Tuesday September 25, 2012
9:08 | Andy Hoag@SNAndyHoag ![]() Hey folks, still awaiting the beginning of opening arguments here in the #bluewtrial. Tuesday September 25, 2012 9:08 SNAndyHoag |
9:09 | All the parties are here, in a packed courtroom. All parties except Bluew, that is, who hasn't been brought into the courtroom yet. Tuesday September 25, 2012 9:09 SNAndyHoag |
9:09 | No jury yet, no judge. From the looks of it, Chief Asst Prosecutor Jeff Stroud will be, at the least, beginning the opening argument. Tuesday September 25, 2012 9:09 SNAndyHoag |
9:10 | I've yet to see Mike Thomas & Stroud work together on a trial, so I don't know if their strategy will be to combine for the opening or what. Tuesday September 25, 2012 9:10 SNAndyHoag |
9:11 | As I wrote in my MLive post, Bluew's attorney, Rod O'Farrell, has the right to reserve his opening until after prosecution's proofs. Tuesday September 25, 2012 9:11 SNAndyHoag |
9:13 | Now we're figuring out the logistics of having all the television cameramen set up. All three local TV stations are here. Tuesday September 25, 2012 9:13 SNAndyHoag |
9:13 | We will have live video of the opening argument, whenever it actually gets started. Tuesday September 25, 2012 9:13 SNAndyHoag |
9:15 | There will be a separate post on MLive for the live video. Tuesday September 25, 2012 9:15 SNAndyHoag |
9:16 | @DennisJ35301194 It'll be live on MLive when the opening arguments begin. Tuesday September 25, 2012 9:16 SNAndyHoag |
9:17 | @nboensch Nancy, I'm live now, waiting for opening arguments to begin. I'll be tweeting throughout the trial. Tuesday September 25, 2012 9:17 SNAndyHoag |
9:20 | @tvalentine75 haha, I know. Hopefully this lull as we wait will help me avoid it for the morning. Tuesday September 25, 2012 9:20 SNAndyHoag |
9:31 | @tvalentine75 Good point, sorry. "Proofs" is another word for evidence/testimony. Tuesday September 25, 2012 9:31 SNAndyHoag |
9:32 | The prosecutors have returned from speaking with Judge Jackson. O'Farrell isn't in here yet. Tuesday September 25, 2012 9:32 SNAndyHoag |
9:33 | The court recorder just walked in. That's always a good sign that we're close. Tuesday September 25, 2012 9:33 SNAndyHoag |
9:34 | Judge Jackson enters. Speaking to the public, noting the attention this trial is getting. Tuesday September 25, 2012 9:34 SNAndyHoag |
9:35 | Judge Jackson is asking us media members to go into his chambers for a "nice chat." Tuesday September 25, 2012 9:35 SNAndyHoag |
9:50 | And we're back. More logistics talk with the judge, making sure everything goes smoothly today and in the future. Tuesday September 25, 2012 9:50 SNAndyHoag |
9:50 | @tvalentine75 Not at all. Just making sure everybody's on the same page for a smooth trial. Tuesday September 25, 2012 9:50 SNAndyHoag |
9:51 | @TrayDei Very much so. There's a separate room being used for overflow. Tuesday September 25, 2012 9:51 SNAndyHoag |
9:52 | Still no sign of Bluew, but we're close. Tuesday September 25, 2012 9:52 SNAndyHoag |
9:56 | @monk1903 It'll be live on MLive as soon as the openings start. We're trying to avoid putting the feed up to watch attorneys sit and wait. Tuesday September 25, 2012 9:56 SNAndyHoag |
9:56 | When the openings begin, our live video feed will be the main post on our MLive site. Tuesday September 25, 2012 9:56 SNAndyHoag |
9:58 | @monk1903 No problem, thanks for following along! Tuesday September 25, 2012 9:58 SNAndyHoag |
10:17 | They now have set two large flatscreen TVs in the courtroom. That's new. Not sure if that's to accommodate the live feed for the overflow .. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:17 SNAndyHoag |
10:18 | .. room and use the other TV to present evidence, or what. That's just a guess. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:18 SNAndyHoag |
10:19 | @nancymerrow2 You're welcome! Thanks for following along. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:19 SNAndyHoag |
10:26 | @tvalentine75 What do you mean? We're able to cover any trial, just a matter of resources. Any trial specifically you're referring to? Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:26 SNAndyHoag |
10:27 | Remember when I said, "We're close?" That was 33 minutes ago. They're still figuring out the TVs. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:27 SNAndyHoag |
10:29 | @tvalentine75 That's right. That case was a little different because there were concerns about witnesses following the tweets when ... Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:29 SNAndyHoag |
10:30 | @tvalentine75 ... they're supposed to be sequestered. In this case, most of the witnesses are testifying based on their ... Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:30 SNAndyHoag |
10:31 | @tvalentine75 ... police reports and/or lab reports. In other words, not a lot of room for changing testimony, and if they were to ... Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:31 SNAndyHoag |
10:32 | @tvalentine75 ... change their testimony, the defense attorney would jump all over it. Just a unique case all around. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:32 SNAndyHoag |
10:33 | @skaren24 Not yet. Nothing to record yet. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:33 SNAndyHoag |
10:34 | Bluew is here. He walked in quickly, mouthed a "hi" to his family. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:34 SNAndyHoag |
10:35 | Quick matter before the jury comes in, as O'Farrell puts on the record that Bluew waived his right to be present for our meeting w/ judge. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:35 SNAndyHoag |
10:37 | Jury coming in now. Again, nine women & five men. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:37 SNAndyHoag |
10:38 | You now can go to MLive for our live feed. Should be up in seconds. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:38 SNAndyHoag |
10:39 | @Linderlou792000 You never know. I'll remain optimistic :) Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:39 SNAndyHoag |
10:39 | Stroud is giving the opening argument Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:39 SNAndyHoag |
10:39 | Stroud: "Jenny Webb was happy, she was healthy, she was having a baby." Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:39 SNAndyHoag |
10:40 | Stroud: Somebody wasn't happy about it, didn't want to pay child support. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:40 SNAndyHoag |
10:40 | Stroud: Bluew killed Webb and "made it look like something else." Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:40 SNAndyHoag |
10:41 | Good call folks, here's the link for the live feed: mlive.com/news/saginaw/i… Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:41 SNAndyHoag |
10:42 | Stroud: Webb met Bluew "years ago." Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:42 SNAndyHoag |
10:42 | Stroud: Webb saw Bluew "fairly regularly." Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:42 SNAndyHoag |
10:43 | Stroud: Roughly January 2011, "they conceived a child." Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:43 SNAndyHoag |
10:43 | Stroud: Webb filled a room in her parents' house with things for the baby. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:43 SNAndyHoag |
10:43 | Stroud: Webb "felt safe" at parents' home after her home was broken into. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:43 SNAndyHoag |
10:44 | Stroud: "All there was to do was to wait. Wait for that day" of birth. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:44 SNAndyHoag |
10:45 | Stroud: Webb "had some concerns about being a single mom, taking time off of work." Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:45 SNAndyHoag |
10:45 | Stroud: She worked at P.F. Markey, who allowed her to bank OT hours to continue getting paychecks while on maternity leave. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:45 SNAndyHoag |
10:46 | Stroud: Webb visiting friend Andrea King, told her she had to leave to go meet Bluew. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:46 SNAndyHoag |
10:46 | Stroud: "Andrea King never saw her again." Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:46 SNAndyHoag |
10:48 | Stroud: Bluew came on duty shortly after 6 p.m. Only other patrol officer on duty at time, Sara Sylvester. T. Patterson starts at 10 p.m. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:48 SNAndyHoag |
10:48 | Stroud: Bluew and Sylvester shared dinner. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:48 SNAndyHoag |
10:49 | Stroud: Bluew "looks normal" during dinner. No scratches, etc. "That's going to change." Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:49 SNAndyHoag |
10:50 | Stroud: Sylvester goes back to PD, Bluew goes back on patrol. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:50 SNAndyHoag |
10:51 | Stroud: Truck driver David Sian pulls into business near N. Outer & Hack. Video camera there, motion sensitive. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:51 SNAndyHoag |
10:51 | Stroud: On video, can see vehicle heading north on Outer. Minutes later, another car comes into view, turns in front of Sian's truck. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:51 SNAndyHoag |
10:52 | Stroud: It is a BV police car, which goes around building. Sian will say car goes north on Outer, toward Hack. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:52 SNAndyHoag |
10:53 | Stroud: With Sylvester at PD and Patterson not in yet, can only be Bluew. Bluew answers his 9 p.m. "radio check." Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:53 SNAndyHoag |
10:54 | Stroud: But for next 1 hr, 35 m, no radio contact with Bluew. For 7 minutes, starting after 10:20 p.m., Dispatch sends out alert to get attn Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:54 SNAndyHoag |
10:55 | Stroud: Sylvester contacted to call Bluew on his cell. No answer. Told to get him on another channel. "No luck." Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:55 SNAndyHoag |
10:55 | Stroud: Patterson also has no luck. Until 10:35, Bluew comes on radio, responds, says, "I was on the admin channel." Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:55 SNAndyHoag |
10:56 | Stroud: The "admin channel" was on the one Sylvester used. Patterson upset, going to find Bluew and talk to him. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:56 SNAndyHoag |
10:57 | Stroud: Patterson goes to Outer & Hack, where Bluew sometimes would go to kill time or sleep. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:57 SNAndyHoag |
10:58 | Stroud: Patterson sees a car, not a police car. "Evidence is going to show you" that Bluew and Webb met there. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:58 SNAndyHoag |
10:59 | Stroud: They had an "interaction" in a driveway that leads to BV Wastewater Treatment Plant, NW of Outer & Hack intersection. Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:59 SNAndyHoag |
10:59 | Stroud: On driveway, her blood, piece of her necklace, a Winston cigarette butt -- "the kind Ken smokes." Tuesday September 25, 2012 10:59 SNAndyHoag |
11:00 | Stroud: Webb's vehicle found at NE corner of intersection. Distance roughly 195 feet by air, 270' by foot from driveway where blood found. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:00 SNAndyHoag |
11:01 | Stroud: As he pulls up, sees another vehicle on SW side. Headlights out, spotlight on. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:01 SNAndyHoag |
11:02 | Stroud: "As Patterson gets out of his car, Ken Bluew gets out of his," "sweating profusely." Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:02 SNAndyHoag |
11:03 | Stroud: Bluew says to Patterson, "how do you wanna do this?" and "it takes Patterson back a little bit." Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:03 SNAndyHoag |
11:04 | Stroud: Patterson goes to passenger side, Bluew to driver side. Webb had vehicle for 8 years, with decals on back. Bluew walks by decals. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:04 SNAndyHoag |
11:04 | Stroud: Bluew exclaims, "We got a body," and Bluew "backs up. He backs away." Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:04 SNAndyHoag |
11:05 | Stroud: Patterson sees Webb w/ extension cord around neck, tied to roof rack. "Both of the officers know she's dead." Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:05 SNAndyHoag |
11:05 | Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:05 SNAndyHoag |
11:06 | Stroud: Sgt. Sean Waterman called. Patterson taping off scene, Bluew taking pictures. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:06 SNAndyHoag |
11:07 | Stroud: Sylvester arrives, MMR comes. Only person who goes into car is Bluew, just enough to grab purse. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:07 SNAndyHoag |
11:08 | Stroud: Bluew has told no one he knows her, that he dated her, that this "obviously pregnant woman is bearing his child." Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:08 SNAndyHoag |
11:08 | Stroud: "He's not going to share that information for a bit." Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:08 SNAndyHoag |
11:09 | Stroud: "On top of purse" is a folded piece of paper, which he opens. Typewritten note addressed "to my friends and family." Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:09 SNAndyHoag |
11:10 | Stroud: Typewritten signature from "Jenny." It's a suicide note. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:10 SNAndyHoag |
11:11 | Stroud: Sgt. Waterman arrives. In purse there also is a phone. Waterman and Patterson go through contacts -- one is "Ken Cop Boo." Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:11 SNAndyHoag |
11:12 | Stroud: When Bluew sees Webb's ID, he tells officers he knows her. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:12 SNAndyHoag |
11:12 | Stroud: Three phone contacts between Bluew & Webb since 8:30 that night. "And the defendant hasn't mentioned any of them to this point." Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:12 SNAndyHoag |
11:13 | Stroud: "Officer Patterson is getting uncomfortable. But Officer Patterson is not in charge." Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:13 SNAndyHoag |
11:14 | Stroud: Sylvester called away for another call, asks Bluew to help respond. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:14 SNAndyHoag |
11:15 | Stroud: Scene treated as suicide, Webb's body removed. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:15 SNAndyHoag |
11:16 | Stroud: Patterson has to move vehicle, to get in driver's door, has to walk "literally on the edge" of the ditch.. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:16 SNAndyHoag |
11:17 | @smh10srh hmm, I don't know. I'm not the one recording. Let me find out. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:17 SNAndyHoag |
11:18 | Stroud: If Webb actually committed suicide, would have had to get out, move pregnant, 250-pound body along that lip of the ditch, and ... Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:18 SNAndyHoag |
11:18 | ... successfully hang herself in manner it was found. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:18 SNAndyHoag |
11:19 | Stroud: Waterman goes to Webb's parents' house, informs them of suicide. They tell him father is Bluew. Waterman "got sick to his stomach." Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:19 SNAndyHoag |
11:19 | Stroud: Waterman "knew he had made a mistake." Asks to see room, "full of baby stuff." Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:19 SNAndyHoag |
11:19 | Stroud: Waterman calls then-Chief Booker, says to get MSP involved to investigate. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:19 SNAndyHoag |
11:21 | Stroud: MSP crime lab called out, "process what is left of the scene." Get Webb's vehicle and Bluew's vehicle to crime lab. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:21 SNAndyHoag |
11:22 | @smh10srh OK, glad it got figured out. It's not a perfect process yet, sorry! Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:22 SNAndyHoag |
11:22 | Stroud: Crime lab there into morning hours, where they find things in driveway that officers didn't see in dark earlier. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:22 SNAndyHoag |
11:23 | Stroud: Blood found all over Webb's car. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:23 SNAndyHoag |
11:24 | Stroud: "Fingerprint in blood" found on passenger door. Right index fingerprint "had piece of it missing." Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:24 SNAndyHoag |
11:25 | Stroud: When Bluew was fingerprinted, had piece of right index finger missing. MSP expert will testify that 'print is Bluew's. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:25 SNAndyHoag |
11:28 | Stroud: Blood stains on front, back of Webb's clothes. Blood stains found in Bluew's patrol car. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:28 SNAndyHoag |
11:28 | Stroud: Blood in car, bloody fingerprint, blood on Webb's clothes "all match the DNA profile of Kenneth Bluew." Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:28 SNAndyHoag |
11:29 | Bluew just leaned over to O'Farrell, said something briefly. O'Farrell nodded. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:29 SNAndyHoag |
11:29 | Stroud: Piece of examination glove found in Webb's clothes. Blood on inside of material matched Bluew. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:29 SNAndyHoag |
11:30 | Stroud: Blood found in driveway was Webb's. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:30 SNAndyHoag |
11:31 | Stroud: Blood on extension cord portion tied to roof rack was Bluew's. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:31 SNAndyHoag |
11:32 | Stroud: Baby -- whom Webb was going to name Braxton -- was "viable," but when "mother dies, baby dies." Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:32 SNAndyHoag |
11:33 | Stroud: ME will testify that Webb died to "vascular muscle compression," different from typical strangulation. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:33 SNAndyHoag |
11:34 | Stroud: "She died on the Wastewater Treatment driveway." Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:34 SNAndyHoag |
11:34 | Stroud: "She could not, and did not, drive her car there and hang herself." Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:34 SNAndyHoag |
11:36 | Stroud: Search warrant at Bluew's home. Multiple extension cords there, held together by "twist ties." At home, 1 twist tie found w/o cord. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:36 SNAndyHoag |
11:37 | Stroud: Bluew's computer seized, examined. Search results included strangulation, suicide, "how to die from vascular neck compression." Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:37 SNAndyHoag |
11:37 | I erred earlier in quoting Stroud as saying "vascular muscle compression." Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:37 SNAndyHoag |
11:37 | Stroud: Evidence will show Bluew knew how to apply choke holds. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:37 SNAndyHoag |
11:39 | Stroud: Lot of witnesses. "All I ask is that you absorb all you can." Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:39 SNAndyHoag |
11:39 | Stroud says Thomas will give closing argument. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:39 SNAndyHoag |
11:39 | O'Farrell elects to give his opening argument now. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:39 SNAndyHoag |
11:41 | O'Farrell explains to jury that he's seen police reports, other discovery materials. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:41 SNAndyHoag |
11:41 | O'Farrell asks jurors to listen closely to evidence, says opening arguments not evidence. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:41 SNAndyHoag |
11:41 | O'Farrell: Listen closely to details, don't jump to conclusions because of tragedy of Webb's death. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:41 SNAndyHoag |
11:42 | O'Farrell says he won't go over all details he feels contradict Stroud's statements. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:42 SNAndyHoag |
11:42 | @foxone1 Just openings and closings. I'll be live tweeting the whole trial, though. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:42 SNAndyHoag |
11:44 | O'Farrell talking about how Webb was hanging. Cord was taut but Webb didn't move far when cord cut, so assumption is she didn't hang self. Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:44 SNAndyHoag |
11:46 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:46 Mark Tower |
11:47 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:47 Andy Hoag |
11:48 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:48 Andy Hoag |
11:48 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:48 Andy Hoag |
11:49 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:49 Andy Hoag |
11:50 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:50 Andy Hoag |
11:51 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:51 Andy Hoag |
11:52 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:52 Andy Hoag |
11:53 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:53 Andy Hoag |
11:54 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:54 Andy Hoag |
11:55 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:55 Andy Hoag |
11:56 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:56 Andy Hoag |
11:57 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:57 Andy Hoag |
11:58 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:58 Andy Hoag |
11:58 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:58 Andy Hoag |
11:59 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:59 Andy Hoag |
11:59 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 11:59 Andy Hoag |
12:01 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 12:01 Andy Hoag |
12:01 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 12:01 Andy Hoag |
12:02 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 12:02 Andy Hoag |
12:04 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 12:04 Andy Hoag |
12:04 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 12:04 Andy Hoag |
12:05 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 12:05 Andy Hoag |
12:06 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 12:06 Andy Hoag |
12:06 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 12:06 Andy Hoag |
12:06 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 12:06 Andy Hoag |
12:07 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 12:07 Andy Hoag |
12:07 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 12:07 Andy Hoag |
12:09 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 12:09 Andy Hoag |
12:09 |
Tuesday September 25, 2012 12:09 Andy Hoag |
12:10 | For those following me on Twitter and not on MLive, I've reached my limit. You can go to MLIve to see my tweets. Tuesday September 25, 2012 12:10 SNAndyHoag |
12:10 | I'm out of Twitter jail! See y'all at 1:30. Tuesday September 25, 2012 12:10 SNAndyHoag |
12:17 | @jencielma Hey Jen! No problem. I don't imagine I'll be tweeting at such a rapid pace for testimony, so I should be able to avoid jail. Tuesday September 25, 2012 12:17 SNAndyHoag |
12:18 | @tvalentine75 ha, I know! You called it. I wish Twitter gave some kind of indication at least when you get close. Oh well. Tuesday September 25, 2012 12:18 SNAndyHoag |
12:32 | @tvalentine75 Good to know, thanks! Tuesday September 25, 2012 12:32 SNAndyHoag |
12:36 | @tvalentine75 That's a strategy I was thinking of doing. I'm going through them now for a post on MLive and am realizing how short some are. Tuesday September 25, 2012 12:36 SNAndyHoag |
12:40 | @tvalentine75 ha, for sure. Thanks. Tuesday September 25, 2012 12:40 SNAndyHoag |
1:16 | Here's my recap of this morning's opening arguments: mlive.com/news/saginaw/i… Tuesday September 25, 2012 1:16 SNAndyHoag |
1:39 | Alright, we're all back in the courtroom, packed like sardines. Waiting on things to get started here. Tuesday September 25, 2012 1:39 SNAndyHoag |
1:51 | Our first witness, just as it was during the preliminary hearing: Andrea King, Webb's friend. Tuesday September 25, 2012 1:51 SNAndyHoag |
1:51 | King knew Webb for 12 years: "She was my best friend." Tuesday September 25, 2012 1:51 SNAndyHoag |
1:53 | King: Webb was "like a sister to me." She gets emotional as Mike Thomas shows her a picture of Webb, wearing the aforementioned necklace. Tuesday September 25, 2012 1:53 SNAndyHoag |
1:54 | Thomas shows Webb's purse to King. She says she recognizes it "because I liked it." Inside, a camera Webb had just purchased that day. Tuesday September 25, 2012 1:54 SNAndyHoag |
1:56 | Webb came to King's home that evening, as she did just about every day. Webb "loved" King's newborn twins. Tuesday September 25, 2012 1:56 SNAndyHoag |
1:58 | King: Webb "couldn't wait to be a mom." They spoke about motherhood. Ate dinner together that night, and Webb didn't appear depressed. Tuesday September 25, 2012 1:58 SNAndyHoag |
1:58 | King: Webb never spoke about suicide, or that she had let somebody down, or that she was afraid to have the baby. Tuesday September 25, 2012 1:58 SNAndyHoag |
1:59 | Folks, no live video for testimony. There will be for closing arguments. Tuesday September 25, 2012 1:59 SNAndyHoag |
2:00 | King: Webb told her that Bluew was the father of the child, that he worked at BVPD. Webb said she was going to put Bluew's name ... Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:00 SNAndyHoag |
2:00 | ... on birth certificate, that she wanted son to her know her father. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:00 SNAndyHoag |
2:04 | King: Webb said she had to "go see Ken" on her way home, said she was going to see him on Outer Drive. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:04 SNAndyHoag |
2:06 | King: Webb "loved her job," at PF Markey, had been banking hours there to continue getting paid during maternity leave. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:06 SNAndyHoag |
2:08 | King: Webb said Bluew visited her at Webb's old home in the city multiple times. Webb told her that night that Bluew was on duty. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:08 SNAndyHoag |
2:12 | King: Webb had an appointment scheduled for the next morning with her doctor. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:12 SNAndyHoag |
2:13 | O'Farrell up for cross examination now. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:13 SNAndyHoag |
2:15 | King: not aware of Webb having any high blood pressure issues. O'Farrell asks King about her knowledge of 2 other men. King knew 1. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:15 SNAndyHoag |
2:18 | King: Webb forwarded to her a text message that Bluew sent to her. O'Farrell asking King about a statement she gave to police. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:18 SNAndyHoag |
2:19 | Statement was that she never saw text messages between the two, King clarifies what she meant was not on the phone. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:19 SNAndyHoag |
2:23 | King received a text that night from Webb's sister wondering where Webb was. A police report states that she replied that Webb left about 9. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:23 SNAndyHoag |
2:25 | Time frame that Webb left could be a key argument for the defense relative to a police car seen in the Outer/Hack area. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:25 SNAndyHoag |
2:26 | King says she remembers talking with Webb that night about how it was only 8:15 pm and it was dark already. Says Webb left 10-15 min later. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:26 SNAndyHoag |
2:27 | As Thomas points out, the just-mentioned police report was about a statement from Webb's sister, not from King. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:27 SNAndyHoag |
2:28 | The text that Webb sent to King was from Bluew asking, "How's my little man today?" That was Braxton's nickname, King says. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:28 SNAndyHoag |
2:30 | King: Webb told her that she and Bluew spoke of just exchanging money in lieu of child support, but Webb felt that wasn't a good idea ... Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:30 SNAndyHoag |
2:30 | ... because if Bluew got a job elsewhere, she wouldn't have an avenue to get child support. Wanted name on birth certificate instead. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:30 SNAndyHoag |
2:32 | O'Farrell begins an accusation of sorts that King changed story from her text to Webb's sister to her testimony because she knew Webb died. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:32 SNAndyHoag |
2:32 | King acknowledges she knew Webb died when she testified at preliminary hearing and now. O'Farrell doesn't pursue it further. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:32 SNAndyHoag |
2:33 | Next witness: James Ahrenberg, manager of a USA Today warehouse on North Outer. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:33 SNAndyHoag |
2:34 | Contacted by MSP re: outdoor cameras. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:34 SNAndyHoag |
2:37 | Ahrenberg: 2 cameras on south end of property, pointed in north direction. Motion activated, doesn't record when no motion around. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:37 SNAndyHoag |
2:39 | We're going to see the camera footage that Stroud eluded to during his opening argument. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:39 SNAndyHoag |
2:45 | OK, I guess we're not going to see the footage. Ahrenberg explained what each camera angle shows. One angle shows portion of Outer Drive. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:45 SNAndyHoag |
2:45 | @flab2fabmom You're welcome! Thank you. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:45 SNAndyHoag |
2:48 | O'Farrell on cross-examination. Ahrenberg says timestamp on camera that shows Outer Drive was 8 minutes fast. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:48 SNAndyHoag |
2:49 | Ahrenberg not aware of a "pattern" of BVPD patrolling area, but has seen BVPD cars in area. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:49 SNAndyHoag |
2:49 | @Triciaann107 Sorry, should have clarified that. I'm assuming we'll see the footage when a different witness testifies, likely ... Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:49 SNAndyHoag |
2:50 | @Triciaann107 ... the MSP detective that Ahrenberg handed the footage over to. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:50 SNAndyHoag |
2:50 | @Ashley_Beyer Consuming my day, too :) Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:50 SNAndyHoag |
2:52 | O'Farrell done with his questioning, and Mr. Ahrenberg is done. Next up: David Sian, the truck driver who saw a BVPD car in area. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:52 SNAndyHoag |
2:54 | Company Sian worked for had terminal on Outer Drive. Gets there about 8 p.m., leaves about 9 p.m. from terminal. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:54 SNAndyHoag |
2:56 | @KirstenWhitlock Nothing for sure. I'm expecting more than a week, at least. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:56 SNAndyHoag |
2:56 | The terminal is in the same building, or industrial park at least, as the USA Today warehouse. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:56 SNAndyHoag |
2:58 | Sian saw BVPD car came from the south, turned into "Freeway Lane," the entrance to the industrial park. Turned into terminal parking lot. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:58 SNAndyHoag |
2:59 | Sian: "Too dark" to see into car. It exited lot, "went up the hill" to the "tire center," came back down, turned right (north) onto Outer. Tuesday September 25, 2012 2:59 SNAndyHoag |
3:01 | Sian left about 5-10 minutes later, didn't see car come back down Outer before leaving. Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:01 SNAndyHoag |
3:05 | We now are watching a portion of the footage from the camera, and Sian says his truck is visible. It's dark, so not much else visible. Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:05 SNAndyHoag |
3:05 | Stroud has to rewind the footage, looks like he fast forwarded too far. Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:05 SNAndyHoag |
3:08 | Stroud gets to the point where Sian pulls up, A vehicle is visible headed north on Outer. Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:08 SNAndyHoag |
3:13 | About 8:52 (with 8 min advance factored in) police car comes into lot, drives by Sian's truck. Sian points the car out as it turns on Outer. Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:13 SNAndyHoag |
3:13 | @alyssajoystroud I've seen other prosecutors struggle worse :) Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:13 SNAndyHoag |
3:14 | Stroud has Sian reiterate that he didn't see BVPD car come back. Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:14 SNAndyHoag |
3:16 | O'Farrell now questioning Sian. Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:16 SNAndyHoag |
3:17 | @tvalentine75 haha thanks, I'm keeping a mindful eye on it! Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:17 SNAndyHoag |
3:19 | Sian: BVPD car coming into lot, turning north onto Outer Drive was a normal procedure. Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:19 SNAndyHoag |
3:21 | On re-direct from Stroud, Sian admits he doesn't know if it's normal for BVPD, just what he normally saw. Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:21 SNAndyHoag |
3:23 | Next witness: MSP D/Sgt. Kellee Robinson, who obtained camera footage from Ahrenberg. Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:23 SNAndyHoag |
3:26 | Robinson: Watched footage from 8 p.m. to midnight. Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:26 SNAndyHoag |
3:31 | Among things Robinson made note of: Sian pulling up & a vehicle headed north on Outer at 8:57; vehicle pulls onto Freeway Lane at 8:59; ... Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:31 SNAndyHoag |
3:32 | 9 p.m., vehicle pulls into lot (BVPD car Sian testified to); 9:02, car pulls north onto Outer. Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:32 SNAndyHoag |
3:33 | Robinson was asked to take computers and phones to MSP computer crimes unit in Lansing. Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:33 SNAndyHoag |
3:35 | That last bit was likely just for chain of evidence purposes, to show how computers and phones got from Bluew's home and other places ... Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:35 SNAndyHoag |
3:35 | ... to Lansing for examination Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:35 SNAndyHoag |
3:36 | O'Farrell now questioning. Robinson says there was other activity other than what I mentioned ... Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:36 SNAndyHoag |
3:37 | possibly including vehicles heading south on Outer. Robinson can't say if those vehicles went to or came from Wastewater Treatment plant. Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:37 SNAndyHoag |
3:38 | @judyblue1202 hey Judy, we only did it for openings. With more people asking for it, we may change course and do it more thru trial. Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:38 SNAndyHoag |
3:39 | Nothing further for Robinson. Taking a recess. Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:39 SNAndyHoag |
3:49 | @dorymsbs It wasn't mentioned. They're typically about 15 minutes. Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:49 SNAndyHoag |
3:49 | @GeneNoack @judyblue1202 We're quickly learning that it is in demand. We're looking into what we can do. Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:49 SNAndyHoag |
3:50 | @tvalentine75 And the recess will help, too! Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:50 SNAndyHoag |
3:57 | @jpstone_ This is true, but part of the problem is that you don't know you're about to go to jail ... until you do and ... Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:57 SNAndyHoag |
3:58 | @jpstone_ ... can't tell your followers where to find your stuff. There were a lot of people reading on MLive, though, so it still got out. Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:58 SNAndyHoag |
3:58 | @nancymerrow2 You're welcome, thank you! Tuesday September 25, 2012 3:58 SNAndyHoag |
4:04 | Patterson and Bluew worked together at the county Juvenile Center. Patterson was a supervisor of Bluew, who was just out of college. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:04 SNAndyHoag |
4:05 | Bluew already employed by BVPD when Patterson came in '05. Patterson doesn't mention Bluew's stint as Titt. Twp. police chief. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:05 SNAndyHoag |
4:06 | In '05, Bluew was a Pressure Points Control Tactics (PPCT) instructor, way of subduing somebody w/ bare hands. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:06 SNAndyHoag |
4:08 | Patterson came in at 10 p.m. on night in question, spoke w/ Sylvester, who was at PD working on reports. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:08 SNAndyHoag |
4:09 | Responded to a quick call on North 29th, and Central Dispatch started "radio checks." Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:09 SNAndyHoag |
4:12 | Patterson heard Dispatch radio for Bluew, who didn't respond. Dispatch checked everyone else, came back to Bluew "shortly after" 10:20 p.m. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:12 SNAndyHoag |
4:13 | Patterson: Bluew didn't respond again. Dispatch asked Ofc. Sylvester to try Bluew by cell. To Patterson's knowledge, got no response. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:13 SNAndyHoag |
4:14 | Patterson: Either he or Sylvester, or both, tried to reach Bluew on an "admin" channel, private for BVPD. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:14 SNAndyHoag |
4:16 | Patterson: No response again. Patterson sent an audible alarm/text msg to Bluew's in-car computer that Dispatch was trying to reach him. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:16 SNAndyHoag |
4:17 | Patterson: The alarm won't shut off until somebody touches their computer to shut it off. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:17 SNAndyHoag |
4:19 | Patterson: Bluew didn't respond again, Patterson heard Sylvester say she couldn't reach Bluew by cell. Patterson asked Dispatch to ... Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:19 SNAndyHoag |
4:19 | ... send out a different audible alarm, which goes across the county. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:19 SNAndyHoag |
4:22 | Patterson: No response again, and nobody knew where Bluew was. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:22 SNAndyHoag |
4:23 | Patterson: Was on Wolf north of E. Washington, ended up on westbound Hack, heard Bluew radio Sylvester on "admin" channel. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:23 SNAndyHoag |
4:24 | Patterson: Bluew said he was on "admin" channel and didn't hear alerts. Bluew radioed to Dispatch that he was OK, didn't say where he was. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:24 SNAndyHoag |
4:25 | Patterson drove to Washington and Outer, headed north to Freeway Lane, checked area. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:25 SNAndyHoag |
4:26 | Thomas shows Bluew's "daily" report, which states that from 9:15-9:45, he was in "north numbered streets." Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:26 SNAndyHoag |
4:27 | From then until 10:30, at Outer and Washington performing stationary radar, according to Bluew's "daily." Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:27 SNAndyHoag |
4:29 | From 10:30-10:54, "daily" states that he was north of M-81 in streets off Outer and at Freeway Lane. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:29 SNAndyHoag |
4:29 | Patterson did property check on Freeway Lane from 10:48-10:51, he says. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:29 SNAndyHoag |
4:30 | Patterson headed north on Outer to Hack, knew Bluew had been sleeping on job before when not responding to radio checks. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:30 SNAndyHoag |
4:30 | Patterson: Wanted to talk to Bluew about sleeping on job, "because he's my friend, and it was getting old." Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:30 SNAndyHoag |
4:32 | Patterson describes intersection of Outer and Hack, where Outer comes to a "T." To the right, entrance to area used by BVPD for gun range. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:32 SNAndyHoag |
4:33 | To the left, fenced-off GM property and a driveway to Wastewater Treatment plant. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:33 SNAndyHoag |
4:33 | Patterson traveled about 100 yds before seeing reflector lights from vehicle just to right of intersection. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:33 SNAndyHoag |
4:34 | Patterson: Vehicle was facing east, close to gateway to gun range. Patterson stopped at southeast corner. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:34 SNAndyHoag |
4:36 | Thomas gave Patterson some car-shaped stickers to put on a large-scale map, to show where Webb's vehicle was and where he parked. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:36 SNAndyHoag |
4:39 | Patterson: Just before he stopped, looked to left, saw Bluew's vehicle, also facing east, but parked behind some trees. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:39 SNAndyHoag |
4:40 | Patterson: No headlights on, but spotlight on driver's side on. Could tell it was Bluew's car, and Bluew pulled up about a car length. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:40 SNAndyHoag |
4:41 | Patterson: Bluew had turned headlights on by this point and pulled into middle of intersection. Patterson exits vehicle and ... Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:41 SNAndyHoag |
4:42 | ... "within seconds" Bluew exited his vehicle, asked, "How do you want to do this," as in, how he wanted to approach the vehicle. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:42 SNAndyHoag |
4:42 | Patterson: They approached vehicle, and Bluew was "sweating bullets." Patterson looked in windows, Bluew said, "there's a body." Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:42 SNAndyHoag |
4:43 | Patterson: Could only see something hanging from vehicle, couldn't tell it was a body. Patterson came around and saw Webb's upper torso ... Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:43 SNAndyHoag |
4:44 | ... in ditch, and it looked like something was sticking out of her neck, which actually was the extension cord. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:44 SNAndyHoag |
4:45 | Thomas shows Patterson the pictures of Webb hanging from vehicle. Patterson called Dispatch with a "possible code 49," or suicide. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:45 SNAndyHoag |
4:46 | Patterson: Bluew "looked out of character," nervous and uneasy. They had talked in past about gruesome scenes they had seen. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:46 SNAndyHoag |
4:47 | Patterson: Noticed Bluew had a "red spot" in his eye, "which was odd." Patterson called for MMR to confirm she was deceased. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:47 SNAndyHoag |
4:48 | Patterson: Called Sgt. Waterman, who said he wanted scene taped off and for photos to be taken. Patterson grabbed the tape. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:48 SNAndyHoag |
4:50 | @nancymerrow2 Good question, but they haven't shown the photos yet in court. The family has heard this stuff before, not sure if ... Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:50 SNAndyHoag |
4:50 | @nancymerrow2 ... they've seen the photos or not. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:50 SNAndyHoag |
4:50 | Patterson: Vehicle was registered to Donald Webb, Jenny Webb's father. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:50 SNAndyHoag |
4:51 | Patterson: Observed Bluew taking pictures w/ Sylvester observing. Didn't see him enter vehicle. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:51 SNAndyHoag |
4:52 | Patterson: Minutes later, approached vehicle w/ Bluew & Sylvester and Bluew showed him suicide note, placed it on hood of Aztek. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:52 SNAndyHoag |
4:55 | Patterson: At some point, Sylvester showed him ID of Webb. Patterson was told that Bluew removed it from her purse. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:55 SNAndyHoag |
4:55 | Patterson: "He never told me at the scene who it was." Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:55 SNAndyHoag |
4:56 | Patterson: First time he heard Bluew mention that he knew her was when Bluew was talking to Waterman. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:56 SNAndyHoag |
4:58 | Patterson: Relayed info to Waterman that he got from Sylvester that Bluew might have known Webb. Tuesday September 25, 2012 4:58 SNAndyHoag |
5:01 | Patterson: He and Waterman discovered Webb's phone, they unlocked phone, Waterman opened recent call log. Tuesday September 25, 2012 5:01 SNAndyHoag |
5:02 | Patterson: Recent calls were from "Ken Cop Boo." Didn't recognize phone number, but recognized "what I thought it meant," that it was Bluew. Tuesday September 25, 2012 5:02 SNAndyHoag |
5:03 | Patterson: Waterman recognized phone number, asked Bluew why he had called Webb. O'Farrell asks for a bench conference. Tuesday September 25, 2012 5:03 SNAndyHoag |
5:03 | Thought it might be in relation to the time, and it was. We're breaking for the day. Tuesday September 25, 2012 5:03 SNAndyHoag |
5:04 | And we'll return at 9 a.m. tomorrow. Tuesday September 25, 2012 5:04 SNAndyHoag |
5:05 | I'm going to close to MLive chat window. Anybody with questions can either post a comment on that post or tweet at me. Thanks for following. Tuesday September 25, 2012 5:05 SNAndyHoag |



