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(08/20/2008)

1:02

Shane B.:

Hello all.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:02 Shane B.

1:02

ryan:

Hi, Shane.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:02 ryan

1:02

ryan:

Are you PUMPED for some FedEx Cup action?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:02 ryan

1:03

Shane B.:

It's the FedEx Cup chat, where we try to figure out a lot of things about the FedEx Cup. Why do we have it? Who wants $10 million? Will Kenny Perry wear something kinda tight this week?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:03 Shane B.

1:03

ryan:

Don't know if you heard, but Tiger Woods won't be playing. Just came across the wire.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:03 ryan

1:03

Shane B.:

What happened to him?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:03 Shane B.

1:04

ryan:

In other news: Kenny Perry is playing the John Deere Classic again this week -- by himself -- to cement his Ryder Cup chances.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:04 ryan

1:04	Do you care about the FedEx Cup? Yes ( 12% ) No ( 41% ) What is the FedEx Cup? ( 47% ) Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:04

1:04

Shane B.:

That man has some interesting views on things.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:04 Shane B.

1:04

ryan:

And finally, Michelle Wie has admitted to being from Pluto.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:04 ryan

1:04

Shane B.:

The thing is, he's top on points right now, just behind the previously mentioned Tiger Woods.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:04 Shane B.

1:05

Shane B.:

The bad news for Perry -- he hasn't played very well in tournaments with, you know, good players in them.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:05 Shane B.

1:05

ryan:

For those of you who missed it, Shane broke down the FedEx Cup yesterday.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:05 ryan

1:05

Shane B.:

It's "can't miss" stuff.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:05 Shane B.

1:06

ryan:

And by "can't miss" you mean?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:06 ryan

1:06

Shane B.:

Perry isn't really that hot right now. He finished t-66 at the Bridgestone and withdrew because of a contact at the PGA.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:06 Shane B.

1:07

ryan:

That's the contact that goes in your eye to aid one's vision, not illegal contact with a PGA official. Just being clear -- don't want to start any rumors.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:07 ryan

1:07

Shane B.:

With the top five competing players, Perry, Mickelson, Padraig, Kim and Cink, who do you love winning this thing?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:07 Shane B.

1:07

[Comment From SahaleeSahalee: ]

anthony kim will raise the cup

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:07 Sahalee

1:08

[Comment From Cheetah jungleCheetah jungle: ]

None of this should even count without Tiger in the field

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:08 Cheetah jungle

1:08

ryan:

Well, I'm going to take Anthony Kim just becuase I know you're in love with him.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:08 ryan

1:08

Shane B.:

I think Sergio, since he isn't winning any majors.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:08 Shane B.

1:08

ryan:

Not sure if he has a better shot than Philbert or Sergio (or whomever), but he's certainly in the conversation.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:08 ryan

1:09

Shane B.:

Not really on fire much lately though.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:09 Shane B.

1:09

[Comment From Cheetah jungleCheetah jungle: ]

I bet michael phelps could beat all these guys in golf too

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:09 Cheetah jungle

1:09

ryan:

Ocho Cinco disagrees.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:09 ryan

1:09

Shane B.:

After his intense run of 1-7-8, he's finished t-36 and t-55 at the Bridgestone and PGA.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:09 Shane B.

1:09

Shane B.:

There was an interesting poll on golf.com that i'm going to publish right now. let's see what people think.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:09 Shane B.

1:09

ryan:

So what are you thoughts on the whole FedEx set up? I thought it seemed a bit forced last year but I'm sorta warming to it.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:09 ryan

1:09	Who is a better athlete? Tiger Woods ( 37% ) Michael Phelps ( 63% ) Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:09

1:10

Shane B.:

Totally agree.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:10 Shane B.

1:10

ryan:

Seriously, is golf less of a sport than swimming?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:10 ryan

1:10

ryan:

And if so, how?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:10 ryan

1:11

[Comment From Cheetah jungleCheetah jungle: ]

both golf and swimming arent sports but micheal phelps is awesome....so is tiger but phelps is cooler cause he wats like 12,000 calories a day and isnt fat

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:11 Cheetah jungle

1:11

Shane B.:

The thing was, last year's FedEx Cup was great. Mickelson was in it, Tiger was dominating and even a random but known player, Steve Stricker, made a run and had people very interested.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:11 Shane B.

1:11

Shane B.:

It will be hard to beat that this year.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:11 Shane B.

1:12	Who consumes more calories a day? John Daly ( 20% ) Michael Phelps ( 20% ) Grizzly Bear ( 60% ) Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:12

1:13

ryan:

Anybdy who thinks a grizzly bear consumes more calories a day than DJ is insane.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:13 ryan

1:13	Who wins the FedEx Cup? Kenny Perry ( 0% ) Phil Mickelson ( 15% ) Anthony Kim ( 23% ) Vijay Singh ( 23% ) Geoff Ogilvy ( 0% ) Other ( 38% ) Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:13

1:14

ryan:

But to your point, yeah, there will almost certainly be less excitement this year because Eldrick is at home. At least going into the event. It could turn out like the British or PGA -- a great Sunday finish -- and that would be great, but that still doesn't guarantee ratings, apparently.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:14 ryan

1:14

Shane B.:

Exactly, and it will have less Greg Norman.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:14 Shane B.

1:14

[Comment From scottscott: ]

anthony kim is the next big thing he is the rival to tiger we,ve all been looking for

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:14 scott

1:15

Shane B.:

I sure hope so because I think he's brash enough to be that guy.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:15 Shane B.

1:15

ryan:

But more Lee Janzen.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:15 ryan

1:15

[Comment From THEwigzTHEwigz: ]

wheres tiger?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:15 THEwigz

1:15

[Comment From SahaleeSahalee: ]

when finchim leaves his post will fedex cup also expire (i hope it does)

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:15 Sahalee

1:15

Shane B.:

The thing he does have going for him that is Tiger-esque is his ability to always make the weekend (hasn't missed one since early April).

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:15 Shane B.

1:16

Shane B.:

Sahalee, I don't think so.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:16 Shane B.

1:16

ryan:

I'd be fine with it expiring. I think it makes more sense to make the PGA Championship relevant, which it hasn't been in, well, a long time. But like Shane says, I don't see it happening.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:16 ryan

1:16

[Comment From scottscott: ]

i like the fed ex cup i hope it doesn't go anywhere a few changes and maybe a match play event would be nice

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:16 scott

1:16

Shane B.:

I also think the PGA Championship should be match play, something Ryan and I have discussed.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:16 Shane B.

1:17

Shane B.:

See, Scott and I think alike. I love a match play as the last event of the season as well. A "last man standing" type situation.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:17 Shane B.

1:17

[Comment From Cheetah jungleCheetah jungle: ]

hey have you guys looked at the poll results? seems like people agree phelps is better

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:17 Cheetah jungle

1:17

Shane B.:

He's so hot right now. -Zoolander-d

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:17 Shane B.

1:17

ryan:

Somebody had an interesting idea on Shane's FedEx post yesterday.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:17 ryan

1:18

ryan:

Plus, Phelps' family are huge Golf FanHouse readers -- they're skewing the results.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:18 ryan

1:18

Shane B.:

I think, with the comment to the story, it would be nice to see the best fight it out.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:18 Shane B.

1:18

[Comment From THEwigzTHEwigz: ]

phelps will have to be tiger-proofed b4 he takes on the endorsement train coming at him full-speed

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:18 THEwigz

1:18

Shane B.:

And not this many guys with an opportunity to battle.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:18 Shane B.

1:18

Shane B.:

I mean, Lee Janzen? For real?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:18 Shane B.

1:18

[Comment From THEwigzTHEwigz: ]

...and right now, he doesnt have that personable appeal that tiger has...he didnt have a father like tiger...agreed?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:18 THEwigz

1:18

Shane B.:

Correct.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:18 Shane B.

1:19

ryan:

Yep, Janzen just snuck in.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:19 ryan

1:19

ryan:

And Rich Beem's in too!

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:19 ryan

1:20

[Comment From SahaleeSahalee: ]

no love for janzen? will azinger make his ryder picks based on these playoff events?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:20 Sahalee

1:20

Shane B.:

So, with such a small amount of people saying they're interested in the FedEx, will you be watching? It's a tough time for golf with the Olympics, football and baseball. I just feel that for all the money they invest in this thing, they could take full advantage of the horrible summer months and hang this thing during early August.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:20 Shane B.

1:20

Shane B.:

Sahalee, he says he will. He's big on the "players hot right now" so this will decide it.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:20 Shane B.

1:20

[Comment From THEwigzTHEwigz: ]

will john daly ever improve his image? or will he be the way he is until he kicks the bucket?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:20 THEwigz

1:21

[Comment From scottscott: ]

oh i'll wATCH FOR SURE

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:21 scott

1:21

ryan:

Sahalee, I like Janzen fine, but he's been invisible for a while now. Speaking of which, does anybody enjoy the FedEx more than the Ryder Cup? I can't imagine so, but who knows.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:21 ryan

1:21

Shane B.:

Scott and I. The only TVs tuned to golf.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:21 Shane B.

1:21

ryan:

I'm guessing John Daly ain't changing at this point in the proceedings.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:21 ryan

1:21

Shane B.:

I'm one of the few that likes the President cup more than the Ryder cup. That probably has something to do with the fact that we get slapped around every year by the euros.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:21 Shane B.

1:22

ryan:

He's so hard not to love, but good Lord, he is a train wreck.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:22 ryan

1:22

Shane B.:

But if you want to see him, it's only $25!

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:22 Shane B.

1:22

ryan:

Yeah, I can see that, but in terms of prestige, the President's Cup isn't even close to the Ryder Cup. But, right, if you're not winning, it kinda takes away from the whole experience.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:22 ryan

1:23

Shane B.:

I just think the names are bigger now. I mean, Graeme MCDOWELL is on the Euro team.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:23 Shane B.

1:23

[Comment From SahaleeSahalee: ]

i enjoy the ryder cup way more...not even close. what is the fedex cup?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:23 Sahalee

1:24

[Comment From scottscott: ]

the presidents cup brings in other countries that are really better like australia

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:24 scott

1:24

Shane B.:

Totally. Speaking of Australia, has anyone heard or seen from Adam Scott? Is he still alive?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:24 Shane B.

1:24

Shane B.:

I sure hope so, he always seemed like a nice kid.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:24 Shane B.

1:25

ryan:

Scott, fair enough, but the U.S.-Euro rivalries have been much, much better. And by "rivalries" I obvioulsy mean 1999.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:25 ryan

1:25

ryan:

Last I heard, Adam Scott's caddie beat the crap out of him for making wise.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:25 ryan

1:25

Shane B.:

Agree. One of the only Sports Illustrateds I ever kept. I've read the story of the Leonard putt like 100 times.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:25 Shane B.

1:25

ryan:

So has Justin.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:25 ryan

1:26

Shane B.:

Scott is 24th on th FedEx list. Obviously has a chance with the new point adjustments.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:26 Shane B.

1:26

Shane B.:

Nobody, and I mean zero people, think Kenny Perry has a chance to win this. My what a month will do to a golfer.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:26 Shane B.

1:27

ryan:

Honestly, 65 percent of the people here think Phelps is a better athlete? So if we had Eldrick and Phelps compete in 10 random sporting events, Phelps would win the majority of them? Obviously, we'd have to define the events, but save "swimming, treading water, going off the high dive, etc" I'd have to think Tiger would be favored, right?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:27 ryan

1:27

Shane B.:

They say Tiger can dunk. Also, I heard he's good at golf.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:27 Shane B.

1:28

ryan:

And there's no doubt Tiger would win a fist fight. I mean, he is juicing, after all.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:28 ryan

1:28

ryan:

Of course, Phelps does have his iPod...

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:28 ryan

1:28

[Comment From SahaleeSahalee: ]

will stricker win another comeback player of the year if he defends his title at barclays?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:28 Sahalee

1:28

Shane B.:

I don't think he can do it three years in a row.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:28 Shane B.

1:28

ryan:

I like Stricker, but as soon as his puter goes, he's worthless.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:28 ryan

1:28

Shane B.:

Wouldn't that finally defeat the purpose of the title?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:28 Shane B.

1:28

[Comment From scottscott: ]

oh think kenny perry has a great chance just stay consistent

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:28 scott

1:28

Shane B.:

Joe Morgan?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:28 Shane B.

1:28

Shane B.:

Is that you?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:28 Shane B.

1:29

Shane B.:

Just kidding, I agree, I think perry has a chance, he's just struggled as of late.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:29 Shane B.

1:29

[Comment From CraigerCraiger: ]

Tiger tiger

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:29 Craiger

1:29

ryan:

Oh, I thought I was Joe Morgan -- I was worried.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:29 ryan

1:29

Shane B.:

Vegas gave me even money to pick him in the FedEx!

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:29 Shane B.

1:29

Shane B.:

Even money for Tiger?!!?!? Are they crazy?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:29 Shane B.

1:29

ryan:

Will Kenny Perry be playing with an eye patch? That could change the odds.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:29 ryan

1:30

Shane B.:

I guess that would make plump-bobbing a lot easier.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:30 Shane B.

1:30

[Comment From SahaleeSahalee: ]

hey, what happened to immelman. didn't he win the masters?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:30 Sahalee

1:30

Shane B.:

I think he did. Was that this year?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:30 Shane B.

1:30

Shane B.:

He's 20th on the FedEx list.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:30 Shane B.

1:30

ryan:

Immelman was around the leaderboard during the PGA. And I think he won the 1975 Masters.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:30 ryan

1:30

Shane B.:

I guess winning the Masters gives you a ton of points.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:30 Shane B.

1:30

[Comment From scottscott: ]

man what did nappen to immelman is it his putting

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:30 scott

1:31

Shane B.:

Well, he's 173rd on tour in putting.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:31 Shane B.

1:31

Shane B.:

So maybe that has something to do with it.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:31 Shane B.

1:31

Shane B.:

He's missed the cut at the AT&T and the PGA, so it isn't like he's closing strong.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:31 Shane B.

1:31

[Comment From scottscott: ]

his ball striking display at the masters was amazing

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:31 scott

1:31

ryan:

I'm not sure anything "happened" to Immelman -- winning on Tour is really hard. Tiger's sorta spoiled us. Thankfully, Philbert is there to remind us of actually how hard it is to hold onto a lead on Sunday.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:31 ryan

1:32

Shane B.:

Very good point.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:32 Shane B.

1:32

Shane B.:

We've talked about this before, but winning once on tour is hard enough, so if it's a major, I think you consider it a great year.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:32 Shane B.

1:32

ryan:

Or maybe it's his putting. And forget what I said about Immelman being near the top of the leaderboard at the PGA since, you know, he missed the cut.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:32 ryan

1:33

ryan:

Speaking of Philbert, what happens first, he wins his fifth major, or Sergio wins his first? I really have no idea.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:33 ryan

1:33

Shane B.:

Also, even with the win at the Bridgestone, I think we will quietly forget who Vijay Singh is. His putting has got to a point where that nasty "Y" word will be forever linked to the big Fijian.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:33 Shane B.

1:33

[Comment From scottscott: ]

there are a lot of good ball strikers out there but not too many great putters any more

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:33 scott

1:34

Shane B.:

It's just a different game. When you're hitting it five feet all day long, being an average putter is good enough.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:34 Shane B.

1:34

Shane B.:

I think the new groove rule will change that a little.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:34 Shane B.

1:34

[Comment From scottscott: ]

not in majors

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:34 scott

1:34

Shane B.:

But look at guys like Vijay and then look at guys like Brad Faxon.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:34 Shane B.

1:34

ryan:

I can't say it enough: we need more Brad Faxon!

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:34 ryan

1:34

ryan:

/types too slow

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:34 ryan

1:35

Shane B.:

Brad Faxon sexes us the PGA Tour.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:35 Shane B.

1:35

ryan:

Frankly, for as awesome as Faxon is on the greens, I don't think anybody would rather be him over Vijay. Including Brad. But, yeah, if he could put for Vijay, he'd break Jack's major record in five years.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:35 ryan

1:35

[Comment From scottscott: ]

you have to be able to put in majors you can't hit it to five feet on an 8,000 yard course with ridculous greens

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:35 scott

1:36

Shane B.:

I would agree with you.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:36 Shane B.

1:36

Shane B.:

That is why guys like Tiger Woods and Padraig Harrington (and even Phil) win a lot of those.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:36 Shane B.

1:36

Shane B.:

And guys like Trevor Immelman or Rich Beem have their moment in the sun because they had a great week doing both.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:36 Shane B.

1:37

Shane B.:

But I don't think people are betting a lot of money on Shaun Micheel week in and week out. He had his week, it was special, but when you're an average putter, it shows 99 percent of the time.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:37 Shane B.

1:37

ryan:

Trevor is offended by that you compared him to Beem.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:37 ryan

1:37

Shane B.:

If Trevor can ever been in a golf book as cool as "Bud Sweat and Tees" then he can talk.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:37 Shane B.

1:38

Shane B.:

Speaking of Phelps and golf, what are your thoughts on golf in the olympics?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:38 Shane B.

1:38

ryan:

BORING.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:38 ryan

1:38

Shane B.:

I wrote on my other little blog that I think it's pointless.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:38 Shane B.

1:38

ryan:

What's the point? I know Phil wants to expand the game, but is that the best way?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:38 ryan

1:38

[Comment From gmoneygmoney: ]

good idea

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:38 gmoney

1:38

Shane B.:

Because we have the Ryder Cup and Presidents Cup and get to see our guys compete against the world already.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:38 Shane B.

1:39

[Comment From scottscott: ]

i want golf in the olympics grow the game= more competition and another tiger maybe

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:39 scott

1:39

Shane B.:

I just really hope that if it ever does happen, nobody says things like "Well, Tiger is better than Jack because he has 19 majors AND a gold."

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:39 Shane B.

1:39

ryan:

Fair enough, I suppose. It just seems like every sport wants to be in the olympics. There's talk about football. I mean, FOOTBALL. How lopsided would that be?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:39 ryan

1:39

[Comment From gmoneygmoney: ]

their are so many sports in the plimpics now thier would be no reason for golf not to be in it

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:39 gmoney

1:40

Shane B.:

Golf was in the Olympics in 1900 and 1904. Anyone around to remember how it went?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:40 Shane B.

1:40

Shane B.:

I bet they were dressed sharp.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:40 Shane B.

1:40

ryan:

By the way, from now on, I'm definitely referring to it as the "Plimpics." That's awesome.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:40 ryan

1:40

[Comment From scottscott: ]

the dedication that you see from tiger is more likely to come from one of these countries that golf is exploding in like india and china

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:40 scott

1:40

[Comment From SahaleeSahalee: ]

has this year's golf season already been defined by tiger's us open win over rocco, or will the fedex and/or ryder offer some drama?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:40 Sahalee

1:41

Shane B.:

I think this season will be defined for more than that.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:41 Shane B.

1:41

ryan:

Sahalee, probably, but Paddy's definitely the Player of the Year. Right?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:41 ryan

1:41

Shane B.:

Harrington winning consecutive majors has to be a big story.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:41 Shane B.

1:41

ryan:

I ALREADY SAID THAT.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:41 ryan

1:41

ryan:

KEEP UP.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:41 ryan

1:41

[Comment From scottscott: ]

harrington hands down player of the year

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:41 scott

1:41

Shane B.:

I agree.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:41 Shane B.

1:41

ryan:

With me or Scott?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:41 ryan

1:41

[Comment From gmoneygmoney: ]

no doubt

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:41 gmoney

1:42

Shane B.:

The Mark O'Meara effect of 1998.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:42 Shane B.

1:42

Shane B.:

Win two majors, you're POTY.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:42 Shane B.

1:42

ryan:

Isn't that when you win two majors and fall in love with Tiger?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:42 ryan

1:42

[Comment From SahaleeSahalee: ]

it's big story,... but when people ask about the 2008 golf season, firs thing that comes to mind is the gutty performance and battle with rocco, no?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:42 Sahalee

1:42

ryan:

Yep. But that's Tiger for you.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:42 ryan

1:42

Shane B.:

Exactly.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:42 Shane B.

1:42

Shane B.:

If it was anyone else, people would love it but wouldn't remember it for years to come.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:42 Shane B.

1:42

Shane B.:

Because it was Tiger, it's the golf story of the last couple of years.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:42 Shane B.

1:43

Shane B.:

The only way the Ryder Cup beats it out is a big comeback or a really gutty performance by a young American like Kim (crush).

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:43 Shane B.

1:43

[Comment From gmoneygmoney: ]

i think its great that tiger is gone for awhile, noboby can really guess who will come through with the next win

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:43 gmoney

1:43

ryan:

What about this: what if Rocco had won at Torrey Pines, would he be the POY over Paddy?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:43 ryan

1:43

[Comment From scottscott: ]

i don't know harrington winning to in the absense of tiger is a huge deal if he plays well over the next year or two

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:43 scott

1:44

Shane B.:

He already won with Tiger in the field.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:44 Shane B.

1:44

[Comment From scottscott: ]

no ryan

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:44 scott

1:44

[Comment From gmoneygmoney: ]

well harrington won a major while tiger was present

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:44 gmoney

1:44

Shane B.:

He's won three of the last six, Padraig has nothing to prove.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:44 Shane B.

1:44

Shane B.:

He's the second best player in the game right now, and the best player not hanging out with his daughter.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:44 Shane B.

1:45

[Comment From gmoneygmoney: ]

word

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:45 gmoney

1:45

[Comment From scottscott: ]

oh yeah i know i am saying that will be the story of the next couple of years if harrington can challenge tiger in another major

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:45 scott

1:45	Does Tiger Woods win the FedEx Cup if he's in the field? Yes ( 82% ) No ( 9% ) Who? ( 9% ) Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:45

1:46

[Comment From SahaleeSahalee: ]

is monty in the fedex cup or is he waiting for the call from faldo?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:46 Sahalee

1:46

ryan:

I think he's taking two weeks off and waiting (and praying) by the phone.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:46 ryan

1:46

[Comment From scottscott: ]

anybody watching the us am

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:46 scott

1:46

ryan:

Good luck and godspeed, Mrs. Doubtfire.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:46 ryan

1:46

Shane B.:

I've got it on.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:46 Shane B.

1:47

Shane B.:

It's always weird to see golfers on TV with shorts on.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:47 Shane B.

1:47

ryan:

Nope, but Colt Knost looks pretty smart right about now.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:47 ryan

1:47

ryan:

RE: shorts

Exception: Tiger at TPC Sawgrass winning amateur in Daisy Dukes and Panama Jack hat.

/obviously

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:47 ryan

1:48

Shane B.:

I was just looking for a picture of that.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:48 Shane B.

1:48

Shane B.:

It doesn't even look like the same guy.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:48 Shane B.

1:48

[Comment From scottscott: ]

what about colt knost in the future? i think he looks like a promising talent

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:48 scott

1:48

Shane B.:

For sure!

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:48 Shane B.

1:49

Shane B.:

Look what he did on his first season on the Nationwide.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:49 Shane B.

1:49

ryan:

This sounds lame, but he's got a lot of confidence. It took some balls to turn pro (I know, I know, a lot of Am winners do it) AND earn his card in less than a year.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:49 ryan

1:50

Shane B.:

I think that if you can get your PGA Tour card, you obviously take it, but like Ryan Moore and a lot of great Ams (Wie, we're looking at you) it's hard to jump to that HIGH of a level of golf and compete right away.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:50 Shane B.

1:50

Shane B.:

Obviously Moore is a great player, but Knost went to the Nationwide Tour as a big attraction and has taken advantage of it. Wouldn't be surprised at all if he wins more than once next year on the PGA.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:50 Shane B.

1:50

[Comment From scottscott: ]

yeah unless you are tiger

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:50 scott

1:50

Shane B.:

Always the exception to the rule.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:50 Shane B.

1:50

Shane B.:

Except he is still a dork from Stanford.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:50 Shane B.

1:51

Shane B.:

A rich, cool dork, but a dork nonetheless.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:51 Shane B.

1:51

ryan:

Okay, what about the '96 Amateur -- Tiger vs. Steve Scott (and his girlfriend). That was better than '08 Torrey Pines, right? I'm voting YES.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:51 ryan

1:51

[Comment From scottscott: ]

i still can't believe the immediate success he had on the big boy tour

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:51 scott

1:52

Shane B.:

Wow, 1996..that was a while back, but yes, fairly amazing what Tiger did there.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:52 Shane B.

1:52

ryan:

"While back" = "I was 4"

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:52 ryan

1:52

[Comment From scottscott: ]

i vote no the tiger performance was like the jordan flu game he was struggling with health and was so clutch

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:52 scott

1:52

Shane B.:

And Scott, I agree, but the best players we've seen in the last 20 years (Mickelson and Tiger) have had success on the PGA Tour early (Mickelson won as an Am) because of their freakish talent.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:52 Shane B.

1:52

[Comment From ROBERT CROBERT C: ]

I STILL LIKE PATRICK HARRTIONS BACK TO BACK MAJORS

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:52 ROBERT C

1:52

Shane B.:

That is his new nickname.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:52 Shane B.

1:52

Shane B.:

Or what we will call him in the states.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:52 Shane B.

1:52

ryan:

Plimpics!

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:52 ryan

1:53

ryan:

Philbert won the Tucson as an Am at ASU WITH A POPPED COLLAR!

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:53 ryan

1:53

ryan:

True story.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:53 ryan

1:53

Shane B.:

and he was skinny.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:53 Shane B.

1:53

Shane B.:

and he won a HELMET!

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:53 Shane B.

1:53

ryan:

And he had a gold chain.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:53 ryan

1:55

ryan:

Once again, any mention of Lefty kills the conversational momentum...

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:55 ryan

1:55

[Comment From SahaleeSahalee: ]

what will phil do next? more commercials?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:55 Sahalee

1:55

Shane B.:

Pop it Phil.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:55 Shane B.

1:55

[Comment From scottscott: ]

i dont like him

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:55 scott

1:55

Shane B.:

You're in the right place, Scott.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:55 Shane B.

1:55

[Comment From scottscott: ]

he seems fake

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:55 scott

1:55

ryan:

Sahalee, first up, eat 12,000 calories.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:55 ryan

1:55

Shane B.:

Well, he did get implants.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:55 Shane B.

1:55

ryan:

After that, no idea.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:55 ryan

1:55

ryan:

I heard he got them removed, though.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:55 ryan

1:56

Shane B.:

Really? Interesting.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:56 Shane B.

1:56

ryan:

Word on the street.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:56 ryan

1:56

[Comment From scottscott: ]

the guys on tour dont like him either

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:56 scott

1:56

Shane B.:

FIGJAM!

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:56 Shane B.

1:56

ryan:

I'm too lazy to dig it up, but, yeah, I remembering seeing a poll of PGA players and it looked like they pretty much hated him.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:56 ryan

1:56

Shane B.:

(i can't believe i beat Ryan with the FIGJAM comment, it's his favorite saying in the world)

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:56 Shane B.

1:57

ryan:

FYI on the FIGJAM (naughty language alert)

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:57 ryan

1:57

[Comment From scottscott: ]

they seem to like tiger though he has an intersting personality with the other players

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:57 scott

1:58

ryan:

I think they're afraid of Tiger. Just ask Stephen Ames, Vijay, Monty, etc...

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:58 ryan

1:59

Shane B.:

I just think Tiger is a genuine guy.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:59 Shane B.

1:59

Shane B.:

I mean, he might not be the best guy in the world, but he seems normal and kinda funny.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:59 Shane B.

1:59

ryan:

And for as much media scrutiny as he's under, he stays out of trouble. It's pretty amazing, acutally.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 1:59 ryan

2:00

Shane B.:

I agree. Until he fails that dang drug test. Then the world will implode.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 2:00 Shane B.

2:00

[Comment From scottscott: ]

i still don't get why these super rich atheletes get in trouble all the time

Wednesday August 20, 2008 2:00 scott

2:00

[Comment From scottscott: ]

they are stupid tiger isn't

Wednesday August 20, 2008 2:00 scott

2:00

Shane B.:

Yep, they are not smart.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 2:00 Shane B.

2:00

Shane B.:

If you are going to drink, don't drive.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 2:00 Shane B.

2:00

Shane B.:

Ok, let's decide this. Who are we picking to win?

Wednesday August 20, 2008 2:00 Shane B.

2:01

Shane B.:

Anthony Kim seems to be the sexy pick, but it's hard to count out Padraig.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 2:01 Shane B.

2:01

Shane B.:

And these are the times Phil wins because, you know, it isn't a major.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 2:01 Shane B.

2:01

[Comment From scottscott: ]

i mean mattjones cant pay a guy to cut up his coke gimme a brak

Wednesday August 20, 2008 2:01 scott

2:01

[Comment From scottscott: ]

its kim in my book

Wednesday August 20, 2008 2:01 scott

2:02

Shane B.:

Also, I think taking a European like Justin Rose (hate to say that) would be a good idea because they need to play decently well to secure their postion on the Ryder Cup.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 2:02 Shane B.

2:02

[Comment From jamesjames: ]

what is wrong with phil

Wednesday August 20, 2008 2:02 james

2:02

Shane B.:

Who knows? He has about 35 coaches, so maybe that has something to do with it.

Wednesday August 20, 2008 2:02 Shane B.

2:02

[Comment From scottscott: ]

justin rose has been a super let down for me