Dr.Boone, Campus Leadership - Student Activities and Activity Accounts
7:45
Coach Norm: 
Campus Improvement plan assignment - Due July 29th.

No prescibed format.

Consult your AEIS for your school.

Campus Improvement Plan - should reflect improvement based on correlation to AEIS data. If it does not, how does it not.   How would you change the CIP?

Dr. Boone gave us the legal citations for CIP.


Wednesday July 23, 2008 7:45 Coach Norm
7:49
Coach Norm: 
Changing schedule for the classes.

Assistant Principal panel may not happen.  

Looking at alternatives
Wednesday July 23, 2008 7:49 Coach Norm
7:54
Coach Norm: 
Chapter in School Law that contains School Discipline is Chapter 37 of Texas Education Code.
Wednesday July 23, 2008 7:54 Coach Norm
7:56
Coach Norm: 
You will spend a great deal of time with Student Discipline.

Know what you campus discipline plan is.

Wednesday July 23, 2008 7:56 Coach Norm
7:56
Coach Norm: 
Know what the district policy is.
Wednesday July 23, 2008 7:56 Coach Norm
7:56
Coach Norm: 
Know what is happening in the courts.
Wednesday July 23, 2008 7:56 Coach Norm
7:57
Coach Norm: 
Join   TASSP or TESSP now.  

Strong member oriented organizations.  

Provide a strong network.  

Great sources of information.
Wednesday July 23, 2008 7:57 Coach Norm
7:58
Coach Norm: 
Know the law,
Know your district plan
Know you campus plan
Affiliate with professional organization

and
Think about what you will do.   Begin to think about you are going to deal with situations.

Wednesday July 23, 2008 7:58 Coach Norm
8:01
Coach Norm: 
Middle school students are different.
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:01 Coach Norm
8:02
[Comment From Over HereOver Here: ] 
Very
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:02 Over Here
8:04
[Comment From BeadoBeado: ] 
Relationships are very important wehn being an AP
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:04 Beado
8:05
Coach Norm: 
Alot of kids, especially high school, are bringing alot of baggage to school with them.

This baggage impacts their behavior in class.
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:05 Coach Norm
8:09
Coach Norm: 
As an administrator, you will be dealing with stories second hand.   This creates difficulties in getting thru to the truth. You also have to represent so many different parties.  
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:09 Coach Norm
8:15
Coach Norm: 
Story of who called the wrong parents.
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:15 Coach Norm
8:17
Coach Norm: 
How do you balance instructional side with the discipline?
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:17 Coach Norm
8:18
Coach Norm: 
Balance of building relationships with students vs.   teachers.  


Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:18 Coach Norm
8:18
[Comment From alexalex: ] 
Not all students can be disciplined in the same manner, there are hidden circumstances that are at play--# of students at Alternative Placement, SpeEd. serviced, teacher's reputation of having poor discipline or unrealistic expectations within classroom...
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:18 alex
8:19
Coach Norm: 
why do you think discipline is so important to teachers?
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:19 Coach Norm
8:19
Coach Norm: 
Clasroom management is a key factor to discipline.  
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:19 Coach Norm
8:21
Coach Norm: 
How many referrals you get from teachers is different.   Adminstrators must pay attention to the number of referrals you get from a teacher.


Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:21 Coach Norm
8:22
Coach Norm: 
Depending on who the referrals comes from is a key to help you decide whether to get the kids story or not.

Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:22 Coach Norm
8:22
alex: 
There's much more of a global issue involved--literature compares it to prison system. American students are required to be at school by law--they are not there by choice. Offers much more complicated aspects to discipline.....
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:22 alex
8:27
alex: 
Fine
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:27 alex
8:27
alex: 
Fine
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:27 alex
8:27
alex: 
Fine
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:27 alex
8:27
alex: 
having
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:27 alex
8:27
alex: 
it
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:27 alex
8:28
alex: 
whywontitletmehitspacebutton?
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:28 alex
8:28
alex: 
norm
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:28 alex
8:29
Beto: 
i can space... it likes me..
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:29 Beto
8:29
Coach Norm: 
it must be   a guy thing!
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:29 Coach Norm
8:29
Coach Norm: 
Discussion about comparing school system with prison system from the article.  

Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:29 Coach Norm
8:30
alex: 
okay, it's fixed. good idea. sorry about the technical difficulties.
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:30 alex
8:32
Coach Norm: 
do we school students to long?  
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:32 Coach Norm
8:33
Coach Norm: 
we postpone adoloscence by forcing schooling thru 12th grade.
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:33 Coach Norm
8:33
Coach Norm: 
12th grade is a product of the great depression.
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:33 Coach Norm
8:34
Beto: 
Schooling up to age 17-18 is perfect in my opinion... the senior year many times can serve as an exploratory year where they can focus on their future plans while finishing up what they still need
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:34 Beto
8:34
Beto: 
alot of the less motivated students dont get to 12th grade
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:34 Beto
8:35
alex: 
How do we fit into the standard of K-12 education knowing that it might be too long, they do not have choices, etc.? Make learning fun? How do we do this under Texas' standard of accountability and with limited funds and resources?
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:35 alex
8:35
Coach Norm: 
High school is worst part of the educational system is USA according to professor.
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:35 Coach Norm
8:37
Beto: 
Question to professor; What has changed the most in your career? Elementarty, Middle School, or High School
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:37 Beto
8:37
[Comment From IkeIke: ] 
Boone says: High School has changed the most during his career (not in instruction but in terms of children...they are way different)
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:37 Ike
8:39
Coach Norm: 
High school teachers have the most difficult job in the system.   Almost impossible
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:39 Coach Norm
8:39
Beto: 
Who is the most resistant to change?
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:39 Beto
8:39
Coach Norm: 
High school teachers are the most resistant to change.  
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:39 Coach Norm
8:42
Coach Norm: 
Relationship change with teachers as AP is almost immediately.

Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:42 Coach Norm
8:44
Coach Norm: 
Going to the dark side - negative ideas or comments.  


Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:44 Coach Norm
8:44
Coach Norm: 
Many look at adminstration as not supportive but managerial.

Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:44 Coach Norm
8:47
Ike: 
in response to Alex's question: I think the only way to effectively uphold our education system is through comprehensive efforts to build a sense of community through meaningful relationships between all stakeholders...children are gaining more and more power as time goes on from a legal aspect to research discussing their needs and how we need to reach them to their desire for autonomy that society/parents apparently feels obligated to respect...We can learn a lot from children, but we as adults are the ones with the cognitive ability and responsibility to ensure the success and growth of future generations...Especially in today's generation, we really need to focus as a community addressing the needs and issues we face through our children
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:47 Ike
8:49
Coach Norm: 
@Ike, Community and relationships is so key I think.    

Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:49 Coach Norm
8:51
Coach Norm: 
More veteran teachers are most often the one that gave me the negative comments, but younger teachers tend to be more positive in response to my pursuing my masters and admin degree.
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:51 Coach Norm
8:54
Coach Norm: 
What is the source of these negative comments?  

regret
loosing someone from the classroom
leaving instruction to become the "dark side"
veteran teachers feel that there is more honor in being a teacher.


Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:54 Coach Norm
8:55
Coach Norm: 
the most opposition often comes from the fringe teachers. (comment from a student)
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:55 Coach Norm
8:56
Coach Norm: 
Albert Shankard - educational statesman - early organization of American Federation of Teachers.  
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:56 Coach Norm
8:56
Beto: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Shanker
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:56 Beto
8:57
Coach Norm: 
AFT was blatantly a union.   They admitted it.   NEA rather did not call themselves a union.
Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:57 Coach Norm
8:57
Coach Norm: 
Thanks Beto.

Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:57 Coach Norm
8:58
Coach Norm: 
Strength of the group.

Wednesday July 23, 2008 8:58 Coach Norm
9:01
[Be Right Back Countdown]5 minutes 
Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:01 
9:21
Beto: 
Due Process
Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:21 Beto
9:21
Coach Norm: 
What is due process?  

Fair and equal treatment.
Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:21 Coach Norm
9:21
Coach Norm: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Due_process
Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:21 Coach Norm
9:22
Coach Norm: 
Why are we required to give due process?  
Constitutional law - a person should be giving life, liberty and property without due process.
Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:22 Coach Norm
9:23
Coach Norm: 
Not everyone receives due process.
Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:23 Coach Norm
9:27
Coach Norm: 
Administrative disease called terminal stupidity.   Evidently there is no cure for it.   You do not realize when you have it.

Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:27 Coach Norm
9:31
Coach Norm: 
What constitutes due process?  
1.   Notice - rules have to be public.
2.   Story - Student has the right to present his side of the story.
3.   Decision - An action based upon the facts is made
4.   Appeal - right to appeal   any decision to a third party.


Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:31 Coach Norm
9:32
Coach Norm: 
Greivance Policy of the district

Level 1 - campus
Level 2 - supt. office
Level 3 - school board


Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:32 Coach Norm
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Coach Norm: 
Right to appeal to a neutral third party is to evaluate if the santion was justified.
Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:33 Coach Norm
9:34
Coach Norm: 
a student has the right to an attorney present in an appeal hearing.
Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:34 Coach Norm
9:35
Coach Norm: 
This process is cumbersome due to the justifiable nature of it.
Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:35 Coach Norm
9:36
Coach Norm: 
rights,

Told you violate a rule,
present his story
facts will be gathered
decision based on facts.
right to appeal.



Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:36 Coach Norm
9:37
alex: 
Off topic but...he knows my full name, does that cut deep Berto? ,-)
Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:37 alex
9:38
Coach Norm: 
I thought it was Burto?
Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:38 Coach Norm
9:38
[Comment From BetoBeto: ] 
its BEADO... THANK YOU
Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:38 Beto
9:40
alex: 
When Chuck Norris does a push-up, he doesn't push himself up, he pushes the Earth down.
Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:40 alex
9:40
Beto: 
i accidently left and came back...
Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:40 Beto
9:40
alex: 
that was owen via alex
Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:40 alex
9:40
Coach Norm: 
The term used to describe workers who are obstinately opposed to the introduction of NEW TECHNOLOGY into their workplace. ...
www.questia.com/PM.qst
Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:40 Coach Norm
9:41
Beto: 
chick norris loves to donate blood...
Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:41 Beto
9:41
Beto: 
but not his
Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:41 Beto
9:41
Coach Norm: 
The   earth succombs to his dominance.  
Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:41 Coach Norm
9:41
alex: 
Luddite
Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:41 alex
9:41
Coach Norm: 
yes to Alex.
Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:41 Coach Norm
9:42
alex: 
American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This Lud·dite Audio Help (lŭd'īt) Pronunciation Key n. Any of a group of British workers who between 1811 and 1816 rioted and destroyed laborsaving textile machinery in the belief that such machinery would diminish employment. One who opposes technical or technological change.
Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:42 alex
9:45
Coach Norm: 
Looked at Student Handbook example from Dripping Springs

Class discussion over After School Suspension.     Lots of great comments about the program, best of which was Mikes about going to program for a short time.

Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:45 Coach Norm
9:46
Beto: 
I love how you formalize an otherwise.... immature conversation
Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:46 Beto
9:47
Coach Norm: 
DAEP - Disciplinary alternative education placement or program.

Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:47 Coach Norm
9:47
alex: 
ditto Buttto
Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:47 alex
9:48
Coach Norm: 
ATPE - Student Discipline in Texas Public Schools.

http://www.atpe.org/protection/workingwithothers/studdisc.asp

Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:48 Coach Norm
9:49
Coach Norm: 
@Alex and @Beto,   learning can even occur in immature conversations.  

Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:49 Coach Norm
9:51
Coach Norm: 
What if an administration does not follow the required mandatory DAEP placement?


Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:51 Coach Norm
9:55
Coach Norm: 
new DAEP standards coming out this year.  

Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:55 Coach Norm
9:59
alex: 
New STATE regulations--students must recieve a pre and post test (BM) on DAEP placement. How does this mirror the increasing focus on accountability in our state? Test him, son!
Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:59 alex
10:00
Coach Norm: 
What offenses require mandatory expulsion?

Wednesday July 23, 2008 10:00 Coach Norm
10:04
Coach Norm: 
-Firearms and weapons
-aggravated assault, sexual assualt, arson, murder, indecency with a child or -aggravated kidnapping
-felony offenses involving illegal drugs or alcohol
-aggravated robbery
-manslaughter
-criminally negligent homicide
-any of the above committed in retaliation against a school employee, on or off campus.
Wednesday July 23, 2008 10:04 Coach Norm
10:04



 
 
 
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