52
Meegan Holland | MLive: 
Welcome Dave! Dave is our politics reporter for MLive.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:52 Meegan Holland | MLive
8:53
Greg McNeilly: 
Old school here, moderated podium fights are best..... or for a draw, Aaron Burr / Hamilton style with pistols
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:53 Greg McNeilly
8:53
T.J. Bucholz: 
I think Biden can't sit back and play defense tonight. He's got to be aggressive, and that's dangerous for the VP.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:53 T.J. Bucholz
8:53
PRE-DEBATE MEALS: Biden (Grilled chicken, Spaghetti, Salad, M&Ms, Animal Crackers, Gatorade); Ryan (Salmon, Rice) thkpr.gs/Q3kZdR
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:53 thinkprogress
8:53
And we'll be looking for tweets using #LyinRyan if Ryan tries to repeat his convention performance and fill the debate with lies.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:53 MoveOn
8:53
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:53 marikatogo
8:54
Joe DiSano: 
Biden better bring a broken bottle to this debate.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:54 Joe DiSano
8:54
Greg McNeilly: 
Understand TJ, but the generational difference gives him the ability to go further...usually....
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:54 Greg McNeilly
8:54
Meegan Holland | MLive: 
Biden's an experienced debater. He can handle it.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:54 Meegan Holland | MLive
8:54
T.J. Bucholz: 
Biden was very controlled during the DNC. If he's off the chain, there's no telling where he will go.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:54 T.J. Bucholz
8:54
David Eggert: 
So what do people remember about the VP debate four years ago? It obviously had a ton of attention due to Palin. Do people remember how Biden performed?
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:54 David Eggert
8:55
Greg McNeilly: 
Agreed Meegan. Remember how calm he was with Palin...he knows how to fit the occasion.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:55 Greg McNeilly
8:55
Meegan Holland | MLive: 
Dave, I remember Sarah Palin asking Biden if she could call him Joe....
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:55 Meegan Holland | MLive
8:55
Greg McNeilly: 
Ryan's job is not take bait on his record, defend Mitt and prosecute Obama
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:55 Greg McNeilly
8:55
[Comment From tom shieldstom shields: ] 
Good evening everuyone
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:55 tom shields
8:55
T.J. Bucholz: 
I think Ryan will have a tendency to try and wonk the crowd to death.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:55 T.J. Bucholz
8:55
Meegan Holland | MLive: 
Welcome Tom! Our fourth panelist has joined the chat.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:55 Meegan Holland | MLive
8:56
Meegan Holland | MLive: 
I also remember talk from four years ago that Biden needed to make sure he didn't come off as condescending to Palin.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:56 Meegan Holland | MLive
8:56
T.J. Bucholz: 
Some senior GOP advisors have said Ryan may have spent too much time overpreparing this week.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:56 T.J. Bucholz
8:56
Greg McNeilly: 
I like looking at the audience and playing K Street bingo
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:56 Greg McNeilly
8:56
Greg McNeilly: 
TJ, i think they could be right.
Thursday October 11, 2012 8:56 Greg McNeilly
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