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11:57
Fred Barbash-Moderator -  Good morning and thanks for joining us. I was struck this morning by Warren Buffett's comments, not only because he's so wise, but because he's been a strong Obama supporter. In his remarks, in a CNBC interview, he addresses the economic crisis as if it were a war...say Pearl Harbor, and expresses his concern that neither the Congres, nor, implicitly, the administration, is treating it as such. He's particularly concerned about the White House taking advantage of the situation to pursue a wider agenda."

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“I've never seen the consumer or the Americans just generally more fearful than this. And they're also confused. And you can get fearful very quickly, but you don't get confident, you know, in five minutes.   You can get fearful in five minutes, but you won't get confident for some time. And government is going to play an enormous factor in how fast it comes back. And if you're confused and fearful, you don't get over being fearful till you aren't confused. I mean, the message has to be very, very clear as to what government will be doing. And I think we've had--and it's the nature of the political process, somewhat, but we've had muddled messages, and the American public does not know what--they feel that they don't know what's going on and their reaction, then, is to absolutely pull back.”



But best he speak for himself: Here are some excerpts. Sorry they're so long but he packs a lot in.

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“I don't think anybody on December 7th would have said a `war is a terrible thing to waste, and therefore we're going to try and ram through a whole bunch of things and--but we expect to--expect the other party to unite behind us on the--on the big problem.' It's just a mistake, I think, when you've got one overriding objective, to try and muddle it up with a bunch of other things.”

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“I think that the Republicans have an obligation to regard this as an economic war and to realize you need one leader and, in general, support of that. But I think that the--I think that the Democrats--and I voted for Obama and I strongly support him, and I think he's the right guy--but I think they should not use this--when they're calling for unity on a question this important, they should not use it to roll the Republicans all.”

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“If you're in a war, and we really are on an economic war, there's a obligation to the majority to behave in ways that don't go around inflaming the minority. If on December 8th when--maybe it's December 7th, when Roosevelt convened Congress to have a vote on the war, he didn't say, `I'm throwing in about 10 of my pet projects,' and you didn't have congress people putting on 8,000 earmarks onto the declaration of war in 1941.”

So what do you think? Is Buffett's criticism on point?

12:01
[Comment From Aaron Rabinowitz]
If we're in a war, whose the enemy?
12:03
Fred Barbash-Moderator -  If you ask Buffett, the enemy is a pervasive fear (a la FDR) and it needs to be confronted as one would confront a war, not only to confront the problems but to defeat the fear, which, of course, prolongs the economic crisis.
12:03
[Comment From Aaron Rabinowitz]
I find Buffett's comments perplexing as well Fred. From the quotes you've provided, I would agree with Buffett that the general public has been fed a ton of miss-information and that they are understandably frightened and confused as a result. I would take issue with Buffett's suggestion that Obama is trying to muddle things further by taking on issues like Healthcare reform. I would argue that by taking on these issues he is providing a more complex and thought out solution than anyone else at the table. buffett isn't suggesting any unconsidered alternatives it seems like, so why add to the fear?
12:05
Fred Barbash-Moderator -  Thanks Aaron. In our last livechat we talked about that. My sense of Buffett's comments is that unless Congress and the administration confronts the immediate crisis in some sort of unified way, the rest of the agenda is moot. There won't be anything left to reform if if so much damage has been done.
12:05
[Comment From Aaron Rabinowitz]
If the goal is to confront fear we need honesty. The Republican's certainly aren't being honest about the subject, and Nate Silver makes some great points today about how business news like CNBC hasn't even admitted to their part in all this, much less started to speak honestly about where the market is or is going.
12:07
Fred Barbash-Moderator -  Here's Buffett again: Courtesy of CNBC:

" I think the message out to continuously be, `We are in an economic war. We're going to solve this together. We're not going to use it as a way to get all kinds of changes made.' And I might like to see a change in the tax code and maybe--but right now I'm for doing the part that helps the people that are the worst off and whatever doesn't cause--whatever doesn't pull us apart. And I don't think we should have lots of things now that cause us to become disunited. We have a common interest and a huge objective, which is to get this economy working well, and that will take people working together."

12:07
[Comment From Aaron Rabinowitz]
Well if Buffetts main concern is confronting things in a unified way, Obama is clearly not, or definitely should not be, the target of Buffett's column. John Boenher came out in favor of a spending freeze last week. How do you come together with that?
12:08
[Comment From Renee]
So, what is the answer to this crisis--what is the correct response? Does anyone really know how to fix this? I agree that there needs to be unity in a response, but when AIG comes back with another $62 billion loss after the initial bailout money... Does anyone really know how to shore up these institutions that are too big to fail?
12:09
[Comment From Aaron Rabinowitz]
Yeah, what does Buffett suggest we do for those people that are the worst off? To me getting them healthcare, education, and cheap electricity seems pretty good.
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