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Thursday September 6, 2012

9:25

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Hey everyone, Meegan Holland of MLive here. I'll be moderating tonight's chat.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:25 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:27

Meegan Holland - MLive:

We'll be talking about the convention in general, Jennifer Granholm's speech and any other Democratic Convention doings that are noteworthy.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:27 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:27

T.J. Bucholz:

Hello Meegan!

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:27 T.J. Bucholz

9:28

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Hey T.J.!

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:28 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:28

Meegan Holland - MLive:

T.J. is a political consultant with Lambert Edwards & Associates.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:28 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:28

Meegan Holland - MLive:

We have both Democratic and Republican leanings on our panel. I'd say TJ, you'd lean left. :)

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:28 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:28

[Comment From Mr. Michael StrattonMr. Michael Stratton: ]

I'm here. I thought Jennifer was outstanding.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:28 Mr. Michael Stratton

9:29

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Welcome Michael! So you thought Jennifer nailed it, huh?

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:29 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:29

T.J. Bucholz:

I qualify myself as a pragmatic Democrat.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:29 T.J. Bucholz

9:29

[Comment From Mr. Michael StrattonMr. Michael Stratton: ]

She was feisty.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:29 Mr. Michael Stratton

9:29

Greg McNeilly:

Evening all!

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:29 Greg McNeilly

9:29

T.J. Bucholz:

I wish the Governor would have made her point about the auto rescue differently.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:29 T.J. Bucholz

9:30

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Hi Greg! Greg is a Republican political consultant on our panel this evening. Thanks for joining us!

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:30 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:30

Meegan Holland - MLive:

TJ, how so?

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:30 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:30

Greg McNeilly:

Thanks Meegan

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:30 Greg McNeilly

9:30

T.J. Bucholz:

She could have been bolder by saying it this way: Bush got it, Obama gets it, but Mitt doesn't. She overlooked that Bush also proposed loans for the auto bailout.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:30 T.J. Bucholz

9:31

John Truscott:

JT is here too

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:31 John Truscott

9:31

Greg McNeilly:

Bush told Obama 6 days after the 2008 election, I'll fix this, you won't have to clean it up. But Team Obama would rather not give him credit when blame has a better ROI.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:31 Greg McNeilly

9:31

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Indeed she did overlook that. Our MLive reporter at the convention luckily pointed that out in our story tonight. http://www.mlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/09/former_gov_jennifer_granholm_d.html

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:31 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:32

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Hey John! John is one of our panelists tonight also. He was spokesman for Gov. John Engler and is now with Truscott-Rossman in Lansing.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:32 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:32

[Comment From Mr. Michael StrattonMr. Michael Stratton: ]

That Romney gives his cars the elevator but the workers the shaft? I thought that was pointed. But it made the point.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:32 Mr. Michael Stratton

9:32

Greg McNeilly:

Whew. For a minute I thought he'd reject the nomination and we'd have more out of work late night TV comedy writers.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:32 Greg McNeilly

9:32

T.J. Bucholz:

Well, it's certainly not like the President didn't go to bat for the auto industry. But she could have driven a deeper wedge about Romney being out of touch with policymakers.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:32 T.J. Bucholz

9:33

T.J. Bucholz:

Missed opportunity.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:33 T.J. Bucholz

9:33

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Good point, TJ. Did anyone think Granholm was a little over-caffeinated? She almost reminded me of Howard Dean...

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:33 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:33

T.J. Bucholz:

A little too pointy.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:33 T.J. Bucholz

9:33

Greg McNeilly:

She's trying to out do Rachel Maddow

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:33 Greg McNeilly

9:33

John Truscott:

Keep in mind - it was our money. The Taxpayers paid for the bail out. Obama has an easy time freely spending our money.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:33 John Truscott

9:34

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Apparently there's buzz Granholm may get a position in Obama's cabinet if he wins. But I think she's liking her stint on Current TV.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:34 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:34

Greg McNeilly:

BTW, the DNC video painted Biden as son of a "auto worker." Cute spin. His dad OWNED an auto dealership

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:34 Greg McNeilly

9:34

T.J. Bucholz:

I wish every taxpayer benefitted like Wall Street did and like the institutions who put us there in the first plae did.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:34 T.J. Bucholz

9:34

[Comment From tspelczechtspelczech: ]

Wow, MLive! You've got quite the balanced panel tonight.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:34 tspelczech

9:35

Meegan Holland - MLive:

I should also say that her tweets - if she tweets - will be automated to this chat, along with Republican spokesman Matt Frendewey's tweets.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:35 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:35

Jonathan Oosting:

Hey all, Jonathan Oosting here. Granholm's speech is getting tons of buzz. BuzzFeed even gave it the animated .gif treatment. http://www.buzzfeed.com/dorsey/jennifer-granholm-en-fuego-at-the-dnc

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:35 Jonathan Oosting

9:35

Meegan Holland - MLive:

tspelczech, we do have two Republicans and two Dems on our panel.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:35 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:35

[Comment From Carol DrostCarol Drost: ]

Well, she only had six minutes. But I'm no longer a Michigander, so I guess I'm seeing it from a distance.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:35 Carol Drost

9:35

Greg McNeilly:

Odd that Biden history doesn't include the 17 warnings Bush gave to the U.S. Senate in 2008 about the pending issues with Fannie/Freddy.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:35 Greg McNeilly

9:35

John Truscott:

I thought Granholm's speech would make a great SNL skit

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:35 John Truscott

9:36

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Carol, welcome to the chat! Carol is a former roommate of mine from Kalamazoo College. :)

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:36 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:36

Greg McNeilly:

LOL JT!

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:36 Greg McNeilly

9:36

[Comment From Tim MartinTim Martin: ]

Hello everyone...how's the buildup to the main speech going?

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:36 Tim Martin

9:36

T.J. Bucholz:

I can't wait for Bill Hader to send up Eastwood in a couple weeks.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:36 T.J. Bucholz

9:36	Time to play teacher again! How would you rate Jennifer Granholm's DNC speech? A ( 33% ) B ( 17% ) C ( 6% ) D ( 11% ) E ( 0% ) F ( 33% ) Thursday September 6, 2012 9:36

9:36

Greg McNeilly:

Carol, please spill the stories! :)

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:36 Greg McNeilly

9:36

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Welcome Tim! Tim is one of our state Capitol reporters.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:36 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:36

[Comment From tspelczechtspelczech: ]

Meegan, I see that, but so far, your GOP folks are just taking potshots instead of offering any kind of constructive analysis.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:36 tspelczech

9:37

Greg McNeilly:

Do you think Biden is wearing a gaffe preventing pain collar under his shirt?

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:37 Greg McNeilly

9:37

T.J. Bucholz:

Ha!

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:37 T.J. Bucholz

9:37

Meegan Holland - MLive:

tspeclczech, we're looking for insights and wit. Civil potshots are allowed. You can take a few of your own. :)

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:37 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:37

[Comment From Carol DrostCarol Drost: ]

Oh, the stories I could tell!

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:37 Carol Drost

9:37	Current TV @current Watch Current TV @GranholmTWR host Jennifer Granholm's #DNC2012 speech: bit.ly/Orj0k0 & RT! #Current2012 Thursday September 6, 2012 9:37 current

9:37

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Carol, not on THIS chat!

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:37 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:37

T.J. Bucholz:

He's certainly calmer right now - probably a build up. He might whisper a little before he builds.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:37 T.J. Bucholz

9:38

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Well, Granholm just got in her ad for her TV show.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:38 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:38

Greg McNeilly:

Tonight would not be the night to drink for every "Barack" or time you hear "Choice" unless you have no work tomorrow

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:38 Greg McNeilly

9:38

Greg McNeilly:

That insurance story has been proven false by the NYT

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:38 Greg McNeilly

9:38

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Greg, good idea on that drinking game....

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:38 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:39

John Truscott:

It's interesting that the Dems have continuously pointed out problems and heart breaking stories, yet it's on their watch that the problems occurred.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:39 John Truscott

9:39

T.J. Bucholz:

I liked Jill Biden - have never seen her speak at that stage before. She's real.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:39 T.J. Bucholz

9:39

Greg McNeilly:

Biden is mostly not talking about himself...mostly...which is certainly a new side of him.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:39 Greg McNeilly

9:39

Greg McNeilly:

Agree w/TJ re: Jill

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:39 Greg McNeilly

9:39

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Jill Biden is an asset, no doubt. Very genuine.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:39 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:40

T.J. Bucholz:

The policies and practices of the first eight years of this decade left to the messes we are still dealing with today.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:40 T.J. Bucholz

9:40

Greg McNeilly:

"It's going to be ok..." is NOT an economic strategy

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:40 Greg McNeilly

9:40

John Truscott:

This seems to be a re-introduction of Biden and Obama. We'll see if they lay out a plan of what they'd do differently in the next four years

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:40 John Truscott

9:40

T.J. Bucholz:

I think we're going to see the President lay out a bold vision for his next term.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:40 T.J. Bucholz

9:40

[Comment From Jason LenardJason Lenard: ]

I just heard that the last special guest, pre-Barack, is a birth certificate?!? Is that true???

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:40 Jason Lenard

9:41

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Jason, did you really need to go there? I mean really? http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-usa/

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:41 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:41

Greg McNeilly:

"He never backs down...." REALLY? Hmmmm Gitmo?

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:41 Greg McNeilly

9:41

[Comment From Carol DrostCarol Drost: ]

Jill seems great. Joe is putting me to sleep.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:41 Carol Drost

9:41

[Comment From Neil KramerNeil Kramer: ]

It makes it a bit challenging when the Republicans do nothing but obstruct progress.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:41 Neil Kramer

9:41

Greg McNeilly:

TJ, he has too....hope you're right. Specifics would help.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:41 Greg McNeilly

9:41

T.J. Bucholz:

Man, the Vice President is really keeping it lowkey.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:41 T.J. Bucholz

9:41

[Comment From Joe DiSanoJoe DiSano: ]

Howdy

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:41 Joe DiSano

9:41

Greg McNeilly:

TJ, it's the collar....nifty gadget :)

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:41 Greg McNeilly

9:41

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Hey Joe! Joe DiSano is another political strategist on tonight's panel. Left leaning, I'd say...

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:41 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:42

[Comment From Tim MartinTim Martin: ]

Thoughts about having the vice president speak on same night as the president? That's untraditional, isn't it?

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:42 Tim Martin

9:42

T.J. Bucholz:

I bet they aren't letting the VP wander off script like President Clinton did last night.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:42 T.J. Bucholz

9:42

Greg McNeilly:

Apparently Biden was Blown Away....

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:42 Greg McNeilly

9:42

Jonathan Oosting:

Biden on Granholm: Wasn't she great. I love Jennifer

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:42 Jonathan Oosting

9:42

[Comment From Neil KramerNeil Kramer: ]

Hello Joe!

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:42 Neil Kramer

9:42

[Comment From Carol DrostCarol Drost: ]

Biden certainly is no Clinton on the podium.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:42 Carol Drost

9:42

[Comment From Jeff LarsenJeff Larsen: ]

Greg, you want specifics from the president. Where were they in Romney's speech?

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:42 Jeff Larsen

9:42

[Comment From Melissa AndersMelissa Anders: ]

Hi there, Melissa Anders of MLive here.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:42 Melissa Anders

9:43

Greg McNeilly:

Yeah, it was a 5-point plan.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:43 Greg McNeilly

9:43

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Hey Melissa! Melissa is our statewide business reporter for MLive.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:43 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:43

[Comment From Dave MurrayDave Murray: ]

Hi Guys, Good to be here. I'll be your play-by-play man tonight.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:43 Dave Murray

9:43

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Hey Dave!

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:43 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:43

T.J. Bucholz:

Now it's a party!

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:43 T.J. Bucholz

9:43	David Shepardson @davidshepardson VP Biden goes off script: "God love Jennifer Granholm, wasn't she great." Thursday September 6, 2012 9:43 davidshepardson

9:43

[Comment From GuestGuest: ]

Joe loves Jennifer...

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:43 Guest

9:43

Greg McNeilly:

The problem w/Biden's bailout meme is that it is a rewrite...and overgloss. Let's give its due. But it was Bush. And...jury is still out, 22,000 Delphi employees got shafted...

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:43 Greg McNeilly

9:44

John Truscott:

And a lot of retiree bond holders got the shaft too

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:44 John Truscott

9:44

Greg McNeilly:

Could Joe Biden be Uncle Junior from The Sopranos?

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:44 Greg McNeilly

9:44

Greg McNeilly:

Totally JT!

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:44 Greg McNeilly

9:44

T.J. Bucholz:

I think Bush saw the inevitable loss of McCain in 2008 and realized if he didn't act quickly, there wouldn't be an auto industry to bailout. Despite the rhetoric, the man wasn't an idiot.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:44 T.J. Bucholz

9:44	Anthony De Rosa @AntDeRosa RT @ReutersPolitics: The many faces of former Michigan governor @JenGranholm during her rousing #DNC2012 speech bit.ly/OrjCWT Thursday September 6, 2012 9:44 AntDeRosa

9:44

Greg McNeilly:

Agree TJ

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:44 Greg McNeilly

9:45	David Eggert @DavidEggert00 @LauraWDET A fun thing would be to go back and watch her 2004 speech. I doubt it had this energy level. Thursday September 6, 2012 9:45 DavidEggert00

9:45

Greg McNeilly:

and his commitment to America (Bush) superseded partisan impact

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:45 Greg McNeilly

9:45

T.J. Bucholz:

But the President deserves full credit for his bailout of this industry. Full credit, no one can deny that.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:45 T.J. Bucholz

9:45

[Comment From Sam MillsSam Mills: ]

Joe Luvs Jennifer

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:45 Sam Mills

9:45

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

Jennifer was great tonight. Thoughts?

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:45 MidMichiganSki

9:45

[Comment From Joe DiSanoJoe DiSano: ]

every second biden is out there is like tap dancing in a mine field.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:45 Joe DiSano

9:45

Greg McNeilly:

Granholm had more energy because she is free of elected office....that always helps

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:45 Greg McNeilly

9:46

[Comment From Neil KramerNeil Kramer: ]

Helping the auto industry was the right thing to do. The American Auto Industry is back!

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:46 Neil Kramer

9:46

[Comment From Melissa AndersMelissa Anders: ]

Anyone know what brand of cars his dad sold? American?

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:46 Melissa Anders

9:46	Jennifer Granholm @JenGranholm In case you missed it, @current's posted a video of my #DNC2012 speech here. bit.ly/OU2Mki Thursday September 6, 2012 9:46 JenGranholm

9:46

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

Really? This is the argument at this point? Retirees having to pay more in taxes? Thanks Governor Snyder!

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:46 MidMichiganSki

9:46

[Comment From Joe DiSanoJoe DiSano: ]

I think Joe got new plugs. Every moment he is out there is like tap dancing in a mine field.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:46 Joe DiSano

9:46

T.J. Bucholz:

I think Greg's point just now definitely applies to John Kerry, too. Where was that candidate in 2004?

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:46 T.J. Bucholz

9:46	David Eggert @DavidEggert00 Biden devoting significant time to auto bailout. Says Romney didn't realize industry's link to entire American economy. #DNC2012 Thursday September 6, 2012 9:46 DavidEggert00

9:46

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Yeah, Kerry had energy tonight. With both the GOP and Dem conventions, there have really been some GREAT speeches.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:46 Meegan Holland - MLive

9:46

[Comment From SteveSteve: ]

Jennifer was outstanding!

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:46 Steve

9:47

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

John Kerry was the same, except he wasn't as nervous and wasn't being swiftboated during his speech.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:47 MidMichiganSki

9:47

[Comment From Mr. Michael StrattonMr. Michael Stratton: ]

I like how Biden stilled the boos at the mention of Romney's name. "No no, I don't think he's a bad guy." Like how the Dems have been taking the high road.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:47 Mr. Michael Stratton

9:47

T.J. Bucholz:

And no one can deny that - at the time - Mitt didn't get it. And really still doesn't.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:47 T.J. Bucholz

9:47	David Eggert @DavidEggert00 Biden: Can't give up on industry that put America on map in 1st place. Thursday September 6, 2012 9:47 DavidEggert00

9:47

Greg McNeilly:

Of course, it's a false meme to say that Romney did not want to save GM

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:47 Greg McNeilly

9:47

Greg McNeilly:

In fact, its an outright lie that the Democrats have spun successfully into mythical fact

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:47 Greg McNeilly

9:48

T.J. Bucholz:

Wrong.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:48 T.J. Bucholz

9:48	David Eggert @DavidEggert00 Again, Biden not mentioning that Bush first came in with rescue loans at end of his term. #DNC2012 Thursday September 6, 2012 9:48 DavidEggert00

9:48

Greg McNeilly:

He was for a restructuring.... and of course, on June 1, 2009, GM DID go bankrupt (under Obama) which was required

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:48 Greg McNeilly

9:48

T.J. Bucholz:

Mitt doesn't get it. It was in all the papers. And he's been backpedaling ever since.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:48 T.J. Bucholz

9:48

Greg McNeilly:

Read the OpEd TJ, not the headline the DetNews gave it

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:48 Greg McNeilly

9:48

Dave Murray:

OK, now I'm in as the play-by-play guy!

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:48 Dave Murray

9:48

[Comment From Neil KramerNeil Kramer: ]

Looking forward to the next episode of the Politibomb podcast with some post-convention discussion. http://www.youradvantage.org/politibomb

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:48 Neil Kramer

9:49

[Comment From SteveSteve: ]

Then what does "Let Detroit go bankrupt" mean Greg?

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:49 Steve

9:49

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

@Greg, he wanted to use the private sector which, at that time, wouldn't finance anything. But believe whatever you want, this is America after all.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:49 MidMichiganSki

9:49

Greg McNeilly:

Read the OpEd Steve. He didn't write that headline

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:49 Greg McNeilly

9:49

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

What has always amazed me about Mitt is this: politics largely relies upon personality and getting along with people. Nobody likes Mitt Romney, including his own party. His personal approval ratings are under water.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:49 MidMichiganSki

9:49

T.J. Bucholz:

That's a false meme my friend. Apologize all you want. He wanted to do it differently. And leave it to its own devices and fail, destroying the lives of millions of citizens.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:49 T.J. Bucholz

9:49

Greg McNeilly:

Dems lov to distract

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:49 Greg McNeilly

9:50

Dave Murray:

Biden getting big applause by mention the Bin Laden mission.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:50 Dave Murray

9:50

T.J. Bucholz:

My family is an auto family - without the bailout, my parents would now be living with me under one roof.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:50 T.J. Bucholz

9:50

Greg McNeilly:

I wonder Valerrie Jarrett actually focused group the PR behind killing bin laden prior to the event and helped direct the timing of it.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:50 Greg McNeilly

9:50

John Truscott:

Anyone who believed that people don't like Mitt, weren't watching the convention or following his record attendance at events

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:50 John Truscott

9:50

T.J. Bucholz:

I think the people in the room liked Mittens. But I think they were already voting for her. It's the people in the middle where Mitt fumbles the ball.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:50 T.J. Bucholz

9:51

Greg McNeilly:

Gotta give Obama credit for it, it happened on his watch, but it smells a tad political:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/did-obama-advisor-valerie-jarrett-delay-the-bin-laden-raid-3-times/

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:51 Greg McNeilly

9:51

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

Republicans love to dissemble.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:51 MidMichiganSki

9:51

[Comment From SteveSteve: ]

There were no "Bain-like" money lenders out there for GM and that is a fact.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:51 Steve

9:51

T.J. Bucholz:

him, excuse me.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:51 T.J. Bucholz

9:51

[Comment From Carol DrostCarol Drost: ]

I see the UAW signs in the crowd, but there's not a lot of union talk this year. My dad was a Teamster.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:51 Carol Drost

9:51

[Comment From Neil KramerNeil Kramer: ]

I remember he filled Ford Field... NOT!

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:51 Neil Kramer

9:51

[Comment From Bob ONeilBob ONeil: ]

Joe got "new plugs?"

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:51 Bob ONeil

9:51

Greg McNeilly:

Have to say Biden - or the speech writers - are smart to focus on TWO events/decisions and not make it a checklist speech.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:51 Greg McNeilly

9:52

John Truscott:

That Econ Club event had record attendance - there wasn't an available location big enough to hold the audience - except for a stadium

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:52 John Truscott

9:52

T.J. Bucholz:

That's been Biden safeline for six months.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:52 T.J. Bucholz

9:52

Greg McNeilly:

Biden called the operation to kill UBL the "most audacious plan in 500 years." Ok...that's hyperbole

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:52 Greg McNeilly

9:52

T.J. Bucholz:

Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive. Over and over. It's been tested by every pollster there is.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:52 T.J. Bucholz

9:52

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

Oops, I'll just leave this here: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/romneys-popularity-stays-low-obamas-is-better-but-with-challenges/

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:52 MidMichiganSki

9:53

John Truscott:

I guess storming the beaches at Normandy was child's play

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:53 John Truscott

9:53

Dave Murray:

Biden: Obama as courage in his soul, a spine of steel.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:53 Dave Murray

9:53

T.J. Bucholz:

JT, ha!

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:53 T.J. Bucholz

9:53

T.J. Bucholz:

Told ya.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:53 T.J. Bucholz

9:53

Dave Murray:

Biden: Bin Laden is dead, General Motors is alive.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:53 Dave Murray

9:53

Greg McNeilly:

Dave I thought Billy told us he was Icy/Hot. These mixed metaphors are flying!

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:53 Greg McNeilly

9:53

T.J. Bucholz:

That's Biden's long pass.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:53 T.J. Bucholz

9:53

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

It's alright JT. In time you'll realize the error of your ways. Wait, how is your business doing in Obama's economy? Seems like you've been expanding...

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:53 MidMichiganSki

9:53

Greg McNeilly:

Little known fact: Biden's Mom was the Navy Seal that personally killed Bin Laden. Since we're lying why not go for the goalposts?

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:53 Greg McNeilly

9:54

[Comment From JasonJason: ]

TJ calling Biden's shot. Nice.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:54 Jason

9:54

Greg McNeilly:

JK!

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:54 Greg McNeilly

9:54	Jennifer Granholm @JenGranholm Go Biden! "Osama bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive" #DNC2012 #Current2012 Thursday September 6, 2012 9:54 JenGranholm

9:54

John Truscott:

I Built That!

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:54 John Truscott

9:54

Joe DiSano:

man the bitterness is oozing out of the GOP tonight. they are running a lame dog that no one really likes.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:54 Joe DiSano

9:54

[Comment From SteveSteve: ]

Love Uncle Joe!

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:54 Steve

9:54

Greg McNeilly:

Agreed JT!

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:54 Greg McNeilly

9:54

Jonathan Oosting:

McCain hit Romney over the bin Laden line too, although he backtracked in the same 2007 debate to say: “We’ll move everything to get him. But I don’t want to buy into the Democratic pitch that this is all about one person — Osama bin Laden — because after we get him, there’s going to be another and another.”

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:54 Jonathan Oosting

9:54

Tim Martin:

How is Biden doing as the setup man? Thoughts, panelists?

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:54 Tim Martin

9:55

Dave Murray:

Biden: GOP didn't have the courage to tell you about the calls they'd make.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:55 Dave Murray

9:55

Greg McNeilly:

Doing great Tim. Clearly truth isn't a restriction for him...but the speech construct and delivery is good.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:55 Greg McNeilly

9:55

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

Joe's the perfect lead in. He connects with Democrats and Independents and won't outdo Obama.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:55 MidMichiganSki

9:55

[Comment From Neil KramerNeil Kramer: ]

President Clinton's a tough act to follow but you can tell the VP's speech is coming from the heart.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:55 Neil Kramer

9:55

Greg McNeilly:

Yeah, he made that tough decision on Gitmo and torture.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:55 Greg McNeilly

9:55

T.J. Bucholz:

It's to be expected. He's getting off script now, and the guys at GMMB are watch the VP the same way we used to watch Fernando Rodney attempt a save at COmerica.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:55 T.J. Bucholz

9:55

Dave Murray:

Biden: GOP plan will cause Medicare to bankrupt by 2016.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:55 Dave Murray

9:56

Joe DiSano:

no gaffes yet. i am happy

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:56 Joe DiSano

9:56

Dave Murray:

Biden: GOP not prepared to do anything about the debt if it required 1 cent in taxes for the wealthy.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:56 Dave Murray

9:56

T.J. Bucholz:

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:56 T.J. Bucholz

9:57

Greg McNeilly:

Smart to distract from the raid on medicare Obamacare mandates.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:57 Greg McNeilly

9:57

T.J. Bucholz:

gritting teeth and wincing

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:57 T.J. Bucholz

9:57

Jonathan Oosting:

Provided he doesn't stick his foot in his mouth, Biden's a good lead in for Obama because there's no way he'll steal the show. Just like in the White House.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:57 Jonathan Oosting

9:57

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

Wait, Greg, do you disagree with Obama's stance on Gitmo? He has already stopped what the Bush administration termed enhanced interrogation.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:57 MidMichiganSki

9:57

Greg McNeilly:

I always disagree with broken promises.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:57 Greg McNeilly

9:57

Greg McNeilly:

Sadly, for the forgotten, no mention of the 23 million Americans without work.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:57 Greg McNeilly

9:57

John Truscott:

This outsourcing line is a bunch of BS

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:57 John Truscott

9:58

Dave Murray:

Biden: Romney wants a territorial tax that will create 800,000 jobs overseas.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:58 Dave Murray

9:58

Joe DiSano:

Why would anyone trust the GOP to preserve Medicare? They were all against it.
You think Paul Ryan likes Medicare as a plan? Ayn Rand didn't

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:58 Joe DiSano

9:58

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

@Greg, the exact same savings Paul Ryan touts in his own budget plan? Talk about #brass

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:58 MidMichiganSki

9:58

[Comment From Mr. Michael StrattonMr. Michael Stratton: ]

Greg, did you see Clinton's breakdown of the Medicare stuff last night? Very informative.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:58 Mr. Michael Stratton

9:58

T.J. Bucholz:

He needed to end on his safeline.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:58 T.J. Bucholz

9:58

[Comment From JasonJason: ]

Mission Accomplished. Broken Promise.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:58 Jason

9:58

Greg McNeilly:

Yeah, Stratton and the WaPo "fact checked" into the dustbin.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:58 Greg McNeilly

9:58

[Comment From Neil KramerNeil Kramer: ]

We need to stop providing tax breaks for companies who ship jobs overseas.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:58 Neil Kramer

9:58

T.J. Bucholz:

This is wandering off point. Territorial tax only confuses.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:58 T.J. Bucholz

9:58

[Comment From SteveSteve: ]

One dollar - One dollar. Good line, The Republican's refuse to spend even one dollar of the wealthy's money regardless of the benefit to America!

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:58 Steve

9:59

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

Facts are stubborn things that can easily be dismissed I've always said.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:59 MidMichiganSki

9:59

Dave Murray:

Biden: Romney believes kids like DREAMers are a drag on the American economy. (DREAMers are children of illegal immigrants.)

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:59 Dave Murray

9:59

[Comment From JasonJason: ]

This is like the end of the movie "Unfaithful." It really should have ended before the murder scene.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:59 Jason

9:59

Greg McNeilly:

Pelosi needs to jettison her foreign bank accounts.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:59 Greg McNeilly

9:59

T.J. Bucholz:

This speech needed to be flipped. What you are listening to now needed to be the middle.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:59 T.J. Bucholz

9:59

Tim Martin:

I have not been timing this speech. But it is starting to feel a little long.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:59 Tim Martin

9:59

Greg McNeilly:

But then I guess the UAW pension fund would have to divest of foreign assets to be consistent....oh well, zingers are better than good policy.

Thursday September 6, 2012 9:59 Greg McNeilly

10:00

Joe DiSano:

Greg is right. Get rid of them all. Romney first though.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:00 Joe DiSano

10:00

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Yeah, he's no Bill Clinton.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:00 Meegan Holland - MLive

10:00

Greg McNeilly:

LOL Joe.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:00 Greg McNeilly

10:00

T.J. Bucholz:

And end with Bin Laden and GM.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:00 T.J. Bucholz

10:00

John Truscott:

Joe wanders into culture of dependency when facts show record number of Americans on food stamps. Be careful Joe

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:00 John Truscott

10:00

Dave Murray:

Biden: Perplexed by GOP statements on culture of dependency.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:00 Dave Murray

10:00

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

@Greg, so does Romney. Oh yea, release his tax returns as well.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:00 MidMichiganSki

10:00

Greg McNeilly:

Ok, regardless of content....he's going too long

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:00 Greg McNeilly

10:00

[Comment From Bob ONeilBob ONeil: ]

I don't know what I expected on this live blog, but this maybe the panel and us commenters should just log-off and go to the bar. NOTHING original. Bye.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:00 Bob ONeil

10:00

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Bye Bob! Have a drink on us! :)

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:00 Meegan Holland - MLive

10:00

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

Thanks, Joe DiSano.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:00 MidMichiganSki

10:01

Greg McNeilly:

Why doens't Biden demand his boss Obama pay women in the White House the same as men?

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:01 Greg McNeilly

10:01

Jennifer Granholm @JenGranholm

PHOTO: Can't think of a better way 2 watch @VP Biden & Pres. @BarackObama than w/ amazing Michigan delegates #DNC2012 pic.twitter.com/4IXwmBoZ

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:01 JenGranholm

10:01

Dave Murray:

Biden: People on government assistance want to live an independent life with dignity.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:01 Dave Murray

10:01

Greg McNeilly:

Joe's pacing is unnaturally - for him - good.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:01 Greg McNeilly

10:01

[Comment From Mr. Michael StrattonMr. Michael Stratton: ]

McNeilly: LA Times does a review of fact checkers on Clinton's speech. Can't find your problem with his Medicare explanation. http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-bill-clinton-fact-check-20120906,0,1262499.story

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:01 Mr. Michael Stratton

10:01

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Here he goes....

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:01 Meegan Holland - MLive

10:01

John Truscott:

Granholm has long arms - she took a photo of herself

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:01 John Truscott

10:01

Greg McNeilly:

"Folks, folks" ... "y'all..."

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:01 Greg McNeilly

10:01

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

Well, Uncle Joe needs to make amends for his "chains" comment.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:01 MidMichiganSki

10:02

Greg McNeilly:

LOL Jt

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:02 Greg McNeilly

10:02

Dave Murray:

Biden: American people didn't give up, they got up. Didn't quit on America.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:02 Dave Murray

10:02

T.J. Bucholz:

Listen, the Romney campaign will NOT be dictated to by the fact checkers!

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:02 T.J. Bucholz

10:02

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

@JT, hahahhahahhahaha

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:02 MidMichiganSki

10:02

John Truscott:

I wish the camera would flash to Biden's daughter more often. I'd rather see her than him

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:02 John Truscott

10:02

Greg McNeilly:

LOL, TJ, nor will Obama

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:02 Greg McNeilly

10:02

Dave Murray:

Biden: America is not in decline.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:02 Dave Murray

10:02

David Eggert @DavidEggert00

Biden: 'You deserve a president who will never quit on you.' #DNC2012

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:02 DavidEggert00

10:02

T.J. Bucholz:

Lloyd Bentsen attempt.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:02 T.J. Bucholz

10:02

Dave Murray:

Biden: It's never been a good bet to bet against the American people.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:02 Dave Murray

10:03

Meegan Holland - MLive:

I will say the convention signage and chants have been very scripted.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:03 Meegan Holland - MLive

10:03

Greg McNeilly:

Here's the subtext Granholm doesn't want the #DNC to read:

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:03 Greg McNeilly

10:03

[Comment From Neil KramerNeil Kramer: ]

America is NOT in decline!

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:03 Neil Kramer

10:03

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

After the RNC all I remember is #Eastwooding. Unfortunately for the RNC, the DNC has absolutely dominated social media and the zeitgeist.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:03 MidMichiganSki

10:03

[Comment From SteveSteve: ]

You didn't give up - you got up!!!

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:03 Steve

10:03

Greg McNeilly:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/23/us/23michigan.html?_r=1

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:03 Greg McNeilly

10:03

[Comment From Mr. Michael StrattonMr. Michael Stratton: ]

Joe stepped on his big line a bit there.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:03 Mr. Michael Stratton

10:03

Dave Murray:

Biden: We have no intention of downsizing the American dream.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:03 Dave Murray

10:03

Greg McNeilly:

Good line joe b

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:03 Greg McNeilly

10:03

[Comment From Neil KramerNeil Kramer: ]

Hear the roar of our engines!

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:03 Neil Kramer

10:03

[Comment From Carol DrostCarol Drost: ]

OK, Joe, now you're cookin'.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:03 Carol Drost

10:03

Dave Murray:

Biden: We see a future where everyone, rich and poor, does their part.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:03 Dave Murray

10:04

Joe DiSano:

get the hook. too long/

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:04 Joe DiSano

10:04

John Truscott:

This is kind of like Clinton's speech in that there's a little too much in there - and goes on too long. Shorter would have been more memorable

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:04 John Truscott

10:04

Greg McNeilly:

No decline? Ok, let's look at that... what is the measure? And seriously, let's ignore the straw man of the juxtaposition.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:04 Greg McNeilly

10:04

T.J. Bucholz:

Yep, jammed too much in.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:04 T.J. Bucholz

10:04

Meegan Holland - MLive:

The world always needs a good editor. Thank god.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:04 Meegan Holland - MLive

10:04

Greg McNeilly:

Agreed, no downsizing of the American dream, just the American government

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:04 Greg McNeilly

10:04

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

You know how Gov. Snyder isn't about assigning blame? Then all of his supporters cite the Granholm administration? And then call out Obama supporters for citing Bush? That's fun.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:04 MidMichiganSki

10:04

[Comment From Melissa AndersMelissa Anders: ]

Wow, I keep thinking he's done....and then he's not.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:04 Melissa Anders

10:04

Dave Murray:

Biden: A future where no one is forced to live in the shadows of intolerance.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:04 Dave Murray

10:04

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

All I know is I'd listen to Uncle Joe ramble for as long as he could.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:04 MidMichiganSki

10:05

Joe DiSano:

Melissa. No kidding. End it.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:05 Joe DiSano

10:05

T.J. Bucholz:

Yeah, Greg, we don't need those pesky things like Childrens Special Health Care. No, cut that.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:05 T.J. Bucholz

10:05

Greg McNeilly:

Did Biden make a bet w/Clinton on speech size?

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:05 Greg McNeilly

10:05

Tim Martin:

True, Melissa

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:05 Tim Martin

10:05

Greg McNeilly:

We still have to endure Durbin

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:05 Greg McNeilly

10:05

Dave Murray:

Biden: Only truly sacred obligation we have is to prepare those we send to war and care for them when they return.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:05 Dave Murray

10:06

Greg McNeilly:

No intolerance unless its a different idea or class

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:06 Greg McNeilly

10:06

T.J. Bucholz:

Should have ended at 9:45. And brought Bill Clinton out again. I wonder how this would have been better if Bill Clinton would have introed him and Biden went Wednesday.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:06 T.J. Bucholz

10:06

Greg McNeilly:

Agreed TJ

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:06 Greg McNeilly

10:06

Meegan Holland - MLive:

The convention hall has gotten very quiet as he honors veterans. And Biden keeps clearing his throat.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:06 Meegan Holland - MLive

10:06

[Comment From tombakertombaker: ]

leave it to Biden to make the killing of Bin Laden as a talking point, pitting Democrats against other Americans

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:06 tombaker

10:06

Dave Murray:

Biden getting choked up as he discusses fallen soldiers and their families.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:06 Dave Murray

10:06

David Eggert @DavidEggert00

#Biden really doing peaks and valleys on delivery of speech - whispers and then shouts and back again

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:06 DavidEggert00

10:06

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

Standards of any kind - whether they be measurement, potency, etc - are foolish. This should be just like the wild west. Speaking of which, I have this great potion to sell you.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:06 MidMichiganSki

10:06

T.J. Bucholz:

Hinge of history - nice line.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:06 T.J. Bucholz

10:07

Dave Murray:

Biden: It's been a great honor to serve you and serve Barack. I've seen him tested.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:07 Dave Murray

10:07

John Truscott:

But TJ - he really didn't finish the thought to follow the line

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:07 John Truscott

10:07

[Comment From MAZMAZ: ]

Important things take a long time. Be quiet and be patient.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:07 MAZ

10:07

Dave Murray:

Biden: Work of recovery incomplete, but we are on our way.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:07 Dave Murray

10:07

[Comment From Neil KramerNeil Kramer: ]

We are on our way!

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:07 Neil Kramer

10:07

T.J. Bucholz:

I liked the alliteration.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:07 T.J. Bucholz

10:07

Greg McNeilly:

Telling people who are hurting to be patient is rude.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:07 Greg McNeilly

10:08

John Truscott:

We're on our way - but where.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:08 John Truscott

10:08

[Comment From Mr. Michael StrattonMr. Michael Stratton: ]

Nice windup

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:08 Mr. Michael Stratton

10:08

Greg McNeilly:

"...and that's why I'm announcing tonight my intention to run for president in 2016." Oh wait....

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:08 Greg McNeilly

10:08

T.J. Bucholz:

No, what's rude is leaving a mess and not cleaning it up.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:08 T.J. Bucholz

10:08

Grade Joe Biden's speech
A

( 28% )

( 39% )

( 6% )

( 0% )

( 22% )

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:08

10:08

Greg McNeilly:

Give us a chance TJ :)

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:08 Greg McNeilly

10:08

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Interesting Greg ... I suppose he will run in 2016.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:08 Meegan Holland - MLive

10:08

Dave Murray:

Biden wraps up, hugging Jill Biden.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:08 Dave Murray

10:08

[Comment From Sam MillsSam Mills: ]

Ah, Joe winds it up.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:08 Sam Mills

10:09

[Comment From Carol DrostCarol Drost: ]

I think it's good that he hit all the main points. He's a mensch.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:09 Carol Drost

10:09

T.J. Bucholz:

I think Hillary staked out 2016 last night.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:09 T.J. Bucholz

10:09

Dave Murray:

Anyone thinking Biden should have been dropped from the ticket?

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:09 Dave Murray

10:09

Greg McNeilly:

Agreed TJ!

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:09 Greg McNeilly

10:09

Greg McNeilly:

No Dave, he's awesome :)

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:09 Greg McNeilly

10:09

Jonathan Oosting:

Is "we're on our way" the new "yes we can"?

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:09 Jonathan Oosting

10:09

Joe DiSano:

I give it a B plus. Give him a plus for no screw ups.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:09 Joe DiSano

10:09

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Dave M., I don't know who they'd want instead... anyone you have in mind?

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:09 Meegan Holland - MLive

10:09

T.J. Bucholz:

My wife loves Biden's exit music - September by Earth Wind & Fire.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:09 T.J. Bucholz

10:09

Greg McNeilly:

On our way? Not there yet....(as promised)

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:09 Greg McNeilly

10:09

T.J. Bucholz:

Me too, B+

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:09 T.J. Bucholz

10:10

Greg McNeilly:

It wasn't bad.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:10 Greg McNeilly

10:10

John Truscott:

Remember the Pres. promising that if he didn't fix it, he should be gone after 4 years, now they're asking for 4 more years to fix it

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:10 John Truscott

10:10

[Comment From Carol DrostCarol Drost: ]

Meegan- it's Earth, Wind and Fire!

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:10 Carol Drost

10:10

Dave Murray:

Meegan, good point, there doesn't seem to be a deep bench among the Dem leadership.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:10 Dave Murray

10:10

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Earth Wind & Fire ... reminds me of college days! Ooops, we're dating ourselves.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:10 Meegan Holland - MLive

10:10

Greg McNeilly:

really good delivery for Biden

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:10 Greg McNeilly

10:10

Tim Martin:

Mostly B grades for Biden so far

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:10 Tim Martin

10:10

[Comment From Neil KramerNeil Kramer: ]

We'd be a lot close if the other party would just come to the table and compromise.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:10 Neil Kramer

10:10

[Comment From willwill: ]

i love obama nation

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:10 will

10:10

T.J. Bucholz:

I just wish the structure would have been different. Flipped it around.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:10 T.J. Bucholz

10:10

Joe DiSano:

Dave Murray. Respecfully disagree. Bench is deep.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:10 Joe DiSano

10:10

Meegan Holland - MLive:

T.J., do you often write speeches? Curious...

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:10 Meegan Holland - MLive

10:10

Greg McNeilly:

Agree TJ....the best parts were at the front

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:10 Greg McNeilly

10:11

[Comment From tombakertombaker: ]

Biden was the guy leaking the information to the NY Times about the national security items, like the identity of the person who told us from about the bombers from Yeman

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:11 tombaker

10:11

Dave Murray:

Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin now speaking, getting ready for the president.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:11 Dave Murray

10:11

T.J. Bucholz:

I do and have.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:11 T.J. Bucholz

10:11

Dave Murray:

Joe, who would you say is a rising star who could have been on the ticket?

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:11 Dave Murray

10:11

Meegan Holland - MLive:

TJ, Biden could have used you tonight!

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:11 Meegan Holland - MLive

10:11

Greg McNeilly:

Why do they keep playing Prince's 1999 when their slogan is "Forward"?

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:11 Greg McNeilly

10:12

Dave Murray:

Durbin: America is coming back!

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:12 Dave Murray

10:12

T.J. Bucholz:

Just different structure, that's all.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:12 T.J. Bucholz

10:12

John Truscott:

What America is Durbin living in

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:12 John Truscott

10:12

Joe DiSano:

Start with Hillary.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:12 Joe DiSano

10:12

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

Remember when George Bush captured Osama Bin Laden and then hanged that "Mission Accomplished" banner? Oh wait... sorry, wrong reality.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:12 MidMichiganSki

10:12

Greg McNeilly:

JT, Chicago :)

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:12 Greg McNeilly

10:12

Joe DiSano:

Mark Warner. Hickenlooper. O'Malley

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:12 Joe DiSano

10:12

[Comment From GuestGuest: ]

There is no bench for the Dems, they eat their own.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:12 Guest

10:13

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

hung*?

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:13 MidMichiganSki

10:13

Dave Murray:

Joe, Hillary is the old guard at this point.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:13 Dave Murray

10:13

Joe DiSano:

I don't see it that way Dave

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:13 Joe DiSano

10:13

Tim Martin:

Many of the networks have analysts talking over the Durbin speech

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:13 Tim Martin

10:13

[Comment From Mr. Michael StrattonMr. Michael Stratton: ]

Stratton out: too many snipers to enjoy the speeches. Have a nice night all.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:13 Mr. Michael Stratton

10:13

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Night Mike!

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:13 Meegan Holland - MLive

10:13

John Truscott:

Frankly, the networks have botched both conventions by talking over key speeches.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:13 John Truscott

10:13

Greg McNeilly:

Cory Booker would be an exciting Democrat to see on a national tix

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:13 Greg McNeilly

10:14

T.J. Bucholz:

Hillary still is an enormous presence. If she decides to run, well...we'll see.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:14 T.J. Bucholz

10:14

[Comment From JasonJason: ]

One Direction's speech at the VMAs (Best Pop) was also structured very oddly.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:14 Jason

10:14

Meegan Holland - MLive:

Jason, so you caught the Video Music Awards! Which is more entertaining?

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:14 Meegan Holland - MLive

10:14

Greg McNeilly:

Agreed JT. We need to scrap the $136M in tax dollars conventions get and rethink this pageant

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:14 Greg McNeilly

10:14

Joe DiSano:

Can we get these damn conventions down to 1 night? Useless.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:14 Joe DiSano

10:14

Dave Murray:

Joe, will Hillary be in her 70s by 2016? She was first in White House in 1992. Can't call her a rising star, I'd think.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:14 Dave Murray

10:14

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

WKAR (PBS) has had stellar coverage. Sometimes, the government can do things well...

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:14 MidMichiganSki

10:14

Greg McNeilly:

Agree Joe. 1 night and a memorial highlight reel.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:14 Greg McNeilly

10:15

Tim Martin:

Convention length: Would 2 nights be enough?

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:15 Tim Martin

10:15

Greg McNeilly:

One night is enough.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:15 Greg McNeilly

10:15

T.J. Bucholz:

I disagree. Conventions whip up grassroots folks. They could do them without public dollars easily.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:15 T.J. Bucholz

10:15

Joe DiSano:

20 minutes would be enough.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:15 Joe DiSano

10:15

Dave Murray:

Dubrin recalling Abraham Lincoln.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:15 Dave Murray

10:15

[Comment From JasonJason: ]

@Meegan: Drake has nothing on JoeyB. Let me say this, had he dropped 1-2 profanities, it would have been close

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:15 Jason

10:15

Greg McNeilly:

TJ, the grassroots hardly get access to them due to costs and time

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:15 Greg McNeilly

10:16

Joe DiSano:

If you need a trip to get fired up you are full of crap. Stay home and work.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:16 Joe DiSano

10:16

T.J. Bucholz:

You cannot underestimate three nights of primetime coverage, despite the number of channels.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:16 T.J. Bucholz

10:16

Jonathan Oosting:

@midmichigan: PBS had analysts talking over Granholm (but went right back for the Desperate Housewives actress). Had to stream online.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:16 Jonathan Oosting

10:16

Meegan Holland - MLive:

@Jason Ha! Thanks for the report. MLive of course has full coverage: http://www.mlive.com/tv/index.ssf/2012/09/mtv_video_music_awards_2012_li.html

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:16 Meegan Holland - MLive

10:16

Greg McNeilly:

TOTALLY AGREE JOE. People who get fired up populate phone banks not convention halls.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:16 Greg McNeilly

10:16

Jonathan Oosting:

That's definitely Clooney.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:16 Jonathan Oosting

10:16

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

I agree with TJ. Conventions have a purpose other than the speakers in prime time.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:16 MidMichiganSki

10:16

[Comment From Sam MillsSam Mills: ]

Is anyone covering Durbin's speech?

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:16 Sam Mills

10:16

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

But Greg, they watch them on the TeeVees!

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:16 MidMichiganSki

10:16

T.J. Bucholz:

Clooney. Told ya.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:16 T.J. Bucholz

10:16

[Comment From Melissa AndersMelissa Anders: ]

Short and sweet!

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:16 Melissa Anders

10:16

Greg McNeilly:

LOL, yup MidMI

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:16 Greg McNeilly

10:16

David Eggert @DavidEggert00

Obama video starting. Talking about tough times. Bill Clinton crediting him for auto bailout.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:16 DavidEggert00

10:17

Dave Murray:

Durbin seems to have given way to a DNC video with Clinton.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:17 Dave Murray

10:17

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

@JonathanOosting, unfortunately I only get broadcast TV at the moment and I don't remember a break. Maybe they replayed with delay?

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:17 MidMichiganSki

10:17

[Comment From tombakertombaker: ]

Democrats clearly have better video promo crew

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:17 tombaker

10:17

Greg McNeilly:

Really? The polling numbers at the time were sky high for the bailout

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:17 Greg McNeilly

10:17

Jonathan Oosting:

@midmichigan Not sure. I'm watching WKAR here in Lansing.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:17 Jonathan Oosting

10:17

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

@tombaker, this is a fact, unfortunately for the GOP.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:17 MidMichiganSki

10:17

T.J. Bucholz:

Clinton should have been tonight. Right before Obama. And it would have been like that Oprah's favorite things skit on SNL where the audience is out of control.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:17 T.J. Bucholz

10:17

[Comment From tombakertombaker: ]

its as if Obama pulled out his personal money and paid off the Auto companies himself

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:17 tombaker

10:18

Greg McNeilly:

Oprah would have been a better narrator than Clooney

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:18 Greg McNeilly

10:18

David Eggert @DavidEggert00

It appears George Clooney is narrating this video. Auto bailout playing bigger role at this convention that I ever thought it would

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:18 DavidEggert00

10:18

Greg McNeilly:

He stays up late because his days are spent golfing!

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:18 Greg McNeilly

10:18

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

@JonathanOosting, same here. I consume a lot of media so it is entirely possible I've conflated FB/Twitter/TV/MLive

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:18 MidMichiganSki

10:18

[Comment From tombakertombaker: ]

GM put out crappy cars, meanwhile the Ohio Honda plant puts out great Honda Accords for 15 years

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:18 tombaker

10:19

T.J. Bucholz:

Clooney should have been on live - swing tens of thousands of independent women. Same ones that impulse buy In Touch at Meijer.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:19 T.J. Bucholz

10:19

[Comment From Melissa AndersMelissa Anders: ]

I agree with Dave, I'm surprised at the amount of attention given to the bailout

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:19 Melissa Anders

10:19

[Comment From Neil KramerNeil Kramer: ]

The Republicans opposed the auto loans to save American jobs.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:19 Neil Kramer

10:19

[Comment From JasonJason: ]

EVERYONE GETS A CAR!!! AND A BAILOUTTTTTTT!! http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Oprahs-Entire-Audience-Are-Surprised-with-New-Cars-Video

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:19 Jason

10:19

John Truscott:

Focus on autos, instead of removing God and Israel from the platform

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:19 John Truscott

10:19

T.J. Bucholz:

I fully expect some Oprah before night's end.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:19 T.J. Bucholz

10:19

Greg McNeilly:

Again, this insurance story has been debunked. She had access to insurance.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:19 Greg McNeilly

10:20

Tim Martin:

How much time do you expect President Obama will spend on the auto bailout during his speech?

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:20 Tim Martin

10:20

Greg McNeilly:

3 mins Tim

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:20 Greg McNeilly

10:20

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

But they added God and Israel to the platform? Upon request from Obama himself if I'm not mistaken.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:20 MidMichiganSki

10:20

T.J. Bucholz:

Tim, he'll touch it, but Biden did the heavy lift.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:20 T.J. Bucholz

10:20

Joe DiSano:

You can have access to insurance and still be drained by the vultures.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:20 Joe DiSano

10:20

John Truscott:

Oh please - everyone knows better

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:20 John Truscott

10:20

[Comment From tombakertombaker: ]

The automakers were reorganized under a Bankruptcy proceeding, except the government facilitated it

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:20 tombaker

10:20

David Eggert @DavidEggert00

@PatrickRuffini @PaulWelday Ohio is also a significant auto state

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:20 DavidEggert00

10:20

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

5 mins Tim

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:20 MidMichiganSki

10:20

[Comment From MidMichiganSkiMidMichiganSki: ]

What's your over/under Greg?

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:20 MidMichiganSki

10:20

Jonathan Oosting:

@tim, I'm hoping they get it all out of the way here in the intro and he focuses on plans for the future

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:20 Jonathan Oosting

10:21

Greg McNeilly:

But the story they tell is not what happened....it makes a powerful everyman story, but as an actual instance, its a fabrication...a habit replete w/in his bios

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:21 Greg McNeilly

10:21

T.J. Bucholz:

Romney has significant challenges in the Rust Belt - add CA and NY and that's the ballgame.

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:21 T.J. Bucholz

10:21

Greg McNeilly:

3 Mins

Thursday September 6, 2012 10:21 Greg McNeilly

10:21

Dave Murray:

Bin Liden story retold again, Biden: He has a backbone like a ramrod.