Live NCAA Tournament Fan Q&A: Syracuse vs. UNC Asheville
Thursday March 15, 2012
5:23
Hey, everyone. We'll get this started after the game ends. Join the discussion, and ask Post-Standard reporter Donnie Webb anything about the game or the Orange, or just contribute your comments to the discussion. Should be interesting after this game.

We'll open up the floor to questions and comments when the game ends.
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:23 
5:45
It's OK to breathe. In. Out. In. Out. Big cleansing breath. Hold it. Exhale.
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:45 
5:46
[Comment From slimslim: ] 
We're lucky to win this one. Why can't Syracuse shoot any more? Gawd, this team has gotten awful the last few games....
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:46 slim
5:46
I suppose y'all are in shock at the moment for how bad this team played for long, long stretches.
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:46 
5:47
[Comment From DCs JockDCs Jock: ] 
The entire team looked flat and lifeless; are they just going through the motions w/o Fab and do they have a shot against a decent K State team?
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:47 DCs Jock
5:47
[Comment From slimslim: ] 
UNC-A played well, tho
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:47 slim
5:47
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
nver will get to Sweet 16 playing like that!!
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:47 Guest
5:47
Syracuse is pushed, but moves on with a 72-65 win against UNC Asheville.

Obvious first question to everyone ... how do you feel about the next game against Kansas State?
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:47 
5:47
[Comment From RyanRyan: ] 
had to watch a score tracker on the computer. Many people were complaining that the refs were hurting UNC Ashville. Is this true, or just sour grapes from Ashville fans and the pro-Cinderella crowd?
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:47 Ryan
5:47
Hang on a second - I think Syracuse players are still fanned out around the arc, waiting to chuck up another 3 -pointer. Never mind the height advantage. Keep on chucking.
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:47 
5:47
[Comment From PetePete: ] 
I couldn't watch the game. Why is "Lane Violation" trending on twitter?
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:47 Pete
5:48
[Comment From JohnJohn: ] 
without those bad calls the Cuse would have lost
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:48 John
5:49
[Comment From teneskateneska: ] 
Donnie, you hit the nail on the head> i thought i was watching high school BB
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:49 teneska
5:49
Ryan, two critical calls late went against Ashville. One on a lane violation in which Scoop missed a free throw. Appeared to me on the replay that Ashville player on the blocks was in early, but ref pointed to the guy closest to Scoop, who made the two FTs (unbelievably) after that. Triche was fouled on inbounds play. Ball went off his hands. Refs didn't call a foul or give ball to Ashville.
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:49 
5:49
[Comment From slimslim: ] 
Ryan, typical refs at the ned of a Syracuse game, bad callls, but it didn't hurt Ashville
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:49 slim
5:49
[Comment From jACK cAHILLjACK cAHILL: ] 
WHY WAS THE CROUD BOOING??? WAS IT SYRACUSE THEY WERE BOOING????
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:49 jACK cAHILL
5:50
I think they were booing the officials.
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:50 
5:50
Jack ... crowd was booing the refs; they wanted to see an upset and they thought some late calls went against UNC-A
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:50 
5:50
[Comment From RyanRyan: ] 
crowds at NCAA tourneys always are pro-cinderella
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:50 Ryan
5:50
[Comment From slimslim: ] 
Donnie, what did you like about this game?
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:50 slim
5:50
Everyone roots for an underdog. And the underdog took a No. 1 seed down to the wire. You throw in those two calls that went against Ashville and the crowd let the stripes have it.
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:50 
5:51
[Comment From NeilNeil: ] 
Bad calls? There WAS a lane violation, and on the Triche out of bounds play, he WAS fouled.
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:51 Neil
5:51
[Comment From jaCKjaCK: ] 
tHANK YOU!
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:51 jaCK
5:51
Slim, the only thing worth liking was the outcome. I can't believe Syracuse's basketball IQ in the game. Atrocious. Unbelievable, really.
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:51 
5:51
[Comment From jjjj: ] 
sure the refs should have called the foul on the inbounds play so why the complaining, was kind of a wash right
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:51 jj
5:52
[Comment From RyanRyan: ] 
Thanks. Sounds like they were good calls. The ref just pointed to the wrong guy on one, and didn't call a foul on Ashville on the other but gave SU the ball back?
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:52 Ryan
5:52
On the play with Triche, refs have either got to call a foul on Asheville or give Asheville the ball because it went off Triche's hands. They did neither.
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:52 
5:53
I'll have stats from the game in just a second ...
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:53 
5:53
[Comment From JohnJohn: ] 
There was no lane violation. But the obvious goal tend and the ball of Triche were the bad calls
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:53 John
5:53
[Comment From slimslim: ] 
Donnie, ....I agree! We won't gget past the sweet sixteen this year the way they're playing right now
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:53 slim
5:53
[Comment From jjjj: ] 
you'd think su could inbound the ball a little better than what they showed today
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:53 jj
5:54
John, I disagree. I think there was a lane violation, but ref pointed to the wrong guy. I don't think it was an obvious call; iffy call. I only saw it because of the replay.
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:54 
5:54
[Comment From RyanRyan: ] 
but calling a foul on Ashville gives SU a 1 and 1. So better to just give Cuse the ball from Ashville standpoint?
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:54 Ryan
5:54
[Comment From jjjj: ] 
with the unca short bench shouldn't su have tried to press a few times
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:54 jj
5:55
[Comment From teneskateneska: ] 
orange looked like a deer in the headlights
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:55 teneska
5:55
[Comment From RyanRyan: ] 
how does SU beat K-State after playing like this today. And why were they so unprepared? I was expecting a motovated team after everyone was saying they wouldn't do well w/o Melo
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:55 Ryan
5:55
Southerland led SU with 15 points off the bench. Waiters and Joseph had 12 points each, Triche had 11. Triche had 9.

J.P. Primm led UNC-A with 18 points, Jaron Lane had 16
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:55 
5:56
[Comment From slimslim: ] 
BTW, Y'all,...the way this season has progressed for our Orange, this wouyld make for a great "Hollywood Movie",..no?
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:56 slim
5:56
[Comment From Chocolate PizzaChocolate Pizza: ] 
I agree
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:56 Chocolate Pizza
5:56
[Comment From leoleo: ] 
donnie, any chance any local reporters will publically critisize JB for his stubborn mentality with the zone and failure to adjust to the opponent i.e. play man or press?
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:56 leo
5:56
The whole inbounds situation was a circus. It looked like Orange never practiced it, didn't it? Even when Syracuse did get it in bounds, had to burn timeouts and didn't know where to go with it. Just an embarrassing effort by the guards. Dion looked like he was in la-la land the entire second half. When he gets on the floor for a loose ball, let me know.
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:56 
5:57
[Comment From TexTex: ] 
Is it sacrilege to really begin to wonder what the hell JB is teaching at practice? So many times today, this team looked completely clueless.
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:57 Tex
5:58
Joseph and Southerland had 8 rebounds each, Christmas 7. SU outrebounded UNCA 33-31.

Joseph had 3 blocks, Christmas 2

Scoop had 7 assists and 3 turnovers
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:58 
5:58
[Comment From slimslim: ] 
Tex, they didn't look clueless, they looked like they didn't care, to me anyways..
Thursday March 15, 2012 5:58 slim
6:00
[Comment From jjjj: ] 
hard to believe with the size advantage we only out rebounded them by 2. you'd think with melo out that would have been a priority
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:00 jj
6:00
[Comment From Dan EDan E: ] 
At the end of the first half wasn't Triche followed in the act of shooting (prior to the clock violation), thus he should have been awarded two shots?
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:00 Dan E
6:00
[Comment From slimslim: ] 
And we barely beat 'em. So much for the rebounding theory....
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:00 slim
6:00
Leo - The zone wasn't Syracuse's problem today (UNCAshville shot 43 percent); the problem stems from dumb decisions on the offensive end with shot selection by SU; not a lot of effort rebounding at times; no concept of what to do inbounding the ball against the press; failure to get on the floor for loose balls; incomprehensible Syracuse could play so dumb; no excuses, really
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:00 
6:01
[Comment From FredFred: ] 
Rules question: If the foul on Triche at the end of the half occurred before the shot clock expired, which it did if you watch the replay, wouldn't the clock and shot clock both be stopped at that moment, making it impossible for the shot clock to have expired?
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:01 Fred
6:01
[Comment From TexTex: ] 
I felt they rebounded better today, honestly. Just didn't hustle as much as UNCA.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:01 Tex
6:02
[Comment From coachcoach: ] 
Did Triche have 11 or 9?
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:02 coach
6:03
Trich had 9 points according to the box I'm looking at.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:03 
6:03
[Comment From slimslim: ] 
Donnie, ....yeah, that sounds about right. Nice summation of this game...(I know, it's not a word)
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:03 slim
6:03
You can't rebound when you're feet are glued to the floor; Scoop, Triche and Dion had 2 rebounds apiece (against a team that shot outside and produced long rebounds).; how Joseph ended up with eight rebounds is one of the great mysteries of life; Baye had one rebound; one; how can someone that tall not rebound?
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:03 
6:04
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
Cuse has got to step up. Come on guys. You can do it. I liked to see the freshman play as well. Where is your heart
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:04 Guest
6:05
Dan and Fred: It appeared the refs ruled that the shot clock expired before the foul. Replay showed that wasn't the case, but that's how it appeared.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:05 
6:05
James Sutherland saved the day, didn't he? He had 15 points and eight rebounds; he was 6-for-8 from the field, though he was seduced by the 3-point line just like everyone else throughout the game
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:05 
6:05
[Comment From TexTex: ] 
Look at the bright side: at least Scoop and Kris showed up for the second half. Sort of.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:05 Tex
6:06
[Comment From slimslim: ] 
Tex, like Wes Johnson use to do...sort of
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:06 slim
6:06
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
Now that they have this game out of the way maybe hopefully? they will settle down and play real ball. They CAN play without Melo.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:06 Guest
6:07
Tex: A Syracuse.com commenter posted this comment at the entry at the bottom during the first half:

"I knew Melo was off the team but when did Jardine and Joseph leave? I haven't seen them in a couple weeks."

I chuckled at that one ...
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:07 
6:07
[Comment From icewesticewest: ] 
Pretty lucky today with some fortuitous calls in our favor. Keita and X-mas were good enough. Their depth was the difference today. If not for Southerland, I think SU loses. Top of the zone was asleep in the 1st half.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:07 icewest
6:07
I don't know if I'd say they Scoop and Kris showed up or not, Tex; those guys had some awful moments during the game.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:07 
6:07
[Comment From TexTex: ] 
James was definitely player of the game. What a performance by him.. I just wish he were more consistent.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:07 Tex
6:07
[Comment From FITZBAHFITZBAH: ] 
Donnie- the lane violation was on the outside player- players outside the 3 point arc when the shot is taken MUST wait until the ball hits the rim- the NC-Ash player was 10 feet inside the arc when the ball hit. The same player did it again on the nexy shot and if Scoop had missed that one as well the ref was ready to call another violation. At the end of the half, Triche's shot should not have counted, but he was fouled before the expiration of the shot clock and should have received two shots as SU was in the double bonus for common fouls.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:07 FITZBAH
6:08
[Comment From TexTex: ] 
If they come out with that effort on Saturday, K-State will win by 20 points.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:08 Tex
6:08
[Comment From slimslim: ] 
Donnie, how far does this team go this year?
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:08 slim
6:09
[Comment From TexTex: ] 
Donnie: that's why I qualified it with the "sort of". Scoop's shot selection... ugh.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:09 Tex
6:09
[Comment From leoleo: ] 
donnie, doesnt the agressiveness, attitude and preparedness of the team come down the the coaching in the end?
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:09 leo
6:09
On the Triche play, I was talking about the one at the end of the game in front of the UNC-Asheville bench; it was an inbounds play; Triche was bumped while he was in the air; ball went out of bounds; no call on Asheville; refs gave the ball back to Syracuse.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:09 
6:09
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
Over the last six games or so the Cuse has fired up the 3 ball. When they drive to the basket they get results in a foul or points at the line. I dont understand all the 3 point shooting especailly when they are off. Where is scoop and Joseph. Looks like CJ crapped the bed too?
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:09 Guest
6:10
[Comment From FITZBAHFITZBAH: ] 
regardless- the old adage survive and advance applies here- they must play must better in the next game or the season ends. We need to get CJ back playing the way he was, and I think we'll be fine.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:10 FITZBAH
6:11
[Comment From leoleo: ] 
refs were bad at end in favor of cuse but they also had some bad calls first half in favor of UNC Ash
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:11 leo
6:11
Don't know what coaches gave players on the scouting report; could have gone in one ear and out the other; its just unbelievable team was sucked into UNC-Asheville trap by launching all those unnecessary 3-pointers; really? Did they not notice the height advantage? Why did it take Kris Joseph so long to figure out he needed to drive to the rim?
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:11 
6:12
[Comment From VinceVince: ] 
How 'bout some Kudos for Southerland's 2nd half play...he and Scoop really turned the tide in this one...Joseph showed his toughness with an old fashion 3-point play in 2nd half...
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:12 Vince
6:12
[Comment From slimslim: ] 
How's everyone's bracket, thus far? Mine is doing nicely...so far, anyways...
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:12 slim
6:12
Syracuse will:
Be beaten by Kansas State
 ( 39% )
Be beaten in the round of 16
 ( 22% )
Be beaten in the round of 8
 ( 9% )
Be beaten in the semifinals
 ( 9% )
Be beaten in the title game
 ( 4% )
Win the national championship
 ( 17% )

Thursday March 15, 2012 6:12 
6:13
Put up a quick poll, everyone ... just wondering, after seeing this game, how far you think SU is going to go.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:13 
6:13
[Comment From TexTex: ] 
The horrible officiating was pretty even in both directions, Leo. People are going to scandalize the ending, though, because of the 5 seconds? and the Triche play.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:13 Tex
6:13
[Comment From FITZBAHFITZBAH: ] 
You are very right about the shaky inbound situation- On that sideline play, as well as "forceouts" along the sidelines, the ref's often award the ball to the offensive player rather than call a foul- but clearly a doubly botched call by the ref.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:13 FITZBAH
6:14
C.J. Fair has 3 points, 3 rebounds and goes 1-for-7 from the field; something more than a headband issue is going on there; without Fab, the Orange has got to get production out of Fair
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:14 
6:14
[Comment From dean brightdean bright: ] 
at the end of the 1st. half when Brandon got fouled .I think the shot is 1 and should haved stoped on whistle
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:14 dean bright
6:15
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
Stop shooting the 3 ball and Drive to the rim.....PLEASE ! It's not that hard to figure out. Really!
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:15 Guest
6:15
[Comment From slimslim: ] 
Yes, not only C.J., but Waiters, too
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:15 slim
6:15
[Comment From leoleo: ] 
let CJ come of the bench that was his comfort zone. I remember KJ went through same thing. Start Southerland
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:15 leo
6:16
that was a weird call with Triche because the shot clock had expired before he got the ball away, but he was fouled prior to the shot clock ending. Of course, Joseph launched an open-look AIRBALL. How does that happen?
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:16 
6:16
[Comment From TexTex: ] 
Here's hoping that JB stresses the importance of *not* shooting 23 three pointers in this next game.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:16 Tex
6:16
Is everyone stunned that SU chucked up as many 3-pointers as it did? 5-of-23 from 3-point range.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:16 
6:17
[Comment From TexTex: ] 
For a team that plays primarily zone defense, they sure do stink at breaking it down offensively.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:17 Tex
6:17
Given the basketball IQ of the team today, no.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:17 
6:18
[Comment From LarryLarry: ] 
SB Nation has a post about the lane violation calling it phantom, but the GIFs they posted actually show two separate lane violations. The top GIF shows the low guy on the left side of the key with his right foot in the lane with the ball still in Scoop's hand. The second GIF shows a player breaking the 3-point arc before the ball hits the rim. LOL. These websites post stuff w/o knowing the rules or even looking at their own photo evidence. LOL http://www.sbnation.com/2012-ncaa-tournament/2012/3/15/2875873/unca-syracuse-refs-lane-violation-gif
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:18 Larry
6:18
[Comment From slimslim: ] 
Well, I did ask why Syracuse can't shoot anymore.....George...
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:18 slim
6:19
Tex: That is odd, isn't it. You'd think if there was one team that would know the ins and outs of beating a 2-3 zone, it's be SU.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:19 
6:19
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
YES start Sutherland and bring CJ off the bench. He is more comfortable there.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:19 Guest
6:19
[Comment From leoleo: ] 
any thoughts on carter williams seeing no PT?
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:19 leo
6:20
Larry, the replay showed the Asheville player on the blocks stepping in early. But why does the referee outside behind the key make that call? I thought he was supposed to watch for Scoop's foot and he calls the lane violation. Doesn't look right.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:20 
6:21
[Comment From slimslim: ] 
Does everyone like how the games are being broadcasted, this year?
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:21 slim
6:21
Leo, its the tournament and clearly, Boeheim wanted his experience in the backcourt. But don't you think Michael Carter-Williams might have been more willing to drive the ball dish it off inside? Seems like every time that happened, someone was open inside. Remember the play in which Scoop drove and dished to Christmas, who made the shot and was fouled? Where was that play the entire game?
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:21 
6:22
[Comment From LarryLarry: ] 
Maybe he was calling the 3-point arc violation. Who did he point to?
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:22 Larry
6:23
Larry, maybe that was it. Someone else suggested that. I don't know that rule.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:23 
6:23
[Comment From TexTex: ] 
Donnie: they were trying to convert that play from the three point line.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:23 Tex
6:23
[Comment From leoleo: ] 
MCW proved in big east tourney he belongs and can drive and dish with the best of em
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:23 leo
6:24
I thought Dion was just in a terrible funk today. Boeheim did too which is why he sat so long to start the second half. Seems like that's when MCW might have gotten a few minutes. but again, you're one-and-done and Jim committed himself to his experienced players in the backcourt.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:24 
6:25
[Comment From LarryLarry: ] 
You have to stay behind that line until the ball makes contact with the ring, flange or backboard, or until the free throw ends.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:25 Larry
6:26
[Comment From leoleo: ] 
i like barkley as a commentator he is must see TV and doesnt hold back saying what other people are thinking
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:26 leo
6:26
[Comment From LarryLarry: ] 
by line, I mean 3-point arc.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:26 Larry
6:26
Just to update everyone on today's scores:

In progress:
New Mexico 70, Long Beach 66, 1:15 left
Vanderbilt 56, Harvard 42, 10:50 left


Finals:
Murray State 58, Colorado State 41
Louisvill 69, Davidson 62
Marquette 88, BYU 68
Wisconsin 73, Montana 49
Kansas State 70, Southern Miss 64
Syracuse 72, UNC Asheville 65

Thursday March 15, 2012 6:26 
6:26
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
the video clearly shows the voilation on both accounts. You cant dispute that. A violation is a violation. Enough said.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:26 Guest
6:27
That's probably what he called; you can't see everything on the television copy; the ref pointed down, almost as if he was signaling a lane violation against a UNC-Asheville player closest to Scoop; the replay showed the player on the low block getting in early; but then we all missed it (as did the announcers) if it was a player going over the 3-point arc (if that's a rule).
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:27 
6:27
[Comment From leoleo: ] 
i thought maybe MCW or at least trisch deserved to go in when scoop chucked that three at a key moment
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:27 leo
6:28
Leo, I had just made a comment about Scoop that he made a great play not trying to feed bad-hands Baye on the fastbreak; he pulled it out; no sooner did I say that and Scoop chucked up that ridiculous 3 that way short with no rebounders; that's Scoop to a T!
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:28 
6:28
[Comment From BrandonBrandon: ] 
Yes, that is a rule. Player who starts outside the arc cannot come inside said arc until ball touches rim or backboard.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:28 Brandon
6:30
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
Scoop has not been making wise decisions for 6 games now. He makes one good shot and turns over the ball 4-5 times. Not sure why he is playing so much. Just sayin. MCW. DW will come back. Just haing a bad day. unlike Scoop for games now
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:30 Guest
6:31
[Comment From leoleo: ] 
donnie any truth to the rumors that waiters has stopped attending classes and is NBA bound?
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:31 leo
6:31
This is the way Scoop always plays; to his credit, he made some excellent plays today that led to some baskets, like the assist to Christmas; Scoop finished with game-high 7 assists
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:31 
6:33
[Comment From leoleo: ] 
scoop has always been the type of player you either love or hate. Personally I get nervous when the rock is in his hands at key moments.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:33 leo
6:33
Couldn't tell you about Waiters and class issues; he's the most NBA-marketable player on the team, so it'll be no surprise to anyone if he leaves after the season. But I was flabbergasted the way he checked out of the game mentally in the second half. That's not NBA ready there.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:33 
6:33
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
Sutherland had been cold earlier but you have to play a shooter and get him hot. He is hot now so they must ride on his ability. Scoop and Waiters drive to the rim. That is where you shine.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:33 Guest
6:34
[Comment From KevKev: ] 
Why does Kris take so many threes? Against a team with biggest starter 6'5", he goes 0-5 from deep? I get the guards doing it - Scoop doesn't know any better - but a 6'7" whose game is going to the hoop ... why?
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:34 Kev
6:34
It was no accident UNC-Asheville fouled him immediately (before the lane/arc violation deal). He's an inadequate free throw shooter to be a senior guard; but then he knocked down four in a row after getting a reprieve. Do you trust him to make a big free throw?
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:34 
6:35
[Comment From leoleo: ] 
i think waiters has mad skills but is replaceable btw trisch mcw and cooney
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:35 leo
6:35
[Comment From FITZBAHFITZBAH: ] 
NCAA rulebook, Rule 9, article 2(g) states "Players not in a legal marked lane space shall remain behind the freethrow line extended and behind the three-point field-goal line until the ball strikes the ring, flange or backboard, or until the free throw ends."
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:35 FITZBAH
6:35
Kev, KJ flunked his basketball IQ test today.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:35 
6:35
[Comment From TexTex: ] 
Donnie: no, I don't trust Scoop at all. At the free throw line or otherwise.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:35 Tex
6:35
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
Waiters will be fine but you are correct. Not ready yet for the next level . Next year is his year to shine.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:35 Guest
6:36
[Comment From leoleo: ] 
honestly i'd rather have the rock in trisch or waiters shooting foul shots or any key moment for that matter
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:36 leo
6:36
[Comment From KevKev: ] 
He's been flunking for a few games now.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:36 Kev
6:37
[Comment From BrandonBrandon: ] 
Donnie - KJ took too many deep balls, but I'm not convinced he flunked bball IQ test. He was well positioned on offensive boards in 2nd half, and was consistently in right place in zone.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:37 Brandon
6:37
Waiters is an incredible talent; its obvious that he's got some exceptional offensive skills; but I can't understand how he checked out of the game today in the second half - like fouling the player on the 3-point shot and standing and watching loose balls or rebounds; he seemed mentally out of it in the clutch. Confusing.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:37 
6:37
[Comment From JimJim: ] 
Donnie: Although no one will admit it, this seems like a team that is clearly hurting, distracted, and bearing an unbelievable weight. Even if those distractions have nothing to do with the current players, today's game was an example that these are young kids and they obviously are feeling the pressure.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:37 Jim
6:38
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
Scoop does get some assists but I swears he turns the ball over some much with dumb mistakes he wipes out anything good. Not an asset
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:38 Guest
6:38
[Comment From BrandonBrandon: ] 
As far as trust goes, I'll take the guy with the biggest proverbial "onions" when it's crunch time. For us, that's Dion.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:38 Brandon
6:38
[Comment From FITZBAHFITZBAH: ] 
Despite this teams offensive woes, they will be in every game they play because the play defense. Their defense late in games (last 5 minutes) this year has been nothing short of remarkable-
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:38 FITZBAH
6:38
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
shouldve pressed so they could push the tempo and run i saw no energy whats so ever out there today
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:38 Guest
6:38
[Comment From leoleo: ] 
and the air ball 3's or top of backboard waiters was way off second half
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:38 leo
6:38
In the poll, more than half of you think SU won't make it past the Sweet 16. Based on today's play, that's not too surprising
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:38 
6:39
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
yes Dion is where I would put my eggs in clutch time. He is not affraid to take it to the rim
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:39 Guest
6:40
Jim, that all may be true; I've just believed their talent is deep enough to rise above the loss of Fab; it doesn't explain to me why so many poor decisions were made on offense throughout the game or why they couldn't inbounds the ball with some competence at the end.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:40 
6:40
[Comment From KevKev: ] 
So, I didn't watch the USM-KSU game, with KSU advancing. Can SU advance without Fab? If they play like they did today, no. But will they change a few things (like stop shooting threes when you are hitting 60% inside the arc) and continue?
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:40 Kev
6:40
[Comment From leoleo: ] 
waiters should stick to his strength which is driving to the hoop with that muscular big body.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:40 leo
6:41
[Comment From JoeVerneJoeVerne: ] 
Why are all of the commentators focusing on the last two calls by the officials. If those calls were against us we would never hear a thing about it...........
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:41 JoeVerne
6:41
[Comment From BrandonBrandon: ] 
I also have doubt we won't advance past sweet 16. BUT... when Melo was first suspended the team came out shellshocked and like the walking dead against ND, then they came out against Cinci the next game and looked much better and much more active. A similar dynamic could be at play here, too!
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:41 Brandon
6:41
[Comment From stevesteve: ] 
we had a height advantage and didnt take advantage of it way to many three point shots today
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:41 steve
6:41
[Comment From leoleo: ] 
the whole fab thing that people are missing is exactly that we have so much talent. Last year Kieta was better than fab. Xmas was the number 1 center recruit out of high school. We just arent good at developing our freshman centers.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:41 leo
6:42
JoeVerne; Because they were two critical calls that went against the underdog, and everybody (but Syracuse fans) wants the underdogs to prevail.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:42 
6:42
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
Better shooting from the team does not mean 3 balls. SU does not have a consistent shooter. KJ needs to step up as a senior.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:42 Guest
6:43
[Comment From JoeVerneJoeVerne: ] 
That is true, but I also believe if it was Duke or UNC against the underdog it would still not be a focus of the media...
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:43 JoeVerne
6:43
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
YEs.... Christmas has to develop in a hurry.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:43 Guest
6:44
[Comment From leoleo: ] 
kj was hot from 3 heading into the tournaments though. I can live with him chucking more than scoop who really is not a good shooter
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:44 leo
6:44
Raq had a decent game (except when he was rejected by the rim on that one dunk); he had five offensive rebounds; the problem today was key players like Joseph and Fair and Scoop and Waiters and Triche making too many forced mistakes; the player who rose to the occasion today was James Sutherland; otherwise, Syracuse is probably out
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:44 
6:44
[Comment From JoeVerneJoeVerne: ] 
Don't get me wrong we played terribly, however that is all part of the March Madness. When you win you advance when you lose you go home.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:44 JoeVerne
6:45
[Comment From leoleo: ] 
southerland has been ket at the end of season he is earning a starter roile next year more than likely
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:45 leo
6:45
[Comment From BrandonBrandon: ] 
Rak was often out of position on defense. Also is a pretty poor outlet passer at this point. He did attack the glass well, though.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:45 Brandon
6:45
[Comment From JoeVerneJoeVerne: ] 
I wish this whole Melo came out before Tuesday so we would have gotten a lower seed and the players would not feel so much pressure.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:45 JoeVerne
6:45
KJ was not good in New York at the Big East tournament; he gets 12 points today but was 3-of-10 shooting (1-of-6 in the first half). he got eight rebounds today though I'm perplexed as to when they actually occured
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:45 
6:46
[Comment From JoeVerneJoeVerne: ] 
Do we have a tip time for Saturdays game yet?
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:46 JoeVerne
6:47
Joe: Times for next game won't be announced until late tonight.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:47 
6:47
[Comment From leoleo: ] 
raks problem is awareness which is correctable
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:47 leo
6:47
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
Stop shotting 3's and we will be just fine. Go to the rim....please. Only Sutherland can shoot the three. All others have to wait until there is no one in the gym to shoot one. LOL
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:47 Guest
6:47
[Comment From JoeVerneJoeVerne: ] 
That is what I thought, thanks
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:47 JoeVerne
6:48
[Comment From JoeVerneJoeVerne: ] 
Has anyone heard if the media asked JB why he did not use the full court press today.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:48 JoeVerne
6:48
[Comment From bobbyvbobbyv: ] 
mcw is a tall rangy player with very good slashing moves and a very good passer..why oh why is he sitting when jardine is playing the way hes playing.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:48 bobbyv
6:50
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
MY thoughts exactly. Scoop makes bone head play after play. Remember last year against Marquette? Oh my!
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:50 Guest
6:51
Refs blew the call against Scoop in the Marquette game; but point taken that he does err at times.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:51 
6:51
[Comment From JoeVerneJoeVerne: ] 
The press has been very effective for us this season in close games to change the momentum.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:51 JoeVerne
6:51
[Comment From leoleo: ] 
thats what I wondered earlier somebody should grill JB on no press or failure to adjust IMO
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:51 leo
6:51
[Comment From BuzzyBuzzy: ] 
When 2 players are standing around looking at each other with less than 30 seconds to go while trying to get the ball in the coach lacks prep work with his players...
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:51 Buzzy
6:52
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
Play MCW more. He can shoot and get inside.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:52 Guest
6:53
By the way, New Mexico beat Long Beach State, 75-68.

Harvard has pulled to within 71-65 of Vanderbilt with 1:24 left
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:53 
6:53
Buzzy, there's no chance Syracuse didn't cover the inbounds play against the press in its preparation; its failure to execute is just amazing
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:53 
6:54
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
Yes, the refs did blow the call against Marq in the over n back but Scoop should have not been in that position to begin with if I recall correctly.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:54 Guest
6:54
[Comment From malomarmalomar: ] 
Triche and Waiters don't seem to make anything happen offensively when on the floor together. Why not use MCW when you want to rest Scoop (who makes it happen, good or bad)
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:54 malomar
6:54
[Comment From BuzzyBuzzy: ] 
JB needs to yield to a younger better coach...
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:54 Buzzy
6:55
[Comment From EthanEthan: ] 
Is it me or is everyone making the refs to be a lot worse than they actually were? Im a big cuse fan so im obviously biased, but the only bad call I saw was the out of bounds on triche, and it was a foul so either way it should have been our ball
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:55 Ethan
6:55
[Comment From BrandonBrandon: ] 
Here's what there is a chance of, though, Donnie: JB didn't tell them during the timeout directly before that free throw that they should be expecting a press. It may have been covered in practice, but it doesn't appear to have been reviewed (or maybe even mentioned) during the timeout.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:55 Brandon
6:56
now, now; buzzy, the Orange is 32-2; gotta be some pretty good coaching to win that many games
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:56 
6:56
[Comment From docdoc: ] 
time to mix up the 5 on the floor and possible take keta and christmas out, and go with smaller team cjf in middle on zone and play mcw more, and 3 guard offense more with pressing
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:56 doc
6:56
[Comment From ottodaorangeottodaorange: ] 
Musings from the game:The thing that made the biggest impresssion on me was that Syracuse came out flat and they seemed tired. They were a step slow on defense, left wide open shots, were sluggish with poor ball movement, and missed numerous open shots like their legs were tired. They looked like they were out of gas. It's a fact, that sometimes emotional stress can cause more fatigue than physical exhaustion. Afterall, you at least have adrenalin to fall back on when you are physically spent. I hope I'm wrong, but I think all the drama of this season has finally caught up with them. Secondly, the senior leadership was missing until crunch time in the second half. Thirdly, James grew up today! Number four,they won the battle on the boards, even if it was against a smaller team. Rak played well but still needs to mature in a hurry. C.J. was missing in action. Dion kept us in the game in the first half. I'm not optomistic about the next game.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:56 ottodaorange
6:57
[Comment From BrandonBrandon: ] 
Ethan, according to the head of the NCAA officiating after the game, the fact that the contact occurred after the ball touched Triche makes it incidental and thus should have been UNCAshe ball.
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:57 Brandon
6:57
There's no way Syracuse didn't anticipate a press knowing it had a pretty good chance of leading the game; the complete lack of execution was astounding; Sutherland had the ball out of bounds and Scoop is running around like he's just getting set up to make a pick; it did come across as clueless
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:57 
6:58
[Comment From BrandonBrandon: ] 
That said, refs blew 2 other calls: the clear goaltend on our part that was not called (that mistake was in our favor) and the clear non-goaltend on which they gave Ashe 2 pts in the first half (that mistake was in UNC-Ashe's favor). On balance, it was an evenly called game
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:58 Brandon
6:59
[Comment From EthanEthan: ] 
Thats what I meant, they did a poor job, but a poor job both ways
Thursday March 15, 2012 6:59 Ethan
7:00
[Comment From BrandonBrandon: ] 
Mike Waters seems to disagree with you, Donnie. He mentioned in their blog how the players looked as though they weren't told to expect the press...
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:00 Brandon
7:00
[Comment From malomarmalomar: ] 
Baye was supposed to be setting picks against their press and was at the wrong end of the floor. JB was yelling at him about it during timeout. Guys are palying that aren't used to being in the game at the end.
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:00 malomar
7:00
[Comment From BrandonBrandon: ] 
Still, Scoop should have been able to handle that better rather JB mentioned it in the timeout or not...
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:00 Brandon
7:01
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
SU should have pressed. It has been successful. Complete let down today from most players. Get past it and learn from it and move on. UNC is not a patsy if you look at the UNC game and others. They are good and SU palyed crappy. Time to step it up and be men SU...Remember SU/UConn overtime games. You can do it.
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:01 Guest
7:01
[Comment From leoleo: ] 
can't argue the fact that JB is stubborn with his ways and doesn't adjust!
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:01 leo
7:01
[Comment From BuzzyBuzzy: ] 
Prue talent year in and year out...amazing how successful he has been because of it...tired of the lack of fundamentals by players and coach..
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:01 Buzzy
7:01
Brandon, Mike's obviously at the game site and knows the situation; I just find it unbelievable Syracuse didn't expect press or know how to attack the press.
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:01 
7:01
Vanderbilt about to finish off the win against Harvard. Commodores up 77-68 with 25 seconds left.

So, if you picked all the favorites (at least by seeding), you'll be 8-0 so far.
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:01 
7:03
Final:

79-70, Vanderbilt over Harvard.
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:03 
7:03
[Comment From BrandonBrandon: ] 
It disappointed me, too, Donnie. But it sure didn't shock me. Years of watching Boeheim's teams lack preparation/discipline has made me come to expect such errors...
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:03 Brandon
7:04
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
Go CUSE ! It's my BD on Saturday so I need a win for the Irish in me. Please ! Happy St. Patrick's Day from Savannah. Go CUSE!
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:04 Guest
7:04
[Comment From BuzzyBuzzy: ] 
^5 to that Brandon...may because I was a fundamental smart player that wasnt very talented but had great success for many years!!!
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:04 Buzzy
7:04
[Comment From BrandonBrandon: ] 
Savannah on St. Pat's?? I'm jealous!!!
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:04 Brandon
7:05
It's unacceptable to not understand how to inbound the ball against a press that you know is coming at the end of a game because you're expected to be winning the game; go figure
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:05 
7:06
[Comment From BuzzyBuzzy: ] 
Sounds like a great family of ball players I know that goes to Savannah to celebrate St Pat
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:06 Buzzy
7:07
For those still with us. Just curious: Who do you have in the final four on your bracket?
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:07 
7:07
[Comment From GeorgieGeorgie: ] 
Just curious, why didn't Trisch get to show fouls shots at the end of the half? He was fouled in the act of shooting, on his way up, with time on the shot clock and on the game clock.
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:07 Georgie
7:07
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
Yep its great city and a great time to celebrate. Just need the Cuse to keep winning to make it all good. Good luck to all the SU fans.
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:07 Guest
7:08
[Comment From Bob in MesaBob in Mesa: ] 
SU, Kenty, Mich, Mich St
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:08 Bob in Mesa
7:09
[Comment From BuzzyBuzzy: ] 
Always expected the unexpected...thats why you prepare for all scenarios prior to the game and during all the TO they get today
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:09 Buzzy
7:09
[Comment From BrandonBrandon: ] 
JB teams always lack preparation. It's the bad that comes with the good of getting lots of recruits because you just "let em play"... But that recruiting bonus gets you talented guys who lose when they are off because they are not prepared for the situations that will arise when they are not playing their best.
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:09 Brandon
7:10
[Comment From BrandonBrandon: ] 
I give you the Butler, Marquette, Vermont, A&M, and Richmond games as examples of my point.
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:10 Brandon
7:11
Bob: Michigan, huh? Not a bad longshot pick.


Thursday March 15, 2012 7:11 
7:11
[Comment From JoeVerneJoeVerne: ] 
One thing i will say is that UNCA played a good game and played better than a 16 seed. Obviously SU did not bring their A or B game, but we can not overlook how well UNCA played today
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:11 JoeVerne
7:12
[Comment From BrandonBrandon: ] 
UNCA played excellent defense
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:12 Brandon
7:13
[Comment From BuzzyBuzzy: ] 
Thats when a coach needs to step in and manage the come to a successful outcome if possible Brandon...not that they can always do so
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:13 Buzzy
7:13
[Comment From JoeVerneJoeVerne: ] 
Brandon: That brings me to my next point, why do we struggle so much against a zone? We have on of the best in the country but do not play well against it.....
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:13 JoeVerne
7:14
[Comment From JasonJason: ] 
What a waste of our athletic advantage at every position on the court playing that lazy zone is. The top dint even stay at home and got sucked down while everyone in the world knew it was all dribble drive kick back to primm. No McWilliams, no press, no man to man men's we will be out next game. Mike Hopkins can't take over soon enough
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:14 Jason
7:14
[Comment From JMJM: ] 
Every inbounds Scoop and Dion brought the ball up in such a slow plodding manner. It set a lethargic tone. I'd like to see them hustle up the court more to catch the zone before it was set. More often than not we would settle for an outside shot anyway, so why not run and gun a bit? They seemed tired.
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:14 JM
7:16
[Comment From BrandonBrandon: ] 
Joe... Boeheim used the excuse that the team barely ever sees zone. When I heard that I just had to laugh because it rang so hollow. I mean, his guys see it every single day in practice. Does he expect we just believe everything out of his mouth??
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:16 Brandon
7:16
[Comment From yanowsityanowsit: ] 
where was the press by SU ?
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:16 yanowsit
7:16
[Comment From Bob in MesaBob in Mesa: ] 
I think this B10 & BE traded places in top to bottom toughness -
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:16 Bob in Mesa
7:16
JoeVerne: I mentioned that earlier. You'd think of all the teams in the country, SU should know how to beat the zone.
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:16 
7:17
[Comment From BrandonBrandon: ] 
Our defense was good today. This team we played averages over 80. The issues were on the offensive end. Zone did it's job, particularly in 2nd half
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:17 Brandon
7:18
[Comment From BrandonBrandon: ] 
I think we know how to bat zone, but knowing where to be and being able to shoot well are two different things... teams know we are weak at shooting, so they pack it in and make the mid-range and inside game tougher for us and then watch us settle for threes
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:18 Brandon
7:19
Syracuse played right into the trap on offense set by Asheville
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:19 
7:21
[Comment From docdoc: ] 
one more time christmas and keta very weak defensively in zone, our only chance is to use more of a rotationof dw, cj, bt, mcw, cjf,js,and sj more with more pressing and often 3 guards on floor , will have to put cjf inmiddle of zone but more man to man trapping defense is needed
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:21 doc
7:22
Alright gang, enjoy it (if you can); the Orange lives to play another game; and I'm headed to have dinner with the kids; thanx for a great post-game and for spending time with us
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:22 
7:22
[Comment From WHEWWHEW: ] 
Player of the game was Southerland. First bad game for Fair in a long time
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:22 WHEW
7:22
Hey, folks, I want to thank everyone for joining us for today's Q&A. A lot of interesting discussion.

Please check Syracuse.com for complete coverage of today's game and Syracuse's entire tournament run, as well as updates on all the NCAA Tournament action. We'll have in-game updates from SU-Kansas State on Saturday. We're unsure about a post-game Q&A ... depends on the time of the game, which won't be released until late tonight.

Thanks again for joining us everyone, and have a great night.
Thursday March 15, 2012 7:22 
7:22
 

 
 
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