Indiana and North Carolina

(05/06/2008)

7:00

Jay:

Polls have closed in Indiana. Its early, but Hillary has the lead there right now.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:00 Jay

7:01

Big Dog:

Early exit polls in NC show Obama a big winner

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:01 Big Dog

7:01

Jay:

Fun stuff. Lots of pundits saying NC will be a blowout for Obama.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:01 Jay

7:02

Big Dog:

His lead shrunk over the past few weeks but he seems to have rebounded

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:02 Big Dog

7:03

[Comment From BigDaddyBigDaddy: ]

Exit polls were way wrong in PA. Who knows what will happen tonight

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:03 BigDaddy

7:04

[Comment From MilesMiles: ]

What the hell do people actually see in Obama? The mayor of my town is all for Obama, saying he'll bring "needed change" to the country. Are Obama supporters on drugs?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:04 Miles

7:04

[Comment From MilesMiles: ]

Prozac, to be exact?!?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:04 Miles

7:07

Jay:

I don't see what people see either. I see what some are obviously blind to though.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:07 Jay

7:07

BigDaddy:

Has anyone looked at last week's Newsweek? 4 articles on Obama. 3 claimed that people are turning on him because of racism.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:07 BigDaddy

7:08

BigDaddy:

It concerns me greatly, what if he is elected? Then any criticism is going to be considered "racist"?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:08 BigDaddy

7:08

Jay:

He seems to go up and down in the polls like a yo yo.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:08 Jay

7:08

Jay:

Surely the American people aren't stupid enough to elect him.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:08 Jay

7:08

[Comment From Right TruthRight Truth: ]

Obama has been hurt bad, YIPPIE.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:08 Right Truth

7:08

Big Dog:

don't say "YO YO" about Obama or they will call you a racist

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:08 Big Dog

7:10

[Comment From Right TruthRight Truth: ]

We're called racists anyway. If we are against illegal aliens, we're racist. If we are against Islamic terrorists, we are racist (even though Islam isn't a race)

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:10 Right Truth

7:10

Big Dog:

RT, you Xenophobe

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:10 Big Dog

7:10

Right Truth:

And proud of it

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:10 Right Truth

7:10

Miles:

Jay, do you think Obama would be more of a contender against McCain than Hillary? Some of my friends think so, but I don't, to be honest.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:10 Miles

7:11

Right Truth:

No mention of Rush Limbaugh's Operation Caos yet?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:11 Right Truth

7:11

Big Dog:

Obama seems to poll better than Hillary against McCain but this is early

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:11 Big Dog

7:12

Jay:

I've said it many times, Obama will be easier to beat in the general.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:12 Jay

7:12

Jay:

People won't be stupid enough to vote a racist, terrorist friend into the presidency.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:12 Jay

7:12

Right Truth:

I agree with Jay. Obama is easier to beat, but I believe McCain with all his faults, can beat either one of them.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:12 Right Truth

7:13

Miles:

That's what I think.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:13 Miles

7:13

Miles:

...or at least HOPE! Oh no...I said the "H" word.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:13 Miles

7:13

Right Truth:

I heard one guy on his exit interview, he said "Change, that's what has me excited ... change." Oh brother.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:13 Right Truth

7:14

Big Dog:

Hope, had better change that attitude
gaah, I said change

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:14 Big Dog

7:14

Right Truth:

I wonder if there are any questions about Black Liberation Theology on the exit polls.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:14 Right Truth

7:14

Big Dog:

change makes a cheap hooker excited too

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:14 Big Dog

7:15

[Comment From Two DogsTwo Dogs: ]

I'm hoping that the Republicans nominate a good candidate in 2012. Until then, I'm not working on the books. Four years to be invisible, yeah I can do it.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:15 Two Dogs

7:15

Miles:

A hooker named, Hope.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:15 Miles

7:15

Big Dog:

working for small change

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:15 Big Dog

7:15

[Comment From Two DogsTwo Dogs: ]

I'm hoping that the Republicans nominate a good candidate in 2012. Until then, I'm not working on the books. Four years to be invisible, yeah I can do it.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:15 Two Dogs

7:16

Big Dog:

a double whammy

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:16 Big Dog

7:16

Right Truth:

She must be 'oppressed' and in need of uplifting sermons by Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Trouble with BLT is people must remain oppressed or at least THINK they are oppressed...

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:16 Right Truth

7:16

Big Dog:

That is how Democrats keep blacks in the fold. Oppress them but promise a better life

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:16 Big Dog

7:17

Miles:

I've read pundit's opinions that perhaps Obama should be president, so as to demonstrate to the real conservatives that they need to get their act together. I would shutter at what he would do to the country, though.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:17 Miles

7:17

Two Dogs:

Holy crap, no moderation? Here comes the f-bombs from me, yo.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:17 Two Dogs

7:17

Right Truth:

Handsome Hubby is home, gotta check out for a bit. Have fun boys.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:17 Right Truth

7:17

Big Dog:

stock up on guns and ammo

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:17 Big Dog

7:18

Big Dog:

RT will be back in 3 minutes

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:18 Big Dog

7:18

Two Dogs:

I read that there are record turnouts in North Carolina, what are the percentages so far?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:18 Two Dogs

7:19

Jay:

I'm working on getting some figures to talk about

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:19 Jay

7:19

Big Dog:

Let's talk about Pam Anderson's figure

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:19 Big Dog

7:20

Miles:

I saw the video...

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:20 Miles

7:20

Jay:

Don't make me moderate

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:20 Jay

7:20

Big Dog:

I filmed it
touche'

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:20 Big Dog

7:20

Miles:

Indeed

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:20 Miles

7:20

Big Dog:

If you are moderate then you will vote for a progressive

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:20 Big Dog

7:21

Jay:

heh

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:21 Jay

7:22

Jay:

11% reporting in IN, Hill still up by 16 points and 20,000 votes.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:22 Jay

7:22

Miles:

Interesting. Perhaps she'll pull it off, then.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:22 Miles

7:23

Miles:

Don't read that the wrong way...

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:23 Miles

7:23

Jay:

11% reporting in IN, Hillary up by 16

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:23 Jay

7:24

Jay:

Hello?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:24 Jay

7:24

Miles:

I'm here

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:24 Miles

7:24

Jay:

I'm having tech problems

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:24 Jay

7:24

[Comment From PascoPasco: ]

Fox will call the race in NC when polls close

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:24 Pasco

7:25

Big Dog:

That means he won big
What is wrong Jay

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:25 Big Dog

7:25

[Comment From PascoPasco: ]

Fox will call the race in NC when polls close

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:25 Pasco

7:26

[Comment From PascoPasco: ]

I'm stuttering

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:26 Pasco

7:26

Big Dog:

Was my itchy trigger finger

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:26 Big Dog

7:27

Big Dog:

Is anyone there

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:27 Big Dog

7:28

Jay:

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:28 Jay

7:28

Pasco:

waiting for more returns...

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:28 Pasco

7:28

Jay:

IN - 16% of the precincts reporting,

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:28 Jay

7:29

Jay:

Hillary up by 14%

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:29 Jay

7:30

Jay:

FOX projects Obama wins NC

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:30 Jay

7:30

Pasco:

Obama wins NC

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:30 Pasco

7:30

Jay:

large margin for black voters makes difference

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:30 Jay

7:30

Jay:

Was that racist?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:30 Jay

7:30

Pasco:

nah

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:30 Pasco

7:31

Pasco:

honest

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:31 Pasco

7:31

Jay:

You never know these days

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:31 Jay

7:31

Big Dog:

It is not racist it is math and truth

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:31 Big Dog

7:31

Pasco:

dems=stuck on stupid

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:31 Pasco

7:31

[Comment From SonnabendSonnabend: ]

If Obama wins what does that to to Shrillary

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:31 Sonnabend

7:31

Jay:

Obama is supposed to win NC

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:31 Jay

7:32

[Comment From SonnabendSonnabend: ]

Thats me BD

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:32 Sonnabend

7:32

Jay:

If he wins there and she wins in IN, like she probably will...then

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:32 Jay

7:32

Big Dog:

the beat goes on, na na na

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:32 Big Dog

7:33

Jay:

nothing changes really

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:33 Jay

7:33

Sonnabend:

This is going to become a "knife fight" on the convention floor, isnt it?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:33 Sonnabend

7:33

Jay:

Everything would change if either win both

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:33 Jay

7:33

Big Dog:

How will it play out in the general since 90% of blacks are Democrats?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:33 Big Dog

7:33

Jay:

Wouldn't that be fun to watch?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:33 Jay

7:33

Pasco:

gunfight her with the knife

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:33 Pasco

7:33

Big Dog:

Sonnabend, one can only hope

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:33 Big Dog

7:33

Jay:

I really don't think Obama can win the general at all.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:33 Jay

7:34

Sonnabend:

Jay: he cant.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:34 Sonnabend

7:34

Pasco:

Obama can't win

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:34 Pasco

7:34

Big Dog:

no gunfight, libs don't own guns

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:34 Big Dog

7:34

Jay:

Thats why I endorse him for the Dem nomination.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:34 Jay

7:34

Sonnabend:

Dont ask me why just a feeling he will fall short

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:34 Sonnabend

7:34

Pasco:

hillary might have a chance against the Maverick

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:34 Pasco

7:34

Jay:

cuz you know how important my endorsement means to democrats

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:34 Jay

7:34

Big Dog:

I say we do like when we were kids playing sports and ask for a do over

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:34 Big Dog

7:34

Sonnabend:

the two of them at each others throats..okay who's got the popcorn.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:34 Sonnabend

7:35

Jay:

Especially the influence I have over SUPER DELEGATES

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:35 Jay

7:35

[Comment From CaoCao: ]

lol

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:35 Cao

7:35

Big Dog:

I'll pop it up mnate and you bring the pop

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:35 Big Dog

7:35

Pasco:

that's why i don't think rush should have started his operation chaos

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:35 Pasco

7:35

Sonnabend:

deal

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:35 Sonnabend

7:35

Two Dogs:

Here's the problem with the general: the media will pull out all of the stops to get Barry elected and will again publish hokum like the "fake but correct" documents.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:35 Two Dogs

7:35

Sonnabend:

Pasco: Rush has managed to trip them both up. He did okay.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:35 Sonnabend

7:35

Cao:

I'm going to switch to my mac in a few minutes

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:35 Cao

7:36

BigDaddy:

I gotta be honest here. My strong dislike for Obama has made me cheering for Clinton recently (and I am a hardcore conservative).

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:36 BigDaddy

7:36

Jay:

CNN exit poll says Hillary loses NC by double digits

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:36 Jay

7:36

Big Dog:

you have a mac
libtard
LOL

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:36 Big Dog

7:36

Sonnabend:

Ouch

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:36 Sonnabend

7:36

Cao:

I have both a PC and a MAC

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:36 Cao

7:36

Big Dog:

wuldn't it be funny if they lied and she won

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:36 Big Dog

7:36

Jay:

Hey Cao, you should have an invite to help here.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:36 Jay

7:36

BigDaddy:

So she loses NC and wins IN

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:36 BigDaddy

7:36

Big Dog:

I have a macbook pro myself

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:36 Big Dog

7:36

Cao:

I don't see one

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:36 Cao

7:36

Sonnabend:

IF she wins IN

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:36 Sonnabend

7:37

Cao:

libtard, lol

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:37 Cao

7:37

Cao:

hold on, Jay, where'd you send it?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:37 Cao

7:37

Pasco:

i'm considering a mac

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:37 Pasco

7:37

Big Dog:

to your mac

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:37 Big Dog

7:37

Jay:

your gmail

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:37 Jay

7:37

Pasco:

vista sucks

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:37 Pasco

7:37

Sonnabend:

like that is.;..news?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:37 Sonnabend

7:37

Sonnabend:

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:37 Sonnabend

7:37

Cao:

I looked didn't see it - I saw the invitation to everyone at my superpats address

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:37 Cao

7:38

Big Dog:

Pasco, they cost more but I love mine. I wish I had gotten the 15" instead of the 17" but other than that it is great. Takes a little getting use to but not much

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:38 Big Dog

7:38

Sonnabend:

Thanks for letting me chime in today.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:38 Sonnabend

7:38

Big Dog:

is it today for you

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:38 Big Dog

7:38

Sonnabend:

0930 wed am

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:38 Sonnabend

7:38

Cao:

what I really wanted was a macbook air, but it didn't have enough muscle to do what I wanted from the outset...still there's a learning curve -

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:38 Cao

7:38

Big Dog:

I heard they have a bad overheating problem

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:38 Big Dog

7:39

Big Dog:

I like that new imac with the 24" monitor

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:39 Big Dog

7:39

Cao:

yeah I think they all do...I'm going to get a little gadget to plug into the usb port that will cool it

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:39 Cao

7:39

Sonnabend:

I wouldnt know, I have a real computer *runs from Cao*

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:39 Sonnabend

7:39

Cao:

LOL

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:39 Cao

7:39

Big Dog:

Sonnabend, you have a unix

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:39 Big Dog

7:39

Sonnabend:

I do?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:39 Sonnabend

7:39

Cao:

Jay check where you sent that because it hasn't shown up in gmail

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:39 Cao

7:40

Big Dog:

you said REAL

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:40 Big Dog

7:40

Sonnabend:

*glare*

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:40 Sonnabend

7:40

Cao:

caoilfhionn1@gmail.com

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:40 Cao

7:40

Big Dog:

((evil grin))

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:40 Big Dog

7:40

Pasco:

strategy room is live now

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:40 Pasco

7:40

Sonnabend:

okay whats the early word

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:40 Sonnabend

7:41

Jay:

Hello?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:41 Jay

7:41

Sonnabend:

Yes

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:41 Sonnabend

7:41

Cao:

it's not there--there was one email that got stuck in junk

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:41 Cao

7:41

Cao:

but I don't think it's the 'invitation' you're referring to

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:41 Cao

7:42

Sonnabend:

LOL

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:42 Sonnabend

7:42

Sonnabend:

clinton has "testicular fortitude"??? Her or him???...oh wait,,,,

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:42 Sonnabend

7:42

Big Dog:

What was it Cao, an ad for Liagra
the stuff you take when you are tired of listening to Democrats

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:42 Big Dog

7:43

Jay:

I'm having errors

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:43 Jay

7:43

[Comment From caocao: ]

forget it I found it

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:43 cao

7:45

Sonnabend:

we still on?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:45 Sonnabend

7:45

Jay:

test

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:45 Jay

7:45

Pasco:

test

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:45 Pasco

7:45

Sonnabend:

test

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:45 Sonnabend

7:46

Sonnabend:

all okay here

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:46 Sonnabend

7:46

Pasco:

1 2 3 ..... test

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:46 Pasco

7:46

Jay:

cool

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:46 Jay

7:46

Jay:

Hillary has extended her lead in IN to 35,000 votes

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:46 Jay

7:46

Sonnabend:

ohjj oh

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:46 Sonnabend

7:47

Jay:

Make that 39

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:47 Jay

7:47

Sonnabend:

yikes

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:47 Sonnabend

7:47

Jay:

91% of black vote in NC to Obama won it for him

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:47 Jay

7:48

Jay:

This is NOT about race AT ALL

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:48 Jay

7:48

Sonnabend:

why dont they see that obama is all spin and no sandwich

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:48 Sonnabend

7:48

Big Dog:

not at all

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:48 Big Dog

7:49

Jay:

Take a look at http://www.politico.com/

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:49 Jay

7:50

Sonnabend:

the media dont see it that way

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:50 Sonnabend

7:50

Jay:

Tell me I'm seeing things wrong

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:50 Jay

7:50

Sonnabend:

then again they never do

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:50 Sonnabend

7:50

Jay:

They are showing Hillary ahead in NC

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:50 Jay

7:50

cao:

ok I'm in

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:50 cao

7:50

Big Dog:

She might be until they count the black areas

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:50 Big Dog

7:50

Jay:

less than 1% reporting in NC

thats how

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:50 Jay

7:50

Sonnabend:

that page says obama woin nc

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:50 Sonnabend

7:51

Jay:

Welcome Cao

I thought you said you'd be in bed by now.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:51 Jay

7:51

Big Dog:

< 1% in, a long way to go

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:51 Big Dog

7:51

cao:

LOL ....still fixing to join in for a while

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:51 cao

7:52

Sonnabend:

By no means are they effusive. Under their best-case scenario, Clinton advisers believe she will be about 100 delegates behind Obama when the primary season ends on June 3.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:52 Sonnabend

7:52

cao:

I'm here to help

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:52 cao

7:52

[Comment From MikeMike: ]

test

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:52 Mike

7:52

Jay:

So, whats your tv saying Cao?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:52 Jay

7:52

cao:

haven't moved in there yet

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:52 cao

7:52

Jay:

Welcome Mike

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:52 Jay

7:53

Jay:

I'll be in and out in the 8 o clock hour

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:53 Jay

7:53

Sonnabend:

so did obama win nc or not

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:53 Sonnabend

7:53

Jay:

Most likely, but every vote has to be counted

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:53 Jay

7:53

Jay:

That includes dead folks

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:53 Jay

7:54

Sonnabend:

that page you linked said he did win

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:54 Sonnabend

7:54

Jay:

yeah, there headline says that, but the "live tally" on the page is still counting

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:54 Jay

7:55

Jay:

I think its a given projection Obama won NC

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:55 Jay

7:55

Jay:

But, you know the media is always right

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:55 Jay

7:55

Jay:

If he doesn't win, there will be a lot of folks eating crow

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:55 Jay

7:55

Sonnabend:

you mean left

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:55 Sonnabend

7:56

Jay:

No, I meant...the media are always flawless

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:56 Jay

7:56

cao:

keith olberman - popular vote talley and delegates

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:56 cao

7:56

Jay:

Perfect

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:56 Jay

7:56

Sonnabend:

as my mum says..perfect b*****t

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:56 Sonnabend

7:56

Jay:

Whats Olby saying?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:56 Jay

7:56

cao:

popular vote - 55%, 150k popular vote erasing pennsylvania

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:56 cao

7:57

cao:

a big victory if it climbs to 57%

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:57 cao

7:57

cao:

obama the projected winner in North Carolina - Indiana too early to call

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:57 cao

7:57

Jay:

Obama is blowing Hillary away in NC. What do you all think any of this means anyway?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:57 Jay

7:57

Sonnabend:

hillary is falling on her face, is what it means

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:57 Sonnabend

7:58

Jay:

Thats good and bad

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:58 Jay

7:58

Sonnabend:

the earlier primaries set her up for defeat and she's lost impetus

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:58 Sonnabend

7:58

Jay:

I want Obama as the nominee, but I'd like them to fight longer...not drop out.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:58 Jay

7:58

Sonnabend:

they expect obama to win and that influences the vote....hillary has a huige image problem

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:58 Sonnabend

7:58

Sonnabend:

Jay: this will go to the convention and the supers will be the crunch

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:58 Sonnabend

7:59

Sonnabend:

and thats there the blood will flow

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:59 Sonnabend

7:59

Jay:

How does Obama still have ANY support at all?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:59 Jay

7:59

Sonnabend:

he's a populist

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:59 Sonnabend

7:59

cao:

good question

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:59 cao

7:59

Sonnabend:

" the underdog" so to speak

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:59 Sonnabend

7:59

cao:

nice deb has a nice collection of commies that back him

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:59 cao

7:59

Jay:

Yes, but all common sense that has destroyed past politiicians is bouncing off him

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:59 Jay

7:59

Sonnabend:

yup...the teflon man

Tuesday May 6, 2008 7:59 Sonnabend

8:00

cao:

determined marxists are helping deflect the criticisms

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:00 cao

8:00

Jay:

I don't think it will hold up in the general, but what do i know?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:00 Jay

8:00

Sonnabend:

hillary's biggest problem is that lump she hasnt had removed...the one named bill

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:00 Sonnabend

8:00

Sonnabend:

Jay: My call is President MacCain

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:00 Sonnabend

8:00

cao:

Indiana - polls state open later than expected because of technical problems

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:00 cao

8:00

Sonnabend:

I kniw no one likes him

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:00 Sonnabend

8:01

Big Dog:

Mine is President Big Dog

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:01 Big Dog

8:01

Jay:

Probably so

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:01 Jay

8:01

Jay:

I'll be back in a few, have fun till then guys...and thanks for those helping.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:01 Jay

8:01

Jay:

Welcome GM

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:01 Jay

8:01

cao:

no alternative to make the case to the superdelegates - she needed to say that this election has changed dramatically - she thinks she's going to win Indiana

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:01 cao

8:02

GM:

Thank you Jay, glad to be here

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:02 GM

8:02

cao:

doesn't look that way now

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:02 cao

8:02

GM:

Hey Cao, BD, Sonnabend

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:02 GM

8:02

cao:

hi GM

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:02 cao

8:02

Sonnabend:

what would it take for her to drip out?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:02 Sonnabend

8:02

Sonnabend:

drop

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:02 Sonnabend

8:02

GM:

Drip out sounds good.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:02 GM

8:02

Sonnabend:

......

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:02 Sonnabend

8:02

GM:

she's all wet afterall.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:02 GM

8:02

cao:

Clinton will need something more - her people feel Indiana will give them the opportunity to stay on the field the first week in June

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:02 cao

8:03

Big Dog:

if she drips out we will know why Bill strayed

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:03 Big Dog

8:03

Sonnabend:

we already know why he strayed

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:03 Sonnabend

8:03

GM:

Ugh... nasty mental picture

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:03 GM

8:03

Sonnabend:

..no.,.I wont go there....

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:03 Sonnabend

8:03

cao:

In North Carolina - less than 1% of the hard vote in

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:03 cao

8:03

GM:

brb

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:03 GM

8:03

Sonnabend:

aye

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:03 Sonnabend

8:04

cao:

DNC - held on May 31 - to seat the 2 delegations - too many things at work here, undeclared superdelegates

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:04 cao

8:04

GM:

back

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:04 GM

8:04

GM:

BD, you are at 104 diggs

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:04 GM

8:04

Sonnabend:

huh?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:04 Sonnabend

8:04

Sonnabend:

"undeclared"?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:04 Sonnabend

8:04

Sonnabend:

OH...undecieed

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:04 Sonnabend

8:04

Sonnabend:

undecided

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:04 Sonnabend

8:05

cao:

they said undeclared

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:05 cao

8:05

Sonnabend:

does that mean undecided?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:05 Sonnabend

8:05

Big Dog:

I know, thanks. My best ever, sad but true

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:05 Big Dog

8:05

cao:

it's the patience of the undeclared superdelegates

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:05 cao

8:05

GM:

In 1952 Adli stevenson had 78k votes, estes fefaufer (sp?) had 3.1 million votes. Stevenson got the nomination.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:05 GM

8:05

Sonnabend:

kefauver

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:05 Sonnabend

8:05

GM:

thankyou

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:05 GM

8:05

cao:

they are endlessly patient - they wanted Clinton to give them reason to deny Obama the win

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:05 cao

8:05

Big Dog:

And lost the general

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:05 Big Dog

8:06

GM:

So will Clinton or Obama

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:06 GM

8:06

Sonnabend:

okay now thats spooky...I knew that without thinking

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:06 Sonnabend

8:06

Big Dog:

What is spooky is how many in this country can't get close

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:06 Big Dog

8:06

GM:

F-efaufer... where was my brain...

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:06 GM

8:06

Big Dog:

in France

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:06 Big Dog

8:06

Sonnabend:

I have never understood this..Im an Aussie and I know more than (not you GM) other Americans.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:06 Sonnabend

8:06

GM:

good God

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:06 GM

8:06

cao:

where are the votes in Indiana coming from? Are there black districts that haven't come out yet? Is there anything that can get the attention of the superdelegates and buy time? In fact, by the morning, we'll be able to say that Obama won more delegates than Clinton tonight. He will need fewer and fewer undeclared superdelegates

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:06 cao

8:07

Big Dog:

Cemetaries

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:07 Big Dog

8:07

Sonnabend:

the local cemetery?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:07 Sonnabend

8:07

Sonnabend:

SNAP

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:07 Sonnabend

8:07

cao:

why haven't we called Indiana? We have not seen vote coming out of the Obama strongholds

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:07 cao

8:07

GM:

much of indiana is rural and count faster than the bigger cities.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:07 GM

8:07

cao:

Gary hasn't come in, Marion County where Indianapolis, and Bloomington, the home of IU

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:07 cao

8:08

Big Dog:

In Indiana they count faster, pshaw

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:08 Big Dog

8:08

cao:

can't make a call how big Obama's turnout in Indiana was

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:08 cao

8:08

cao:

If NC is double digits it's good for Obama

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:08 cao

8:08

GM:

Cao... any returns from Indiana at all?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:08 GM

8:08

cao:

slow because of technical problems

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:08 cao

8:08

Big Dog:

She is getting her ass handed to her in NC

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:08 Big Dog

8:08

cao:

didn't come in as anticipated

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:08 cao

8:09

cao:

unclear motive as to the republican crossover

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:09 cao

8:09

cao:

is there a Rush Limbaugh effect

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:09 cao

8:09

GM:

Billy did MOST of the politikin' in NC... he got HIS ass handed to him. LOL

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:09 GM

8:09

Big Dog:

GM
http://www.politico.com/

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:09 Big Dog

8:09

Sonnabend:

http://thestrangedeathofliberalamerica.com/back-home-in-indiana-primary.html

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:09 Sonnabend

8:09

cao:

the most damning metric of the night for her -

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:09 cao

8:09

Sonnabend:

as a good exit poll

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:09 Sonnabend

8:10

[Comment From StixStix: ]

got here late or did you just start

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:10 Stix

8:10

cao:

what is the offset in Indiana for Clinton? For the total effect of the evening? She'll need a victory over 5 points to get the net effect

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:10 cao

8:10

Big Dog:

Started about 45 min ago

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:10 Big Dog

8:10

Big Dog:

maybe an hour.....

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:10 Big Dog

8:10

cao:

didn't get to call yet in Indiana

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:10 cao

8:10

GM:

holy crap... a 30% lead in NC... that can't possibly hold

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:10 GM

8:10

Big Dog:

Not at all

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:10 Big Dog

8:10

Sonnabend:

for whop

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:10 Sonnabend

8:10

cao:

Sen Claire McCaskill - for Obama campaign - it's about the delegates

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:10 cao

8:11

GM:

time for supper.... back later.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:11 GM

8:11

cao:

for Obama to have the three weeks he's had - to come back from what he's come back from - it shows he can be straight forward and honest with the American people...gag gag gag

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:11 cao

8:11

Big Dog:

Cao, what state are you in

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:11 Big Dog

8:11

cao:

Illinois

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:11 cao

8:11

Sonnabend:

state of hunger

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:11 Sonnabend

8:11

Sonnabend:

oh...that too

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:11 Sonnabend

8:11

Big Dog:

L8R GM

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:11 Big Dog

8:11

cao:

I'm in Obama's district

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:11 cao

8:12

cao:

he's my representative along with Dick the Turban Durbin

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:12 cao

8:12

Big Dog:

I knew you were close to the place BO is your guy ha ha

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:12 Big Dog

8:12

Stix:

You mean the Democratic Republic of Chicago

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:12 Stix

8:12

Sonnabend:

the WH staff aoulod dread the clint9ons return

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:12 Sonnabend

8:12

cao:

ack

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:12 cao

8:12

Sonnabend:

they hate them

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:12 Sonnabend

8:12

Big Dog:

Obama is a Senator he has the whole state

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:12 Big Dog

8:12

cao:

Socialist republic of Democrats in Chicago

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:12 cao

8:12

Stix:

yes that is better

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:12 Stix

8:12

cao:

Barack Obama; his wife's father worked a shift - a family that has come up the hard way - oh gag me

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:12 cao

8:13

cao:

authentic and honest - a president who can tell them the truth all the time..

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:13 cao

8:13

Stix:

is ther any place onkinte that has a live feed of Fox or CNN

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:13 Stix

8:13

cao:

who the hell is she talking about?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:13 cao

8:13

cao:

the enemies of the democratic base, the oil companies - he's learned from Clinton how to be a democratic pal

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:13 cao

8:13

Pasco:

fox is streaming the strategy room

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:13 Pasco

8:14

cao:

republicans and Cheney have not delivered for the working family

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:14 cao

8:14

cao:

I think i'll switch to fox - this is MSNBC

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:14 cao

8:14

Big Dog:

Vote for Big Dog

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:14 Big Dog

8:14

cao:

it's making me want to puke

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:14 cao

8:14

Sonnabend:

Yeah well MSNBC has that effect

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:14 Sonnabend

8:14

cao:

"people are beginning to realize they finally have a candidate who is what he says he is"

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:14 cao

8:14

Pasco:

cao how can you stand to watch Olbermann?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:14 Pasco

8:15

cao:

I can't

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:15 cao

8:15

Sonnabend:

I had a an anti nausea shot first

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:15 Sonnabend

8:15

cao:

Senator Claire McCaskill (D) -Obama Supporter

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:15 cao

8:15

cao:

he's never going to take anyone for granted

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:15 cao

8:15

Stix:

You mean tweety. I could never watch him

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:15 Stix

8:16

cao:

I have to get my power cord

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:16 cao

8:16

Stix:

That is strange that MCCaskill is a Obam supporter, s

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:16 Stix

8:16

cao:

Senator Claire McCaskill, Missouri

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:16 cao

8:16

cao:

I hate Olberman

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:16 cao

8:16

cao:

Lisa Caputo

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:16 cao

8:16

Stix:

Yes she is against pork and is pretty much a moderate

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:16 Stix

8:17

Pasco:

my wife is watching American Idol while I'm trying to concentrate on this....

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:17 Pasco

8:17

cao:

Senator Obama is to be congratulated - he started out ahead, and people decided a month ago - did the Wright issue have an effect on the people who'd made their minds up over a month ago? They didn't care about the Reverend Wright issue

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:17 cao

8:17

cao:

these people are idiots

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:17 cao

8:17

Sonnabend:

from news.com.au

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:17 Sonnabend

8:17

Sonnabend:

Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton BARACK Obama has reportedly won North Carolina, which means Hillary Clinton must take Indiana to stay in the race for nomination.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:17 Sonnabend

8:17

cao:

will it impact the working class voters, the swing voters, and the people they need to have on their side for the general election?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:17 cao

8:17

Stix:

He is not going to do well in the General Election

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:17 Stix

8:18

cao:

30's and 20's and teens, is it healthy that Clinton appeals to the old folks?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:18 cao

8:18

cao:

Olberman you are such a twink

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:18 cao

8:18

cao:

Is this an issue for America - a pastor - what he said several years ago - Caputo - it's important who you associate with

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:18 cao

8:18

cao:

this coming from a Clinton backer

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:18 cao

8:19

cao:

amazing

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:19 cao

8:19

cao:

Clinton has an edge in the hoosier state - the same people -the white vote in Indiana by 60% to 40% - Barack Obama is 92% of the black vote, similar to what he got in Pennsylvania

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:19 cao

8:19

Stix:

He is going to get grilled by all his associations in the General. Ayers, Dohn, Rev WRight and his family friend the communist

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:19 Stix

8:20

cao:

none of that matters to his black voters apparently

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:20 cao

8:20

cao:

look at the white vote -by Education - 2/3 of the white vote with no college education - Clinton got

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:20 cao

8:20

Sonnabend:

if NC hasnt been counted why is the press saying he won

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:20 Sonnabend

8:20

[Comment From aldald: ]

What is interesting to me is the demographics, with over 90 percent of the black vote for Obama and over 35 percent of the white vote for him in NC.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:20 ald

8:20

cao:

71% of seniors for Clintton

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:20 cao

8:20

cao:

Obama is getting the young voters

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:20 cao

8:20

Stix:

I know but the Black voters do not elect the people it is the Blue Collar workers and he will not get them.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:20 Stix

8:21

cao:

exit polls - Barack Obama the winner in NC - Indiana too early to tell

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:21 cao

8:21

cao:

ok leaving to get my cord - break on MSNBC

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:21 cao

8:21

Stix:

The young voters usually forget when the election is and do not vote as much

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:21 Stix

8:21

ald:

Experience is a good thing. The seniors have been around to experience many campaigns that the young have not.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:21 ald

8:22

ald:

Hard to understand why the "awe" over Obama. What is his voting record?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:22 ald

8:22

Stix:

Young voters do not look into waht he actually is all abot, just look at his speeches and are awed by his speeches.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:22 Stix

8:22

Stix:

He has none. He has been a "present " more than he actually voted

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:22 Stix

8:23

Stix:

And when he does vote is ids more left than any other SEnator

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:23 Stix

8:23

ald:

Am reading The Audacity of Hope. So far, just generalities.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:23 ald

8:23

Sonnabend:

ald: Obama and oiur KRudd are the same. all sizzle and no sausage

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:23 Sonnabend

8:23

cao:

look for the part where he says he'll side with the muslims when things get ugly

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:23 cao

8:24

ald:

Am trying to track his relationship with his Muslim cousin and the Kenya connection.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:24 ald

8:24

cao:

LOL...no sausage

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:24 cao

8:24

cao:

Odinga

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:24 cao

8:24

Sonnabend:

...thank you SO much Cao...*looks for the bleach*

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:24 Sonnabend

8:24

cao:

to early to call in Indiana - 10% Clinton lead so far

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:24 cao

8:25

ald:

Go to Barack and Kenya if interested. Want to know the source. If true, should be investigated.

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:25 ald

8:25

Sonnabend:

for Hillary, no jones in Indiana

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:25 Sonnabend

8:25

Stix:

If she looses Indiana it is all over with. She needs to win it so she goes on

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:25 Stix

8:26

Big Dog:

Fox news was talking about NC and said Bill CLinton was all over the state this past week. They said he burned rubber there. Not sure that is the right thing to say

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:26 Big Dog

8:26

ald:

Certainly is an uphill battle for Hillary, but can be done. However, with Howard Dean at the helm for the party and Pelosi in charge will not bode well for Hillary

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:26 ald

8:26

cao:

NC Results: the dye is cast - they may well be right - superdelegates? Do they have people ready to go - they've played it brilliantly, doled them out one at a time like playing cards - Nancy Pelosi has said you basically couldn't take the nomination away from the person who gets the majority of pledged delegates

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:26 cao

8:27

cao:

On the night of May 20 - in Oregon - will decide it

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:27 cao

8:27

Big Dog:

She will win it
She is in it to win it
Hill said if OB is the nominee she will fight for him with all her heart. She will back him
Considering what happened to that horse she backed I am not sure he wants the backing...

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:27 Big Dog

8:27

cao:

Is Rush Limbaugh Senator Clinton's new ally?

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:27 cao

8:27

Sonnabend:

pelosi would be wise to watch her own back

Tuesday May 6, 2008 8:27 Sonnabend

8:27

Sonnabend:

the sheehag is after her'