Live chat on Proposal 6
 
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[Comment From LewisLewis: ] 
The event is now live, like bacon on a skillet.
Friday October 12, 2012 11:52 Lewis
11:53
[Comment From Andy JohnstonAndy Johnston: ] 
Good morning everyone. Looking forward to a lively chat.
Friday October 12, 2012 11:53 Andy Johnston
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[Comment From Meegan Holland | MLive.coMeegan Holland | MLive.co: ] 
Hi everybody. I'm statewide news editor for MLive.com and will be moderating today's live chat with Jen Eyer, statewide community engagement specialist.
Friday October 12, 2012 11:53 Meegan Holland | MLive.co
11:53
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
Good Afternoon (almost) from U of M.
Friday October 12, 2012 11:53 Guest
11:54
Jen Eyer | MLive.com: 
Good morning, everyone. We'll get started here in just a few minutes.
Friday October 12, 2012 11:54 Jen Eyer | MLive.com
11:55
Meegan Holland|MLive.com: 
Welcome Guest from U of M. Would you mind typing in a handle or name so we can distinguish you from other Guests?
Friday October 12, 2012 11:55 Meegan Holland|MLive.com
11:55
Jen Eyer | MLive.com: 
This is a moderated live chat, which means questions and comments are held for approval. We will publish comments immediately as long as they are civil and on-topic, but we will hold and pace the questions throughout the chat.
Friday October 12, 2012 11:55 Jen Eyer | MLive.com
11:56
[Comment From YonasYonas: ] 
sorry about that
Friday October 12, 2012 11:56 Yonas
11:56
Jen Eyer | MLive.com: 
Welcome (back?), Yonas!
Friday October 12, 2012 11:56 Jen Eyer | MLive.com
11:56
Meegan Holland|MLive.com: 
Joining us today are Andy Johnston, vice president of government affairs for the Grand Rapids Area Chamber of Commerce, and state Rep. Dave Agema, R-Grandville.
Friday October 12, 2012 11:56 Meegan Holland|MLive.com
11:57
[Comment From JosieJosie: ] 
Hello everyone.
Friday October 12, 2012 11:57 Josie
11:57
Meegan Holland|MLive.com: 
Hi Josie! Welcome to the chat!
Friday October 12, 2012 11:57 Meegan Holland|MLive.com
11:57
[Comment From LewisLewis: ] 
Is Rep. Agema on any committees?
Friday October 12, 2012 11:57 Lewis
11:58
Meegan Holland|MLive.com: 
We're waiting for Rep. Agema to get on the chat. We still technically have 2 minutes.
Friday October 12, 2012 11:58 Meegan Holland|MLive.com
11:59
Meegan Holland|MLive.com: 
And we're talking to Rep. Agema now ... his state-issued computer must be a little slow. :)
Friday October 12, 2012 11:59 Meegan Holland|MLive.com
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Andy Johnston | GRACC: 
Welcome Representative Agema.
Friday October 12, 2012 12:00 Andy Johnston | GRACC
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[Comment From Rep AgemaRep Agema: ] 
Hello everyone
Friday October 12, 2012 12:00 Rep Agema
12:01
Meegan Holland|MLive.com: 
Glad to have you on the chat, Rep. Agema and Andy Johnston! Rep. Agema wrote an op ed piece in favor of Proposal 6, which challenges the need for a second Detroit Windsor Bridge.
Friday October 12, 2012 12:01 Meegan Holland|MLive.com
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Meegan Holland|MLive.com: 
Lt. Gov. Brian Calley wrote the other op ed saying Michigan needs a second bridge. Andy Johnston of the GR Chamber will be the one to argue for that side.
Friday October 12, 2012 12:01 Meegan Holland|MLive.com
12:02
[Comment From YonasYonas: ] 
What is the federal governments involvement in this "international" bridge proposal? Does it have to be approved by the state department?
Friday October 12, 2012 12:02 Yonas
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Andy Johnston | GRACC: 
The US State Department will issue a Presidential Permit for the project, as it does for all for all international bridges.
Friday October 12, 2012 12:02 Andy Johnston | GRACC
12:02
Rep Agema: 
The more Michigan voters learn about the NITC proposal, the more they realize there are a lot of unanswered questions...A Yes vote give people the opportunity to decide - with oversight of the taxpayers
Friday October 12, 2012 12:02 Rep Agema
12:03
[Comment From Steve HendelSteve Hendel: ] 
In the event, unlikely or otherwise, that bridge tolls are insufficient to cover the repayment of Canada's debt, who will make up the difference?
Friday October 12, 2012 12:03 Steve Hendel
12:04
Rep Agema: 
Andy - how can they issue a presidential permit if the legislature restricted the parties (mdot & MSF) from signing aggreement??? right now, the Gov is acting unconstitutionally!
Friday October 12, 2012 12:04 Rep Agema
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[Comment From LewisLewis: ] 
They just issue the permit no matter what? Or do they have to outline to costs, show its needed, etc?
Friday October 12, 2012 12:04 Lewis
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Andy Johnston | GRACC: 
There is no debt to Canada. Michigan has no obligation or debt of any kind. If there are insufficient tolls, Michigan has no risk. The sole risk is with Canada and the private company that will build and provide financing for the bridge.
Friday October 12, 2012 12:04 Andy Johnston | GRACC
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Andy Johnston | GRACC: 
The proposed bridge wouldn’t cost Michigan taxpayers a nickel. Indeed, it would be a boon to the Michigan economy. You can read the agreement for yourself and find other information at michigan.gov/buildthisbridge
Friday October 12, 2012 12:05 Andy Johnston | GRACC
12:05
Rep Agema: 
Who makes up the difference? it is the taxpayer - just like lost over runs at every other bridge!
Friday October 12, 2012 12:05 Rep Agema
12:05
[Comment From AudreyAudrey: ] 
The governor says Canada is paying for all of this, even loaning Michigan $550M. I guess my question is, what are they getting in return? Why are they being so generous?
Friday October 12, 2012 12:05 Audrey
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Andy Johnston | GRACC: 
As the agreement states, the project will be done “with funding approved by Canada, but with no funding by the Michigan Parties. The Michigan Parties are not obligated to pay any of the costs of the new International Crossing.”
Friday October 12, 2012 12:05 Andy Johnston | GRACC
12:05
[Comment From YonasYonas: ] 
From what I know, Canada wants another bridge to increase traffic through Detroit and to Chicago where it conducts a lot of trade, right?
Friday October 12, 2012 12:05 Yonas
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Rep Agema: 
@Andy - That's what Gov Soapy Williams said about Mackinac Br - it cost us $245 Million so far!
Friday October 12, 2012 12:06 Rep Agema
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Andy Johnston | GRACC: 
Canada is being so generous, becauce this a critical project for both Canada and the US. We are the best two trading partners in the world.
Friday October 12, 2012 12:06 Andy Johnston | GRACC
12:06
[Comment From LewisLewis: ] 
Isn't that website you just sent, paid for by taxpayers?
Friday October 12, 2012 12:06 Lewis
12:07
Rep Agema: 
Why does Canada Want? Execellent question - They are the prime beneficiaries and we are the debters ($550 Mil in debt to canada...compounding daily)
Friday October 12, 2012 12:07 Rep Agema
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Andy Johnston | GRACC: 
When the International Bridge was built at the Soo. It was Michigan that paid for everything not Canada.
Friday October 12, 2012 12:07 Andy Johnston | GRACC
12:07
[Comment From Josh HJosh H: ] 
If the New International Trade Crossing is such a bad idea, why does Moroun want to build a second span to his own Ambassador Bridge? How many times will Moroun flip-flop his analysis?
Friday October 12, 2012 12:07 Josh H
12:07
[Comment From JohnJohn: ] 
While lobbying for his prized second span, Moroun argued that there was an overflow of traffic that justified the expansion—now Moroun argues that the Ambassador Bridge has more than enough capacity to handle the traffic. Which is correct? (Even O’Keefe & Associates can’t explain this).
Friday October 12, 2012 12:07 John
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Andy Johnston | GRACC: 
In terms of twinning the Ambassador Bridge...to rely on the promises of a twining span that may never be approved, provides no redundancy, uses the same plazas and same side streets we use today, without a freeway-to-freeway connection would be a huge mistake that actually make trade traffic worse.
Friday October 12, 2012 12:08 Andy Johnston | GRACC
12:08
Rep Agema: 
Why does Amb Br want to build? It is for updating and maintenance - a third lane for pre cleared vehicles. it has nothing to do with traffic capacity and it is pursuant to the agreement with the state, approved by Canada to twin that bridge?
Friday October 12, 2012 12:08 Rep Agema
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[Comment From JosieJosie: ] 
Andy - "Michigan has no obligation or debt of any kind" . Why does that seem so unlikely? Maybe because the fact that Canada's position keeps changing to whatever will get the bridge built.
Friday October 12, 2012 12:08 Josie
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Meegan Holland|MLive.com: 
We should note, by the way, that the Detroit Windsor traffic can't accommodate truck traffic.
Friday October 12, 2012 12:08 Meegan Holland|MLive.com
12:08
[Comment From Concerned CitizenConcerned Citizen: ] 
Rep. Agema -- Have you recieved campaign contributions from the Moruns?
Friday October 12, 2012 12:08 Concerned Citizen
12:09
Rep Agema: 
@ Megan- traffic isn't a problem - its down 40 percent from 2000...
Friday October 12, 2012 12:09 Rep Agema
12:09
[Comment From LewisLewis: ] 
If it is "free" money, why is it a "loan"? What is the interest rate?
Friday October 12, 2012 12:09 Lewis
12:10
Andy Johnston | GRACC: 
Josie - I think because it is a great deal for Michigan. It is the reverse situation from the Int'l Bridge in the Soo.
Friday October 12, 2012 12:10 Andy Johnston | GRACC
12:10
Rep Agema: 
Campaign contribution? yes, fully disclosed and fully transparant. within the limits like the hundreds of supporters I have. Look it up on line. In fact, it was lower than the Chambers's contributions to me
Friday October 12, 2012 12:10 Rep Agema
12:11
Andy Johnston | GRACC: 
Lewis - There is no loan or interest rate. Canada will hire a private co. to build the bridge. All at Canada's risk.
Friday October 12, 2012 12:11 Andy Johnston | GRACC
12:12
Rep Agema: 
@ andy & Lewis - there is a loan -$550 Million that has to be paid back!!! Canada can walk away at any time (p. 36 of proposed agreement)
Friday October 12, 2012 12:12 Rep Agema
12:12
Meegan Holland|MLive.com: 
Rep. Agema estimates that over 6 years, $500 from Matty Moroun and $500 from his son. "It's not like they're buying my vote."
Friday October 12, 2012 12:12 Meegan Holland|MLive.com
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