WWDC Meta-Live-Blog

(06/09/2008)

11:41

The iPhone Blog:

Aw, what the heck, it's too fun not to start early, hey?

Monday June 9, 2008 11:41 The iPhone Blog

11:42

What do you want the most?
iPhone 2.0 Software Released

( 15% )

iPhone 3G

( 72% )

Snow Leopard

( 2% )

Multiple iPhone Form Factors

( 5% )

One More Thing.

( 7% )

Monday June 9, 2008 11:42

11:42

[Comment From kennkenn: ]

when does the wwdc start?

Monday June 9, 2008 11:42 kenn

11:42

[Comment From Matt WMatt W: ]

I didn't sleep allll night. Couldn't

Monday June 9, 2008 11:42 Matt W

11:42

[Comment From kennkenn: ]

hey

Monday June 9, 2008 11:42 kenn

11:42

[Comment From Patrick ShepherdPatrick Shepherd: ]

I know the feeling... this crap is all comsuming to a gadget guy

Monday June 9, 2008 11:42 Patrick Shepherd

11:43

[Comment From Nasty N8Nasty N8: ]

WooHoo!

Monday June 9, 2008 11:43 Nasty N8

11:43

[Comment From Nasty N8Nasty N8: ]

Sounds fine with me!

Monday June 9, 2008 11:43 Nasty N8

11:43

[Comment From FrankFrank: ]

Are you there or watching remotely?

Monday June 9, 2008 11:43 Frank

11:43

The iPhone Blog:

I'm meta-live-blogging. A whole lotta sites I'm keeping an eye on!

Monday June 9, 2008 11:43 The iPhone Blog

11:43

rene:

Greetings former mobile accomplishers! :)

Monday June 9, 2008 11:43 rene

11:43

[Comment From PewtPewt: ]

is it going to be broadcast live online anywhere?

Monday June 9, 2008 11:43 Pewt

11:43

[Comment From GasDocGasDoc: ]

Cheers

Monday June 9, 2008 11:43 GasDoc

11:43

[Comment From GuestGuest: ]

Hey, greetings from Spain!

Monday June 9, 2008 11:43 Guest

11:43

[Comment From RichieRichie: ]

I was having nightmares they wouldnt release it today lol.

Monday June 9, 2008 11:43 Richie

11:44

The iPhone Blog:

@pewt, try here: http://www.iphonealley.com/news/wwdc-2008-keynote-live-audio-stream

Monday June 9, 2008 11:44 The iPhone Blog

11:44

[Comment From Matt WMatt W: ]

I'm actually "unjailbreaking" my iPhone right now

Monday June 9, 2008 11:44 Matt W

11:44

[Comment From FrankFrank: ]

I have my Dell x51v ready to throw out the window. Tell me when.

Monday June 9, 2008 11:44 Frank

11:44

[Comment From GasDocGasDoc: ]

Well, apples stores are down. I wonder if apples stores have them in stock as we type????

Monday June 9, 2008 11:44 GasDoc

11:44

The iPhone Blog:

@frank: you're still on an x51v?! Crazy man!

Monday June 9, 2008 11:44 The iPhone Blog

11:44

[Comment From BorjaBorja: ]

Has the Apple Store been closed ever before?

Monday June 9, 2008 11:44 Borja

11:44

[Comment From CrackBerry KevinCrackBerry Kevin: ]

Should I make some popcorn and sit back for the show?

Monday June 9, 2008 11:44 CrackBerry Kevin

11:45

[Comment From GasDocGasDoc: ]

I meant online

Monday June 9, 2008 11:45 GasDoc

11:45

[Comment From JorgeJorge: ]

Man I just woke up, 1 o'clock couldn't come any sooner

Monday June 9, 2008 11:45 Jorge

11:45

[Comment From LazLaz: ]

What time does the shindig start?

Monday June 9, 2008 11:45 Laz

11:45

rene:

My friend in the next cubicle, whose Treo 680 just crashed taking a call for the 3rd time today, has it on the floor, ready to stomp into oblivion -- Scott Bourne style -- the moment El Jobso clears Rogers in Canada for launch...

Monday June 9, 2008 11:45 rene

11:45

The iPhone Blog:

Excitement starts at 1pm EST.

Monday June 9, 2008 11:45 The iPhone Blog

11:45

[Comment From GasDocGasDoc: ]

1pm eastern

Monday June 9, 2008 11:45 GasDoc

11:45

[Comment From BorjaBorja: ]

I'll do!

Monday June 9, 2008 11:45 Borja

11:45

[Comment From stephenstephen: ]

i just bought stock in apple so im hoping this new 3G comes out and is a hit

Monday June 9, 2008 11:45 stephen

11:45

[Comment From GasDocGasDoc: ]

oh, it'll be a hit

Monday June 9, 2008 11:45 GasDoc

11:45

[Comment From JorgeJorge: ]

Great time to buy...

Monday June 9, 2008 11:45 Jorge

11:46

[Comment From Matt WMatt W: ]

I thought about buying stock

Monday June 9, 2008 11:46 Matt W

11:46

rene:

Apple store goes down a any time a new launch or product hits...

Monday June 9, 2008 11:46 rene

11:46

Dieter Bohn:

http://www.thedigitallifestyle.tv/index.html also should have live video or audio

Monday June 9, 2008 11:46 Dieter Bohn

11:46

[Comment From stephenstephen: ]

yea well a few months ago wen it was at $119 was a great time to buy

Monday June 9, 2008 11:46 stephen

11:46

[Comment From LouieLouie: ]

I have my credit card ready to go

Monday June 9, 2008 11:46 Louie

11:47

rene:

Apple appreciates all the money we throw at them, I'm sure. Should be a... brisk quarter to say the least :)

Monday June 9, 2008 11:47 rene

11:47

[Comment From GasDocGasDoc: ]

If it isnt released or at minimum announced today, stocks will take a hit. So you're good!

Monday June 9, 2008 11:47 GasDoc

11:47

[Comment From BorjaBorja: ]

Rene , thanks for the answer

Monday June 9, 2008 11:47 Borja

11:48

Dieter Bohn:

all those 'mystery boxes' give me hope. The lady at the apple store in Tampa gave our guy a "wink and a nod" and said "come back after 1"

Monday June 9, 2008 11:48 Dieter Bohn

11:48

[Comment From stephenstephen: ]

i just bought, i dont want the stocks to take a hit, haha that would suck for the time being at least

Monday June 9, 2008 11:48 stephen

11:48

[Comment From JorgeJorge: ]

Remember, it starts at one, but we have a 15 minute leeway due to the fact that Steve takes the first part of the keynote to remind us how awesome he is and how much he has sold this quarter

Monday June 9, 2008 11:48 Jorge

11:48

[Comment From GuestGuest: ]

i thought the stores close ?

Monday June 9, 2008 11:48 Guest

11:48

rene:

@Borja: No worries. Apple Store went down every Tuesday this year for while, and often came back with goodness like price drops or storage bumps...

Monday June 9, 2008 11:48 rene

11:48

[Comment From GasDocGasDoc: ]

You're good. Its hitting today!!!!! Steve wont fail. He's too much of a genius.

Monday June 9, 2008 11:48 GasDoc

11:49

rene:

@Dieter: Hope she doesn't get Steved for that wink.

Monday June 9, 2008 11:49 rene

11:49

Dieter Bohn:

The apple store in Tampa is open...

Monday June 9, 2008 11:49 Dieter Bohn

11:49

[Comment From stephenstephen: ]

i work at an apple store in MA and everyone has to work everyday this week...there expecting huge crowds but wont tell us why haha

Monday June 9, 2008 11:49 stephen

11:49

[Comment From BorjaBorja: ]

But it looks this time is because of new product coming out, isnt it?

Monday June 9, 2008 11:49 Borja

11:50

rene:

Physical Apple Stores will probably only close the day they go on sale, and only for a few hours, like last year, to set up the lines and get Scoble-press...

Monday June 9, 2008 11:50 rene

11:51

rene:

@Crackberry Kevin: Only if you brought along enough popcorn for the sister sites!

Monday June 9, 2008 11:51 rene

11:51

Should we publish most / all of the comments or would you folks rather hear from Rene and I?
Publish them all - I can follow

( 37% )

You guys are so smart, weed out the little guys

( 59% )

Meh.

( 5% )

Monday June 9, 2008 11:51

11:51

[Comment From GuestGuest: ]

Haha i wonder how long its going to take to jailbreak the new iphone ? Hmm give or take i think a couple of days:)

Monday June 9, 2008 11:51 Guest

11:51

[Comment From harleyharley: ]

How long do thesew key notes usually last?

Monday June 9, 2008 11:51 harley

11:51

[Comment From KevinKevin: ]

Stephen, they don't let you in on the release? how do they keep that from you?

Monday June 9, 2008 11:51 Kevin

11:52

[Comment From stephenstephen: ]

haha they give us hints but they dont say much

Monday June 9, 2008 11:52 stephen

11:52

[Comment From panchopancho: ]

do you know if anyone on the web, is video streaming this ?

Monday June 9, 2008 11:52 pancho

11:52

[Comment From LuisLuis: ]

do you guys think we will be able to get our hands on a new iphone today?

Monday June 9, 2008 11:52 Luis

11:52

[Comment From GuestGuest: ]

probably... do u honestly feel that they will sell new iphone today after Jobs' presentation?

Monday June 9, 2008 11:52 Guest

11:52

rene:

Apparently Steve Jobs hid the iPod Hi-Fi under tarp even from his wife and children. The man is old school NSA type secret.

Monday June 9, 2008 11:52 rene

11:52

Dieter Bohn:

I think today is feeling more and more likely

Monday June 9, 2008 11:52 Dieter Bohn

11:53

rene:

Live stream again: http://www.iphonealley.com/news/macworld-2008-keynote-live-video-stream

Monday June 9, 2008 11:53 rene

11:53

Dieter Bohn:

Looks like the "keep the noise level down" is edging out "turn on the firehose" by a small margin. Don't get mad at me if I don't publish your comment. :)

Monday June 9, 2008 11:53 Dieter Bohn

11:54

rene:

My best guess is still announce today, release by end of month (19th in the US, staggered internationally up to July for some).

Monday June 9, 2008 11:54 rene

11:54

[Comment From BorjaBorja: ]

I think Jobs does his job better than anyone else. He creates magic and expectation before going on stage.

Monday June 9, 2008 11:54 Borja

11:55

[Comment From AndrewAndrew: ]

I called the local apple store, he refused to answer my question of "questionable boxes" but he did say, trust me you will be very happy by the end of today.

Monday June 9, 2008 11:55 Andrew

11:55

Dieter Bohn:

@Andrew - that's pretty much EXACTLY what the Tampa Apple Store told us. "I can't say anything. But I would stop by later if I were you"

Monday June 9, 2008 11:55 Dieter Bohn

11:56

[Comment From KasperKasper: ]

Sounds nice, kind of an confirmation

Monday June 9, 2008 11:56 Kasper

11:56

[Comment From GuestGuest: ]

Maybe they will show off the advertisement, but don't have devices ready to sell

Monday June 9, 2008 11:56 Guest

11:56

Dieter Bohn:

Sadly, the boxes having demo units and other displays still seems most likely to me. But Dare to Dream!

Monday June 9, 2008 11:56 Dieter Bohn

11:57

[Comment From GuestGuest: ]

i have a feeling i will be very frustrated with the internet by the end of the day....:(

Monday June 9, 2008 11:57 Guest

11:57

[Comment From CrackBerry KevinCrackBerry Kevin: ]

Question. Since the iPhone never made Rogers in the past year.... but we know it's coming... will it be the 3G iPhone that eventually lands in Canada first?

Monday June 9, 2008 11:57 CrackBerry Kevin

11:57

Dieter Bohn:

@Kevin - You're going to give Rene heartburn. His Canadian Heart is aflame with a desire for a native iPhone.

Monday June 9, 2008 11:57 Dieter Bohn

11:57

[Comment From LaurenLauren: ]

I went into the store wanting to buy an iphone on friday and the guy told me I should really wait until monday to see if the "rumors are true"

Monday June 9, 2008 11:57 Lauren

11:57

[Comment From timtim: ]

Are people lining up today to buy at the stores, any news on that???

Monday June 9, 2008 11:57 tim

11:58

Dieter Bohn:

@Tim - So far I haven't heard of any lines. Another piece of evidence that it won't be available for sale today. :(

Monday June 9, 2008 11:58 Dieter Bohn

11:58

[Comment From KevinKevin: ]

I plan on staying on this site to participate in the chat, but does anyone know of any blogs that will be updated live from WWDC?

Monday June 9, 2008 11:58 Kevin

11:58

Dieter Bohn:

We have a list of the on-site blogs we're following in the full post below.

Monday June 9, 2008 11:58 Dieter Bohn

11:58

[Comment From DaveDave: ]

OK - you've got me hooked. I'm on the road now - will update you for east coast info. 15 mins there, I'll post from my Curve as I get info there

Monday June 9, 2008 11:58 Dave

12:00

Dieter Bohn:

From Gizmodo: "Here’s our prediction, and we’ve got 2 to 1 odds on Coldplay showing up at the end of the show, pimping their new album live. LIVE. No John Mayer today…we don’t think."

Heh. John Mayer has turned to the DARK SIDe (BlackBerry), while Coldplay is all up in the latest iPod commercials. Coldplay is a lock imo.

Monday June 9, 2008 12:00 Dieter Bohn

12:00

[Comment From AndyAndy: ]

If it goes on sale today, do you think only the Apple Store will sell it and then days later AT&T stores too?

Monday June 9, 2008 12:00 Andy

12:01

Dieter Bohn:

@Andy - No idea. We're hedging our bets and sending folks to both places.

Monday June 9, 2008 12:01 Dieter Bohn

12:01

[Comment From DaveDave: ]

@andy - ATT store is on the way - I can check both

Monday June 9, 2008 12:01 Dave

12:01

rene:

@Kevin: If Rogers can break my heart, frustrate me, and remind me it owns me all at the same time, it will definately do so!

Monday June 9, 2008 12:01 rene

12:02

Rene Ritchie:

Any idea the geek-jam it would cause if everyone rushed from the keynote to the Apple Store? San Francisco would shut down!

Monday June 9, 2008 12:02 Rene Ritchie

12:02

[Comment From stevey jstevey j: ]

apple store cleaned an area of store shelves

Monday June 9, 2008 12:02 stevey j

12:02

Dieter Bohn:

@ stevey j: BOOM!

Monday June 9, 2008 12:02 Dieter Bohn

12:03

[Comment From AndrewAndrew: ]

I just talked to my buddy who works at the Apple store in Tysons Corner. He said he can't confirm anything specific, but he is the second person stating i will be very happy tonight.

Monday June 9, 2008 12:03 Andrew

12:03

[Comment From AndyAndy: ]

Honestly, I hope AT&T stores will sell it too, cause the Apple Stores will most likley be packed with dozens of people

Monday June 9, 2008 12:03 Andy

12:03

Rene Ritchie:

@Stevey j: So he can zig when we all want him to zag and introduce something like Time Capsule Take 2?

Monday June 9, 2008 12:03 Rene Ritchie

12:03

Rene Ritchie:

@Crackberry Kevin: Odds of Lazaridis showing up to announce Blackberry Connect for iPhone? :)

Monday June 9, 2008 12:03 Rene Ritchie

12:03

Richie asks - any guesses on price points?
199

( 19% )

299

( 25% )

399

( 35% )

one cheap and one expensive

( 20% )

Free, baby, FREE

( 1% )

Monday June 9, 2008 12:03

12:04

[Comment From KevinKevin: ]

I just drove by the local AT&T store and there are people sitting outside. I was going to poke my head in and see if I could get a look at what might be hiding but i have to work

Monday June 9, 2008 12:04 Kevin

12:05

[Comment From Jebus ChristJebus Christ: ]

i left an att store and its hella people waiting outside i guess craigslist ill wait lol

Monday June 9, 2008 12:05 Jebus Christ

12:05

Dieter Bohn:

t-minus 55 minutes.

Monday June 9, 2008 12:05 Dieter Bohn

12:05

[Comment From KevinKevin: ]

i just checked the ATT website and they're sold out of the iphones (which probably isn't new news but thought I'd share)

Monday June 9, 2008 12:05 Kevin

12:06

[Comment From Scott L.Scott L.: ]

Check out this link on the AT&T site: http://www.wireless.att.com/find-a-store/iphone/

Monday June 9, 2008 12:06 Scott L.

12:06

[Comment From LaurenLauren: ]

apple store was saying they were out of stock earlier as well

Monday June 9, 2008 12:06 Lauren

12:07

Rene Ritchie:

Banners:

App Store: Now accepting applications

iPhone SDK: Let's see what develops

Masters of the marketing entendres, as always

Monday June 9, 2008 12:07 Rene Ritchie

12:07

[Comment From RichieRichie: ]

"Vote your hopes, not your fears!"

Monday June 9, 2008 12:07 Richie

12:08

Rene Ritchie:

Fake Steve with the hillarity:

Confession: I'm wearing Depends today

Monday June 9, 2008 12:08 Rene Ritchie

12:08

[Comment From CrackBerry KevinCrackBerry Kevin: ]

@ Rene: 0 % Chance of Lazaridis showing up. Would laugh my butt off though.

Monday June 9, 2008 12:08 CrackBerry Kevin

12:08

[Comment From GuestGuest: ]

Ok, that iPhone SDK line is hardly deserving of "masters of the marketing entendres"...unless this is 1984

Monday June 9, 2008 12:08 Guest

12:08

[Comment From KRAZYKKRAZYK: ]

Apple store website says its updating stock

Monday June 9, 2008 12:08 KRAZYK

12:09

[Comment From CrackBerry KevinCrackBerry Kevin: ]

What color is it expected to be? Same sort of Black/Chrome or will it be more divergent to stand out from iPhone 1. Maybe white or something? I don't really follow non-BlackBerry news... haha :)

Monday June 9, 2008 12:09 CrackBerry Kevin

12:10

When do you think it will be released?
TODAY

( 56% )

June 19th

( 28% )

Julyish

( 12% )

Augustish

( 2% )

You fool, it's not going to be announced today

( 2% )

Monday June 9, 2008 12:10

12:10

Rene Ritchie:

@Crackberry Kevin: Rumors of a blond, brunette, and product (readhead) versions...

Monday June 9, 2008 12:10 Rene Ritchie

12:10

[Comment From Matt WMatt W: ]

some say sleek white sme say sleek black, or product red

Monday June 9, 2008 12:10 Matt W

12:10

[Comment From KasperKasper: ]

I do not hope it will be some kind of cheap plastic at the back, like the earliest pics have shown..

Monday June 9, 2008 12:10 Kasper

12:11

Rene Ritchie:

How about odds of Ballmer coming on stage for the Exchange demo. What I wouldn't give to see an iPhone DEVELOPERS! Monkey boy dance...

Monday June 9, 2008 12:11 Rene Ritchie

12:11

[Comment From KevinKevin: ]

i'm hoping they keep it simple w/ the models. having different colors is one thing, but lets stick w/ one or two models of the phone.

Monday June 9, 2008 12:11 Kevin

12:11

[Comment From KRAZYKKRAZYK: ]

Just called my apple store they said they will realease new shipments after 8

Monday June 9, 2008 12:11 KRAZYK

12:11

[Comment From CharlesCharles: ]

Kevin..... Nice to see you keeping up to date on everything including non-Blackberry items

Monday June 9, 2008 12:11 Charles

12:11

Dieter Bohn:

New Shipments after 8? Won't they all be closed by then?

Monday June 9, 2008 12:11 Dieter Bohn

12:12

Rene Ritchie:

NYC Apple Store is 24hrs, no?

Monday June 9, 2008 12:12 Rene Ritchie

12:12

[Comment From KasperKasper: ]

Not the one on 5th. 24/7

Monday June 9, 2008 12:12 Kasper

12:13

Rene Ritchie:

(They're building a Montreal Flagship just down the street from where I work. No chance in time for the launch, though :( )

Monday June 9, 2008 12:13 Rene Ritchie

12:13

Dieter Bohn:

Naturally, Twitter is not performing for me. Good thing I wasn't going to be depending on that! Ah, mac and iPhone geeks, so dependable in your habits! :D

Monday June 9, 2008 12:13 Dieter Bohn

12:15

Dieter Bohn:

Looks like the line is moving slightly, they're not in the hall yet but they've moved to a different part of the building. I miss the rush to get front row sets at these things -- always so crazy. At the MacWorld conference, we started waiting in line at 3AM I believe -- we were far enough back that Steve Jobs looked like a Circus Peanut.

Monday June 9, 2008 12:15 Dieter Bohn

12:15

[Comment From KevinKevin: ]

We're now just 45minutes away from the keynote

Monday June 9, 2008 12:15 Kevin

12:16

[Comment From FJRFJR: ]

So is it a given that the 2.0 software is coming out later today at the least?

Monday June 9, 2008 12:16 FJR

12:16

Dieter Bohn:

@FJR: If not today, then within the month.

Monday June 9, 2008 12:16 Dieter Bohn

12:19

Dieter Bohn:

Alright, folks, everybody go get your bathroom breaks and smoke breaks and eat a little sammich or something. T-Minus 41 minutes.

Monday June 9, 2008 12:19 Dieter Bohn

12:19

[Comment From MikeMike: ]

I am looking foward to see which way the apple share price will go once the announcement is made.

Monday June 9, 2008 12:19 Mike

12:20

[Comment From NugeNuge: ]

Why aren't my comments getting through?

Monday June 9, 2008 12:20 Nuge

12:21

Dieter Bohn:

@Nuge - We're only sending through a subsection of the comments -- trying to keep things a little less harried and a little more on-topic. Nothing personal to anybody!

Monday June 9, 2008 12:21 Dieter Bohn

12:21

[Comment From KRAZYKKRAZYK: ]

big update!! Apple store says their receiving a big shipment between 11 and 2 oclock tommorow

Monday June 9, 2008 12:21 KRAZYK

12:21

[Comment From BrianBrian: ]

@KRAZYK, what store?

Monday June 9, 2008 12:21 Brian

12:22

[Comment From KRAZYKKRAZYK: ]

Northpark Mall Dallas, TX

Monday June 9, 2008 12:22 KRAZYK

12:22

[Comment From Blackberry JeffBlackberry Jeff: ]

I just called T-Mobile to ask them about cancelling my contract a month early. They asked why and I told them about the iPhone. They offered me a brand new Blackberry Curve for free if I stayed. I love Blackberry's, but i'm ready for something new.

Monday June 9, 2008 12:22 Blackberry Jeff

12:22

Rene Ritchie:

Remember folks, you can subscribe to the Keynotes now via iTunes. 3 are already in the feed, with this one to follow soon-ish...

Monday June 9, 2008 12:22 Rene Ritchie

12:23

[Comment From AndrewAndrew: ]

I called Pentagon City and the girl claims there is no product launch today, just a keynote. I told her my buddy at Tysons Corner claims they were clearing shelves, and she just kinda froze. I replied with "I'll see you in an hour" she said, "you probably will"

Monday June 9, 2008 12:23 Andrew

12:23

[Comment From fwtfwt: ]

Will the "everyone" chat be turned off during the WWDC? Or will this be full of random thoughts and booms while it is going on?

Monday June 9, 2008 12:23 fwt

12:24

Dieter Bohn:

When it starts it will mostly be Me, Rene, and Casey with a few comments sent through from the readers when they're on-topic, interesting, I'm able to click the button to approve them. :D

Monday June 9, 2008 12:24 Dieter Bohn

12:24

[Comment From BrianBrian: ]

@Dieter, I do not envy your job right now but appreciate you having this forum up :-)

Monday June 9, 2008 12:24 Brian

12:24

[Comment From LeeLee: ]

This is the best live interface I see available for the keynote :) Thanks for taking the time to keep us in the know!

Monday June 9, 2008 12:24 Lee

12:26

Dieter Bohn:

Aw, thanks to all the comments everybody. Ok, we're just over a half hour away now. Seriously - everbody go take a quick breather, it'll get crazy soon. Rene is in charge for a bit. :D

Monday June 9, 2008 12:26 Dieter Bohn

12:26

[Comment From KevinKevin: ]

Rene- can you offer some details on subscribing to the keynote?

Monday June 9, 2008 12:26 Kevin

12:26

[Comment From CrackBerry KevinCrackBerry Kevin: ]

is there a reason Apple.com is down for me right now?

Monday June 9, 2008 12:26 CrackBerry Kevin

12:27

[Comment From DaveDave: ]

@kevin - it's up, just no store

Monday June 9, 2008 12:27 Dave

12:27

[Comment From BobBob: ]

Kevin, simply go to iTunes and sign up for the keynotes podcasts

Monday June 9, 2008 12:27 Bob

12:27

Rene Ritchie:

Also, please remember that this year's Macworld Keynote brought down Twitter, 3 AOL data centers (Engadget), and tons of live blogs, so if things, er... slow down around the net, that's just Steve Jobs talking for ya...

Monday June 9, 2008 12:27 Rene Ritchie

12:28

Rene Ritchie:

@Crackberry Kevin: Apple.com fine for me right now...

Monday June 9, 2008 12:28 Rene Ritchie

12:28

Ryan asks: What if they don't release the iPhone 3g?
Gnashing of Teeth

( 15% )

Rending of Garments

( 4% )

Crowd mobs the stage, draws and quarters Jobs

( 50% )

CrackBerry Kevin Cackles

( 31% )

Monday June 9, 2008 12:28

12:29

Dieter Bohn:

Monday June 9, 2008 12:29 Dieter Bohn

12:29

Dieter Bohn:

Well, the image code works. Big UPS to Vincent Nguyen for allowing us to use his liveblog images from iphonebuzz

Monday June 9, 2008 12:29 Dieter Bohn

12:31

[Comment From RayRay: ]

is that a Starbucks placement ad?

Monday June 9, 2008 12:31 Ray

12:32

[Comment From AndrewAndrew: ]

Are they playing the keynote at the apple stores? If the phone isn't available for purchase right away I can at least enjoy a nice break from work and watch.

Monday June 9, 2008 12:32 Andrew

12:33

Rene Ritchie:

@Ryan: If they weren't going to announce iPhone 3G, they would released some statement saying they weren't going to talk about it today, to get the bad press out of the way before the event. They don't need that kind of massive anticipointment today...

Monday June 9, 2008 12:33 Rene Ritchie

12:34

[Comment From iPhone CultiPhone Cult: ]

Predictions, will the new iPhone support MMS?

Monday June 9, 2008 12:34 iPhone Cult

12:35

MMS?
yes

( 59% )

( 9% )

Who cares?

( 32% )

Monday June 9, 2008 12:35

12:35

Rene Ritchie:

I also wants: new "air-ish" Mac Books + Mac Book Pros, but I think the Intel delays make it unlikely before July

Monday June 9, 2008 12:35 Rene Ritchie

12:35

Dieter Bohn:

The Tampa Apple Store is NOT showing the keynote.

Monday June 9, 2008 12:35 Dieter Bohn

12:40

Rene Ritchie:

MMS will get subsumed by the greater, cross-platform/device protocols (hopefully non-proprietary). Phones will soon be indistinguisable from computers and we want want to be boxed into anything that doesn't transparently communicate with everything else...

Monday June 9, 2008 12:40 Rene Ritchie

12:40

[Comment From jackjack: ]

MMS is a dieing service

Monday June 9, 2008 12:40 jack

12:40

[Comment From CrackBerry KevinCrackBerry Kevin: ]

BlackBerrys have supported MMS for years. I dont expect to see this one get published :p

Monday June 9, 2008 12:40 CrackBerry Kevin

12:41

Rene Ritchie:

Keynote live link again:

http://www.iphonealley.com/news/macworld-2008-keynote-live-video-stream

Monday June 9, 2008 12:41 Rene Ritchie

12:41

[Comment From SolbergSolberg: ]

Only 30 min to go!

Monday June 9, 2008 12:41 Solberg

12:41

[Comment From Guest 2Guest 2: ]

New lighter, more powerful, lower priced MacBooks would be nice. Any chance Apple enters the UMPC market?

Monday June 9, 2008 12:41 Guest 2

12:43

Rene Ritchie:

@Guest 2: iTablet will come at some point (heck, iPhone was based on the previously developed iTablet), but I think today they will want to keep focus on iPhone. Maybe a special iTable event in October for the holiday season?

Monday June 9, 2008 12:43 Rene Ritchie

12:43

Rene Ritchie:

DOORS ARE OPENING!

We're crossing the Rubicon here people!

Monday June 9, 2008 12:43 Rene Ritchie

12:44

Rene Ritchie:

@Borja: Nope, I'm in Montreal. Reportedly even press had a hard time getting in. Leo Laporte was lamenting his lack of invitation on TWiT yesterday...

Monday June 9, 2008 12:44 Rene Ritchie

12:45

Dieter Bohn:

Hooray the widgets works for me again!

Monday June 9, 2008 12:45 Dieter Bohn

12:46

[Comment From MattMatt: ]

Any ideas if the VLC media player will be an offical app? Would be nice to be able to play videos in other formats. Or will it just be for jailbroken phones?

Monday June 9, 2008 12:46 Matt

12:46

Dieter Bohn:

They're literarally RUSHING in right now. running like MADMEN

Monday June 9, 2008 12:46 Dieter Bohn

12:47

Rene Ritchie:

@Matt: I don't see an official VLC. Apple won't let anything go near their iPod app.

Monday June 9, 2008 12:47 Rene Ritchie

12:47

[Comment From MosscowMosscow: ]

Women & children first!

Monday June 9, 2008 12:47 Mosscow

12:47

[Comment From BorjaBorja: ]

And what about Dieter, is he there? Someone from tib?

Monday June 9, 2008 12:47 Borja

12:48

[Comment From MosscowMosscow: ]

Women & children first!

Monday June 9, 2008 12:48 Mosscow

12:48

Dieter Bohn:

Nope, we're metaliveblogging, watching all the sites.

Monday June 9, 2008 12:48 Dieter Bohn

12:48

Rene Ritchie:

They're playing Oldies music...

Monday June 9, 2008 12:48 Rene Ritchie

12:50

Rene Ritchie:

Keynote - 20 minutes and counting!

Monday June 9, 2008 12:50 Rene Ritchie

12:51

[Comment From Blackberry JeffBlackberry Jeff: ]

What will AT&T/Apple do for current iPhone users?

Monday June 9, 2008 12:51 Blackberry Jeff

12:51

Dieter Bohn:

@Jeff - Sadly, there have been literally 0 rumors suggesting that there will be rebates or other offers for current iPhone owners.

Monday June 9, 2008 12:51 Dieter Bohn

12:51

Rene Ritchie:

iTunes Keynote Feed:

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=275834665

Monday June 9, 2008 12:51 Rene Ritchie

12:52

[Comment From DanDan: ]

@Blackberry Jeff Nothing...like most companies would do

Monday June 9, 2008 12:52 Dan

12:52

Rene Ritchie:

@Jeff: Orange in France has rumored *free* upgrades. I do not believe it pour un petite second...

Monday June 9, 2008 12:52 Rene Ritchie

12:53

Dieter Bohn:

Here are the official TiPb predictions for those who are asking: http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/06/07/iphone-3g-predictions-countdown-to-wwdc-crystal-ball/

Monday June 9, 2008 12:53 Dieter Bohn

12:54

Rene Ritchie:

A few weeks ago I found the receipt for my first ever DVD player. $700. Things change fast...

Monday June 9, 2008 12:54 Rene Ritchie

12:54

Rene Ritchie:

A few weeks ago I found the receipt for my first ever DVD player. $700. Things change fast...

Monday June 9, 2008 12:54 Rene Ritchie

12:56

Rene Ritchie:

Gizmodo has the pick! Uncle Walt is in the hizzie! (Mosconizzie?)

Monday June 9, 2008 12:56 Rene Ritchie

12:56

Dieter Bohn:

Giz:

...That's Walt Mossberg and Al Gore?

Monday June 9, 2008 12:56 Dieter Bohn

12:56

[Comment From RyanRyan: ]

Al Gore is there apparently according to engadget. Maybe the solar powered iphone? Yeah i know i doubt it too.

Monday June 9, 2008 12:56 Ryan

12:57

Dieter Bohn:

Giz:

...That's Walt Mossberg and Al Gore?

Monday June 9, 2008 12:57 Dieter Bohn

12:57

Dieter Bohn:

Giz:

...That's Walt Mossberg and Al Gore?

Monday June 9, 2008 12:57 Dieter Bohn

12:58

Dieter Bohn:

Giz:

...That's Walt Mossberg and Al Gore?

Monday June 9, 2008 12:58 Dieter Bohn

12:58

Dieter Bohn:

Sorry for the multiple posts, guys. This widget not as good as I'd like!

Monday June 9, 2008 12:58 Dieter Bohn

12:59

[Comment From LazLaz: ]

Nice triple-post there, slick!

Monday June 9, 2008 12:59 Laz

1:01

[Comment From RyanRyan: ]

Al Gore is there apparently according to engadget. Maybe the solar powered iphone? Yeah i know i doubt it too.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:01 Ryan

1:02

Rene Ritchie:

Two iMacs on stage...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:02 Rene Ritchie

1:02

Dieter Bohn:

...and we're officially late starting. ;)

Monday June 9, 2008 1:02 Dieter Bohn

1:03

Dieter Bohn:

and it looks like coveritlive is failing us off and on still. It also looks like we're starting a little late too!

Monday June 9, 2008 1:03 Dieter Bohn

1:04

Rene Ritchie:

Two iMacs on stage...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:04 Rene Ritchie

1:05

Casey Chan:

Did I come late to the party?

Monday June 9, 2008 1:05 Casey Chan

1:06

Dieter Bohn:

Several sites reporting some sort of hijinks at the back of the room, but no bloggers can tell what's going on because they're up front and can't see behind everybody standing up.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:06 Dieter Bohn

1:07

Dieter Bohn:

macrumors: Apple Employees trying to get the crowd seated and settled.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:07 Dieter Bohn

1:07

Dieter Bohn:

Several sites reporting some sort of hijinks at the back of the room, but no bloggers can tell what's going on because they're up front and can't see behind everybody standing up.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:07 Dieter Bohn

1:07

[Comment From SeagramSeagram: ]

Are they going to announce that Al Gore is really the one who invented the first iphone?

Monday June 9, 2008 1:07 Seagram

1:08

Dieter Bohn:

Steve is on stage! "We've been working real hard on some great stuff that we can't wait to share with you."

Monday June 9, 2008 1:08 Dieter Bohn

1:08

Rene Ritchie:

Wow. Nothing pwns the interwebs like a Jobsnote. The man is a living, breathing, DDoS attack...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:08 Rene Ritchie

1:08

Rene Ritchie:

STEVE JOBS ON STAGE!

Monday June 9, 2008 1:08 Rene Ritchie

1:09

Dieter Bohn:

He's talking up iFund,

Monday June 9, 2008 1:09 Dieter Bohn

1:09

Dieter Bohn:

There are 3 parts to apple now: Mac, Music, and iPhone. (AppleTV still just a hobby, I guess)

Monday June 9, 2008 1:09 Dieter Bohn

1:09

Dieter Bohn:

Ok, Snow Leopard Announced!

Monday June 9, 2008 1:09 Dieter Bohn

1:10

[Comment From LeeLee: ]

Can you see anything in his pocket? He's going to pull something out of his pocket! :)

Monday June 9, 2008 1:10 Lee

1:10

Rene Ritchie:

iPod part of Music now?

Monday June 9, 2008 1:10 Rene Ritchie

1:10

Dieter Bohn:

Talking about iPhone 2.0 now -- Enterprise features like push email, push contacts, push calendar. All of this stuff built-in.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:10 Dieter Bohn

1:11

Casey Chan:

He's looking a bit skinny. Maybe all those plane rides to foreign countries are catching up?

Monday June 9, 2008 1:11 Casey Chan

1:11

Rene Ritchie:

OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard, rumored to be a stability and feature fix version of OS X, no new features, but will integrate Mac, iPhone, Applt TV, and other branches. Building for the future...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:11 Rene Ritchie

1:11

Dieter Bohn:

Lots of companies on board with iPhone 2.0 -- wow, he seems to be keeping this overview kind of short. Good tidings for new products?

Monday June 9, 2008 1:11 Dieter Bohn

1:12

Dieter Bohn:

Video of how much enterprise customers love the iPhone 2.0

Monday June 9, 2008 1:12 Dieter Bohn

1:12

Rene Ritchie:

Bittersweet on Exchange (I use it at work). Hey for the support, tears for increasing Microsoft's lock on proprietary non-standards...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:12 Rene Ritchie

1:12

MikeOverbo:

@ Casey: his skinniness could be from the pancreatic cancer too...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:12 MikeOverbo

1:13

Rene Ritchie:

Three parts: iPhone 2.0 software, SDK, new features...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:13 Rene Ritchie

1:13

Dieter Bohn:

35% of the Fortune 500 has taken part in the beta program -- WOW. MUCH bigger than I expected. This is a much bigger threat to RIM than I would have guessed.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:13 Dieter Bohn

1:13

Dieter Bohn:

35% of the Fortune 500 has taken part in the beta program (double post sorry) -- this is a bigger rim killer than I thought.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:13 Dieter Bohn

1:14

Rene Ritchie:

@Joe: Small updated (i.e. 10.5.1) are free, full point updates (i.e. 10.6) are usually ~$120. You don't HAVE to buy anything. Depends if the features are worth it to you. (Leopard sure was to me...)

Monday June 9, 2008 1:14 Rene Ritchie

1:15

Dieter Bohn:

OOhh. Talking about Secret Service and Homeland Security. That's some security there, bub.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:15 Dieter Bohn

1:15

Rene Ritchie:

@Velenti 9am PDT at the Keynote site.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:15 Rene Ritchie

1:15

Rene Ritchie:

DEMO TIME!

Monday June 9, 2008 1:15 Rene Ritchie

1:15

Dieter Bohn:

Video's over. what's next? Demo Baby.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:15 Dieter Bohn

1:15

Rene Ritchie:

Searching contacts, filters as you type...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:15 Rene Ritchie

1:16

MikeOverbo:

@ Mike: Apple store always closed during wwdc.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:16 MikeOverbo

1:17

Dieter Bohn:

Scott Forstall - he's really moving on up in the company, ain't he? Talking up APIs --- Wish I was smarter about this stuff. But it looks like a rehash of what we've heard before. Same kernel as Mac OSX

Monday June 9, 2008 1:17 Dieter Bohn

1:17

Rene Ritchie:

Scott Forestall came with Jobs from NEXT, on the OS X team, and is the new VP of iPhone software. He demo'd the SDK in March.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:17 Rene Ritchie

1:18

Dieter Bohn:

Core Location -- If they do this right, people will laugh at Android phones when they come out. system-level GPS and location is really the biggest "secret sauce" that I've heard Android has. Now if we get Mobile Me Cloud based stuff, Andoid is dead in the water.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:18 Dieter Bohn

1:18

MikeOverbo:

basically means that anyone has experience in programming natively in OSX using the Cocoa APIs will have very few problems writing code for the iPhone.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:18 MikeOverbo

1:18

Rene Ritchie:

OS X uses the Mach kernal, and the BSD (UNIX) core.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:18 Rene Ritchie

1:19

Rene Ritchie:

Reposting: Forestall came with Jobs from NEXT, where he worked on the OS. He's the new VP of iPhone software...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:19 Rene Ritchie

1:19

Dieter Bohn:

Don't have enough time to demo all the tools (yay! good stuff coming), so he's showing interface builder.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:19 Dieter Bohn

1:20

Dieter Bohn:

not having enough time to go through everything == good news for big announcements later.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:20 Dieter Bohn

1:20

Rene Ritchie:

Apple says they're eating their own dog food wrt development. If true, that's a very good sign (reminder: it's a developers conference, not a consumer show like Macworld, so they'll be heavier with the geek!)

Monday June 9, 2008 1:20 Rene Ritchie

1:22

Dieter Bohn:

Boy oh boy our site is having problems, innit? Whatever you do, don't refresh the page, you might not make it back! ;) Still going through interface builder.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:22 Dieter Bohn

1:23

Rene Ritchie:

I'll be posting in the comments as well, just in case... (Again, Jobs is a one man DDoS attack -- he pwns the interwebs).

Monday June 9, 2008 1:23 Rene Ritchie

1:23

Dieter Bohn:

The "nearby friends" app is sweet, though. Being able to see any of your friends withiin 10 miles. I always love apps that make it easier for me to bar hop with friends.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:23 Dieter Bohn

1:23

[Comment From Rene Ritchie (Comments)Rene Ritchie (Comments): ]

Forestall is demoing the SDK... He came with Jobs from NEXT where he worked on the OS. Now he's VP of iPhone software....

Monday June 9, 2008 1:23 Rene Ritchie (Comments)

1:24

Dieter Bohn:

I hear there's a live stream at Yahoo: http://live.yahoo.com/Viru ...not loading for me properly though.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:24 Dieter Bohn

1:24

Rene Ritchie:

The cloud is the future. Google is predicted to earn more than Windows/Office next year. Everyone will want their piece. Apple is smart to get in on it this way, and now...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:24 Rene Ritchie

1:25

Rene Ritchie:

The SDK looks incredibly polished and does tons of heavy lifting for coders right out the box. Amazing piece of work. Anyone who still thinks this was just rushed out the door in March is crazy...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:25 Rene Ritchie

1:25

Dieter Bohn:

The demo has wrapped up, "this has been out for 3 months [...] what do they think of it so far? The responses are unbelievable positive"

Monday June 9, 2008 1:25 Dieter Bohn

1:25

Rene Ritchie:

BTW- Looks like Forestall is building the Friends App right there on stage! Dayum!

Monday June 9, 2008 1:25 Rene Ritchie

1:26

Dieter Bohn:

"It blows away everyting we've worked with RIM"

Monday June 9, 2008 1:26 Dieter Bohn

1:27

Dieter Bohn:

"It blows away anything we've worked with with RIM" ZINGO ZANGO! No wonder it's on 30% of Fortune 500 companies

Monday June 9, 2008 1:27 Dieter Bohn

1:27

MikeOverbo:

( j2me is rim's development platform, and it can be a bit of a mess ;)

Monday June 9, 2008 1:27 MikeOverbo

1:28

Dieter Bohn:

Bringing in a bunch of developers to show what they've created. The first is Sega, probably going to show us another demo of Super Monkey Ball. WANT THIS GAME. Looks like tons of fun. They've polished it and gotten it ready for market.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:28 Dieter Bohn

1:29

Dieter Bohn:

LOL. They have all 4 original monkeys, 5 different worlds full of levels. This is the best gaming platform. Showing off how well the tilt control works -- "pinpoint precision" -- huge applause.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:29 Dieter Bohn

1:29

Dieter Bohn:

Huge applause for the pinpoint precision of the accelerometer

Monday June 9, 2008 1:29 Dieter Bohn

1:30

Dieter Bohn:

(possible trip post here) Huge applause for the pinpoint precision of the accelerometer

Monday June 9, 2008 1:30 Dieter Bohn

1:30

Dieter Bohn:

$9.99 for super monkey ball!!!

Monday June 9, 2008 1:30 Dieter Bohn

1:30

[Comment From shaelshael: ]

ebay BOOOOOOOO

Monday June 9, 2008 1:30 shael

1:31

Dieter Bohn:

eBay app going to be demo'd now. Yawner? I'm not an eBay fanatic so I can't really comment.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:31 Dieter Bohn

1:31

Rene Ritchie:

Casey is probably trying to order SMB as he types...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:31 Rene Ritchie

1:31

MikeOverbo:

$10 is a good price. should sell like hotcakes. wonder if the price was set by apple or Sega...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:31 MikeOverbo

1:32

[Comment From shaelshael: ]

sega....

Monday June 9, 2008 1:32 shael

1:32

[Comment From shaelshael: ]

sega... for sure

Monday June 9, 2008 1:32 shael

1:32

Casey Chan:

over 100 levels! easy buy!

Monday June 9, 2008 1:32 Casey Chan

1:32

Dieter Bohn:

likely the price was set by both. Apple recently exhorted developers to not offer free apps if they can help it.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:32 Dieter Bohn

1:32

[Comment From ZachZach: ]

Hopefully some of the other big game makers will follow suit and keep the prices low

Monday June 9, 2008 1:32 Zach

1:32

Rene Ritchie:

Apple takes %30 for hosting/transaction, Sega takes %70 for the game. App Store puts in in front of every iPhone user. HUGE!!

Monday June 9, 2008 1:32 Rene Ritchie

1:32

Dieter Bohn:

Likely set by both, IMO. Apple recently exhorted developers to not offer free apps.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:32 Dieter Bohn

1:33

Dieter Bohn:

eBay app is FREE

Monday June 9, 2008 1:33 Dieter Bohn

1:33

Dieter Bohn:

eBay app is free!

Monday June 9, 2008 1:33 Dieter Bohn

1:33

Rene Ritchie:

@Dieter: I don't buy that story. My guess is free for simple/demo, paid for consumer/full level. Apple gives away too much HD video (bandwidth intensive) for them to be cheap on app downloads.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:33 Rene Ritchie

1:34

Rene Ritchie:

Yup, Apple will want tons of free apps just to grow the platform.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:34 Rene Ritchie

1:34

Dieter Bohn:

Chris @ the Tampe apple Store "Pretty sure they have them here. The one worker hinted toward it."

Monday June 9, 2008 1:34 Dieter Bohn

1:34

[Comment From CrackBerry KevinCrackBerry Kevin: ]

Might have to start carrying both a BlackBerry Bold and an iPhone :)

Monday June 9, 2008 1:34 CrackBerry Kevin

1:34

Rene Ritchie:

Jobs quote: Previous Apple management went for money over marketshare. He won't make that mistake...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:34 Rene Ritchie

1:35

Dieter Bohn:

(Comments may be broken, will add them when I can)

Monday June 9, 2008 1:35 Dieter Bohn

1:35

Dieter Bohn:

Showing Loopt now -- another social networking app that gives your friends' location.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:35 Dieter Bohn

1:35

[Comment From HouseofGHouseofG: ]

@Dieter - Did Tampa and Tempe merger? No wonder it's so damn hot here!

Monday June 9, 2008 1:35 HouseofG

1:36

Dieter Bohn:

@HouseofG: Quite youse!

Monday June 9, 2008 1:36 Dieter Bohn

1:36

Dieter Bohn:

TypePad (SixApart) showing off their app. I wonder if it's basically the same thing as the web app?

Monday June 9, 2008 1:36 Dieter Bohn

1:36

Dieter Bohn:

TypePad (SixApart) showing off their app. I wonder if it's basically the same thing as the web app?

Monday June 9, 2008 1:36 Dieter Bohn

1:36

Rene Ritchie:

Given the cult-of-Mac, that will nail a significant elitist networking niche... :)

Monday June 9, 2008 1:36 Rene Ritchie

1:37

[Comment From CrackBerry KevinCrackBerry Kevin: ]

Might have to start carrying both a BlackBerry Bold and an iPhone :)

Monday June 9, 2008 1:37 CrackBerry Kevin

1:37

[Comment From GuestGuest: ]

live audio: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/wwdc-2008-live-keynote-audio-stream

Monday June 9, 2008 1:37 Guest

1:38

MikeOverbo:

blog posts with photos uploaded from the camera will be nice.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:38 MikeOverbo

1:38

Dieter Bohn:

we're over a half hour in and the new stuff is just that they promised to show Snow Leopard "after lunch." I'm getting nervous.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:38 Dieter Bohn

1:38

MikeOverbo:

(loopt is free!)

Monday June 9, 2008 1:38 MikeOverbo

1:38

Dieter Bohn:

TypePad will be free too.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:38 Dieter Bohn

1:38

Dieter Bohn:

TypePad will be free too.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:38 Dieter Bohn

1:40

Dieter Bohn:

Now we hear from the Associated Press. A Native News app sounds nice. "Mobile News Network."

Monday June 9, 2008 1:40 Dieter Bohn

1:40

Dieter Bohn:

Now we hear from the Associated Press. A Native News app sounds nice. "Mobile News Network."

Monday June 9, 2008 1:40 Dieter Bohn

1:40

Rene Ritchie:

Gruber is saying Serlet's Snow Leopard demo this afternoon will be under NDA...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:40 Rene Ritchie

1:40

[Comment From AndrewAndrew: ]

I'm really happy to see all of these free apps that are coming out. I know it is only a few, but it will definitely give a boost to platform, allowing people to experience a few, and then be pulled into spending $ on programs.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:40 Andrew

1:41

Dieter Bohn:

Andrew writes "I'm really happy to see all of these free apps". 100% Agreed. (comments still borked, stil trying to publish them directly)

Monday June 9, 2008 1:41 Dieter Bohn

1:41

[Comment From StarrWulfeStarrWulfe: ]

remember, whatever is shown today will help shape the coming year not just for iphone-heads, but for the entire mobile device and application space...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:41 StarrWulfe

1:41

Rene Ritchie:

Repost: Gruber is saying Snow Leopard won't be shown until Serlet's demo later today, which will be under NDA...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:41 Rene Ritchie

1:42

Dieter Bohn:

Oof. Another demo of another SDK. Pangea Software, a Mac Games developer. iPhone 2.0 and App Store better launch TODAY or I'll be unhappy. Then again, we have to remember, this is the WW DEVELOPERS conference. Still. Le Sigh.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:42 Dieter Bohn

1:42

Rene Ritchie:

Jobs is discussing SDK first, new features next (according to what they say he said), so stuff on GPS, etc. is hopefully still to come...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:42 Rene Ritchie

1:43

[Comment From SeagramSeagram: ]

So GPS is all but confirmed, right? It is needed for Loopt, right?

Monday June 9, 2008 1:43 Seagram

1:43

[Comment From StarrWulfeStarrWulfe: ]

remember, whatever is shown today will help shape the coming year not just for iphone-heads, but for the entire mobile device and application space...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:43 StarrWulfe

1:43

[Comment From AndrewAndrew: ]

Monday June 9, 2008 1:43 Andrew

1:43

Rene Ritchie:

App Store live today, or live when 3G goes on sale? I'm guessing the latter...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:43 Rene Ritchie

1:44

Rene Ritchie:

@StarWulfe: Apple defined the CLI with the Apple II, the GUI with the Mac, now they are re-defining the mobile platform with iPhone...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:44 Rene Ritchie

1:44

[Comment From wallyfr00wallyfr00: ]

@Dieter - Gizmodo's blog said "WordPress told them their native iPhone app is coming soon, somewhere around the end of the week or early next week." maybe that means we'll get the app store today

Monday June 9, 2008 1:44 wallyfr00

1:45

[Comment From AndrewAndrew: ]

I'm currently sitting in an Apple store...a few employees won't tell me anything, but they've said they haven't seen anything in the back...they must be lying.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:45 Andrew

1:45

Dieter Bohn:

[Andrew writes: "I'm currently sitting in an Apple store...a few employees won't tell me anything, but they've said they haven't seen anything in the back...they must be lying." ]

Monday June 9, 2008 1:45 Dieter Bohn

1:45

MikeOverbo:

my guess: live when 2.0 software is released, today

Monday June 9, 2008 1:45 MikeOverbo

1:45

Dieter Bohn:

[Andrew writes: "I'm currently sitting in an Apple store...a few employees won't tell me anything, but they've said they haven't seen anything in the back...they must be lying." ]

Monday June 9, 2008 1:45 Dieter Bohn

1:45

Dieter Bohn:

[Andrew writes: "I'm currently sitting in an Apple store...a few employees won't tell me anything, but they've said they haven't seen anything in the back...they must be lying." ]

Monday June 9, 2008 1:45 Dieter Bohn

1:46

Dieter Bohn:

Another developer. "even a solo developer can create an amazing application for the iPhone." Developer for the Insurance Industry from England. Not what we're going to expect, eh?

Monday June 9, 2008 1:46 Dieter Bohn

1:46

Rene Ritchie:

Repost: Apple defined the CLI with the APPLE II, the GUI with the Mac, and now are re-defining the mobile platform...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:46 Rene Ritchie

1:46

Dieter Bohn:

Another developer. "even a solo developer can create an amazing application for the iPhone." Developer for the Insurance Industry from England. Not what we're going to expect, eh?

Monday June 9, 2008 1:46 Dieter Bohn

1:46

Dieter Bohn:

Another developer. "even a solo developer can create an amazing application for the iPhone." Developer for the Insurance Industry from England. Not what we're going to expect, eh?

Monday June 9, 2008 1:46 Dieter Bohn

1:46

Casey Chan:

Pangea's games are also $9.99. Think that's going to be the price point for games?

Monday June 9, 2008 1:46 Casey Chan

1:47

Rene Ritchie:

Graphical level of Nintendo N64, 3 days to get ports up and running...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:47 Rene Ritchie

1:47

Rene Ritchie:

Repost: Apple defined the CLI with the APPLE II, the GUI with the Mac, and now are re-defining the mobile platform...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:47 Rene Ritchie

1:47

Dieter Bohn:

Looks likea music making app. Lots of fun and lots of applause for him.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:47 Dieter Bohn

1:48

MikeOverbo:

portable garage band!

Monday June 9, 2008 1:48 MikeOverbo

1:48

Dieter Bohn:

Dang! Everybody thinks it's awesome. Good move ending with the one guy who makes an app in his spare time. Everybody is super smiley-time with this!

Monday June 9, 2008 1:48 Dieter Bohn

1:48

Rene Ritchie:

Enigmo and Cro-Mag rally are the game titles...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:48 Rene Ritchie

1:48

Dieter Bohn:

Oh, wishful thinking he was last. :-/ . MLB.com is up next -- demo'ing a baseball app next.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:48 Dieter Bohn

1:49

Rene Ritchie:

Enigmo and cro-mag ralley were the 2 games...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:49 Rene Ritchie

1:49

[Comment From Brent SheltonBrent Shelton: ]

Dev Center for iphone is down too so 2.0 should be available today http://developer.apple.com/iphone

Monday June 9, 2008 1:49 Brent Shelton

1:49

Rene Ritchie:

Repost: Enigmo and cro-mag ralley were the 2 games...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:49 Rene Ritchie

1:50

Dieter Bohn:

MLB App has REAL TIME VIDEO.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:50 Dieter Bohn

1:50

Casey Chan:

$9.99 looks like the price point for games...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:50 Casey Chan

1:50

Rene Ritchie:

All demo's are being shown on what looks like current gen iPhones...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:50 Rene Ritchie

1:50

Dieter Bohn:

"Best possible Video experience on EDGE." Wouldn't that be "not"? Wokka wokka!

Monday June 9, 2008 1:50 Dieter Bohn

1:50

[Comment From Bruce KambyBruce Kamby: ]

"All demo's are being shown on what looks like current gen iPhones... " Maybe to show their backwards compatibility

Monday June 9, 2008 1:50 Bruce Kamby

1:51

Dieter Bohn:

Two more medical apps -- this thing is going to replace Palm and PPC for a LOT of medical industry types.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:51 Dieter Bohn

1:52

Rene Ritchie:

Steve Jobs giving glasses of water to the medical industry...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:52 Rene Ritchie

1:52

[Comment From MC1171611MC1171611: ]

by 2.0 all iPhones will be running the same firmware...just a little different hardware for the 3G

Monday June 9, 2008 1:52 MC1171611

1:53

Casey Chan:

So I guess I can see my Dodger's futility everywhere I go now?

Monday June 9, 2008 1:53 Casey Chan

1:53

Rene Ritchie:

@MC1171611: Like Leopard on a G4 vs. Intel Core 2 Duo...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:53 Rene Ritchie

1:53

[Comment From StarrWulfeStarrWulfe: ]

if only it had an IR transceiver--it would also replace the palm as the PDA of choice for those in the real estate industry that must use lockboxes.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:53 StarrWulfe

1:54

MikeOverbo:

1/2 hour of app demos so far...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:54 MikeOverbo

1:54

Rene Ritchie:

It's WWDC :)

Monday June 9, 2008 1:54 Rene Ritchie

1:54

Dieter Bohn:

Another Medical app. Sorry guys, I can't get myself to care too deeply about this beyond knowing that there is a TON of smarpthone and PDA use out there and this is a Big. Deal. for a lot of people.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:54 Dieter Bohn

1:54

[Comment From PaulPaul: ]

It's almost an hour later; where are the Apple product announcements? Hmm.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:54 Paul

1:55

[Comment From CrackBerry KevinCrackBerry Kevin: ]

Apparently Apple's stock is down $5 since this live blog started... they should just get to the good stuff!

Monday June 9, 2008 1:55 CrackBerry Kevin

1:55

Dieter Bohn:

[From CrackBerry Kevin: Apparently Apple's stock is down $5 since this live blog started... they should just get to the good stuff!]

Monday June 9, 2008 1:55 Dieter Bohn

1:56

Rene Ritchie:

Like Indy 4, the App demo segment could've used some good editing...

Monday June 9, 2008 1:56 Rene Ritchie

1:57

Rene Ritchie:

@Crackberry Kevin: Profit takers panicking over too many free apps??

Monday June 9, 2008 1:57 Rene Ritchie

1:57

Dieter Bohn:

"removed it from the realm of black art." ..iPhone 2.0: the best thing to hit the medical industry since leeches!

Monday June 9, 2008 1:57 Dieter Bohn

1:58

Dieter Bohn:

Ok, phew, we're on the last app demo now. Hooray! Another game

Monday June 9, 2008 1:58 Dieter Bohn

1:58

[Comment From DaveDave: ]

@Dieter, at apple store now, columbia, md, no new units, no clean shelf, zip. business as usual, employees not saying squat :o(

Monday June 9, 2008 1:58 Dave

1:58

[Comment From ckwellsckwells: ]

No one cares about half of this crap. Show us something good.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:58 ckwells

1:58

[Comment From GaryUSCGaryUSC: ]

If there are no announcement for the 3G iPhone today, the stock will retreat by more than just $5. A lot of the recent run up in the share price has the 3G iPhone news built in to it.

Monday June 9, 2008 1:58 GaryUSC

1:58

[Comment From Rene Ritchie (Comments)Rene Ritchie (Comments): ]

Any more of these medial apps and I am going to need a doctor!

Monday June 9, 2008 1:58 Rene Ritchie (Comments)

1:59

MikeOverbo:

to garyUSC: the stocks will just go up again when it's released anyway. :)

Monday June 9, 2008 1:59 MikeOverbo

1:59

Dieter Bohn:

Ok, we're done with demos now. I can has iPhone 3G now??

Monday June 9, 2008 1:59 Dieter Bohn

2:00

Rene Ritchie:

3D (not 3G!) fantasy adventure game, done in just 2 weeks. Somewhere between DS and PSP quality...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:00 Rene Ritchie

2:00

Rene Ritchie:

Ready by September...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:00 Rene Ritchie

2:01

MikeOverbo:

'dungeon siege' has been mentioned as a comparison to the fantasy game.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:01 MikeOverbo

2:01

Dieter Bohn:

"There has been 1 feature request that doesn't currently exist in the SDK that doesn't exist yet." They want to get a notification even when the user isn't currently running the application.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:01 Dieter Bohn

2:01

Dieter Bohn:

the wrong solution is to enable background processes. To allow an app to continue to run [...] bad for battery life... bad for performance...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:01 Dieter Bohn

2:02

Dieter Bohn:

making fun of WM's task manager

Monday June 9, 2008 2:02 Dieter Bohn

2:02

Rene Ritchie:

Also gets into issues of notification overload/collision...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:02 Rene Ritchie

2:02

Dieter Bohn:

mocking WM task manager. but offering a push notification service to all devs!!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:02 Dieter Bohn

2:02

Dieter Bohn:

mocking WM task manager. but offering a push notification service to all devs!!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:02 Dieter Bohn

2:03

Dieter Bohn:

mocking WM task manager. but offering a push notification service to all devs!!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:03 Dieter Bohn

2:03

MikeOverbo:

Gary -- there's generally no price difference between edge plans and 3g plans.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:03 MikeOverbo

2:03

Dieter Bohn:

mocking WM task manager. but offering a push notification service to all devs!! (expect multiple posts on this one)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:03 Dieter Bohn

2:03

Rene Ritchie:

Repost: Also bad for notification overload/collision

Monday June 9, 2008 2:03 Rene Ritchie

2:03

Dieter Bohn:

push service gives you your own custom sounds, text alerts, etc. This is a good solution. Sort of a half NOC I guess.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:03 Dieter Bohn

2:04

Rene Ritchie:

Repost: Also bad for notification overload/collision

Monday June 9, 2008 2:04 Rene Ritchie

2:04

Rene Ritchie:

Repost: Also bad for notification overload/collision

Monday June 9, 2008 2:04 Rene Ritchie

2:04

Dieter Bohn:

the Push service will be available in september... the update for the SDK. sounds like we'll get the apps before that. We're done with the SDK update!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:04 Dieter Bohn

2:04

Dieter Bohn:

the Push service will be available in september... the update for the SDK. sounds like we'll get the apps before that. We're done with the SDK update!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:04 Dieter Bohn

2:05

Dieter Bohn:

the Push service will be available in september... the update for the SDK. sounds like we'll get the apps before that. We're done with the SDK update! (repost)
. Steve back on

Monday June 9, 2008 2:05 Dieter Bohn

2:05

Dieter Bohn:

the Push service will be available in september... the update for the SDK. sounds like we'll get the apps before that. We're done with the SDK update! (repost)
. Steve back on

Monday June 9, 2008 2:05 Dieter Bohn

2:05

Dieter Bohn:

the Push service will be available in september... the update for the SDK. sounds like we'll get the apps before that. We're done with the SDK update! (repost)
. Steve back on

Monday June 9, 2008 2:05 Dieter Bohn

2:05

MikeOverbo:

w00t for push services. noc style scares me, given all those blackberry outages. @thomrobinson: at&t has a 3g coverage map on their website so you can check if your area is covered.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:05 MikeOverbo

2:05

Dieter Bohn:

the Push service will be available in september... the update for the SDK. sounds like we'll get the apps before that. We're done with the SDK update! (repost)
. Steve back on. Contact search is here. Full iWork documents! Edit documents!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:05 Dieter Bohn

2:06

Rene Ritchie:

I was wrong, Mobile iWork now!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:06 Rene Ritchie

2:06

Dieter Bohn:

Office docs too of course. Oh wait, maybe not editing? Nope, sorry for the wrong news...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:06 Dieter Bohn

2:06

Dieter Bohn:

This is nuts. yeah.. ok, it is.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:06 Dieter Bohn

2:06

Dieter Bohn:

scientific calculator, parental controls.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:06 Dieter Bohn

2:06

Dieter Bohn:

scientific calculator, parental controls.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:06 Dieter Bohn

2:06

[Comment From JFHJFH: ]

Copy paste?

Monday June 9, 2008 2:06 JFH

2:06

Dieter Bohn:

scientific calculator, parental controls.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:06 Dieter Bohn

2:07

Dieter Bohn:

scientific calculator, parental controls.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:07 Dieter Bohn

2:07

Dieter Bohn:

scientific calculator, parental controls.(repost). a lot of new langauges! 2 forms of entry for Japanese and 2 for Chinese.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:07 Dieter Bohn

2:07

Dieter Bohn:

scientific calculator, parental controls.(repost). a lot of new langauges! 2 forms of entry for Japanese and 2 for Chinese.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:07 Dieter Bohn

2:07

Dieter Bohn:

scientific calculator, parental controls.(repost). a lot of new langauges! 2 forms of entry for Japanese and 2 for Chinese.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:07 Dieter Bohn

2:07

[Comment From sietedos72sietedos72: ]

Apples shares are down from $185 to $178 and still falling!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:07 sietedos72

2:07

Dieter Bohn:

scientific calculator, parental controls.(repost). a lot of new langauges! 2 forms of entry for Japanese and 2 for Chinese.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:07 Dieter Bohn

2:07

Rene Ritchie:

Demi-Noc still single point of failure, but the criticality of the apps depending on it might mitigate (or should for sane users...) Still, CrackBerry Kevin will mock the demi-NOC at first signs of outage...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:07 Rene Ritchie

2:08

Casey Chan:

Hey, we get to save our images in e-mail directly to library now..

Monday June 9, 2008 2:08 Casey Chan

2:08

Dieter Bohn:

released in early July. BOOO

Monday June 9, 2008 2:08 Dieter Bohn

2:08

MikeOverbo:

parental controls and international language support...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:08 MikeOverbo

2:08

Dieter Bohn:

released in early July. BOOO. Price down to $9.95 for iPod Touch users.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:08 Dieter Bohn

2:08

[Comment From Jonathan CampbellJonathan Campbell: ]

early july...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:08 Jonathan Campbell

2:08

Rene Ritchie:

#Apple Shares: They will fall until the moment Jobs pulls the iPhone 3G from his pocket...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:08 Rene Ritchie

2:08

Dieter Bohn:

released in early July. BOOO. Price down to $9.95 for iPod Touch users.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:08 Dieter Bohn

2:09

[Comment From Darren LuDarren Lu: ]

RE: saving email images: ABOUT TIME

Monday June 9, 2008 2:09 Darren Lu

2:09

Dieter Bohn:

[Darren writes: RE: saving email images: ABOUT TIME]

Monday June 9, 2008 2:09 Dieter Bohn

2:09

Dieter Bohn:

[Darren writes: RE: saving email images: ABOUT TIME]

Monday June 9, 2008 2:09 Dieter Bohn

2:09

[Comment From CrackBerry KevinCrackBerry Kevin: ]

@ Rene. The only reason I would knock the demi-NOC failure is so you have material to write about for your weekly Smartphone Schadenfreude

Monday June 9, 2008 2:09 CrackBerry Kevin

2:09

[Comment From sietedos72sietedos72: ]

Stop press, Apples stock now down nearly $10, and $5 of that is the last 5 mins... they need that 3G!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:09 sietedos72

2:10

Dieter Bohn:

62 Countries for the App Store..

Monday June 9, 2008 2:10 Dieter Bohn

2:10

MikeOverbo:

second on that boo! for july. we were promised june, if memory serves.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:10 MikeOverbo

2:10

Casey Chan:

If 3G is out today, all will be forgiven though..

Monday June 9, 2008 2:10 Casey Chan

2:10

Dieter Bohn:

If the app is over 10 megabytes, has to be downloaded over WiFi or iTunes, otherwise they'll let you download over "cellular network".

Monday June 9, 2008 2:10 Dieter Bohn

2:10

Rene Ritchie:

Yup, June. Which previously meant June 30 at 11:59pm. Still, better late and polished than rushed and Vista'd...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:10 Rene Ritchie

2:11

MikeOverbo:

devs set price for apps, not everything will be $10 or free.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:11 MikeOverbo

2:11

Dieter Bohn:

They're doing a customer "enterprise" option for distributiing apps just to their iPhones. In other words, if you want to sell via something other than the app store, this could POTENTIALLY be a window you could FORCE open. For now, though, expect it just to work for enterprise.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:11 Dieter Bohn

2:11

Rene Ritchie:

FairPlay DRM will wrap all apps

Monday June 9, 2008 2:11 Rene Ritchie

2:12

Dieter Bohn:

Whoa, wrong! Ad Hoc Apps....

Monday June 9, 2008 2:12 Dieter Bohn

2:12

Rene Ritchie:

(This means if you sell your iPhone, the person who buys it may not be able to take ownership of the apps since they'll be bound to the original iTunes account...)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:12 Rene Ritchie

2:12

Dieter Bohn:

"Ad Hoc Distribution" -- expanding Developer Certification Program.. you can register up to 100 iPhones ... so not really a good distribution method widely, but more for academic purposes....

Monday June 9, 2008 2:12 Dieter Bohn

2:13

Dieter Bohn:

SOMETHING ENTIRELY NEW. MOBILE ME.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:13 Dieter Bohn

2:13

Dieter Bohn:

Phil Shiller coming on.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:13 Dieter Bohn

2:13

Dieter Bohn:

Phil Schiller doing the demo

Monday June 9, 2008 2:13 Dieter Bohn

2:13

[Comment From zebuzebu: ]

what about copy/paste?

Monday June 9, 2008 2:13 zebu

2:13

[Comment From Jonathan CampbellJonathan Campbell: ]

great name..

Monday June 9, 2008 2:13 Jonathan Campbell

2:13

Rene Ritchie:

Repost: DRM likely means that if you sell your iPhone, the buyer won't get the apps since they can't authorize the original iTunes account)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:13 Rene Ritchie

2:14

Dieter Bohn:

"Exchange for the Rest of Us" Schiller called it "ActiveStink" Whoops. :D

Monday June 9, 2008 2:14 Dieter Bohn

2:14

Dieter Bohn:

"Exchange for the Rest of Us" Schiller called it "ActiveStink" Whoops. :D

Monday June 9, 2008 2:14 Dieter Bohn

2:14

Dieter Bohn:

"Exchange for the Rest of Us" Schiller called it "ActiveStink" Whoops. :D (repost)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:14 Dieter Bohn

2:14

Rene Ritchie:

Repost: DRM likely means that if you sell your iPhone, the buyer won't get the apps since they can't authorize the original iTunes account)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:14 Rene Ritchie

2:14

Dieter Bohn:

"Exchange for the Rest of Us" Schiller called it "ActiveStink" Whoops. :D (repost) With Mobile me we can all get push email, contacts, and calendar

Monday June 9, 2008 2:14 Dieter Bohn

2:14

Dieter Bohn:

Compatible with Mac and PC.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:14 Dieter Bohn

2:15

Rene Ritchie:

If MobileMe popularizes IMAP IDLE, CalDAV and related open protocols, it will be good for non-Exchange internet development...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:15 Rene Ritchie

2:15

Dieter Bohn:

Showing how everything pushes -- from computer to mobileme, from iPhone to mobileme , etc etc.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:15 Dieter Bohn

2:16

Dieter Bohn:

Works with native apps on Mac or PC. iCal, Mail, Address book, Outlook.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:16 Dieter Bohn

2:16

Rene Ritchie:

Here comes the cloud...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:16 Rene Ritchie

2:16

Rene Ritchie:

Here comes the cloud!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:16 Rene Ritchie

2:16

MikeOverbo:

syncing .mac stuff to more than two computers with .mac is at times fraught with peril... hopefully the push aspect (with central info @ .mac) fixes this.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:16 MikeOverbo

2:16

Dieter Bohn:

They built Web 2.0 apps to go with all this too. Doesn't sound like we're getting Google-backed services. it's Me.com

Monday June 9, 2008 2:16 Dieter Bohn

2:17

Rene Ritchie:

Here comes the cloud!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:17 Rene Ritchie

2:17

Dieter Bohn:

me.com isn't live yet.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:17 Dieter Bohn

2:17

Dieter Bohn:

me.com isn't live yet.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:17 Dieter Bohn

2:17

[Comment From TomTom: ]

No task sync???????

Monday June 9, 2008 2:17 Tom

2:17

Dieter Bohn:

me.com isn't live yet. (repost)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:17 Dieter Bohn

2:17

[Comment From StarrWulfeStarrWulfe: ]

but will mobileME play nicely with those of us using exchange? can we sync different types? (Exchange, SyncML, etc?)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:17 StarrWulfe

2:17

[Comment From Thom RobinsonThom Robinson: ]

What if you only use GMail? Will you be able to get your contact information from that?

Monday June 9, 2008 2:17 Thom Robinson

2:17

Rene Ritchie:

MobileMe won't work with Exchange -- it's designed to BE Exchange for non-Exchange users...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:17 Rene Ritchie

2:17

Dieter Bohn:

Photos can be synced over the air as well.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:17 Dieter Bohn

2:18

[Comment From CrackBerry KevinCrackBerry Kevin: ]

Will MobileMe push back to a BlackBerry??

Monday June 9, 2008 2:18 CrackBerry Kevin

2:18

Dieter Bohn:

[CrackBerry Kevin] -
Will MobileMe push back to a BlackBerry??

Monday June 9, 2008 2:18 Dieter Bohn

2:18

Rene Ritchie:

Repost: MobileMe won't work with Exchange, it's designed to BE Exchange for non-Exchange users, and likely do more of what a non-Business user will like...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:18 Rene Ritchie

2:18

Dieter Bohn:

won't work with BlackBerries either I'm sure.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:18 Dieter Bohn

2:18

Dieter Bohn:

demo Time!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:18 Dieter Bohn

2:18

MikeOverbo:

(web apps with ajax) -- probably a very portable client.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:18 MikeOverbo

2:18

Rene Ritchie:

(But will it be competitive with Windows Live Mesh when that goes Live-er?)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:18 Rene Ritchie

2:19

Rene Ritchie:

But will it be competitive with Windows Live Mesh when that goes Live-er??

Monday June 9, 2008 2:19 Rene Ritchie

2:19

Dieter Bohn:

"just like a desktop app" -- round of applause.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:19 Dieter Bohn

2:20

Dieter Bohn:

iDisk built into MobileMe.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:20 Dieter Bohn

2:20

Rene Ritchie:

GUI is gorgeous. They really nail the software/services hybrid client. This is a good entry into the Cloud Space. I wonder if the Google CEO recused himself from Apple board meetings on this??

Monday June 9, 2008 2:20 Rene Ritchie

2:20

MikeOverbo:

@George Smart: the publish comment widget is broken.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:20 MikeOverbo

2:20

[Comment From George SmartGeorge Smart: ]

Apple stock is at $6.55

Monday June 9, 2008 2:20 George Smart

2:20

[Comment From StarrWulfeStarrWulfe: ]

*sigh* no "holy Grail" for us that like to keep both work (Exchange) and personal (GCalendar or iCal) in sync on one device... Any developers out there wanna take a shot at that one?

Monday June 9, 2008 2:20 StarrWulfe

2:21

Rene Ritchie:

@George Smart: The stock isn't AT $6.55, it's stll in the high hundreds... :)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:21 Rene Ritchie

2:22

[Comment From CatCat: ]

It's down $6.15

Monday June 9, 2008 2:22 Cat

2:22

Dieter Bohn:

TUAW points out the lack of adds. smells like a subscription.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:22 Dieter Bohn

2:22

Rene Ritchie:

@StarWulfe: Exchange runs on proprietary protocols designed for monopolistic reasons not to play nice with others.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:22 Rene Ritchie

2:22

MikeOverbo:

let's hope its built into .mac so my money spent there starts being useful ;P

Monday June 9, 2008 2:22 MikeOverbo

2:22

Rene Ritchie:

.Mac is already $100 a year, so I'm guessing this will be paid. (And @Mike: AGREED!)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:22 Rene Ritchie

2:23

Dieter Bohn:

contact app has built-in support for Google Maps.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:23 Dieter Bohn

2:23

Rene Ritchie:

(They also need to significantly up the iDisk storage limit)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:23 Rene Ritchie

2:23

[Comment From sietedos72sietedos72: ]

They will have to lower the price for mobileme, I don't think .mac took off so well due to it being $100 a year or something.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:23 sietedos72

2:23

[Comment From mervmerv: ]

the screenshot on engadget of login page *does* say signup for a "free trial"... so definitely some money exchanged at some point.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:23 merv

2:23

[Comment From DavidDavid: ]

How long does this whole conference go for? If the 3G iPhone is the last thing to be announced, what is the latest this would happen?

Monday June 9, 2008 2:23 David

2:24

Dieter Bohn:

@David - probably in the next 20 minutes.. due to last another 40...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:24 Dieter Bohn

2:24

MikeOverbo:

@david: they don't usually announce when the end is

Monday June 9, 2008 2:24 MikeOverbo

2:24

Dieter Bohn:

I stand corrected. :D Still demoing MobileMe by the way. Or is is Me.com? Worst Branding to come out of Apple in years.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:24 Dieter Bohn

2:24

Rene Ritchie:

@Enagdget: Odds of this being Flash based? I would guess less that nill... (Though it would certainly re-ignite the rumors...)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:24 Rene Ritchie

2:25

[Comment From RyanRyan: ]

No 3G announcement. I'm calling it. Apple with a big fumble at the goal line.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:25 Ryan

2:25

[Comment From MC1171611MC1171611: ]

No doubt the .Mac service will be rolled into MobileMe either right now or soon...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:25 MC1171611

2:25

[Comment From LazLaz: ]

Dieter, I'd be willing to bet that the move from .mac to .me was designed to lure non-Mac iPhone / iPod users

Monday June 9, 2008 2:25 Laz

2:25

[Comment From momo: ]

heard al gore is gonna demo it?

Monday June 9, 2008 2:25 mo

2:25

MikeOverbo:

@laz: that's a great call.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:25 MikeOverbo

2:25

Dieter Bohn:

@mo: LOL! Will he do it with PowerPoint?

Monday June 9, 2008 2:25 Dieter Bohn

2:26

Rene Ritchie:

@Dieter, isn't Al a *huge* Keynote user? Or was that a power industry joke? :)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:26 Rene Ritchie

2:26

Dieter Bohn:

This mobile me stuff all looks pretty slick, but it's ambiguous -- will it only work with a me.com email address??

Monday June 9, 2008 2:26 Dieter Bohn

2:27

Rene Ritchie:

Bets on who gets first registration of mini@me.com??? (TM Brian)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:27 Rene Ritchie

2:27

Dieter Bohn:

wrapping up... Service, available for 99 per year.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:27 Dieter Bohn

2:27

Dieter Bohn:

20gb of online storage.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:27 Dieter Bohn

2:27

MikeOverbo:

longshot: it will work with any mail provider that gives imap access.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:27 MikeOverbo

2:27

Dieter Bohn:

60 day free trial.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:27 Dieter Bohn

2:27

MikeOverbo:

(that's a guess)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:27 MikeOverbo

2:28

Dieter Bohn:

.mac automatically upgraded.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:28 Dieter Bohn

2:28

[Comment From RyanRyan: ]

no one will buy this. just like no one bought .mac

Monday June 9, 2008 2:28 Ryan

2:28

[Comment From BrianBrian: ]

that's too much, they need to lower to about 50

Monday June 9, 2008 2:28 Brian

2:28

Rene Ritchie:

Basically .Mac on steroids for the same price... Wonder if new Mac owners will still get the usual ~30% discount...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:28 Rene Ritchie

2:28

Dieter Bohn:

Steve back on. "near and dear to my heart" -- the iPhone. Talking about the anniversary coming up.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:28 Dieter Bohn

2:28

Rene Ritchie:

.Mac was worth $99 for me just for the sync and the Back-to-my-Mac which I use near-constantly.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:28 Rene Ritchie

2:29

Dieter Bohn:

"This is the phone that changes phones forever." huge applause.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:29 Dieter Bohn

2:29

MikeOverbo:

@iphonebrent: you can usually watch the stream on apple's web page after the event.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:29 MikeOverbo

2:29

[Comment From PaulPaul: ]

@ Dieter: I'd like to call and ask about the 60 day trial and $99 service, but there's no phone. :)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:29 Paul

2:30

Dieter Bohn:

Talking about how iPhone users use MORE of the iPhone features than they do on other phones.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:30 Dieter Bohn

2:30

Dieter Bohn:

going after other platforms. :)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:30 Dieter Bohn

2:30

Dieter Bohn:

sold 6 million iPhones until they 'ran out' :D

Monday June 9, 2008 2:30 Dieter Bohn

2:30

Rene Ritchie:

Google search and map usage on iPhone is reportedly off the charts...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:30 Rene Ritchie

2:30

MikeOverbo:

90% customer satisfaction (!)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:30 MikeOverbo

2:31

Dieter Bohn:

Challenges they need to beat. 3G network. Huge applause. Enterprise. 3rd party apps. 4th: sell in more countries.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:31 Dieter Bohn

2:31

Dieter Bohn:

iphone risk map coming up? ;)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:31 Dieter Bohn

2:31

Rene Ritchie:

98% browse. 94% email.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:31 Rene Ritchie

2:31

Dieter Bohn:

congrats Vincent on having your picture up!!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:31 Dieter Bohn

2:31

Rene Ritchie:

If so, am I allowed to send a DMCA demand? ;)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:31 Rene Ritchie

2:31

Dieter Bohn:

need to make the iPhone more affordable....

Monday June 9, 2008 2:31 Dieter Bohn

2:32

Dieter Bohn:

Today we're introducting the iPhone ROAR CHEER WOOO!!!! (yeah didn't catch that)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:32 Dieter Bohn

2:32

Dieter Bohn:

iPhone 3G
I win!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:32 Dieter Bohn

2:32

Dieter Bohn:

thinner at edges, plastic back, rumors were true. Rene got it right exactly. Flush headphone jack.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:32 Dieter Bohn

2:33

Rene Ritchie:

OMGZ1! New iPhonz! FTW11!!!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:33 Rene Ritchie

2:33

MikeOverbo:

#1 reason people don't buy an iphone: price (56%)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:33 MikeOverbo

2:33

[Comment From sietedos72sietedos72: ]

WOOOOOO HOOOOOO!!! :-)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:33 sietedos72

2:33

[Comment From ZachZach: ]

WOO HOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:33 Zach

2:33

[Comment From DanDan: ]

WOOOT!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:33 Dan

2:33

[Comment From StarrWulfeStarrWulfe: ]

YES!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:33 StarrWulfe

2:33

[Comment From RyanRyan: ]

i was wrong.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:33 Ryan

2:33

[Comment From andyt3chandyt3ch: ]

yyeeiiaaq

Monday June 9, 2008 2:33 andyt3ch

2:33

[Comment From jkjk: ]

yesss!!!!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:33 jk

2:33

[Comment From MC1171611MC1171611: ]

Bout friggin' TIME!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:33 MC1171611

2:34

Dieter Bohn:

Same browser over Edge and over 3G.... 21 seconds on 3g. .........

Monday June 9, 2008 2:34 Dieter Bohn

2:34

MikeOverbo:

looks like the very flat back is gone, meaning it will be easier to ipck up. looks a bit thicker to me too.

also, flush headphone jack.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:34 MikeOverbo

2:34

Dieter Bohn:

(images up here: live.gizmodo.com )

Monday June 9, 2008 2:34 Dieter Bohn

2:35

Dieter Bohn:

.......

Monday June 9, 2008 2:35 Dieter Bohn

2:35

Rene Ritchie:

8GB?!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:35 Rene Ritchie

2:35

Dieter Bohn:

59 seconds on edge.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:35 Dieter Bohn

2:35

Dieter Bohn:

3G 2.8 times faster.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:35 Dieter Bohn

2:35

Dieter Bohn:

3G speeds approach wifi speeds...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:35 Dieter Bohn

2:36

Dieter Bohn:

36% faster than the Nokia n95 and Treo 750.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:36 Dieter Bohn

2:36

[Comment From carslycarsly: ]

8GB to keep prices down

Monday June 9, 2008 2:36 carsly

2:36

[Comment From jj: ]

it better be cheap, i don't see the vast majority of consumers shelling out big bucks for another phone, when "6 million" have shelled out in just the past year.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:36 j

2:36

[Comment From R'CopehR'Copeh: ]

No front facing camera either. Interesting.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:36 R'Copeh

2:36

Rene Ritchie:

(Please let Rogers get reasonable data rates. Please let Rogers get reasonable data rates Please let Rogers get reasonable data rates)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:36 Rene Ritchie

2:37

MikeOverbo:

i'm going to guess that they'll have a high-end version available with more storage.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:37 MikeOverbo

2:37

Dieter Bohn:

What about battery life? 300 hours on the original iPhone. 2G talk time from 8 hours to 10 hours on iPhone 3G... Other phones have 3G talk time in 3 to 3.5 hour range. iPhone 3G has 5 hours.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:37 Dieter Bohn

2:38

Dieter Bohn:

5-6 hours of 3G browsing. Definitely a step down from the previous iPhone but still damn decent. 24 hours of Audio...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:38 Dieter Bohn

2:38

Dieter Bohn:

GPS!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:38 Dieter Bohn

2:38

Rene Ritchie:

Is 5hrs enough? And can you default to 2.5G to save battery?

Monday June 9, 2008 2:38 Rene Ritchie

2:38

Dieter Bohn:

Get location from WiFi and from GPS.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:38 Dieter Bohn

2:39

MikeOverbo:

5 hrs is typical of most high-end smartphones... lots of them only get 3-4, which is why extendo batteries are so popular.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:39 MikeOverbo

2:39

Dieter Bohn:

5 hours is actually better than most, yes. But without a replaceable battery, it's a *little* nerve wracking.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:39 Dieter Bohn

2:39

Rene Ritchie:

Anyone wanna bet Jony Ive didn'ty include no changeable battery on this baby?

Monday June 9, 2008 2:39 Rene Ritchie

2:39

Dieter Bohn:

Built-in GPS, Faster Data. Enterprise.. What about the other challenges?

Monday June 9, 2008 2:39 Dieter Bohn

2:40

MikeOverbo:

price is the one i'm waiting for :)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:40 MikeOverbo

2:40

[Comment From DanDan: ]

It is going to be cheap, look that was oneof his main points

Monday June 9, 2008 2:40 Dan

2:40

[Comment From Bruce KambyBruce Kamby: ]

Stock just went up to 182

Monday June 9, 2008 2:40 Bruce Kamby

2:40

[Comment From DavidDavid: ]

come on better quality camera....

Monday June 9, 2008 2:40 David

2:40

[Comment From chrischris: ]

What about copy/paste? is there in there yet?

Monday June 9, 2008 2:40 chris

2:40

[Comment From johnjohn: ]

CANADA????

Monday June 9, 2008 2:40 john

2:40

Rene Ritchie:

Canadian release date is what I'm waiting for...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:40 Rene Ritchie

2:40

Dieter Bohn:

Check off 3rd party apps. More countries.. Now it's in 6 countires...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:40 Dieter Bohn

2:41

Dieter Bohn:

Goal of 12 countries, stretch goal of 25 countries. here comes the boom..

Monday June 9, 2008 2:41 Dieter Bohn

2:41

Dieter Bohn:

Playing "its a small world after all" to occasional cheers as people's countries come up...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:41 Dieter Bohn

2:42

Rene Ritchie:

Steve loves him his Disney!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:42 Rene Ritchie

2:43

MikeOverbo:

mexico and canada are on the extendo map, as well as much of south america

Monday June 9, 2008 2:43 MikeOverbo

2:43

Dieter Bohn:

70 countries

Monday June 9, 2008 2:43 Dieter Bohn

2:43

MikeOverbo:

kadooj!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:43 MikeOverbo

2:44

Rene Ritchie:

China?!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:44 Rene Ritchie

2:44

Dieter Bohn:

China.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:44 Dieter Bohn

2:44

Dieter Bohn:

Last goal: price!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:44 Dieter Bohn

2:44

Rene Ritchie:

Zhi Shi Fei Chang Hao!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:44 Rene Ritchie

2:44

Dieter Bohn:

$599, now $399 for an 8gig.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:44 Dieter Bohn

2:44

MikeOverbo:

cache.gizmodo.com/assets/wwdc08/2008wwdclive193.jpg

Monday June 9, 2008 2:44 MikeOverbo

2:45

Dieter Bohn:

iPhone 3Gboom wow yell can't hear!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:45 Dieter Bohn

2:45

Dieter Bohn:

$199! for 8gig. 299 for 16 gig

Monday June 9, 2008 2:45 Dieter Bohn

2:45

Casey Chan:

199!!!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:45 Casey Chan

2:45

Rene Ritchie:

Boom!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:45 Rene Ritchie

2:45

Dieter Bohn:

wil come in white too

Monday June 9, 2008 2:45 Dieter Bohn

2:45

MikeOverbo:

wow

Monday June 9, 2008 2:45 MikeOverbo

2:45

Dieter Bohn:

WOWZERS

Monday June 9, 2008 2:45 Dieter Bohn

2:46

[Comment From BorjaBorja: ]

wooooooooooooow!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:46 Borja

2:46

[Comment From JamesJames: ]

impressive

Monday June 9, 2008 2:46 James

2:46

[Comment From cheesecheese: ]

AWESOME!!!!!!!!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:46 cheese

2:46

[Comment From Ambrose, with an 'R'Ambrose, with an 'R': ]

holy crap

Monday June 9, 2008 2:46 Ambrose, with an 'R'

2:46

Casey Chan:

who needs carrier subsidies!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:46 Casey Chan

2:46

Dieter Bohn:

July 1st?

Monday June 9, 2008 2:46 Dieter Bohn

2:46

Rene Ritchie:

Wonder how many competing execs just went into cadiac arrest...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:46 Rene Ritchie

2:46

MikeOverbo:

they're driving the price down of smartphones, that's for sure.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:46 MikeOverbo

2:46

Dieter Bohn:

Showing an ad now.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:46 Dieter Bohn

2:47

MikeOverbo:

seems that white might be available only in 16gb version?

Monday June 9, 2008 2:47 MikeOverbo

2:47

Dieter Bohn:

July 11th Launch Date

Monday June 9, 2008 2:47 Dieter Bohn

2:47

Rene Ritchie:

@Crackberry Kevin throwing some cut and paste rain on the 3G parade...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:47 Rene Ritchie

2:47

[Comment From MC1171611MC1171611: ]

$184 now!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:47 MC1171611

2:47

[Comment From malcontentmalcontent: ]

So much for Sprint/Samsung

Monday June 9, 2008 2:47 malcontent

2:47

Rene Ritchie:

July 11 gives them a nearly guaranteed 2 months of free hype...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:47 Rene Ritchie

2:47

Dieter Bohn:

(want one more thing)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:47 Dieter Bohn

2:48

MikeOverbo:

@damien: there is no subsidy for the iphone.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:48 MikeOverbo

2:48

Rene Ritchie:

Jobs said a "maximum of $199", doesn't that leave the door open for less?

Monday June 9, 2008 2:48 Rene Ritchie

2:48

Rene Ritchie:

(engadget says Jobs said that, for clarity)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:48 Rene Ritchie

2:50

Rene Ritchie:

LOL@Steve: first iPhone to beat the iPhone

Monday June 9, 2008 2:50 Rene Ritchie

2:50

MikeOverbo:

iphone teams getting applause...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:50 MikeOverbo

2:50

Rene Ritchie:

Deservedly so. Probably haven't seen their families since March...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:50 Rene Ritchie

2:51

Rene Ritchie:

iPhone 3G was the "one more thing" ?!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:51 Rene Ritchie

2:51

[Comment From TomTom: ]

We have to wait another 4 weeks?

Monday June 9, 2008 2:51 Tom

2:51

[Comment From MC1171611MC1171611: ]

Aww...no unlocked iPhone :(

Monday June 9, 2008 2:51 MC1171611

2:51

[Comment From BorjaBorja: ]

no improved camera mp?

Monday June 9, 2008 2:51 Borja

2:51

MikeOverbo:

it does leave the door open for less, but you won't see a subsidy anywhere there's an apple store.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:51 MikeOverbo

2:52

MikeOverbo:

looks like that's it.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:52 MikeOverbo

2:52

Dieter Bohn:

That's a wrap, everybody!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:52 Dieter Bohn

2:52

Rene Ritchie:

@Mike I'm guessing those scrappy Euro-carriers will subsidize...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:52 Rene Ritchie

2:52

[Comment From MC1171611MC1171611: ]

Did he even SAY "One More Thing"?

Monday June 9, 2008 2:52 MC1171611

2:52

Dieter Bohn:

Nope!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:52 Dieter Bohn

2:52

Rene Ritchie:

Okay, what will iPhone 4G be like?

Monday June 9, 2008 2:52 Rene Ritchie

2:52

Dieter Bohn:

lol!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:52 Dieter Bohn

2:53

[Comment From VyktoryuhVyktoryuh: ]

4 more weeks!?!?!?!?!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:53 Vyktoryuh

2:53

MikeOverbo:

heh, when will iphone 2.0 be released?

Monday June 9, 2008 2:53 MikeOverbo

2:53

[Comment From R'CopehR'Copeh: ]

Shame there's no mention of GPS working with an external Bluetooth. Shags us V1 users :-(

Monday June 9, 2008 2:53 R'Copeh

2:53

[Comment From FamousJerryFamousJerry: ]

im holding out till iphone 6g

Monday June 9, 2008 2:53 FamousJerry

2:53

[Comment From KurtKurt: ]

Thx Dieter & gang for the coverage!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:53 Kurt

2:53

[Comment From DanDan: ]

THE STORE IS UP!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:53 Dan

2:53

[Comment From chrischris: ]

the 4g better have cut and paste

Monday June 9, 2008 2:53 chris

2:53

Rene Ritchie:

I'm guessing more stuff will filter out between now and launch day.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:53 Rene Ritchie

2:53	Was it good for you? Yes ( 32% ) YES! ( 48% ) No. ( 4% ) NO, needed MORE. ( 16% ) Monday June 9, 2008 2:53

2:54

[Comment From CoachFreakCoachFreak: ]

so on our "did not get" list Flash, iChat, MMS, copy/paste, better camera, better battery life/ but we DID get a cheaper pricetag, 3G, GPS, mobleme sync

Monday June 9, 2008 2:54 CoachFreak

2:54

[Comment From R'CopehR'Copeh: ]

Second that from Kurt. Thanks for the coverage.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:54 R'Copeh

2:54

[Comment From MikeMike: ]

Go Blackberry

Monday June 9, 2008 2:54 Mike

2:54

Rene Ritchie:

BT stack news, hopefully...

Monday June 9, 2008 2:54 Rene Ritchie

2:54

[Comment From Darren LuDarren Lu: ]

store back up with iphone 3G!!!1

Monday June 9, 2008 2:54 Darren Lu

2:54

MikeOverbo:

@eric: I'm giving my iphone 1.0 to my wife so she can ditch her treo 680

Monday June 9, 2008 2:54 MikeOverbo

2:54

[Comment From MattMatt: ]

Store says it is available in white

Monday June 9, 2008 2:54 Matt

2:54

Rene Ritchie:

@Mike, where do you want Blackberry to go? That sounds awfully mean? ;)

Monday June 9, 2008 2:54 Rene Ritchie

2:54

[Comment From FamousJerryFamousJerry: ]

the store is up and has listings of all the phone deatils and .me

Monday June 9, 2008 2:54 FamousJerry

2:54

[Comment From frankfrank: ]

whats the point of having shut down the stores, and built everything up only to release it until july

Monday June 9, 2008 2:54 frank

2:55

[Comment From MattMatt: ]

Store says it is available in white

Monday June 9, 2008 2:55 Matt

2:55

Rene Ritchie:

iPhone 3G up on Apple Store Canada!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:55 Rene Ritchie

2:55

MikeOverbo:

lots of comments indicating that white is available for every version

Monday June 9, 2008 2:55 MikeOverbo

2:55

[Comment From sietedos72sietedos72: ]

mobileme is on the store page too

Monday June 9, 2008 2:55 sietedos72

2:55

Rene Ritchie:

No "black" Apple tax like for MacBook!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:55 Rene Ritchie

2:55

[Comment From Matt WMatt W: ]

well, i'm out. thanks for the coverage

Monday June 9, 2008 2:55 Matt W

2:55

[Comment From R'CopehR'Copeh: ]

LOL! There's all of a sudden a Brother Printer Driver update in Software Update. What the hell? Where did that come from!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:55 R'Copeh

2:55

[Comment From Matt MMatt M: ]

No camera improvement, no front facing camera, plus a cheaper feel (most likely) I think I will hold off and keep my ver 1.0.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:55 Matt M

2:55

MikeOverbo:

mobileme indicates that it's live in july.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:55 MikeOverbo

2:56

MikeOverbo:

gotta go, thx everyone.

Monday June 9, 2008 2:56 MikeOverbo

2:56

Dieter Bohn:

We're outie 5000!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:56 Dieter Bohn

2:56

[Comment From RaphaelRaphael: ]

Thanks for the coverage!

Monday June 9, 2008 2:56 Raphael

2:56

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