Ken Bluew Trial Day 6
9:12
Alright, back here waiting for the #bluewtrial to begin. Attorneys have met with judge already, and Bluew is in the courtroom.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:12 SNAndyHoag
9:12
Colleen Auer-Lemke, who works in the MSP Computer Crimes Unit, will continue testifying when we begin.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:12 SNAndyHoag
9:13
We left off yesterday with O'Farrell talking about two reports regarding what was found on Webb's cellphones. He'll likely focus on texts.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:13 SNAndyHoag
9:20
Jury is in, judge is in, and we're back to Auer-Lemke, with O'Farrell cross-examining.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:20 SNAndyHoag
9:21
RT "@morjules51: Good Morning, will there be live video today? Your doing a fantastic job by the way." >> yes, will post link.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:21 SNAndyHoag
9:22
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:22 SNAndyHoag
9:26
RT "@Gizelle83: DOES THIS WORK ON CELL PHONES, ANDY?" >> good question, I honestly have no idea. We do have an MLive app, give it a try.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:26 SNAndyHoag
9:27
O'Farrell confirming the printed reports he wants to admit into evidence are the same that Auer-Lemke generated.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:27 SNAndyHoag
9:28
RT @ValtierraMonica: @SNAndyHoag @Gizelle83 it does work on cell phone, however you need to download the ustream app
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:28 SNAndyHoag
9:30
O'Farrell confirms that Auer-Lemke cannot hear the phone conversations that are listed in the call log.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:30 SNAndyHoag
9:31
RT "@EwaldSandy: live video is very blurry today????" >> hmm, ok, I'll look into it. Thanks.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:31 SNAndyHoag
9:36
RT "@BeHemker: I'm not seeing todays live feed but yesterdays recorded????" >> getting it fixed now, sorry.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:36 SNAndyHoag
9:36
Report of extraction from Webb's older phone admitted into evidence. Same with newer phone. 1 report is 150+ pages, the other just over 100.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:36 SNAndyHoag
9:43
Auer-Lemke: Bluew's home computer visited MLive, WNEM.com on Aug. 31 & Sept. 1 for reports of the incident.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:43 SNAndyHoag
9:43
RT "@malanie810: is Bluew in the right of the courtroom?" >> yes
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:43 SNAndyHoag
9:45
Auer-Lemke: Bluew's computer visited sites related to applying fake blood, fake eyebrows. Also visited a site related to ...
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:45 SNAndyHoag
9:45
... limiting oxygen through strangulation as a way of enhancing sex.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:45 SNAndyHoag
9:48
Auer-Lemke: In doing searches, Bluew's resume came up as being certified in PPCT. O'Farrell points out that Auer-Lemke not aware that ...
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:48 SNAndyHoag
9:49
... Bluew was asked by former Chief Booker to get re-certified to train other officers in PPCT. O'Farrell using this as opportunity ...
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:49 SNAndyHoag
9:50
... to highlight some of Bluew's other accomplishments/attributes listed in the resume.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:50 SNAndyHoag
9:51
O'Farrell took his notes back to his desk, appearing that he may be close to being done w/ cross. First, bench conference related to resume.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:51 SNAndyHoag
9:51
@SNAndyHoag HAVING TROUBLE FINDING THE LIVE VIDEO THRU THE USTREAM APP...HELP!
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:51 Gizelle83
9:53
My fellow MLiver, @Bobjohnson1word, tells me the live video is fixed. Here's the link again: mlive.com/news/saginaw/i…
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:53 SNAndyHoag
9:54
Bluew's resume is admitted into evidence. Nothing further from O'Farrell. I thought O'Farrell may ask Auer-Lemke about ...
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:54 SNAndyHoag
9:56
... some of the text messages that Webb sent, but I guess not. And nothing further from prosecution. Next witness: Valarie Bowman from MSP.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:56 SNAndyHoag
9:57
Bowman works in the Bridgeport crime lab in the biology section, also works on "crime scene response team."
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:57 SNAndyHoag
9:58
As with Auer-Lemke, prosecution will need to establish Bowman's educational/professional background to have her be considered an expert.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:58 SNAndyHoag
9:59
Bowman: Responded to over 200 crime scenes.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 9:59 SNAndyHoag
10:01
O'Farrell has no comment regarding Bowman as an expert, and she'll be recognized as such.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 10:01 SNAndyHoag
10:02
Bowman: Suggest to Ogg that they come to the scene at daylight instead of about 4 a.m. They arrived at 9 a.m. instead.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 10:02 SNAndyHoag
10:06
Bowman identifying some daylight photos taken at the scene.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 10:06 SNAndyHoag
10:07
RT "@megananneobrien: o'farrell asked about documents on Jenny's phone with "I'm sorry" last night but never revisited today?" >> correct
Wednesday October 3, 2012 10:07 SNAndyHoag
10:08
Wednesday October 3, 2012 10:08 SNAndyHoag
10:16
Some of these photos depict some areas that we photographed a couple weeks ago: photos.mlive.com/4473/gallery/j…
Wednesday October 3, 2012 10:16 SNAndyHoag
10:17
Bowman: As crime scene team surveyed area, found "areas of interest," marked them w/ placards.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 10:17 SNAndyHoag
10:20
We'll focus first on the driveway to the Wastewater Treatment Plant. Bowman: 1.5"x1" blood stain found, as well as jewelry pendant and ...
Wednesday October 3, 2012 10:20 SNAndyHoag
10:20
... "fresh" Winston cigarette butt. "Fresh" meaning not flattened or weathered.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 10:20 SNAndyHoag
10:24
Stroud shows the jury a close-up photo of the blood stain on the driveway. Some testing of stain done at scene, some at crime lab.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 10:24 SNAndyHoag
10:25
Bowman: Testing at scene was to confirm it was human blood. "Positive indication" that it was indeed human blood.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 10:25 SNAndyHoag
10:26
Bowman points to the blood stain, prior to the close-up pic: pic.twitter.com/SPWY3666
Wednesday October 3, 2012 10:26 SNAndyHoag
10:28
Stroud also shows close-ups of jewelry pendant, cigarette. Now a photo that shows, among grass and weeds, Webb's flip flops.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 10:28 SNAndyHoag
10:28
Flip flops were dark silver, Bowman says, and were hard to see from photo.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 10:28 SNAndyHoag
10:30
Bowman: Total of 11 items collected. In additon to what already discussed, one blood stain that was not human blood ...
Wednesday October 3, 2012 10:30 SNAndyHoag
10:32
... two more cigarette butts; green disposable exam gloves located along railway, found Sept. 2, "appeared to have been there a while."
Wednesday October 3, 2012 10:32 SNAndyHoag
10:34
Bowman: Also, "microfiber cloths" collected on Sept. 2, similar to one seen on floor board of Webb's vehicle.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 10:34 SNAndyHoag
10:36
Re: additional cigarette butts found, last week's testimony was that Bluew was smoking while on scene w/ other officers.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 10:36 SNAndyHoag
10:38
Bowman: Found "possible presence of blood" on Webb's right flip flop. Tests showed it was human blood.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 10:38 SNAndyHoag
10:42
Bowman: Went to autopsy w/ Ogg & Teddy, MSP's Gary Ginther. Thinking they may show the autopsy photos on the TV, as Ogg is talking ...
Wednesday October 3, 2012 10:42 SNAndyHoag
10:43
... to Webb's parents. Guessing he may be giving them a heads up. And now we'll take a break.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 10:43 SNAndyHoag
10:46
Bowman displays a testing mechanism used for testing blood: pic.twitter.com/5u7safdt
Wednesday October 3, 2012 10:46 SNAndyHoag
11:10
And we're back. Looks like an almost certainty we'll be seeing the autopsy photos, as Webb's father is no longer in the courtroom.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 11:10 SNAndyHoag
11:10
Webb's mother and sister have elected to stay.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 11:10 SNAndyHoag
11:11
A photo of Bluew from earlier: pic.twitter.com/SMJwjV3L
Wednesday October 3, 2012 11:11 SNAndyHoag
11:12
Bowman identifies a picture of Webb from the autopsy. Not shown yet. Bowman also collected items from the autopsy.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 11:12 SNAndyHoag
11:15
Bowman: Items taken at scene included blood sample, samples of other fluids, swabs from Webb's fingernails.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 11:15 SNAndyHoag
11:17
Wednesday October 3, 2012 11:17 SNAndyHoag
11:19
Bowman: Items taken also included portion of extension cord, which she took swabs from. Cord was "intertwined" with her necklace, her hair.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 11:19 SNAndyHoag
11:21
RT "@tvalentine75: what about Jeff ( her brother) did he stay?" >> to be honest, don't know which one he is.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 11:21 SNAndyHoag
11:22
Bowman: Photos, swabs taken of Webb's bruises on inner arms.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 11:22 SNAndyHoag
11:24
Bowman: Blood sample collected from fetus. Prior testimony has been that that blood test showed Bluew was father.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 11:24 SNAndyHoag
11:27
RT @RebeccaRobelin: @SNAndyHoag @tvalentine75 Jeff and his wife left the room too.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 11:27 SNAndyHoag
11:29
Wednesday October 3, 2012 11:29 KellyZoellner1
11:31
RT "@BRANDIR69722395: He is always in the same row as the parents. ..." >> thanks. thought so, but didn't want to assume.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 11:31 SNAndyHoag
11:33
Bowman took clothing to the crime lab. Placed in a drying chamber, for precaution. Among clothing, light green piece of disposable glove.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 11:33 SNAndyHoag
11:34
RT "@SabrinaCabello: Hey Andy why did they move the TV? Just curious. ..." >> do you mean our live feed? In anticipation of autopsy photos.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 11:34 SNAndyHoag
11:39
RT "@clgreen08: @WNEMLGelardi thank you for your coverage! It helps those of us who don't live in the area keep up!" >> you're welcome!
Wednesday October 3, 2012 11:39 SNAndyHoag
11:40
Bowman: Turned t-shirt inside-out to get better view of blood stains, as they weren't as noticeable w/ designs on outside of shirt.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 11:40 SNAndyHoag
11:45
Bowman: Blood stains were found in left underarm area and below shoulder blade. Appear to be "drops" of blood as opposed to contact type.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 11:45 SNAndyHoag
11:49
Bowman: Three blood stains on front of shirt: just under left side of neck line, center of shirt, and lower left seam. First appears ...
Wednesday October 3, 2012 11:49 SNAndyHoag
11:49
... to be contact-type. Can't determine on second, and third appears to be drop.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 11:49 SNAndyHoag
11:51
RT "@CampRachie: @SNAndyHoag is bowman discussing jennys clothes or blews?" >> Webb's clothes.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 11:51 SNAndyHoag
11:53
Bowman: Blood stains on left bra cup, under bra cup, and one of the rear straps.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 11:53 SNAndyHoag
11:55
Bowman: 1/8"x3/16" stain on Webb's pants. And we're breaking for lunch. Be back at 1:30.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 11:55 SNAndyHoag
11:57
RT "@MelanieBierlein: are there a lot of people wearing maize and blue in the courtroom today?" Yes, some
Wednesday October 3, 2012 11:57 SNAndyHoag
12:11
@SNAndyHoag maybe I've missed something, but have they said if all the blood stains belong to Webb and/or Bluew?
Wednesday October 3, 2012 12:11 mandy5646
12:12
.@mandy5646 not yet. They first have to show who found the stains and when before somebody can testify about the results.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 12:12 SNAndyHoag
12:42
Wednesday October 3, 2012 12:42 SNAndyHoag
1:30
RT "@jessacastillo: is court over with today" >> no, we will be starting soon.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 1:30 SNAndyHoag
1:37
RT "@Gizelle83: is it just my PC or is sound disabled?" >> sound is low already, so use ear buds, but we haven't started yet, so it's quiet.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 1:37 SNAndyHoag
1:45
.@Gizelle83 I have a much better answer for you this time: our mic is muted until we get started.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 1:45 SNAndyHoag
1:51
And we're back, with Valarie Bowman still testifying.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 1:51 SNAndyHoag
1:52
RT "@MaureenBanning: @SNAndyHoag Is bluew divorced now?" >> yes
Wednesday October 3, 2012 1:52 SNAndyHoag
1:53
And instead of showing the autopsy photos on the TV, the jury will view the physical copies individually. Same process as the scene photos.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 1:53 SNAndyHoag
1:59
Jury is done with the pictures. Focus now turns to the piece of disposable glove found in Webb's clothing.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 1:59 SNAndyHoag
2:01
Bowman: Inside of glove tip had human blood. Tested outside of tip for enzyme which is highly present in saliva. Test was positive, so ...
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:01 SNAndyHoag
2:02
... saliva was present on outside of glove tip. Both samples sent out for DNA testing.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:02 SNAndyHoag
2:09
Bowman: Apparent blood stain on exterior rear passenger side door. Just to left and above door handle.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:09 SNAndyHoag
2:10
Bowman: "Ridge structure" to stain. In other words, could be fingerprint.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:10 SNAndyHoag
2:11
RT "@nichol0715: did she say Jenny's saliva and bluew's blood on glove" >> no, DNA results will be testified to at later time.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:11 SNAndyHoag
2:13
Bowman: Stain tested for fingerprinting. Other swabs taken, one to preserve area where ridge structure was.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:13 SNAndyHoag
2:15
Stroud showing Bowman more photos, mostly of backseat area/rear of vehicle.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:15 SNAndyHoag
2:16
Bowman: Processing of interior of vehicle began morning of Sept. 1.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:16 SNAndyHoag
2:18
Bowman: Silver hoop earring found between right side of backseat and door opening. Blood stain found along rubber door gasket.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:18 SNAndyHoag
2:19
Bowman: Door would have had to been open for that blood stain to get there. Hoop earring had human blood stain.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:19 SNAndyHoag
2:24
RT "@linzyXOmarie: is this significant like maybe she bit his finger with the glove on?" >> that's the prosecutors' theory.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:24 SNAndyHoag
2:25
On to rear driver's side door area. Bowman: Human blood on socket portion of extension cord still in vehicle.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:25 SNAndyHoag
2:26
Bowman: Tannish bed sheet on floor of backseat area. Human blood stain on bed sheet.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:26 SNAndyHoag
2:27
Just to reiterate, Bowman does not test for DNA. That's done in Lansing. She can test blood stain to determine if it's likely human blood.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:27 SNAndyHoag
2:28
At some point, a MSP expert from Lansing will testify to the DNA testing.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:28 SNAndyHoag
2:32
Into frontseat area. Bowman: Samples taken from gear shift knob, steering wheel. Focusing first on gear shift, where human blood was found.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:32 SNAndyHoag
2:36
Now looking at passenger side of rear seat, where human blood stain found. In middle of rear seat, Bowman found ...
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:36 SNAndyHoag
2:36
... a Smurf figurine, with a stud earring next to it. Blood stain on earring, but not enough of stain to test for human blood possibility.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:36 SNAndyHoag
2:39
Bowman: "Greasy area" on inside of rear passenger side window. Also, near top of seat belt holder, near headrest, on passenger side ...
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:39 SNAndyHoag
2:40
... blood stain and blood spatter marks. Didn't subject these stains to human blood testing.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:40 SNAndyHoag
2:42
Bowman: In rear cargo area, a gray tubular foam noodle-type object had a blood stain on it.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:42 SNAndyHoag
2:44
Bowman: On lower portion of driver's side "B Pillar," the area on interior of vehicle between front and rear doors, was a human blood stain.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:44 SNAndyHoag
2:49
Now to the open rear driver's side door area on the rubber door gasket, where seat and seat back come together. Human blood stain.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:49 SNAndyHoag
2:50
Bowman: Stain would have had to have been left while door was open.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:50 SNAndyHoag
2:52
Back to the steering wheel. Stains at 3 o'clock position, 11 o'clock position on front of wheel. Stain on side of wheel, at 4 o'clock.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:52 SNAndyHoag
2:54
Bowman: Human blood on all three steering wheel stains. 11 o'clock stain was more on top of wheel, not front.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:54 SNAndyHoag
2:55
Bowman points out the blood stain/possible fingerprint on rear passenger door: pic.twitter.com/B08JveKA
Wednesday October 3, 2012 2:55 SNAndyHoag
3:00
Now to driver's door. Near bottom of window on interior of door, human blood stain. Exterior of door, near rear edge, human blood stain.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 3:00 SNAndyHoag
3:01
Bowman: Human blood stain near middle of top of rear seat back.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 3:01 SNAndyHoag
3:04
That appears to be all the pictures from Webb's vehicle. By my count, 19 blood stains found. Most human blood; not all tested for that.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 3:04 SNAndyHoag
3:07
Now onto Bluew's police cruiser. Bowman: In trunk, among other items, box of green disposable gloves.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 3:07 SNAndyHoag
3:10
Bowman: Seized box of gloves. Tested for any blood stains; there were none.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 3:10 SNAndyHoag
3:13
Bowman: Interior driver's door of Bluew's vehicle, near handle was human blood stain.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 3:13 SNAndyHoag
3:14
Bowman: Human blood stain found on steering wheel, near 9 o'clock position.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 3:14 SNAndyHoag
3:16
RT "@malanie810: there is a lot of blood stains, are they saying how big they are?" >> they vary between fraction of an inch to about 2".
Wednesday October 3, 2012 3:16 SNAndyHoag
3:16
Bowman: Human blood stain on handheld mic that connects to police radio. Also had ridge structure on it.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 3:16 SNAndyHoag
3:18
Bowman: In rear of vehicle, along wall between front and rear sections, was human blood stain.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 3:18 SNAndyHoag
3:19
RT "@InD3p3nd3ntMami: was webb bleeding at all?" >> only thing I recall is a little from her nose.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 3:19 SNAndyHoag
3:22
Now onto Bluew's uniform, the one he told Ogg and Teddy he wore that night -- not the "old" one.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 3:22 SNAndyHoag
3:23
RT "@MaureenBanning: @SNAndyHoag on what hand was bluew wearing a bandaid" >> right index finger
Wednesday October 3, 2012 3:23 SNAndyHoag
3:24
Bowman: No stains on t-shirt. Smelled like detergent/fabric softener. "It did not appear to me as if that t-shirt had recently been worn."
Wednesday October 3, 2012 3:24 SNAndyHoag
3:27
Bowman: No indication that pants had been worn. Socks turned in appeared to have recently been worn.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 3:27 SNAndyHoag
3:29
Bowman IDs pictures of tactical vest and the "old" uniform items. Bowman mentions at least 1 apparent blood stain. And now, a break.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 3:29 SNAndyHoag
3:47
Blood stain on the steering wheel of Webb's vehicle: pic.twitter.com/lubJiWxu
Wednesday October 3, 2012 3:47 SNAndyHoag
3:48
The uniform pants Bluew said he wore that night: pic.twitter.com/zZgFKl51
Wednesday October 3, 2012 3:48 SNAndyHoag
4:00
And we're back, Bowman on the stand. Focus is on Bluew's tactical vest. Four stains: 1 on left, 1 in middle, 1 near right breast, 1 on right
Wednesday October 3, 2012 4:00 SNAndyHoag
4:01
Bowman: Most obvious was on "POLICE" area of vest. Stain was on "CE" portion. Human blood.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 4:01 SNAndyHoag
4:03
Bowman: On bottom right, possible blood stain. Couldn't test for human. On front, midway up just left of center, same result.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 4:03 SNAndyHoag
4:05
Bowman: Same with stain on left side of vest. All forwarded on to Lansing for DNA testing.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 4:05 SNAndyHoag
4:06
Now to police t-shirt. On white lettering on left sleeve, apparent blood stain. Human blood.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 4:06 SNAndyHoag
4:08
Pants - the "old" ones, according to Bluew - 9 areas of apparent blood staining. 2 of 9 were tested for human blood; positive. Others...
Wednesday October 3, 2012 4:08 SNAndyHoag
4:08
... only tested for blood; all positive. All 9 sent to Lansing.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 4:08 SNAndyHoag
4:11
Blood on "CE" of "POLICE" lettering on vest: pic.twitter.com/vLFQ4Au2
Wednesday October 3, 2012 4:11 SNAndyHoag
4:11
Bowman: Did "very little else" other than work on this case from Aug. 31 to Sept. 18.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 4:11 SNAndyHoag
4:16
Stroud has Bowman show the Webb's flip flops to the jury, as well as swab of blood and cigarette from Wastewater Treatment Plant driveway.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 4:16 SNAndyHoag
4:17
Swabs remained in heat-sealed plastic package. Bowman also IDs the "silver charm" found in same driveway.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 4:17 SNAndyHoag
4:20
All 3 admitted into evidence. Bowman IDs Webb's clothes, contained in a brown paper bag, and portion of ext. cord that came from autopsy.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 4:20 SNAndyHoag
4:22
Bowman also IDs sealed box containing blood samples from Webb & fetus and DNA swab from Webb's fingernails.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 4:22 SNAndyHoag
4:26
RT "@maggie011868: Is there a sight where i can see all photos u tweeted" >> go to my profile page, they should be there.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 4:26 SNAndyHoag
4:28
Bowman also IDs extension cord found in Aztek. That goes into evidence, as does sealed box, Webb's clothes, and cord from autopsy.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 4:28 SNAndyHoag
4:30
And that's it for the day. Bowman and the rest of us will return at 9 a.m. tomorrow, go until 10:30, break again, and come back at 1:30.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 4:30 SNAndyHoag
4:31
I'm going to close the MLive chat window. Feel free to tweet questions to me or post a comment on MLive.
Wednesday October 3, 2012 4:31 SNAndyHoag
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